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@Joe sounds like you got it but you just didn't like it which is fine. My goal was never to critically engage with the issue or debunk it. It was an exploration of the issue and the experiences of people actually in it. Within their words you should have seen elements of matriarchy, hypergamy, working class, bourgeoisie, egalitarianism, and of course including non cishet people all working at an individual level, all including an element of blackness. Deglamorizing black love was definitely my intended goal. Showing why it's still worth it was also my intended goal.
I wanted to make a feel good video that made people want to explore not a video for people to point to as a solution, that's kinda the point and how most of my videos are. I almost never say "Yall should do X) in my videos.
I had my bell hooks all cued up along with research on black intimate partnership issues, but when I sat down with it I didn't like what it was turning into. I may make that anti manosphere video one day but I DEFINITELY wasn't making it for valentines day.
Also I really don't see how including IR and queer couples throws anything off. They are prime examples of "black love" that don't fit the branding aesthetic. They added value to the discussion, and I HATE how unrepresentative "black love" discussions are. The first love video featured queer black men too btw.
At the same time, yeah no video is perfect. I'm one guy trying to write, film, and edit videos on a 2 week circuit, there's parts.of this video on the editing floor that maybe would have made you more satisfied. There's things I wish I had addressed more clearly. There's awesome stories about blackness from the queer and ir couples that would have better explained their presence.
Either way thanks for the watch and the honest and good faith criticism.
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The idea that straight black men are under represented really blows my mind. How can some of yall be so hard focused on the handful of gay men in the media that yall miss the abundance of straight black men in every facet of entertainment.
This is how propaganda works. Like in Lovecraft Country, one black man was gay. Every other black character was straight including the hero. No gay black characters in Black Panther, none in Judas and the Black Messiah, none in Get Out, Bad Boys 3, Spiderman, Django, Da 5 Bloods, Sorry to Bother You,
I could name like 100 movies. We got a new Blade movie on the way, new black western, a static shock movie.
You don't have data on this cause there is none. Guys like Nasheed have been saying this lie so much that people believe it but don't notice how it doesn't actually exist.
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So historically speaking... idk if any society lasts period. But there's plenty of examples of thriving societies that had female rulers... although most of them still ruled from a patriarchal standpoint.
The question though is considering the nature of the world right now, is patriarchy still as effective of a social system (and by effective i mean only in the sense that it is able to allow some societies to survive and resist being conquered etc)
For example New Zealand is turning into one of the safest, most progressive, and healthiest nations in the country while America is declining. We are so entrenched in patriarchy that it's starting to backfire. The military can hardly find decent recruits because of substance addiction, mental illness, and radicalization. Now that's also capitalisms fault, but you get the point.
This is highly philosophical and so there's a lot of ways to look at it, but here's my thing. I care about the here and now, and I've seen too many black folks suffering to be ok with the type of attitudes presented in this "documentary". So regardless of the long term philosophical questions, there are little black boys and girls being exploited on the streets, and we aint doing enough about this.
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So there's a big difference between hooks and tariq Nasheed. Nasheed's rhetoric doesn't hold up under scrutiny at all and hook's does. hooks unlike many in academia is empathetic and defensive of black men while being critical of the hows and the why's of our issues. If you've read hooks, i guess my question would be where exactly is she wrong at?
You seem to be conflating patriarch with provider, leader, protector and this is exactly what I'm disagreeing with. Those roles, are not gender based by nature and while men have been socialized to play those roles in most civilizations throughout history, that's still a response to social pressure and not natural law. Today, there is even less reason to look at those roles as naturally belonging to men, especially some of those 13%
Lastly, you are likely very uniuqe. Most people have never read hooks, let alone black men and especially heterosexual black men who I'm targeting with this video. So though I know Im not goign to change the world in 10 minutes I do think at least the exposure and the conversation is valuable. As men the key I HOPE we can all agree on is that we need to be talking to each other a lot more than we are and have been recently.
I sincerely appreciate this discourse we're having, most videos won't be this "controversial" but i hope you stick around to keep critiquing. You might want to check out the two videos i did on black men in the movies if you haven't already.
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Interesting, so I have researched Holmes for my graduate studies. I never thought that the whole Joker thing was a true influence of his behavior, (I've read his journals, and it's clear he was psychotic) but I had never seen anything up until now to debunk that he was calling himself the joker upon capture.
With Holmes (and other spree shooters) the thing isn't so much imitating the images they see on screen, I see it more as the iconography they choose to put on display while they engage in spectacle violence. What I kind of wanted to get across in the video was that it's never the films, it's always the people, and a greater societal problem of how we construct masculinity, especially in this case white masculinity. Characters like the joker and other edgelord iconography just become conduits for that problem.
I think I get your point about how the media "labels" these events and assigns intent even when these perpetrators are not red pilled incels. There's definitely nuance that is lost when the Media becomes our filter for these stories. However, there are plenty of non-white men who suffer from chemical imbalances, psychotic breaks, etc. Some do engage in violent acts, but very VERY few do it at the scale that white men do. The desire to have a violent act reach the level of spectacle that Holmes and many other spree shooters do, is uniquely white/male. While it IS important to separate Holmes who was psychotic, from Elliot Rodger who is a psychopath, we can't ignore the intersection between race and masculinity that keeps popping up in these types of events.
Lastly, Holmes wanting to separate his normal self FROM the self who was going to commit mass murder fits pretty well into an overall context and tradition of these acts as manifestations of masculine reclamation through spectacle violence. Check out the book Angry White Men by Michael Kimmel for my overall rationale. Also check out Peter Langman who breaks down differences between certain types of spree shooters.
That said, had I known that the joker connection was completely fabricated I probably would have left it out.
Thanks for the useful criticism and the support!
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