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God is real and the Bible is true. There is still a difference between faith and religion that atheists don't understand.
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Tenzek Perhaps I should have made myself more clear. Atheists don't difference between religion and faith and there are also religious people who don't differentiate between the two. Religion is man made and just as capable of corruption as anything else. I don't believe that religion is going to save anyone any more than I believe that science is ever going to have all the answers. Faith is way more personal than religion. ................ I may be the first person to tell you there is no evidence to be offered to you in your denial. My best guess is that God has already offered you evidence but you refused to acknowledge it because it wasn't the evidence you really want. If you were given the evidence you are seeking then your belief wouldn't be a choice. You would then have no other alternative than to believe and that's not going to happen because choice is what it's all about. I believe the Bible itself is written in a way that allows believers to study it and learn more and for non believers to be confused by it and find fault and that in itself is genius and all done for the purpose of choice. .................... How does science give you the faith that allows you to believe there is no God?
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Tenzek Well, from that comment I could guess you an agnostic because I've never talked to an atheist who would say that science doesn't offer them reasons to believe or disbelieve but then I would be judging you again unless you want to tell me yourself exactly where you stand.
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Tenzek Ok, now I will say that you are an honest agnostic but I will call you an atheist because that is what you rightfully acknowledge yourself as and my previous comment still applies regardless of what either of us want to call you except for now I will have to change my question to how does your skepticism give you the faith that there is no God because either way you are not acknowledging God's existence and it surely doesn't matter if it's through science or skepticism.
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Tenzek It is getting late and I have to go anyway but that is not what you said. You said, regardless of what I want to call you, it doesn't change the fact that you don't believe. I don't need to twist your words when that is what you said. I don't want to play games either but it doesn't appear that I am the one who's playing here....Goodnight.
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Tenzek Ok but you are not saying you don't know if God exists, you are saying that He doesn't because of lack of evidence. If you make a statement that God does not exist for lack of your own evidence while at the same time stating that you are skeptical then you are saying that your personal faith that there is no God lies in lack of evidence. Lack of evidence doesn't mean that something didn't happen or doesn't exist so it still boils down to your own beliefs and faith that something doesn't exist. On top of that you are ignoring everything else I wrote which applies regardless if you call yourself an atheist or a skeptic. How is calling yourself an atheist being skeptical? And what exactly makes you skeptical, if you already know there's not enough evidence for you to believe in any kind of god?
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Tenzek Your third comment. You wrote "I don't want to play word games. I don't hold a belief in any god". You are not giving it any possibility at all, therefore you cannot be skeptical of something you think you already know.
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Tenzek I seriously am not trying to put words in your mouth. I am really trying hard to understand you. I have never ever encountered anyone who says they are skeptical and yet calls themselves an atheist. It is to the point where I can't tell if you're sincerely trying to be honest or you are just messing around. It is time to go again so if you have another comment then go ahead and I will get back to you when I can. Perhaps we can start over. I don't know.
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