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How many of those generations REFUSED TO LEARN?
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@kimobrien. Nope: there were many in the Democratic Party who were opposed to US involvement in Vietnam. Perhaps you heard what happened to Robert F. Kennedy, Ed Muskie, George McGovern. You're on the wrong program.
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Yeah -- we only had to deal with the DRAFT during wartime. Reminder: you weren't there so are CLUELESS what it was like.
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@firewater3523 Isn't that all it's about for you -- "feelings" over facts and history? This is something one learns in university: "alienation" has been a central topic of literature -- poetry, fiction, psychology, sociology, philosophy, and the arts generally -- in every era, beginning at latest in the 1920s, and continuing into at latest the 1960s.
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@firewater3523 There was much writing about "alienation" during the 1950s. But one doesn't know that because of the false view that university education is only about getting ("better") jobs.
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@VictorGarcia-vw7nq The confusion is YOURS. FACTS MATTER: Anatomy = sex. Gender = psychosexual identity. The two are not always congruent. That's why there are, as example, homosexuals. And that is in the nature of things.
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@justadude598 There are schools that provide job training. College and university -- HIGHER education -- isn't about becoming a novelist. It is education that shows on the world beyond one's childhood and those fantasies. It is about making one a better citizen in a diverse -- that is the given reality -- world.
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@bluehairedaigaming If you had knowledge of HISTORY then you'd know that is the history of the world. Often parents made promises that they didn't know they couldn't fulfill, and didn't know that the world didn't intend to. One should take responsibility for one's ignorance, not blame the world for it. I have no idea what "future" you were told you would have; but I do know who is at fault for believing it. Yes: self-pity is avoiding that reality -- it's always someone else's fault. Worse, it is all the fault of an entire specific generation, even though that FANTASY is demolished by actual reality. A more pertinent question is this: How many of the January 6 insurrectionists -- a crime the Founders charged as TREASON, and rendered the sentence for it as DEATH -- were from the poor put-upon generations that was confronted by the same reality as all prior generations but instead of dealing with that reality whines as it wallows in self-pity and put all the blame on the ENTIRE "Boomer" generation. And then they include in that category people who WERE NOT of the "Boomer" generation -- all because of their AGE. The "Boomers" are blamed for US involvement in Vietnam, even though that began BEFORE the "Boomer" generation's first member was born. That is why I continue to attack the STUPIDTY of the morons who smugly declare that education only matters if it's a "jobs program" -- having no awareness that life isn't limited to jobs and money. It is disheartening for those of use who hoped for better than my generation had it, only to see them subsequent generations whine that everything isn't handed to them on a silver platter -- and, beneath all that, ranting AGAINST education. PHILISTIMES and BARBARIANS who haven't the first clue as to the meaning of "citizenship" in a society with other citizens.
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"Mr. Tibs J Nagarya well that doesn't create the society that is desired. Greed is desired by the system. And sociopathy is encouraged". That isn't quite accurate: John Adams believed that the basic human flaw is greed. (In the "Bible" it's one of the "Seven Deadly Sins".) That's why he established a system -- separation of powers -- that would constrain greed. Thus, every co-equal branch engaging in "jealousy" -- trying to dominate -- is countered by the other two. That is further established by enactment of statutes, which implement constitutional provisions. As to the sociopathy: the Founders expected citizens to be "virtuous" -- to accept responsibility for governing their own behaviors, and therefore limiting them in the interests of all. Unregulated capitalism, and the irresponsible attacks on informing the citizenry, are the abuses that result in chaos and worse. It is result of putting profits over people.
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@kimobrien. Nixon resigned in August, 1974 -- a criminal "got" by the "Boomers". The DRAFT was ended -- thanks to the "Boomers". The environmental movement was mainstreamed by the "Boomers". US involvement in Vietnam ended in 1975 -- thanks to the "Boomers". The dollar was not based on the gold standard -- Nixon had changed that. The ignorance of the actual history involving the "Boomers" is astounding. Were there assholes in the "Boomer" generation? Certainly -- and as certainly as there are assholes in the subsequent generations that, ignorant of history, blame 'Boomers" for everything, including their own failings.
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@kimobrien. The US supported France in Indochina from the end of WW II with funding and materiale. When the French were blown out at Dien Bien Phu, the US -- Eisenhower -- began putting in "advisors". It is the "New Left" "conclusion" from the 1960s that there was lying about the Tonkin Gulf incident. In fact it was inconclusive as what it was, let alone the apparent "cause" of it. You re repeating the far-left cliches about those years. I was alive, awake, and directly involved in the politics of the time. I knew Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin: they were ASHOLES who got Nixon elected. Your on the wrong program.
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@kimobrien. The Tonkin Gulf "incident" was never determined to actually have happened. "Something" happened, but it was at night, and the only "conclusions" about it were FORCED by the New Left. I WAS ALIVE, AWAKE, AND INVOLVED IN LEFTIST POLITICS AT THE TIME. You are IGNORANT of the history of the parties. All your spew is old-hat cliches from the New Left -- which collapsed after US involvement in Vietnam ended. What happened to New Left "radial" Jerry Rubin? He became a Wall St. stockbroker.
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@kimobrien. You know nothing about the history of that era. The pushback against the "Boomers" were from their parents -- who had lived through the Depression and WW II. Interestingly it was the "Boomer's" GRANDparents who largely agreed with the "Boomers". And who, pray tell, were in gov't and making the laws and policy? The "Boomers," who were in their 20s!? How stupid do you intend to remain?
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@kimobrien. "The war was began by Kennedy along with Johnson". PBS did a thorough history on US involvement in Vietnam, beginning with WW II. WATCH it and thus INFORM yourself: The US supported the French in Indochina -- the French colonial umbrella combining Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam -- with funding and military materiale from the end of WW II. When the French were blown out at Dien Bien Phu, the REPUBLICAN EISENHOWER began putting "advisors" in South Vietnam. That was for DECADES BEFORE JFK and LBJ. Now let's look at the Republicans you are omitting -- beginning with Eisenhower: for his first term Nixon ran on ending US involvement in Vietnam; he didn't; instead, he ran for RE-election on a "SECRET plan" to end that involvement. SUCKERS voted for him because of a "SECRET plan" that never existed. Instead he had EXPANDED the involvement OUTSIDE Vietnam -- see Kent State. Want to know who the PROTESTERS against that involvement were? "BOOMERS" -- the very generation you are bashing with your ahistorical ideological claptrap. I began, as an high school junior in 1965, speaking out against that involvement. I was the only one in my high school class to do so; but I was a reader, and was reading beyond class assignments. Get it through your bullshit self-bedazzlement: the "Boomer" generation was NOT A MONOLITH. And it was the "BOOMERS" who got the US out of Vietnam. It was the "BOOMERS" who MAINSTREAMED the environmental movement -- I'd learned of Climate Change in junior high science in the early 1960s. And there were all along, in the OLDER generation/s, anti-nuclear and climate change activists -- see Professor Wald of Harvard and pediatrician Dr. Benjamin Spock as examples. Dr. Spock was also a defendant among the "Boston 5" -- along with Congressman Jamie Raskin's father. RESEARCH what they were doing. They were protesters against the draft. And at the time of that trial I was engaging in "draft counseling". You've bitten off the far-LEFT version of issues; you have that distortion wrong, and it is nowhere near a significant part of ALL that was going on. You remind of those who ONLY look at the MUISC of the time and jabber about how GREAT things were. I was an avid music listener -- and buyer; AND I was at least as much involved with the politics of the time, ESPECIALLY US involvement in Vietnam and the draft. Somehow you have this idea that it was all rosy for the "Boomers". Get an education in the ACTUAL facts and history; come down to EARTH.
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@kimobrien. "They started firing at night after claiming to be hit. The navy reported back Johnson went forward with the resolution." IDIOT: between the navy ship and LBJ was an entire hierarchy -- a bureaucracy. LBJ received the end-result report. But AGAIN: the so-called "Tonkin Gulf Incident" was investigated. It was NEVER clear that ANYTHING happened beyond reaction to "something". Now let's focus on the fact that there are THREE CO-EQUAL BRANCHES to our gov't. So tell us, genius: which of the three branches APPROVED the "Tonkin Gulf Resolution" therefore making it "law"? You're so caught up in emotionalized -- distorted -- propaganda that you're irrational. And the "New Left" of the 1960s was no slouch at drumming up HORSESHIT. I WAS THERE -- I KNEW Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin and saw how they operated. The CHAOS they created got NIXON elected AGAINST George McGovern, McGovern was AGAINST US involvement in Vietnam. As was Ed Muskie. And what did we subsequently learn -- excepting you and your wet-behind-the-ears-ilk -- about Muskie's defeat? That REPUBLICAN "dirty trickster" ROGER STONE was successful in the goal of subverting his candidacy and campaign. You don't know shit about that era; you are simply repeating 1960's "New Left" propaganda. The actual history is DIFFERENT than that.
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@inmjoh Anyone who limits their attacks to Democrats concerning US involvement in Vietnam is full of shit, bot or not.
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@rogetta-flores They had it "easier" because they didn't have history-ignorant later generations smearing them. Oh, wait . . . This whole video, and those who flock to it, denouncing education they don't have, based on not knowing anything about it, is a continuation of the Republican war against education -- against reason itself -- initiated at latest by Reagan, because -- as their support of Trump shows -- Republicans well know it's easy to steal from the stupid. That includes hoodwinking these fools out of their fundamental rights based on -- you guessed it -- their IGNORANCE.
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@rogetta-flores We had to deal with being draft-eligible during wartime, even though opposed to the war. But we "fucked up the world" by successfully eliminating the draft so that subsequent generations are not involuntarily subjected to that Sword of Damocles. Yo -- anti-education jackasses: research "Sword of Damocles," it's something one doesn't have to know to get a job; but it is something worth knowing that one learns at college or university. You aren't sophisticated; you are fools cutting off your noses under the illusion that your "rebellion" spites everyone but yourselves.
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@rogetta-flores The world has always been "fucked up". The anti-education shitheads don't know that because they reject education. They are making of themselves SHEEPLE.
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@stanleythompson5321 Horseshit. The top one per cent have control. The lower 99 per cent do not. And you'd know that is not new if you weren't ignorant of HISTORY.
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@stanleythompson5321 Then you aren't talking about the vast majority of "Boomers". In other words, you basically don't know what you're talking about. You rely on the Internet for your "facts" and get only distortion. AS EXAMPLE, George Soros is a whipping-boy not because he's "in control" -- he is not -- but because he is a JEW, so represents the "Jewish World Conspiracy" FANTASY in the view of ANTI-SEMITES. Stop guzzling the conspiraBUNK and GROW UP. Knowledge of history isn't necessary to "getting a job"; but it DOES put an end to flying BLIND because of total lack of factual perspective. You don't know history, so you put all responsibility for the state of the world onto a single generation -- which is worse than childishly stupid: it is BOGUS, FALSE. A significant percentage of "Boomers" got the US out of Vietnam -- that is the efforts "against" the "war machine". I learned of climate change in junior high -- "middle school" -- during the early 1960s. The "Boomers" MAINSTREAMED the environmental movement, which had been marginalized -- on the LEFT -- during the 1950s. A significant percentage of the "Boomers," along with activists from the 1950s, opposed the use of nuclear with significant success. You don't know anything of substance; you only see the superficial by relying on the junk and distortions on the Internet. Do you even know the difference between, on one hand, fact, and on the other, everything else!? Between, on one hand, NEWS, and on the other, everything else including so-called "independent 'journalism'"?
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@stanleythompson5321 WHICH "Boomers" are "in control"? And WHAT PERCENTAGE of the TOTAL "Boomer" generation? You STILL don't grasp the fact that the "Boomer" generation is no more a monolith than YOUR generation. Clue: there are ASSHOLES in EVERY generation -- INCLUDING YOURS. How does bashing "Boomers" deal with the assholes in YOUR generation? Gad, if I'd been as stupid as you during even high school I should have but wouldn't have known how to blow my brains out.
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@stanleythompson5321 "Stanley Thompson J Nagarya if you're not one of these greedy boomers, then you wouldn't understand." But YOU understand because YOU'RE a "greedy boomer"? this is what substitutes for KNOWLEDGE -- conspirabunk for the lazy-assed moron: "These evil boomers, they wants to control the world." And your EVIDENCE is? "Absolute power corrupt absolutely." That is not accurate -- and you might get the accurate quote from Wikipedia. "Powe corrupts, and absolute power TENDS to corrupt absolutely." -- Lord Atkins. "Do you really think that Biden is running America? No, it's his puppet masters." So, greedy boomer, NAME NAMES. "If you still don't know who these evil boomers are, just look who is at war in Ukraine right now. Their goal is nuclear ww3." If you knew anything at all accurate about history, particularly since before, during, and after WW II you wouldn't be pushing Putin's propaganda. I've said nothing about myself because I wanted to see the sorts of responses my statement of facts would get from the generations of those born knowing it all. I was born in 1948 -- do the math. I did time at two universities, the first focused on literature as advanced placement which on my own initiative I made interdisciplinary. The second, law. I opposed every US military action, beginning in high school with Vietnam. I wa the only member of my "Boomer" high school class to speak up against that involvement. BUT knowing history, I support the US action supporting Ukraine against FASCIST Putin. Even YOU know that Putin ILLEGALLY INVADED Ukraine. Sure, you get all your "edumacation" from the Internet -- totally free of the DISIPLINE of learning to distinguish between fact and BULLSHIT. To have you voluntarily moronic generations LECTURE "Boomers" not only ABOUT "Boomers" but also with HGWASH is offensive to reason. And it is baselessly ARROGANT.
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@stanleythompson5321 ASSHOLE: I OPPOSED EVERY military action by the US, beginning with Vietnam, while in high school. I was the ONLY member of my high school class to do so. And that included opposition to the US's illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq. I am consistent: I oppose illegal invasions of sovereign nations -- which is exactly what Putin is doing to Ukraine. So certainly I support Ukraine, and support of it. It's the first time the US has had it right since WW II/Korea. I am the OPPOSITE of "indoctrinated," illiterate moron.
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@stanleythompson5321 According to Putin. CLUE: Putin has no say over the LEGAL actions OF OTHER NATIONS. And NATO did not "expand": RATHER, having suffered under Stalin, the eastern block countries APPLIED FOR MEMBERSHIP in NATO, and NATO APPROVED. Putin's "argument" is based upon a FALSE Neo-Stalinist "history". Putin is a FASCIST, as were Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin. And I'm still waiting for you to NAME NAMES of those who are Biden's "puppeteers". The fact is you have no regard for fact or history, for EVIDENCE. You're an intellectually lazy sloth who falls for every bit of bullshit that comes your way -- so long as it is sufficiently ridiculous.
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@stanleythompson5321 I adhere to fact and law. Facts include HISTORY. Putin has his OPINION about NATO, but it is really not within his legitimate purview. His PLAN is OBVIOUS: to re-subjugate the eastern European nations that CHOSE -- as SOVEREIGN NATIONS -- to join NATO. In other words: you APPROVE of Putin's ILLEGAL GENOCIDAL INVASION of SOVEREIGN NATION Ukraine. And to respond to another bit of your ignorance: education is not indoctrination because education teaches critical think -- the OPPOSITE of indoctrination. That's why HISTORY, of which you are IGNORANT, matters. And I'm still waiting for you to NAME NAMES of Biden's "puppeteer/s". But I'll bet I already know: the "World Jewish Conspiracy" or their rival "Jewish World Conspiracy," or whatever other paranoid fantasies you can come up with as excuse for your intellectual laziness. This is your last opportunity to NAME NAMES, and provide EVIDENCE. Avoiding that RESPONSIBILITY again and you go to my spam filter.
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@stanleythompson5321 The other SOVEREIGN NATIONS VOTED to join in keeping with their national interest -- not wanting to be re-subjugated by Russia. You don't even have a clue as to the purpose of NATO: 1. European countries had for centuries been warring among themselves. 2. The US got sucked into two wars instigated by European countries. 3. NATO was established to put an end to those European wars -- and has been SUCCESSFUL. 4. NATO was established as the first line of defense of the United States -- and as we are seeing is SUCCESSFUL at that. Ukraine HAS NOT applied for NATO membership. And PUTIN has NO SAY in the matter, because the SOVEREIGN NATIONS that have or will choose to join NATO are NOT RUSSIA. Before Zelnskey: Paul Manfort -- you heard of him; he was chairman of the campaign of your "hero" Trump -- with a partner helped elected the pro-RUSIA president of Ukraine. That campaign included stolen emails. The Ukrainian people drove that president out of power and he fled to RUSSIA. Manafort became chair of Trump's campaign, and his partner became head of Bernie Sander campaign. The partner was forced to resign when the Sanders campaign was caught hacking the DNC. This is the last time I'm going to respond to your ahistorical and anti-historical JUNK. Wallow in my spam folder.
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@stanleythompson5321 You know nothing of the ACTUAL HISTORY. The US's involvement in Vietnam was the SECOND Vietnam War. The first was against France. And after the second was the third, against China. Spam foldered.
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@stanleythompson5321 I have a spam folder in my email account. Spam foldered.
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@xL0stKIlah Only if one scrimped. So, no, they were not livable.
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@xL0stKIlah Amazing how you know more about "then" -- when you didn't exist -- that those who were actually there know. As the cost of living has increased, so has pay. The pay was barely subsistence then, as it is barely subsistence now.
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@xL0stKIlah The pay has increased. But it is still insufficient, as it was then. Pay-check-to-pay-check and less has always existed. Yes, it is amazing that one CAN learn from older generations -- I knew that as a teenager, but it was natural, not amazing. And yet I didn't accept everything from the older generations -- I knew 60 year olds who hadn't learned anything since they were teenagers. I was born in 1948, and all the adults around me were still processing their experiences of the Depression and world war II. I was born into a military family; but in high school became anti-war. Then again, except for a tiny percentage of fools, those who've seen war are anti-war.
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@Attmay And who invented the opposite extreme FASCISM? You're ignorant of history. Before Hitler went after the Jews he targeted for extermination: 1. Communists. 2. Socialists. 3. Liberals. 4. Trade unionists. BECAUSE, moron, Communism and Fascism are EQUAL AND OPPOSITE EXTREMES. It's typical of you brainwashees against what you are TOLD is "communism," even when it isn't, to adopt the opposite EXTREME that is FASCISM. Look at the so-called "Proud Boys": they are a street gang with a POLITICAL agenda: FACISM. They hate "communists" -- but also hate Jews and Blacks. And, were they to run out of those to attack they'd turn on YOU or anyone else who happened to hold a different view. They are no different than Hitler's "Brown Shirts". And once Hitler established his regime he established the SS to take out, first, the "Brown Shirts" because he didn't need them or their overtly violent tactics.
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@Attmay You're an illiterate preaching FASCISM. READ the First Amendment, dumb-assed punk.
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We still live in a society.
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So you believe that alienation is something new? Perhaps you should research the 1920s-30s "Left Banke" in Paris. Alienation has always existed -- and often self-inflicted.
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@charlesparr1611 And how do you determine a privilege is "unearned"? Be specific. And name names. Oh, you can't -- you're simply engaging in a perceivedly-"clever" generalization? And from whom did you get the idea that the "Boomers" who PROTESTED AGAINST US involvement in Vietnam were in agreement with those -- peers, parents, or grandparents -- who SUPPORTED that involvement? What we do know -- you may be the exception -- is that humans are imperfect and prone to making mistakes (your generation being the exception, of course). And that SOME humans learn to learn from their mistakes -- at the least to not make the same mistake again and again and again. When in my elementary school, teen years, and twenties, I didn't automatically REJECT ENTIRE prior generations and their views because that would be the ultimate in DUMBASSED. Where I agreed with my peers, parents, and grandparents, I agreed; where I disagreed I said so. All in all, my values are the same today as they were then: I believe in REASON -- which is a VERB -- not in fixed ideological distortions used as self-serving excuse-making, the only goal of which is to blame everyone else -- "Boomers" in this instance -- for one's situation, instead of TAKING INDIVUDAL RESPONSIBILITY for DOING something about it. The idea that everyone else isn't dealing with the same situation is what the narcissistic self-centering is all about.
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@charlesparr1611 Is there anything more reactionary than blaming an undifferentiated "Boomers" generation for all the ills in the world? Tip: Who will you blame after all the "Boomers" are dead? I suggest you focus on the assholes in YOUR generation -- they'll still be with you.
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@vvvvxxxx9999 We still live in a society. BTW: do you have an iPhone or the equivalent?
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@vvvvxxxx9999 Are you a bot?
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@michaelweston409 Are you that certain?
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@bcubed72 Nope -- you can continue to be an intolerant bigot. It's your right to shrink your little world to as small as you can make it. All to continue to delude yourself that being an ignorant asshole makes you superior. So you'll never learn that one can get along with others without being a "kiss-ass".
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@bcubed72 Yes: prejudice impacts the bigot also. And you're stuck in name-calling against people you don't know. How's your love of Trump and his co-fascists doing for ya? Oh, right: "lefties" are the problem, not the third generation New York con-man and career criminal. From my assessment Hunter Thompson was a right-winger. The other two are so miniscule in influence, and so "fringe" of their own, as to be irrelevant. But it doesn't surprise that you're hung-up in extremism and bashing of the opposite extreme. Thankfully that isn't the actual larger reality: most people aren't arrogant punks who reject education and believe themselves therefore "superior" to all those who aren't fruit-loops.
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@bcubed72 You're an ass in a rabbit hole of fun-house mirrors. You see "lefties" everywhere you look because it is a false image in your head that you project on anyone who believes differently than you. And being a "misanthrope" is a pretense, a pose, a falsity on which one bases one's fake moral superiority. All of that being a substitute for knowing anything factual at all.
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@bcubed72 A misanthrope hates the human race, without exception. The misanthrope is a member of the human race, therefore SELF-hate is the determining factor.
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@bcubed72 "It's literally impossible for a misanthrope to be a bigot." Bigots hate. Misanthropes hate the human race. Misanthropes are members of the human race. SELF-hate is the determining factor.
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@bcubed72 You treat YOURSELF as SUPERIOR to everyone else. As said, misanthropy is inflated self-importance -- and ego trip. It is a FAKE pose.
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@at_brunch3852 Here we go again -- fantasy "opinion" based on being drunk on someone else's cork. Not all "Hippies" became "Yuppies". And not everything labeled and sold as "organic" is "organic". And not all things "organic" are sufficiently nutritious.
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@bcubed72 Yes: you are a misanthrope against your SUPERIORS. In reality your simply a jerk who stupidly believes claiming to be a "misanthrope" makes you superior and puts you in a special category ABOVE all other humans. Alas, the category "jerk" isn't special; it is stuffed to overflowing with oblivious ego-tripping posers.
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@bcubed72 Fuck off, punk. All you are is a juvenile bullshitter hoping to become a teenager.
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@bcubed72 Go play your games with the other children; I haven't time for them.
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@stuburd951 Another who knows nothing about Marxism, and nothing about higher education.
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@Christopher_Bachm Yeah -- you're a "victim" of anti-American propaganda.
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@bryanprillwitz2394 It's YOUR responsibility to "look it up" in order to back up your bald-faced assertion with EVIDENCE. 'Course, you also don't "look it up" because your assertion makes no sense.
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College was about LEARNING TO LEARN. It was NOT about getting a job. Your generation has no idea as to the purpose of education beyond $$$.
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@abc4781 And without going to college you aren't likely to earn enough to pay tuition. But, then again, to you everything is about $$$. My generation didn't teach you that.
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@abc4781 You're a closed-minded twit. You pay taxes to fund education so that an educated population has an alternative to being criminals. You stupid twits are always whining about others, pointing your fingers away from yourselves, instead of getting off your lazy asses and DOING something in effort to PROVE your "case". It's always SOMEONE ELSE'S fault to those who shift their responsibility onto others. That is intellectually, morally, and ethically IRRESPONSIBLE. Will your sort EVER GROW UP?
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@Lonovavir Who is making it impossible? Biden and other Boomers are working to cancel the debt -- but to you the "Boomers" generation is a monolith because you're a simpleton. The same generation you SMEAR got the US out of Vietnam, and mainstreamed the environmental movement. You are SO ignorant of history.
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The Exiled Lioness You are viewing university education as being a "jobs program". It is not. It is about much more than "job training". Majoring in the arts, literature as example, is as important as medicine and law -- because, well, LITERACY. And being able to see beyond one's own little world.
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@Attmay And what will the generations who bash "Boomers" have to answer for?
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@Attmay How many in the generations that bash "Boomers" voted for Trump? And how many of them were participants in the insurrection? Those generations already have much for which to answer. In contrast, the "Boomers" were CONSTRUCTIVE -- got the US out of Vietnam, got both criminals Agnew and Nixon, and mainstreamed the environmental movement.
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@michaelweston409 Yeah -- those who haven't been to college or university are the best judges of college and university education. That is, of course, the circular "logic" of the extreme right-wing. Only the terminally stupid would buy into the idea that stupidity is "smart". The purpose of college and university education is not reducible to "better job".
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@michaelweston409 You aren't competent in the basics of your native language -- AND you oppose education? Clue: Stupidity isn't smart.
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@michaelweston409 It's a good thing we don't need experts -- "elites" -- according to the anti-elitist elite.
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@connerblank5069 You have the basic premise wrong: if you want a "good job," go to a VOCATIONAL school. But if one wants HIGHER education BEYOND mere monetary concerns, then attend a college or university. It is THAT education that teaches MORE than "getting a good job". Of what value, as example, is the study of philosophy? Will it get you a "good job"? No. But it might prepare you to be a GOOD CITIZEN. Get over yourself: you are not the only person who matters.
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@connerblank5069 At present there are more jobs than there are applicants for them. In a job market that advantages the job-seeker you're whining about a right-wing program to reduce the population to philistines who reject not merely education but control over their own lives. You have it ass backwards, which is exactly as the right-wing/Republicans want it: they want you to CONTINUE to vote AGAINST your own interests.
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"Every SINGLE person matters. That's why I'm pissed that the bottom half of the country". It's much more than the bottom half. And you think that reality didn't exist before the "Boomers"? There was a time when SLAVERY was LEGAL. There was a time when not all slaves -- wage or otherwise -- were BLACK. Clue: the world -- not only the United States -- is fucked up because HUMANS ARE IMPERFECT. That imperfection includes YOU.
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@ronaldreagan5981 The real problem is bigotry against college and university education by those who haven't sufficient education to judge that they are condemning. We can blame, at latest, racist and seditionist Reagan for that. We see that in the ERROR in assuming that the primary purpose of education is to make money. That OMITS the fact that you are member of a SOCIETY, and that a greater purpose of education is to teach how to be good citizens. That does not eliminate criticisms of society or gov't; rather, it makes the criticisms INFORMED instead of simply stupid bashings.
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Mr. Tibs As attested to by a person who has never attended a college or university, and whose "values" are misguided. The greater purpose of education is to produce responsible citizens, not instead HYPERGREED, which is SOCIOPATHY.
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@eshnd-1 You can't be convinced because your confident ignorance is in your way.
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@algae_ By people who actually attended college or university or people who wished they had. But they were OLDER than you, thus had more EXPERIENCE than you, so what did they know that one born already knowing it all didn't know? You are preaching the Republican plan to dumb down the population into political docility and powerlessness. And you're response to that is behave exactly like the propagandized monkey they want you to be.
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@RichArchilles And you believe they aren't controlling your career opportunities by LECTURING to you that education is worthless?
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@kavky Uh, no: it is the failure of those who fail. The professor, being a professor, was obviously NOT a failure. There are other higher education technical programs that are both legitimate and which weed out those who can't cut it. That isn't the fault of the "system," the curricula, or the educational process. As I repeatedly note: those who know nothing about education baselessly consider themselves the best judge of it. And those who blame others for their failures are irresponsible; what they need is a few courses in philosophy -- especially the subset ETHICS, thereby learning that "individual responsibility" does not consist of blaming everyone and the world for one's own failures. Or using every available excuse to avoid challenging oneself because one is simply LAZY.
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@justadude598 "thinking the only way to learn is from an institution is ignorant in and of itself." It is ignorant to exclude yourself from opportunities about which you know NOTHING based on hogwash about learning from the Internet, where 99 per cent of the information is JUNK.
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@justadude598 "The gender studies class didn't "open my mind" it just showed me how ridiculous the whole gender debate is." In other words, you didn't learn anything because you went in already a know-it-all. You didn't even learn the basic distinction between anatomy and gender/psychosexual identity. College and university CAN be reduced to "reading and writing" -- but that omits the REQUIREMENT that one learn CRITICAL THINKING. One is not likely to learn that outside contexts which REQUIRE one learn and use CRICITAL THINKING.
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@tylerharris4392 Asshole: try being eligible for the draft during war time.
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@tylerharris4392 And in college and university one goes beyond reading books to critical evaluation and discussion of them. It's about learning HOW TO THINK.
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@tylerharris4392 And no one needs to be discouraged from going to college by a Republican program designed to do exactly that.
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@tylerharris4392 There have been trade schools for many generations. They didn't survive because all the training was "on the job". All you're doing is spouting bullshit -- fact-free -- excuses.
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@kavky "forcing planned obsolescence on textbooks by reissuing new editions every year with superficial differences between editions". Try using last year's textbooks in law or medicine, know-it-all.
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@justadude598 You know nothing about China and the percentage of its educated population.
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@jedbex7070 Actually they didn't. The student loan problem is result of private for-profit middlemen.
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@miladyfeliciano1976 "How can government allow these higher educational institutions charge that kind of money to get a college degree?" Because they are private institutions, not gov't.
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@thevoidisshining Education is a must. If you choose to be stupid then take responsibility for the consequences.
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@The_WatchList False. College tuitions exploded because of administrators being highly paid, an hiring multiple levels of administrative assistants. It's the same in corporate health "care": the CEO is paid multiple millions but never sees any patients.
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@connerblank5069 So law firms should hire anyone who walks in the door, even if they only got as far as a GED!?
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@connerblank5069 So how is society generally, and employers, as example, specifically, to determine the QUALIFICATIONS of, as example, lawyers, without a degree from an accredited law school? And that question applies across the board. Thus the invention, also, of the resume. A short order cook can be trained within a relatively short time on the job. But that does not qualify the person to be a high-level chef. Society has learned as a matter of necessity to make the distinctions you are challenging as being "unnecessary". That's precisely the same as the point I continue to make: those who have never been to college or university believing themselves qualified to judge the efficacy of college or university education. I've been seeing these bashers of college and university educations for decades. They are stupid people who don't know what they're talking about, and are too stupid -- or dishonest -- to admit that fact.
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@connerblank5069 You seem new to your awareness of how the system works. But you're mistaken to believe that is new. The US was founded on genocide and slavery. It has always put profit over people. A significant percentage of "Boomers" were working to change that -- and now subsequent generations who are stone ignorant of history are blaming "Boomers" not only for the (dis)functioning of the system but also for the condition of the world. I'd love to have those history illiterates tell about a glorious past when everything was to their liking. In view of their inability to see beyond themselves they'll probably point to all of history before the "liberalism" of the liberal democracy established by the LIBERAL Founders began to be made real.
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@justadude598 Yeah -- just "Google" and find all sorts of information, 99 per cent of which is JUNK. How about attempting to answer whatever the question YOURSELF -- ignorance got your tongue?
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@justadude598 But it is your responsibility to back up your assertions with "Google" information that is credible.
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@miladyfeliciano1976 The gov't has limited regulatory authority over non-gov't entities. And some prefer private universities to state.
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@justadude598 In other words you can tell others to do your work for you. But when pointed out to you that that is your responsibility, you revert to characteristic laziness. Or perhaps you aren't able to determine that the Internet information you rely on is junk. Perhaps, worse, you don't care because it's all a game of oneupsmanship, and you will use even bullshit to "win". In any event you aren't worth being viewed as at all serious even about serious issues.
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@justadude598 Nope: it was not "the system pushing its agenda". It was a university providing information about REALITY that you mistake as being "agenda". You had a choice of electives, and you chose that one because you figured you already knew it all about all the others. I had to take a year-long seminar in science -- based in genetics. I had no interest in it, but it was a requirement, so I decided I could "enjoy" it as long as I had to take it. I pulled an A. Sometimes we have no choice but to deal with unpleasant realities. We can do that, or we can try to avoid and bullshit our way around them. One chooses to grow, or one chooses to avoid.
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@justadude598 I learned critical thinking in junior and high school. Most of my classmates did not. And most of my classmates through elementary school had as their first major life goal quitting school at 16. They got their anti-education worldview from their uneducated parents.
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@justadude598 I loved school. The only problem was that there were people there who didn't want to be, and they made it miserable for those who did. But society needs the educated -- we do not live in the agrarian 18th century. And I had no support in attending college -- where I wanted to be beginning at 12. No one "pushed" or encouraged it. I had to do it on my own. And figuring I had to bust my ass just to survive it I got straight As. I would have got A+s if they'd existed. I've never heard or seen any pushing of college or university; but I have had university schoolmates who were there to "get a better job," and who settled for Bs because "good enough". The hunger for education I experienced can't be unique to me; so they were occupying seats which should have been occupied by the hungry for learning. Otherwise, if the MISGUIDED believe school after high school is about "better jobs," then attend vocational schools. Just cease bashing that with which you have ZERO experience: college and university -- else you sound envious.
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@ion6538 "The worst thing is convincing employers that applicants need college degrees & 5 years experience". What CONVINCES the employer is the EMPLOYER'S EXPERIENCE -- and the wage expectations of potential employees. Potential employees tend to overvalue their views and market value. We see that in the generations who put all blame on the condition of the world on "Boomers" -- totally ignoring facts, such as the reality that the world has ALWAYS been fucked up because ALL humans are imperfect, and that they are distracting themselves from the assholes in THEIR generations.
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@ion6538 Yep: your generation, being perfect, can only mean that all fault lies everywhere but on your generation.
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@libertariantranslator1929 I see: another victim of the neat little slogan that keeps your mind closed. You don't know what you're talking about. The problem is that you don't know that you don't know what you're talking about. "Libertarianism": "If you are mugged and your wallet stolen, it's your own damned fault for having had a wallet." You're a dupe.
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@NPC-qf8pc Do you have any idea what percentage of Boomers FINALLY had the opportunity, as a generation, to attend college? How many Boomers can afford to pay their kid's college tuitions -- I had ZERO help, emotional or financial, from MY parents when it came to my attending college? WHO is CHARGING the high tuitions -- the Boomers? Or third-party middleman corporations who are holding the debt? You're blind hatred is going to hit you hard when all the Boomers are gone and you wake to that fact that you are being FUCKED by people of YOUR OWN generation.
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@youtubesucks1499 No, they don't realize that, because they reject education which would teach them that fact. And all because they are clueless as to the purpose of college education beyond merely "getting a good job". These are people who neither feel nor believe they have any sort of social responsibility -- such as being aware that they exist in a society, and that it is made harder than necessary for everyone by being unaware of and ignoring that fact. And how many claim to be "Christians" yet ignore the fact that GREED is one of the "Seven Deadly Sins"?
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@poogissploogis Correct. The problem is that those without education don't know the value of education for that very reason. And the exceedingly narrow and self-depriving singular focus on money without any awareness of the value of the non-materialist things of life.
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@firebird4491 Most of my peers rejected education -- their first major life goal was to quit school when they were 16. they were the children of people who taught them to reject learning, and they gave birth to a generation that rejects education. The constitute the class "white trash" and the cult MAGA.
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@ryeguy7941 One of the worst things the Republicans did during the last 50 years is remove legitimate history from high school curricula so people like you don't know what you're talking about. It was the REALITY that until such as Reagan that getting a college/university education was worthwhile. And the understanding was that higher education is not about "getting a better job"; it is about learning how to learn, which is a lifelong necessity. But instead of knowing what it is talking about, your generation is a pack of whining babies that blames "Boomers" for your unwillingness to get off your asses and do the work necessary to achieve your goals. You know what the "Boomers" DID do? We got the US out of Vietnam, in which it had been involved since WW II. We got criminals Agnew (look him up) and Nixon out of office. We learned in junior high -- "middle school" -- science, during the late 1950s-very early 1960s -- about climate change. We mainstreamed the ecology -- environmental -- movement and established Earth Day. Take responsibility for your lives: stop blaming everyone else for the predicament in which you find yourself: your prison is of your own creation.
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You were born knowing it all, so don't need to be - and can't be -- taught anything. At university one's learns BOTH how to learn and how to UNlearn. When will you begin to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for YOUR INTERPRETATION of events -- AND CORRECTING of the ERRORS in that? Or do you still demand that you be SPOON FED -- only to reject it all because it all tastes like spinach?
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@lkgstudios Which FACTION of "Boomers" caused the apparent damage? There were the Republicans, who supported US involvement in Vietnam -- but dodged the draft and refused to enlist. They were always "superior" in their entitled arrogance to those who didn't have their means. To the "Boomer's" who demanded that the US get out of Vietnam. The blind bashing of "Boomers" fails to recognize that NO generation is a monolith. Who TAUGHT the bashers THAT stupidity? Or did they come up with it themselves rather than LEARN -- rather than be "corrected" in their false assumptions and conclusions?
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@lkgstudios Yeah -- the SOME FEW of the "Boomers" invented the personal computer, and social media, which the subsequent generations use to bash the negative results, to which the subsequent generations contribute by spewing history- and fact-illiterate bashings of ALL "Boomers". I'd suggest they look up the word "Luddite," and even "hypocrite," but I doubt they know how to use dictionaries.
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@lkgstudios " focus on self and a lack of will to think about long term repercussions. That's undeniable." Isn't that a projection -- the subsequent generations, instead of thinking at all, are blaming everyone but themselves for their situation. And at the same time are stupidly rejecting education because they were TAUGHT by those who WANT them stupid to reject education. How many of those fools were born already knowing it all? Geez, they know all about college and university education WITHOUT EVER HAVING BEEN IN COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY. What they are is intellectually lazy goof-offs who, when handed an excuse to sit on their asses, will guzzle the excuse. And that's considering not only consequences but the "long term"!?
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@lkgstudios EVERY generation is imperfect. And EVERY generation is made up of factions. And EVERY generation screws up some things. Let's watch the subsequent generations screw up so we can laugh at them until they STFU and engage, for the first time in their lives, in INTROSPECTION. Until then, of course, they can continue to pretend they haven't fucked up ALREADY.
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@lkgstudios Some think in of the long term. Some do not. The generations who bash the "Boomers" for the world being "fucked up" -- it's always been "fucked up" because humans are imperfect -- don't think at all. They're pissed because their sense of entitlement -- were they "spoiled" by their parents? -- is out of whack with actual reality. So they adopt and spew the reactionary minority view of the Republicans/right-wingers who want allies and or an uneducated docile population suckered by snake oil. So they preach the same sociopathic poison as Republicans and Trump: stupidity is "smart": they way to "make it" is to reject reason and rules -- and the rule of law. Cheating is the only way to "get ahead". Apparently material wealth makes up for -- as a distraction from -- self-abnegation.
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@stanleythompson5321 Again, the "Boomers" were and are not a monolith. It was the "Boomers" who ended US involvement in Vietnam -- which began immediately after WW II. And use of fossil fuels began generations before the "Boomers"; and your "alternative" is nuclear? Dr. Benjamin Spock became an activist against both war and the proliferation of nuclear when it was found, during the 1950s -- when the "Boomers" were children -- that plutonium was found in mother's milk. And research the Berrigan brothers -- also from the generation before the "Boomers". Your persistence in false seeing the "Boomers" as a monolith is the determined stupidity to which I point. You are making the very same mistakes a significant portion of the "Boomer" generation WORKED AGAINST. It was the "Boomers" who welcomed the "Pill". It was the "Boomers" who succeeded in establishing Roe . Your ignorance of history is DESTRUCTIVELY stupid.
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And you're STILL not LISTENING. Yours is the spoiled generation that wallows in self-pity.
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YOU are responsible for your education. That is, if you're sufficiently mature to grasp that fact. Stop blaming others for your stupidity -- for YOUR following of the line of least resistance AGAINST whatever your parents were TRYING to teach you. And as all the whiners' comments on this video reveal, you DO NOT LISTEN, therefore you DO NOT LEARN.
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@stanleythompson5321 Again, you are IGNORANT OF HISTORY: US involvement WITH Vietnam BEGAN with supporting the French in Indochina -- the French colonial "umbrella" incorporating Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam -- immediately after WW II. Then, when the French were blown out at Dien Bien Phu, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT EISENHOWER -- NOT a "Boomer" -- began putting "advisors" into South Vietnam. NONE of those were of the "Boomer" generation. I WAS THERE, jackass: the "Hippies" WERE OF THE "BOOMER" GENERATION. And it WAS NOT the "Hippies" alone -- in fact they were APOLITICAL; wanted NOTHING to do with gov't and "all that"; they were "tune in, turn on, and DROP OUT" -- who got the US out of Vietnam. It was COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY STUDENTS -- you know, those who "didn't need college to get a job" because college/university IS NOT A JOBS PROGRAM. There is more to learn about the vast wide world than simply how to feed one's profoundly shallow GREED. More to learn about what it means to be human than how to maximize one's income -- that's the CORRUPTION against which you are willy-nilly railing. What those students DID learn in college/university was HISTORY, and POLITICAL SCIENCE -- which are NOT about "getting jobs," but which ARE about KNOWING WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. Since you morons don't "learn" anything that requires actual books and study, WATCH THE PBS DOCUMENTARY about the HISTORY of US involvement in Vietnam, titled: "The Vietnam War". It actually BEGINS with an OSS officer ("OSS" was precursor to CIA) warning that the US NOT get involved in Vietnam. Even the French president warned the US NOT to get involved in Vietnam. NONE of those were "Boomers". Here's a significant fact, just at random: The US got directly involved in WW II in 1941 with the attack on Pearl Harbor and the subsequent declaration of war against the US by Nazi Germany. But that same war began in Asia with the invasion by Japan of China in 1937. Research "Rape of Nanking". Other VIDEOS to watch: "The Roosevelts: An Intimate History" (PBS); "The First World War" (Image); "The World at War" ("A&E" -- this is MASSIVE); "Carlos" (Criterion); "Che" (Criterion). You have NO IDEA what was going on in the world AT THE SAME TIME as US involvement in Vietnam (see "Carlos" and "Che"; READ Paulo Freire), and the "Boomers" OPPOSING that involvement, so have NO perspective on ANY of it. You're full of baseless grudge, baseless self-pity, and REFUSE TO LISTEN thereby REFUSING TO LEARN.
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@bluehairedaigaming They avoid the reality in which they exist. And that is an avoidance of their responsibilities as citizens, beginning with being educated and knowledgeable of the actual facts in place of pie-in-the-sky generated by entitled whining. They are "victims" of their own self-pity. Let them be eligible for the draft -- which the "Boomers" succeeded in eliminating -- during war time if they want to know what "doom" feels like.
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@bluehairedaigaming The Republicans have been about impoverishing the 99 per cent since at latest Reagan. They have been opposed to Social Security since it was first proposed. The Federalist Society" -- see the majority on the Supreme Court -- since before there was an Internet had a single white paper on their computer bulletin board; it was titled: "How to Repeal the 'New Deal'". The heart of the "New Deal" is Social Security. The Republicans have pursued a multiprong approach, one of which is to denigrate education with it's canard that one doesn't need to go to college or university to get a better job. Despite the fact that they see and frame everything in terms of money, college and university education -- higher education -- is not a "jobs program". There is more to life than working oneself to death for some ever-elusive goal of wealth. So the flow of wealth has been from the 99 to the 1 per cent. That is the Republican plan: more and more wealth in fewer and fewer hands.
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@Christopher_Bachm Infotainment -- Reagan -- and angertainment -- Reagan communications director Roger Ailes and FOX. One only learns from propaganda the techniques used by propagandists. Or one believe it and it leads one to self-destructiveness.
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@Christopher_Bachm No: you are repeating Putin's threat to use nukes. And thus you DEFEND Putin's ILLEGAL GENOCIDAL INVASION of SOVEREIGN Ukraine. You're either a Russian troll or an anti-American moron. YOU are the "soap opera".
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@Christopher_Bachm I'm attacking your "ideas," which reveal ignorance of history. How many accounts do you have on youtube? What are the other screen names you use?
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@Christopher_Bachm Pay attention, INFANT: I am not a child. I don't guzzle and regurgitate crackpot propaganda popular with some factions who operate according to baseless "grievances". Nothing you're spewing is new -- and it hasn't been true since it originated decades ago. The upside down and ass-backward defenses of FASCIST Putin are transparently obvious. They make no sense, but are transparently obvious. Regurgitating them doesn't make you "discerning" or "clever";; it makes you a "True Believer" fool.
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@Christopher_Bachm The threat of WWIII is originates with POTIN, and you are repeating it. PUTIN ILLIGALLY INVADED SOVEREIGN NATION UKRAINE AND HAS BEEN ENGAGED IN THE WAR CRIMES OF ATTACKING CIVILIANS AND CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE. You are DEFENDING that.
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@Christopher_Bachm Your regurgitation of PUTIN'S threats is CORRUPT. SPAM folder for you.
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@Christopher_Bachm I have an education in literature and law. I was born in 1948 -- do the math. I leave the bullshitting to newbies such as you who substitute Internet junk for knowledge of the actual history. Putin ILLEGALLY INVADED UKRAINE -- and YOU DEFEND THAT. I've had more than enough of the anti-democratic/pro-tyranny propaganda from you illiterate punks. SPAM folder.
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@miguelconti1296 You know nothing about Marxism. It's just a dirty word that you morons love to sling.
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@iamjustsaying4787 You have it ass backwards. It was; "Don't trust anyone OVER 30." And isn't that what YOU are doing? And that slogan wasn't true for everyone: many of us learned from our elders, especially grandparents: the environmental and anti-nuclear movements began during the late 1940s, around the time of the births of the oldest "Boomers". And it was the "Boomers" who MAINSTREAMED the environmental movement, and got the US out of Vietnam. And ended the draft so you have the leisure of sitting on your asses on social media bashing the generation that invented the personal computer and social media based upon your continuing avoidance of LEARNING THE FACTS. And yet again the problem with you self-pitying morons is that you don't know the ACTUAL HISTORY. In short: you don't know what you're talking about. Imagine reducing the antiwar movement to "Hippies" -- who in fact were APOLITICAL -- "tune in, turn on, DROP OUT" -- with nary a mention of the college and university student protests, let alone Kent State. Those were not "fun times" or "glory days" for those of us involved in them.
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