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Comments by "J Nagarya" (@jnagarya519) on "Prosecutors weigh in on Mar-a-Lago search | Dan Abrams Live" video.
The warrant was authorized on Friday. The warrant was executed the next Monday.
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@robertwadas If he complied with the subpoena, then why did he still have another 27 boxes of gov't property at MAGA-Lardo?
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There was no "rush". First the 15 boxes were seized. After that Trump claimed there were no more classified documents -- but that meant there were unclassified documents which are GOV'T-OWNED documents. Basic fact: ALL information generated by ALL gov't employees belongs TO THE GOV'T, regardless whether classified or not. So there were months of "negotiation" with Trump, as the DOJ, acting in behalf of the National Archives and Records Administration, attempted to retrieve ALL the documents still ILLEGALLY in Trump's possession. He was not forthcoming, so he was served with a grand jury subpoena. He ignored THAT. And one of his lawyers attested in writing that he didn't have any more documents. But apparently someone who knew better was communicating with the FBI. So, based on the detailed record of the efforts to retrieve ALL documents he was ILLEGALLY WITHHOLDING, the DOJ AND FBI obtained a warrant for search -- and seized 27 MORE boxes of STOLEN gov't property. The fact is that the DOJ/FBI bent over backwards -- which they wouldn't have done for you or I. But Trump REFUSED to cooperate. So the DOJ/FBI had no other options than the warrant for search, which was secret and sealed until TRUMP made it public.
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@jeri5645 Yeah, why bother with the facts when it's so much easier to remain ignorant.
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@jeri5645 No one elected you to speak for all. "We" may be tired of it, but it is reality, and a pressing reality. Democracy is on the line -- and you'll like the alternative even less.
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@jeri5645 The current administration is restoring sanity, and its legislative successes benefit YOU. You must be one of the millions who had no interest in or knowledge of politics -- then Trump ran for election and you suddenly became an expert by promptly falling for a New York con-man and career criminal. The warrant for search issue is a simple case: Trump STOLE gov't property, some of which is classified.
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@jeri5645 I adhere to facts and law. I have no patience with those who ignore either or both.
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@jeri5645 It takes years to learn patience. And I have exceptional patience. There has been much bashing of AG Garland and the DOJ, with which I'm impatient, because I have unwavering faith in AG Garland, because one must be patient with legal process. And I know his history.
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@xx_Joker_xx While Hillary Clinton was Sec. of State -- therefore authorized to handle classified information -- and was using a private server, it was well known that the State Dept.'s official means of communication of classified information had been repeatedly hacked. Her server was never hacked. And the investigation not only undeleted the deleted emails, but it was found that the several classified items on her server were RECEIVED by her not SENT. That is why she was not penalized: she actually avoided having classified information hacked and made public. And there is no evidence that Anthony Weiner was a pedophile. And methinks the over-the-top extremism of accusing others of pedophilia is actually an effort by those accusers to suppress their own pedophilic urges: what is in THEIR minds is about THEM. Omiting those facts is typical of hate-mongering fools who are ignorant of how the gov't is structured, how the gov't functions, and of basic REASON. ALL information generated by gov't employees is the property of THE GOV'T. Trump STOLE gov't property, some of which is classified. We have that EVIDENCE in place of your UNEVIDENCED allegations against "everyone is corrupt". So if we adhere to facts and EVIDENCE, and we don't ignore TRUMP'S OWN security officials REFUTING Trump's declassification excuses, we have this relevant question: Is Trump above the law? You should change your fake handle from "JOKER" to "SILLY" for spewing ignorant gibberish.
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His STEALING the gov't property was a crime. His refusal to return the gov't property compounded the crime. And, of course, they are quoting Trump and omitting facts that show he is, as usual, LYING.
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@robertwadas All false. And the MONTHS of negotiations have been detailed by other than Trump's lawyers -- who either tell Trump's lies or get fired. After the 15 boxes Trump claimed he didn't have anything more. The FBI knew he was lying. They SUBPOENAED -- and Trump IGNORED the subpoena. In short, Trump REFUSED to cooperate, which in the end left only one option: warrant for search.
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@robertwadas Trump STOLE gov't property. Is Trump above the law?
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@robertwadas Trump STOLE gov't property. Is Trump above the law?
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@robertwadas Is Trump above the law?
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@highpriestofgavinalmightyh1304 You aren't paying attention. It was discovered that there were 15 boxes of presidential records at MAGA-Lardo. In other words, Trump STOLE 15 boxes of GOV'T PROPERTY. Those were retrieved by NARA, and provided to the DOJ for analysis. Meanwhile, Trump was asked for any additional gov't property in Trump's possession. He said there was none, but someone was telling the FBI that he did have more. The FBI bent over backwards allowing Trump to "negotiate" the issue with them -- which was the usual Trump delay, delay, delay. Finally Trump was subpoenaed -- and he IGNORED THAT. Finally the DOJ/FBI took the only means left: warrant for search. And what did they find? -- another double-figure count of BOXES of STOLEN GOV'T PROPERTY. As for the UNEVIDENCED smears against the FBI and DOJ: the FBI knows how CRIMINALS react to law enforcement by pretending to be victims: these forensic searches are DOCUMENTED with photographs and video from BEGINNING TO END in anticipation that the CRIMINAL will LIE about the execution of the warrant. WHINE all you want, SNOWFLAKE: Trump lost the elections in his home state because he has always been known to be a New York con-man and career criminal.
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@highpriestofgavinalmightyh1304 Have you provided any EVIDENCE that the alleged "laptop" even exists? And according to Rudy "TRUTH ISN'T TRUTH!" Giuliani, HE has the alleged "laptop" hard driveS -- PLURAL. If that is true, then it appears he hard driveS -- plural -- from the alleged "laptop" have been passed around from who knows to who knows, and no one knows how many times, so that any chain of custody has been destroyed. so admission of the hard driveS -- plural -- from an alleged "laptop" are inadmissible as evidence. As to the alleged "data" on the alleged hard driveS -- plural -- from an alleged "laptop": so beyond compromised as to be inadmissible as evidence. So, punk: assuming arguendo that the "laptop" did actually exist: there is nothing probative there because so compromised by the crackpot Giulianis and Trumps of that criminal enterprise that any effort to use whatever it is -- and no one seems to know who has what of any of whatever -- would receive the same response as the 60-plus fake lawsuits that were laughed out of court even by Trump appointed judges.
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@highpriestofgavinalmightyh1304 "absolutely everything you just said is predicated on the idea that the documents he had at Mar-a-Lago were “stolen.“ They were not. In fact, he held government documentation at the same capacity as former presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton held/hold classified government documents after their presidencies." IN FACT, bullshitter: When Trump bashed Obama about "taking" 30 million documents, the National Archives and Records Administration immediately smacked down Trump with the FACTS: The presidential documents available through President Obama's library REMAIN under the administration and control of NARA. That is because gov't documents BELONG TO THE GOV'T, not to the gov't EMPLOYEE who may have generated them. In short: presidential documents do not belong to the president. They belong to WE THE PEOPLE. And NONE of them available in presidential libraries are of any degree of classified, which are kept in a separate facility in the Washington, D.C. area. None of the above is secret. Nor is it a secret that Trump is a constant liar falsely accusing others of doing what he is doing in effort to justify the fact that HE is doing it. Trump STOLE gov't property. It is that simple. And even though he had NOT returned all of those he STOLE he claimed he had. But SOMEONE on the INSIDE flipped on him and spilled the beans about the fact that he STILL had boxes of STOLEN gov't property.
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@highpriestofgavinalmightyh1304 I have an education in law. You are full of shit. Trump STOLE gov't property. It is that simple.
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@robertwadas You omit that Trump's "story" keeps changing. As example, he claims declassification powers which do not in fact exist. But you won't quote anyone who actually speaks to the LAW on these issues. In further fact there is information that can't be declassified by anyone under any circumstances. If you were reasonable you'd recognize that as an obvious fact. And further: in order for a president to "declassify" nuclear information, it would require a process overseen by those responsible for nuclear matters. I know: you want everyone to believe that Trump is above the law and can do anything whatsoever that he pleases -- a "pass" you would never give to a Democratic president because you are a hypocrite. And because you actually know that Trump can't actually do anything whatsoever that he pleases. The bottom line is that you REJECT the rule of law when a Republican is violating it, but are all in on enforcing the law against Democrats even when they haven't violated it. In sum: you are an anti-American zealot who lives to hate those you are told by such as Trump to hate, like a good little brainwashed sheeple. The stupidity of your position is something to savor: you actually believe that if your goal -- the destruction of the rule of law -- were to be achieved then you would still have rights. Nope: rights are secured in the very law you would destroy. One question of you: Is Trump above the law?
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@robertwadas Is Trump above the law?
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@robertwadas The Constitution trumps all subordinate law. "If the president does it it isn't illegal." -- Richard Nixon. That is refuted by the Impeachment Clause. It is also why he needed a pardon in order to avoid prosecution. There is gov't information that can't be declassified by anyone under any circumstances. IN FACT, there ARE laws dictating the requirements as to declassification -- which you'd know if you actually listened to those who know the law. An example is nuclear: in order for any of that to be declassified those involved in nuclear matters MUST be involved. But let's stop with the bullshit: this is what matters, and why none of the three criminal statutes cited as being violated have anything to do with classification: ALL gov't information, regardless by whom generated, is owned BY THE GOV'T, regardless whether classified or not. It's a simple case: Trump STOLE gov't property, SOME of which was classified. NONE of the information generated during his term in office belongs to TRUMP: it ALL belongs to the GOV'T. PRECEDENT: Nixon sued to keep his tapes. He LOST because everything produced during his presidency BELONGS TO THE GOV'T. That has been the law since the first lawsuit ruled upon by the Supreme Court in the 18th century.
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The FBI did not lie -- unless we believe that Trump's lies are actually truth.
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