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  361. It isn't questions that don't "suit" him. It is questions based upon the facts -- his own words -- being thrown back at him. Then his response begins with labeling the questions as "gotcha" questions; and if the reporter persists in completing the question/s, while he is attempting to drown out the questioning by RUDELY interrupting and talking over, he labels the question "nasty". And if it REALLY got under his skin, calls the reporter names. He has been transparently a constant bullshitter all along. His methods are not new, or unknown. I learned to crituqe such in high school, during the 1960s. Perhaps you remember the aspirin commercials on TV, where the person is dressed in a white coat -- like a doctor -- and begins with, "Many doctors recommend . . ." The white coat, and the use of the word "doctor" subconsiciously associates the two, and it is intended that the viewer believe that the man in the white coat is actually a doctor, therefore that his word can be trusted. "Many doctors recommend" -- but no doctors who ALLEGEDLY do so are NAMED. So when Trump begins with, "Lots of people say," and of course not NAMING any, he is actually referring only to himself -- while in other instances he will attack the media for relying on "anonymous sources," which is exaclty what HE is doing, even though he is the source, and not anonymous. Trump's only skill is self-promotion; and how he does that was called, when I was a kid, "Overwhelm with bullshit". Break down his statements and they are mostly cent three and four word phrase-fragments, repeated again and again, all of them ultimately meaningless -- when he says, "lots of people," as example, there are no "lots of people".
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  369.  @dhellis19498  Did you miss the results of the Intelligence Community and Mueller Report? I'll spell it out for you: ___ "No Collusion"? Trump's July 27, 2016 Solicitation of Crime with Russia. This is Webster's definition of "collusion": "Secret agreement or cooperation for a fraudulent or deceitful purpose". How many Trumpeters lied about their contacts with Russians during the Trump-Putin COLLUSION? THIS IS THE LAW: The Model Penal Code defines solicitation as commanding, encouraging, or requesting another person to engage in conduct that constitutes a crime or an attempt to commit a crime (with the intent that the crime be committed). Model Penal Code S. 5.02(1) (1962). Generally the code provides that solicitation be as punishable as the crime solicited. Id. at S. 5.05(1). Law Dictionary, Giffis, at 446. THIS IS THE EVIDENCE: We have Trump on video, in broad daylight, soliciting Russia: "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing." To "find" those emails required computer hacking. Computer hacking is a felony. In fact, he solicited a series of felonies, beginning with computer hacking and stealing private property, through to receiving and possessing that stolen property. And we know that on the same day as Trump's solicitation, within hours thereafter, Russia hacked computers and stole the emails. That made Trump a co-conspirator with Russia. That conspiracy is an additional felony. ____________ PLEASE CIRCULATE INTACT.
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  463. The NRA's Two Second Amendment Lies The gun industry political front NRA tells two lies about the intent of the Second Amendment. 1. That the purpose of the Amendment was to establish a "right" to "take up arms" against the gov't -- which is refuted by the Constitution itself: Art. I., S. 8., C. 15. The Congress shall have Power To provide for calling forth the Militia to . . . SUPPRESS INSURRECTIONS. The Founders themselves twice established the precedent on the point: Under the Articles of Confederation, "Shays's" rebellion was suppressed by the state's Militia, and the rebels charged with, tried for, and convicted of, TREASON, and sentenced to death. And under the Constitution, AFTER the Second Amendment was ratified, the "Whiskey" rebellion was suppressed by Federalized Militia, lead by George Washington, and the rebels charged with, tried for, and convicted of, TREASON, and sentenced to death. 2. That the Second Amendment protects an "individual" "right" to possess guns. Comparison with the several prior Supreme Court decisions, and the legislative history -- the Congress' Debates of the writing of the Amendment, which are LEGAL AUTHORITY -- shows that Scalia's "Heller" decision is an outlier. In "Heller" he falsely held that the Amendment protects an individual right -- for which he was excoriated by legal experts across the political spectrum for ignoring this adjudicatory standard: When a conflict over the interpretation of a law cannot be resolved within the text of the law, one reverts to the legislative history of the law -- in this instance Congress' Debates of the writing of the Amendment. The facts from those Debates: The subject of the Amendment is well regulated Militia, and its purpose to establish a National Defense, relying on that Militia. The Militia is not an individual, and is a public institution, regulated under both Federal and state constitutions and laws; thus the Amendment is irrelevant to the issue of private, individual gun ownership: James Madison is called "the father of the Constitution," and the gun industry/NRA claims that Madison wrote the Second Amendment. If both of those are facts, then the word "people" is consistent in meaning from beginning of the Constitution to the end of the first 10 Amendments. The first three words of the Constitution are "We the people," not, "We the individual". This is the first draft of that which became the Second Amendment, which the gun industry/NRA calls the "Madison" Amendment -- but which it never quotes. [Here I clarify it for the logic-impaired]: "The right of the people [PLURAL] to keep and bear arms [this phrase is the well-regulated Militia, and was drawn from four state constitution Militia Clauses] shall not be infringed; a well armed, and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person [INDIVIDUAL] religiously scrupulous of [AGAINST] bearing arms [in well-regulated Militia] shall be compelled [INVOLUNTARY] to render military service [in well-regulated Militia] in person." Source: Creating the Bill of Rights: The Documentary Record from the First Federal Congress (Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, Paperback, 1991), Edited by Helen E Veit, et al., at 12. (This volume is readily available from Amazon.) Note the word "compelled": Militia service was a DUTY -- not a "right". And note the words "people" and "person": if a person -- individual -- claimed "religious" exemption from that DUTY, his case was scrutinized individually. The only "individual" "right" Congress debated was that last clause -- "but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service" -- and it was obviously dropped from the proposed Amendment before it was ratified. Thus the Second Amendment obviously does not protect "individual" ANYTHING. Only by ignoring the legislative history -- Congress' Debates of the writing of the Amendment, which are LEGAL AUTHORITY -- could Scalia falsely hold that the Amendment protects an "individual" "right". The Congress, as a co-equal branch of gov't, has the authority and power to overturn Supreme Court decisions. Overturn "Heller". PLEASE CIRCULATE INTACT.
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  634.  @russellm2555  Are you referring to the election law changes made by the state REPUBLICAN legislature 18-months before the election -- the constitutionality of which the REPUBLICANS only challenged AFTER the election? Are you paid to be stupid, or are you stupid for free? "Justice and the rule of law are to be ABOVE politics." -- John Adams. You're drowning in the sewer of political pornography fed you be anti-Americans who support domestic terrorism. Here's a question for you to answer: In most states where Trump LOST, all the down-ballot elections went to REPUBLICANS on the SAME ballot as Trump. How does election fraud affect only ONE candidate on the ballot when the voter votes once on the ENTIRE ballot? It doesn't. But let's look at the statistically insignificant amount of voter fraud that occurred: five voted illegally -- twice -- in Pennsylvania. All five were REPUBLICANS. There was one instance reported in Ohio: that was a REPUBLICAN elected official. Get the picture yet? -- it's been the same since at latest Reagan: That which REPUBLICANS do REPUBLICANS accuse OTHERS of doing in order to distract from that which REPUBLICANS do. And you fall for the REPUBLICAN LIES on the issue because YOU DON'T KNOW HOW ELECTIONS ACTUALLY WORK. As example, the propagandist leader of "Project Veritas" wanted to prove how easy it is to vote illegally. So he and his camera went to New Hampshire, and while he filmed, his friend tried to vote ILLEGALLY. He was CAUGHT before he got near the ballot box because ELECTION INTEGRITY PROTECTIONS have been built into the system FOR CENTURIES. If you stand for nothing, in terms of morality, you'll fall for the lies of every two-bit con-man who comes along. The question to ask yourself is why you were so easily suckered by so obvious a con-man as career criminal Trump.
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  660. The various colonies established on "freedom of religion" tended to mean only THEIR "religion"; Massachusetts-Bay was especially tyrannical on this point. But this is how the Founders put them in their place: ___ From the North Carolina constitution adopted on December 18, 1776: "XXXI. That no clergyman, or preacher of the gospel, of any denomination, shall be capable of being a member of either the Senate, House of Commons, or Council of State, while he continues in the exercise of the pastoral function. . . . . "XXXIV. That there shall be no establishment of any one religious church or denomination in this State, in preference to any other; neither shall any person, on any pretence whatsoever, be compelled to attend any place of worship contrary to his own faith or judgment, nor be obliged to pay, for the purchase of any glebe, or the building of any house of worship, or for the maintenance of any minister or ministry, contrary to what he believes right, or has voluntarily and personally engaged to perform; but all persons shall be at liberty to exercise their own mode of worship:--_Provided_, That nothing herein contained shall be construed to exempt preachers of treasonous or seditious discourses, from legal trial and punishment." ___ From the constitution of Georgia adopted on February 5, 1777: "Art. LVI. All persons whatever shall have the free exercise of their religion; provided it be not repugnant to the peace and safety of the State; and shall not, unless by consent, support any teacher or teachers except those of their own profession." "Art. LXII. No clergyman of any denomination shall be allowed a seat in the legislature." ___ From New York constitution adopted on April 20. 1777: XXXIX. And whereas the ministers of the gospel are, by their profession, dedicated to the service of God and the care of souls, and ought not to be diverted from the great duties of their function; therefore, no minister of the gospel, or priest of any denomination whatsoever, shall, at any time hereafter, under any pretence or description whatever, be eligible to, or capable of holding, any civil or military office or place within this State. ___ Those provisions, and their equivalents in the other state constitutions, eventuated in the First Amendment separation of "religion" and gov't.
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  766. He's attacking the jury, and the jury isn't saying anything about him. He's attacking the witnesses, and only Cohen is continuing to be an asshole. He is attacking the judge, and the judge will be determining the sentence. What Trump has always done and been is a cry for help -- bullies pretend to be tough as a defense against abuse, such as that Trump suffered as a child from his extremely abusive fascist father. None of that is an excuse, but it explains his attitude and behavior: he can't understand why he can't just ignore the rules, as his father did. And Mary Trump, a psychologist, doesn't have that depth analysis -- and it isn't all that deep: according to social satirists Art Buchwald and Irma Bombech, the source of all humor is anger (I'm not at all saying that Trump is doing "humor"). And early in his career, Mark Twain wrote that the source of all humor is anger -- but late in his career he wrote that the source of all humor is pain. And psychiatrists say that behind anger is pain. I would say that behind anger is not only pain -- and the experience of it -- but the fear of pain. Anger is a response to threatened pain (and a defense against feeling the internalized pain); it is a way to push away the threat, or attempt to overwhelm and subdue it. None of that is, of course, a defense of Trump. But understanding what drives him is the best means to work out strategies to neutralize him. The courts are the ultimate, the last resort, and a blunt instrument -- and in Trump's case earned. But there needs also to be an intelligent disempowering of him -- force against force only perpetuates and potentially escalates the conflict.
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  1036.  @DissectGibberish  I have an education in law and constitutions are my focus. And it reflects on YOU that you make a baldfaced assertion with nothing to back it up. There are right-wingers who insist that the Founders rejected democracy. The fact is that they didn't trust it. During elections John Hancock was a wealthy "populist" who was all about democracy. Between elections he called democracy "mob rule". So the Founders institutionalized democracy within the Constitutional system -- the Constitution being LAW -- as the House of Representatives; see the raw democracy with such as Boebert and "Moscow Marge". They are willing to abuse power by abusing freedom of speech in their attack on democracy, and are able to do so because the raw democracy that is the substance of the House allows it. But it is contained within Constitutional limits, and the Senate tempers it. George Washington characterized the House as the "cup of hot tea" and the Senate as the "saucer" in which one pours the tea to cool it. What the Founders did concerning democracy was to enact LAWS to CHECK its excesses. The Electoral College is one of those checks. AS SAID: the January 6th insurrection was direct democracy; it was also "mob rule" and also insurrection. I have repeatedly, over the years that individuals have been popping off about abolishing the Electoral College asked them what they would put in its place. They never respond because they have no idea what they are talking about. Now if you have something to BACK UP your uninformed comment, present it. Otherwise, explain to us what you'd replace the Electoral College with in order to prevent direct democracy by a large minority of morons from entirely destroying the rule of law. Or are you one of the fools who actually trusts Trump and his insurrectionists know anything whatsoever about "No one is above the law"? And that law regulates and LIMITS actions that threat public health and safety -- and the rule of law?
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  1039.  @AwkwardPain  What RESEARCH have you done on WHY the Founders established the Electoral College, AND their reasoning? You've done NONE. You don't know, You're just another law-illiterate who jumped on the "easy solution" bandwagon. Adult legal reality, in dealing with actual reality is complex. See the Founder's response to "Shays's" and "Whiskey" insurrections -- those were PROHIBITED "direct democracy". "What you are asking for is a giant report. Something that you don't write in a youtube comment section." I frequently post lengthy substantive comments that not only state a premise but also present the law addressing the premise -- so your cop-out -- your inability -- to present any sort of factual "argument" for your position is exactly my point: you don't know why there is an Electoral College; and you have no idea the consequences of abolishing it. "There have been papers written about this, and the USA is the ONLY democracy to use one." Really? Then why do you not cite to any? Why do YOU not take the responsibility to back up YOUR afactual comment with SUBSTANCE? "So unless you feel every other country is lacking democracy, you should start there and see what you find." I said nothing of the find. But you are apparently unaware that not all democracies are the same. A readily-observable difference is the reality in the Scandinavian countries: monarchy -- which the US does not have, democratically-elected parliament, and socialist economies -- which the US does not have. And yet none of them is a tyranny; and they don't have the lunatic beliefs that "freedom" means "freedom from rule of law," an overwhelming amount of guns, and the false belief that there is a "right of the people" to destroy the Constitution -- the rule of law. In short: not all democracies are the same. I have an education in law, and constitutions -- including world (see above re. Scandinavian countries for an example) -- have been my focus for more than 30 years. Now, either put up your understanding, based on actually doing the research, of WHY the Founders established the Electoral College -- not, it was not "racism" -- as part of the hierarchy of law with a single supreme Federal gov't -- UNION of the disparate now-50 states; and why the Electoral College can be dispensed with without consequences, without repercussions. Either that, or sit down and STFU with your law-illiterate PROPAGANDA against that about which you have no interest in informing yourself. We are in an era where there are broad ongoing dangerous attacks on checks and balances -- see January 6th as a vivid example; listen to Trump's intents -- and you want to eliminate a central CHECK AGAINST those attacks. Stupidity is your profession. We don't give ground to criminality. Yes: youtube is also a place where substantive comments can be posted. But those who know nothing are limited to agglutinations of one-liners, none of which have any basis in reason or established legal history and law.
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  1113.  @thomasbraeking6225  You don't understand either document because you've never read them. Neither document was law when written, and have never been law. And their purposes are not understood by those who haven't bothered to READ them: The "Emancipation Proclamation" applied ONLY to the states that refused to law down their arms. The LATER Civil War Amendments are not the "Proclamation". The "Declaration of Independence" applied EXCLSIVELY to ENGLAND -- its authors were not declaring independence from themselves, or their gov'ts -- the colonists all along controlled the colonial gov'ts. And they were not calling for or asserting a "right" to revolution". Instead, contrary to the false assumptions about it, it is an assertion of the RULE OF LAW as being paramount. Examples from the "GREIVANCES" at its end, against by name King George III, are these: "He has kept among us, in Times of Peace, Standing Armies, without the consent of our Legislatures." Legislatures MAKE LAWS; LAWS REGULATE. "He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power." The entire legal tradition that eventuated in the Constitution and "Bill of Rights" PROHIBITED, as does the Constitution, any form of "independent" or "private" military force, because such are a threat to GOV'T, which gov't is by definition RULE OF LAW. AGAIN: neither the "Emancipation Proclamation" nor the "Declaration of Independence" have ever been LAW. LAWS are made by LEGISLATURES, with the concurrence of the Executive.
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  1128. The majoirty of Virginia citizens voted for increased gun contriol. Only liars deny that the public brandishing of ASSAULT weapons is intended as a threat to PUBLIC SAFETY. The "Shayss" and "Whiskey" rebels were convicted and sentenced to DEATH by the Founders for doing as Trump encourages. The FOUNDERS engaged in EVERY form of gun control INCLUDING confiscation. This is from VIRGINIA: ____________ Virginia Statute, October 21st, 1782 Chap. XII. An act for the recovery of arms and accoutrements belonging to the state. Whereas sundry arms and accoutrements belonging to the public are in the hands of individuals, who have neglected to return them to the proper officers; and it is necessary that such arms and accoutrements should be recovered as speedily as possible: _Be it enacted_, that the Governor do, on the passing of this act, issue his proclamation, enjoining all persons having in their possession any arms or accoutrments whatsoever, belonging to the state, to deliver them without delay to the Lieutenant or commanding officer of the county for the time being; and the sheriff of each county within this commonwealth, shall cause copies of the said proclamation, which shall be transmitted to him by the Executive, to be fixed up in the most public places in his county, and if after one month from such public notice having been given, any person possessing any such public arms or accoutrements, shall be convicted of having failed to deliver them up as aforesaid, such person shall, upon every such conviction, be liable to the penalty of twenty pounds, to be recovered by action of debt, bill, plaint, or information, in any court of record within this commonwealth, one half of which penalty shall go to the informer, on conviction of the offender, and the other half shall be applied in aid of the county levy where such offender shall reside. And the Lieutenant, or commanding officer of each county, shall make returns from time to time, to the Executive, of all arms and accoutrements so delivered to him, and also deliver them to the order of the Executive, under the penalty, if he fail in all or any part of his duty, of fifty pounds, to be recovered as aforesaid, and applied in diminution of the county levy. _Provided always_, that where muskets and bayonets have been by order of government placed in any county on eastern or western frontier for defence against incursions of the enemy, it shall be lawful for the Lieutenant or commanding officer to return such muskets and bayonets to the militia, taking a receipt from each person for what shall be so returned. First Laws of the State of Virginia, The (Wilmington, DE: Michael Glazer, Inc., 1982), Compiled by John D. Cushing, at 176.
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  1174. The NRA's Two Second Amendment Lies The gun industry political front NRA tells two lies about the intent of the Second Amendment. 1. That the purpose of the Amendment was to establish a "right" to "take up arms" against the gov't -- which is refuted by the Constitution itself: Art. I., S. 8., C. 15. The Congress shall have Power To provide for calling forth the Militia to . . . SUPPRESS INSURRECTIONS. The Founders themselves twice established the precedent on the point: Under the Articles of Confederation, "Shays's" rebellion was suppressed by the state's Militia, and the rebels charged with, tried for, and convicted of, TREASON, and sentenced to death. And under the Constitution, AFTER the Second Amendment was ratified, the "Whiskey" rebellion was suppressed by Federalized Militia, lead by George Washington, and the rebels charged with, tried for, and convicted of, TREASON, and sentenced to death. 2. That the Second Amendment protects an "individual" "right" to possess guns. Comparison with the several prior Supreme Court decisions, and the legislative history -- the Congress' Debates of the writing of the Amendment, which are LEGAL AUTHORITY -- shows that Scalia's "Heller" decision is an outlier. In "Heller" he falsely held that the Amendment protects an individual right -- for which he was excoriated by legal experts across the political spectrum for ignoring this adjudicatory standard: When a conflict over the interpretation of a law cannot be resolved within the text of the law, one reverts to the legislative history of the law -- in this instance Congress' Debates of the writing of the Amendment. The facts from those Debates: The subject of the Amendment is well regulated Militia, and its purpose to establish a National Defense, relying on that Militia. The Militia is not an individual, and is a public institution, regulated under both Federal and state constitutions and laws; thus the Amendment is irrelevant to the issue of private, individual gun ownership: James Madison is called "the father of the Constitution," and the gun industry/NRA claims that Madison wrote the Second Amendment. If both of those are facts, then the word "people" is consistent in meaning from beginning of the Constitution to the end of the first 10 Amendments. The first three words of the Constitution are "We the people," not, "We the individual". This is the first draft of that which became the Second Amendment, which the gun industry/NRA calls the "Madison" Amendment -- but which it never quotes. [Here I clarify it for the logic-impaired]: "The right of the people [PLURAL] to keep and bear arms [this phrase is the well-regulated Militia, and was drawn from four state constitution Militia Clauses] shall not be infringed; a well armed, and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person [INDIVIDUAL] religiously scrupulous of [AGAINST] bearing arms [in well-regulated Militia] shall be compelled [INVOLUNTARY] to render military service [in well-regulated Militia] in person." Source: Creating the Bill of Rights: The Documentary Record from the First Federal Congress (Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, Paperback, 1991), Edited by Helen E Veit, et al., at 12. (This volume is readily available from Amazon.) Note the word "compelled": Militia service was a DUTY -- not a "right". And note the words "people" and "person": if a person -- individual -- claimed "religious" exemption from that DUTY, his case was scrutinized individually. The only "individual" "right" Congress debated was that last clause -- "but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service" -- and it was obviously dropped from the proposed Amendment before it was ratified. Thus the Second Amendment obviously does not protect "individual" ANYTHING. Only by ignoring the legislative history -- Congress' Debates of the writing of the Amendment, which are LEGAL AUTHORITY -- could Scalia falsely hold that the Amendment protects an "individual" "right". The Congress, as a co-equal branch of gov't, has the authority and power to overturn Supreme Court decisions. Overturn "Heller". PLEASE CIRCULATE INTACT.
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  1175. The Founders and Gun Control -- ___ Refuting the NRA's Two Second Amendment Lies The gun industry political front NRA tells two lies about the intent of the Second Amendment. 1. That the Second Amendment protects an "individual" "right" to possess guns. Comparison with the several prior Supreme Court decisions, and the legislative history -- the Congress' Debates of the writing of the Amendment, which are LEGAL AUTHORITY -- shows that Scalia's Heller decision is an outlier. In Heller he falsely held that the Amendment protects an individual right -- for which he was excoriated by legal experts across the political spectrum for ignoring this adjudicatory standard: When a conflict over the interpretation of a law cannot be resolved within the text of the law, one reverts to the legislative history of the law -- in this instance Congress's Debates of the writing of the Amendment. The facts from those Debates: The purpose of the Amendment was to establish a National Defense, relying on the well-regulated Militia. That fact is underscored by the Militia Act enacted on May 8, 1792: "An act more effectually to provide for the NATIONAL DEFENCE by establishing an uniform MILITIA throughout the United States." The Militia is not an individual; it is a public institution, an arm OF gov't, regulated under both Federal and state constitutions and laws. The Amendment is irrelevant to the issue of private, individual gun ownership: James Madison is called "the father of the Constitution," and the gun industry/NRA claims that Madison wrote the Second Amendment. If both of those are facts, then the word "people" is consistent in meaning from the beginning of the Constitution to the end of the first 10 Amendments. The first three words of the Constitution are "We the people," not, "We the individual". This is the first draft of that which became the Second Amendment, which the gun industry/NRA calls the "Madison" Amendment -- but which it never quotes. [Here I clarify it for the logic-impaired]: "The right of the people [PLURAL] to keep and bear arms [this phrase is the well-regulated Militia, and was drawn from four state constitution Militia Clauses] shall not be infringed; a well armed, and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person [INDIVIDUAL] religiously scrupulous of [AGAINST] bearing arms [in well-regulated Militia] shall be compelled [INVOLUNTARY] to render military service [in well-regulated Militia] in person." Source: Creating the Bill of Rights: The Documentary Record from the First Federal Congress (Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, Paperback, 1991), Edited by Helen E Veit, et al., at 12. (This volume is readily available from Amazon.) Note the word "compelled": Militia service was a DUTY -- not a "right". And note the words "people" and "person": if a person -- individual -- claimed "religious" exemption from that DUTY, his case was scrutinized individually. The only "individual" "right" debated was that last clause -- "but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service" -- and it was obviously voted down before the proposed Amendment was ratified. Thus the Second Amendment obviously does not protect "individual" ANYTHING. Only by ignoring the legislative history -- Congress's Debates of the writing of the Amendment, which are LEGAL AUTHORITY -- could Scalia falsely hold that the Amendment protects an "individual" "right". 2. That the purpose of the Amendment was to establish a "right" to "take up arms" against the gov't -- which is refuted by the Constitution itself: "Art. I., S. 8., C. 15. The Congress shall have Power To provide for calling forth the Militia to . . . SUPPRESS INSURRECTIONS". The Founders themselves twice established the precedent on the point: Under the Articles of Confederation, "Shays's" insurrection was suppressed by the state's well-regulated Militia, and the insurrectionists charged with, tried for, and convicted of, TREASON, and sentenced to death. Under the Constitution, more than two years AFTER the Second Amendment was ratified, the "Whiskey" insurrection was suppressed by Federalized Militia, lead by George Washington, and the insurrectionists charged with, tried for, and convicted of, TREASON, and sentenced to death. The Congress, as a co-equal branch of gov't, has the authority and power to overturn Supreme Court decisions. Overturn Heller and its progeny. PLEASE CIRCULATE INTACT.
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  1230.  @joehalliday6081  I was graduated from high school in the 1967. Not everyone was drafted -- including at least some of those who called me "Communist" and "draft-dodger" for speaking out against US involvement in Vietnam. (It is interesting that my grandparent's generation mostly agreed with my generation on that involvement, but my parent's generation mostly did not. My grandparent's generation were veterans of WW I. My parent's generation were young adults during WW II.) The reason I recommend reading Mark Twain's "Following the Equator" is because he was an anti-imperialist (and a vice-president of the "Anti-Imperialist League"). In fact, he was a lifelong Republican -- until 70, when he publicly resigned from the party over the "Spanish-American War" and its conduct of that war. In that he wrote of his world tour, including stops in such as South Africa and Australia (Europe and British Empire). The 1990s Oxford Edition includes photographs of atrocities. Which war, again, was initiated by a REPUBLICAN president, egged on by the Yellow Journalism of William Randolph Hearst. That war included the United States Marines hunting down Aguinaldo, the Philippine hero who lead the fight against Spain, and killed him. Or see if you can find copy of the book of essays "Mark Twain On the Damned Human Race". I read that in September of my Junior year in high school. No, it was not assigned reading. It was from reading Twain that I understood the underlying "purpose" of US involvement in Vietnam: NATURAL RESOURCES. Ho Chih Minh was not a problem; he was a nationalist attempting to unite a country that was divided by civil war -- that being interfered with by US involvement. Sure, a prominent "defense" of that involvement was that a people "Have a right to determine their own future/gov't." In reality that choice had to be approved by the United States, which had no business making such a decision for another sovereign nation.
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  1255.  @glock22357  Then you should be able to refute my alleged "diatribe" with evidence. But you don't because you can't. And you can't because you're of the cult that rejects FACTS and EVIDENCE. There are two forms of lying: commission is telling known falsehoods. Omission is withholding known truths. So you engage in the usal Republican tradition of the Politics of Smear. But tell us how "Liberal" Clint Eastwood is. Or how "Liberal" draft-dodger John Wayne was. Or how "Liberal" Reagan was when it came to union -- organized labor -- busting, which destruction favors organized wealth. As for your troller's fake screen name: ___ Refuting the NRA's Two Second Amendment Lies The gun industry political front NRA tells two lies about the intent of the Second Amendment. 1. That the Second Amendment protects an "individual" "right" to possess guns. Comparison with the several prior Supreme Court decisions, and the legislative history -- the Congress' Debates of the writing of the Amendment, which are LEGAL AUTHORITY -- shows that Scalia's Heller decision is an outlier. In Heller he falsely held that the Amendment protects an individual right -- for which he was excoriated by legal experts across the political spectrum for ignoring this adjudicatory standard: When a conflict over the interpretation of a law cannot be resolved within the text of the law, one reverts to the legislative history of the law -- in this instance Congress's Debates of the writing of the Amendment. The facts from those Debates: The purpose of the Amendment was to establish a National Defense, relying on the well-regulated Militia. That fact is underscored by the Militia Act enacted on May 8, 1792: "An act more effectually to provide for the NATIONAL DEFENCE by establishing an uniform MILITIA throughout the United States." The Militia is not an individual; it is a public institution, an arm OF gov't, regulated under both Federal and state constitutions and laws. The Amendment is irrelevant to the issue of private, individual gun ownership: James Madison is called "the father of the Constitution," and the gun industry/NRA claims that Madison wrote the Second Amendment. If both of those are facts, then the word "people" is consistent in meaning from the beginning of the Constitution to the end of the first 10 Amendments. The first three words of the Constitution are "We the people," not, "We the individual". This is the first draft of that which became the Second Amendment, which the gun industry/NRA calls the "Madison" Amendment -- but which it never quotes. [Here I clarify it for the logic-impaired]: "The right of the people [PLURAL] to keep and bear arms [this phrase is the well-regulated Militia, and was drawn from four state constitution Militia Clauses] shall not be infringed; a well armed, and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person [INDIVIDUAL] religiously scrupulous of [AGAINST] bearing arms [in well-regulated Militia] shall be compelled [INVOLUNTARY] to render military service [in well-regulated Militia] in person." Source: Creating the Bill of Rights: The Documentary Record from the First Federal Congress (Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, Paperback, 1991), Edited by Helen E Veit, et al., at 12. (This volume is readily available from Amazon.) Note the word "compelled": Militia service was a DUTY -- not a "right". And note the words "people" and "person": if a person -- individual -- claimed "religious" exemption from that DUTY, his case was scrutinized individually. The only "individual" "right" debated was that last clause -- "but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service" -- and it was obviously voted down before the proposed Amendment was ratified. Thus the Second Amendment obviously does not protect "individual" ANYTHING. Only by ignoring the legislative history -- Congress's Debates of the writing of the Amendment, which are LEGAL AUTHORITY -- could Scalia falsely hold that the Amendment protects an "individual" "right". 2. That the purpose of the Amendment was to establish a "right" to "take up arms" against the gov't -- which is refuted by the Constitution itself: "Art. I., S. 8., C. 15. The Congress shall have Power To provide for calling forth the Militia to . . . SUPPRESS INSURRECTIONS". The Founders themselves twice established the precedent on the point: Under the Articles of Confederation, "Shays's" insurrection was suppressed by the state's well-regulated Militia, and the insurrectionists charged with, tried for, and convicted of, TREASON, and sentenced to death. Under the Constitution, more than two years AFTER the Second Amendment was ratified, the "Whiskey" insurrection was suppressed by Federalized Militia, lead by George Washington, and the insurrectionists charged with, tried for, and convicted of, TREASON, and sentenced to death. The Congress, as a co-equal branch of gov't, has the authority and power to overturn Supreme Court decisions. Overturn Heller and its progeny. PLEASE CIRCULATE INTACT.
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  1305.  @Eric-vr8mc  The first thing you do is engage in personal attacks against the messenger in effort to discredit the FACTS he states. That is bias against the facts, and an effort to distract from them. Facts are facts: "stubborn things," as said John Adams. There aren't alternatives to them. You are, therefore, overtly biased against the person stating the facts, and using that deceit to object to the facts. Name one fact? Watch the video again, but this time stop the lying. Let's be clear, overtly dishonest punk: you are attacking truth based on the lie that you are concerned with morality. You are a liar. Lying is immoral. You are going to be shocked to the core when you discover how tariffs actually work, and that those destructive impacts will fall also on YOU. This is characteristic of your confident ignorance: 1. Trumpers voted for Trump. 2. The day AFTER the election this Trumper question spiked on "Google": -- "How do tariffs work?" Should that question have been asked BEFORE you voted for tariffs? And here's another: Trumpers voted for Trump because they wanted "Obamacare" repealed, but they at the same time loved the "Affordable Care Acct". AFTER the election they learned that both are the same thing -- but instead of waking up to the fact that they fucked up, they asked, "Why does it have two different names?" Where were they when the Republicans smeared that "Affordable Care Act" as being "Obamacare"? Where were they when the Republicans and Trump repeatedly attempted to repeal it, when it was repeatedly reported that "Obamacare" was the "Affordable Care act"? Stupidity is your program and profession. And it begins with the irresponsible fantasy that you and your ilk will escape the consequences of your views and beliefs. Trump himself told you to your face when he said to his supporters -- "I don't care about you, I just want your vote." Latins are discovering that: he told them to their faces that he would deport them. They avoided the issue by falsely believing, He doesn't mean ME." But Trump's "Border Czar" Homan is absolutely clear -- that they'll deport "the bad guys" FIRST. And as legal and illegal are irrelevant to them -- it is all about skin color -- their assertion of "illegal" and "bad guy" have no legal or factual basis. When asked how they would avoid "splitting families" -- many Latino, and other, families, have both legal and "illegal" members -- he said it is easy: by deporting the ENTIRE family, both legal and "illegal". That's the anti-Americanism you are defending, which puts you on the wrong side of both history and the Constitution. You voted for and are defending and adjudicated rapist -- because you support rape -- and a convicted criminal -- a felon. Because you support the commission of crime against others. And you want us to pretend that you are "moral" and "in the right" simply because you love your baseless and immoral hatred. In sum: you fool no one, lying bullshitter.
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  1324. There is also a national urging to prohibit guns at polling places. My state already did that. There is already precedent -- ____ Delaware Constitution, begun August 27, 1776; adopted September 21, 1776. Art. 28. To prevent any violence or force being used at the said elections, no persons shall come armed to any of them, and no muster of the militia shall be made on that day; nor shall any battalion or company give in their votes immediately succeeding each other, if any other voter, who offers to vote, objects thereto; nor shall any battalion or company, in the pay of the continent, or of this or any other State, be suffered to remain at the time and place of holding the said elections, nor within one mile of the said places respectively, for twenty-four hours before the opening said elections, nor within twenty-four hours after the same are closed, so as in any manner to impede the freely and conveniently carrying on the said election: _Provided always_, That every elector may, in a peaceable and orderly manner, give in his vote on the said day of election. ___ Georgia Constitution, begun October 1, 1776; finished February 5, 1777. Art. X. No officer whatever shall serve any process, or give any other hinderance to any person entitled to vote, either in going to the place of election, or during the time of the said election, or on their returning home from such election; nor shall any military office, or soldier, appear at any election in a military character, to the intent that all elections may be free or open.
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  1420.  @bjdefilippo447  Our gov't consists of three co-EQUAL branches of gov't. The intent is that any two will prevent any one gaining supremacy over the other two. They are the first checks and balances. The Congress has the authority and power to overturn Supreme Court decisions. The most recent and visible instance was Congress overturning the Rehnquist Court's Grove College and its progeny. Grove College was a disability discrimination case. A blind woman applied to Grove College to become a nurse. She was refused because blind. Rehnquist deliberately misread the text of the statute -- "Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973" -- in order to hold that it only applied to the financial aid office. That only the financial aid office couldn't discriminate against applicants; that the rest of the college could. The actual explicit text of the law encompassed the entire college. That line of cases was overturned by Congress with the "Americans with Disability Act" -- which was presented publicly by an exceedingly rare joint House and Senate press conference. (Irony: at the same time Robert Bork -- the one who followed Nixon's order to fire the Special Prosecutor -- the "Saturday Night Massacre" of "Watergate"; and who, as a Reagan-appointed judge, out of thin air overturned the Fairness Doctrine, which had been established with the advent of radio -- was bumming a book. His big issue was that the Constitution should be amended to allow the Congress to overturn Supreme Court decisions -- a power that has all along existed. His target, of course, was _Roe._) Why the Congress didn't, when the Democrats had control, didn't overturn Citizens United, is beyond me.
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  1437. The NRA's Two Second Amendment Lies The gun industry political front NRA tells two lies about the intent of the Second Amendment. 1. That the Second Amendment protects an "individual" "right" to possess guns. Comparison with the several prior Supreme Court decisions, and the legislative history -- the Congress' Debates of the writing of the Amendment, which are LEGAL AUTHORITY -- shows that Scalia's "Heller" decision is an outlier. In "Heller" he falsely held that the Amendment protects an individual right -- for which he was excoriated by legal experts across the political spectrum for ignoring this adjudicatory standard: When a conflict over the interpretation of a law cannot be resolved within the text of the law, one reverts to the legislative history of the law -- in this instance Congress' Debates of the writing of the Amendment. The facts from those Debates: The subject of the Amendment is well regulated Militia, and its purpose to establish a National Defense, relying on that Militia. The Militia is not an individual, and is a public institution, regulated under both Federal and state constitutions and laws; thus the Amendment is irrelevant to the issue of private, individual gun ownership: James Madison is called "the father of the Constitution," and the gun industry/NRA claims that Madison wrote the Second Amendment. If both of those are facts, then the word "people" is consistent in meaning from beginning of the Constitution to the end of the first 10 Amendments. The first three words of the Constitution are "We the people," not, "We the individual". This is the first draft of that which became the Second Amendment, which the gun industry/NRA calls the "Madison" Amendment -- but which it never quotes. [Here I clarify it for the logic-impaired]: "The right of the people [PLURAL] to keep and bear arms [this phrase is the well-regulated Militia, and was drawn from four state constitution Militia Clauses] shall not be infringed; a well armed, and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person [INDIVIDUAL] religiously scrupulous of [AGAINST] bearing arms [in well-regulated Militia] shall be compelled [INVOLUNTARY] to render military service [in well-regulated Militia] in person." Source: Creating the Bill of Rights: The Documentary Record from the First Federal Congress (Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, Paperback, 1991), Edited by Helen E Veit, et al., at 12. (This volume is readily available from Amazon.) Note the word "compelled": Militia service was a DUTY -- not a "right". And note the words "people" and "person": if a person -- individual -- claimed "religious" exemption from that DUTY, his case was scrutinized individually. The only "individual" "right" Congress debated was that last clause -- "but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service" -- and it was obviously dropped from the proposed Amendment before it was ratified. Thus the Second Amendment obviously does not protect "individual" ANYTHING. Only by ignoring the legislative history -- Congress' Debates of the writing of the Amendment, which are LEGAL AUTHORITY -- could Scalia falsely hold that the Amendment protects an "individual" "right". 2. That the purpose of the Amendment was to establish a "right" to "take up arms" against the gov't -- which is refuted by the Constitution itself: Art. I., S. 8., C. 15. The Congress shall have Power To provide for calling forth the Militia to . . . SUPPRESS INSURRECTIONS. The Founders themselves twice established the precedent on the point: Under the Articles of Confederation, "Shays's" rebellion was suppressed by the state's legitimate well-regulated Militia, and the rebels charged with, tried for, and convicted of, TREASON, and sentenced to death. And under the Constitution, AFTER the Second Amendment was ratified, the "Whiskey" rebellion was suppressed by Federalized Militia, lead by George Washington, and the rebels charged with, tried for, and convicted of, TREASON, and sentenced to death. The Congress, as a co-equal branch of gov't, has the authority and power to overturn Supreme Court decisions. Overturn "Heller". PLEASE CIRCULATE INTACT.
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  1462.  @cathywethington5913  You really miss the point -- perhaps deliberately. Republicans are currently on a rampage accusing others of pedophilia -- without a shred of EVIDENCE for it. Then we learn about the long list of PROVEN pedophiles who are REPUBLICANS. Republicans, including Mark Meadows, have been pushing Trump's big lie about election fraud for more than a year. And now we learn that Mark Meadows engaged in voter fraud. Other WHITE MALE REPUBLICANS who knowingly committed voter fraud got at worst probation, but a Black woman who submitted a provisional ballot, which WAS NOT COUNTED, after her probation department informed her, in writing, that she could vote, was sentenced to FIVE YEARS IN JAIL. Republicans have for many decades been bellicose in their pro-military stance. But then when one compares Congressmen as to who actually SERVED in the military, the majority of DEMOCRATS did, and next to zero Republicans did so. Certainly you don't actually miss the point I am making: Republicans have a long, long, long history of accusing others of the very things Republicans are doing. Currently they are accusing all sorts of other people -- not, of course, Republicans -- of being pedophiles. That's why I dispense with the complicated psychological phenomenon of "projection," which is usually not conscious, and cut to the chase of calling it "confession": When a Republican accuses others of something heinous, WITHOUT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE, I focus on why they -- out of nowhere -- have such heinous things on THEIR minds. That's why I wonder how many pedophiles are hiding behind the Republican OBSESSION with pedophilia. Yeah, I know: they present that OBSESSION as being "OPPOSITION" to pedophilia. But we also have them vocally "opposing" "voter fraud" while at the same time COMMITTING voter fraud.
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  1474.  @anthonygranziol7957  It is aimed at the Court overturning the 1960s Court decision prohibiting prayer in public schools, which had been the norm. The problem is that the prayers were "Christian," but not all students are "Christian". Add in that that prayer is not a substitute for education; the purpose of schools is education, and that includes the Constitution, which in the First Amendment is SEPARATION of "religion" and gov't. Public schools are funded by the taxpayers, through the gov't. The more fundamental prohibition is against taxpayers funding someone else's "religion". It is not a new idea -- these were established by the Founders during the "revolutionary " era: ___ From the North Carolina constitution adopted on December 18, 1776: "XXXI. That no clergyman, or preacher of the gospel, of any denomination, shall be capable of being a member of either the Senate, House of Commons, or Council of State, while he continues in the exercise of the pastoral function. . . . . "XXXIV. That there shall be no establishment of any one religious church or denomination in this State, in preference to any other; neither shall any person, on any pretence whatsoever, be compelled to attend any place of worship contrary to his own faith or judgment, nor be obliged to pay, for the purchase of any glebe, or the building of any house of worship, or for the maintenance of any minister or ministry, contrary to what he believes right, or has voluntarily and personally engaged to perform; but all persons shall be at liberty to exercise their own mode of worship:--_Provided_, That nothing herein contained shall be construed to exempt preachers of treasonous or seditious discourses, from legal trial and punishment." ___ From the constitution of Georgia adopted on February 5, 1777: "Art. LVI. All persons whatever shall have the free exercise of their religion; provided it be not repugnant to the peace and safety of the State; and shall not, unless by consent, support any teacher or teachers except those of their own profession." "Art. LXII. No clergyman of any denomination shall be allowed a seat in the legislature." ___ From New York constitution adopted on April 20. 1777: XXXIX. And whereas the ministers of the gospel are, by their profession, dedicated to the service of God and the care of souls, and ought not to be diverted from the great duties of their function; therefore, no minister of the gospel, or priest of any denomination whatsoever, shall, at any time hereafter, under any pretence or description whatever, be eligible to, or capable of holding, any civil or military office or place within this State. ___ Those provisions, and their equivalents in the other state constitutions, eventuated in the First Amendment separation of "religion" and gov't.
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  1539. The NRA's Two Second Amendment Lies The gun industry political front NRA tells two lies about the intent of the Second Amendment. 1. That the Second Amendment protects an "individual" "right" to possess guns. Comparison with the several prior Supreme Court decisions, and the legislative history -- the Congress' Debates of the writing of the Amendment, which are LEGAL AUTHORITY -- shows that Scalia's "Heller" decision is an outlier. In "Heller" he falsely held that the Amendment protects an individual right -- for which he was excoriated by legal experts across the political spectrum for ignoring this adjudicatory standard: When a conflict over the interpretation of a law cannot be resolved within the text of the law, one reverts to the legislative history of the law -- in this instance Congress' Debates of the writing of the Amendment. The facts from those Debates: The subject of the Amendment is well regulated Militia, and its purpose to establish a National Defense, relying on that Militia. The Militia is not an individual, and is a public institution, regulated under both Federal and state constitutions and laws; thus the Amendment is irrelevant to the issue of private, individual gun ownership: James Madison is called "the father of the Constitution," and the gun industry/NRA claims that Madison wrote the Second Amendment. If both of those are facts, then the word "people" is consistent in meaning from beginning of the Constitution to the end of the first 10 Amendments. The first three words of the Constitution are "We the people," not, "We the individual". This is the first draft of that which became the Second Amendment, which the gun industry/NRA calls the "Madison" Amendment -- but which it never quotes. [Here I clarify it for the logic-impaired]: "The right of the people [PLURAL] to keep and bear arms [this phrase is the well-regulated Militia, and was drawn from four state constitution Militia Clauses] shall not be infringed; a well armed, and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person [INDIVIDUAL] religiously scrupulous of [AGAINST] bearing arms [in well-regulated Militia] shall be compelled [INVOLUNTARY] to render military service [in well-regulated Militia] in person." Source: Creating the Bill of Rights: The Documentary Record from the First Federal Congress (Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, Paperback, 1991), Edited by Helen E Veit, et al., at 12. (This volume is readily available from Amazon.) Note the word "compelled": Militia service was a DUTY -- not a "right". And note the words "people" and "person": if a person -- individual -- claimed "religious" exemption from that DUTY, his case was scrutinized individually. The only "individual" "right" Congress debated was that last clause -- "but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service" -- and it was obviously dropped from the proposed Amendment before it was ratified. Thus the Second Amendment obviously does not protect "individual" ANYTHING. Only by ignoring the legislative history -- Congress' Debates of the writing of the Amendment, which are LEGAL AUTHORITY -- could Scalia falsely hold that the Amendment protects an "individual" "right". 2. That the purpose of the Amendment was to establish a "right" to "take up arms" against the gov't -- which is refuted by the Constitution itself: Art. I., S. 8., C. 15. The Congress shall have Power To provide for calling forth the Militia to . . . SUPPRESS INSURRECTIONS. The Founders themselves twice established the precedent on the point: Under the Articles of Confederation, "Shays's" rebellion was suppressed by the state's legitimate well-regulated Militia, and the rebels charged with, tried for, and convicted of, TREASON, and sentenced to death. And under the Constitution, AFTER the Second Amendment was ratified, the "Whiskey" rebellion was suppressed by Federalized Militia, lead by George Washington, and the rebels charged with, tried for, and convicted of, TREASON, and sentenced to death. The Congress, as a co-equal branch of gov't, has the authority and power to overturn Supreme Court decisions. Overturn "Heller". PLEASE CIRCULATE INTACT.
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  1597.  @savagetwinky2606  None of that makes sense in view of the actual facts. Trump did not ask Ukraine about the DOJ. He asked Ukraine to ANNOUNCE an "investigation" -- no ACTUAL "investigation" required -- so he could use that LIE to SMEAR Biden. And in effort to FORCE Ukraine to do so he threatened to withhold CONGRESSIONALLY-AUTHORIZED military aid to Ukraine. That is the CRIME of EXTORTION/BLACKMAIL. It is ALSO a violation of the CONSTITUTION: CONGRESS makes the law; the President is to FAITHFULLY ENFORCE the law AS WRITTEN. when Congress authorizes monies to be spent by the Executive branch -- the president -- it designates HOW it will be spent by means of WRITTEN LAW. The president DOES NOT have the authority to change the terms of the authorization -- the LAW -- or to reallocate the use of the monies for other purposes or his own personal political benefit -- but that is what Trump was doing vis-a-vis Ukraine. His lacky Clarke at the DOJ did exactly the same, as ordered by Trump, re. the Georgia election: to ANNOUNCE an "investigation" -- which the Republicans in Congress would then run with, even though Congress has NO JURISDICTION over or in STATE election processes. Turley has been a REPUBLICAN in his positions since the 2000 election theft -- which is what YOU want, but which is NOT the practice of LAW. In a word Turley is a FRAUD. There are NO FACTS to ANY of what the Republican freak show is doing. It is all and only about SMEARING BIDEN, which is a repeat of what they did to Hillary -- and fools like you fall for it because you don't understand that FACTS MATTER. "Justice and the Rule of Law are to be ABOVE politics." -- John Adams.
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  1623.  @BluehourPhotography  We have Trump om video stating that he wants to be a dictator, and answering a question about that statement, "Just on day 1." And we have this on video: ___ "No Collusion"? Trump's July 27, 2016 Solicitation of Crime with Russia. This is Webster's definition of "collusion": "Secret agreement or cooperation for a fraudulent or deceitful purpose". How many Trump campaign members lied about their contacts with Russians during the Trump-Putin COLLUSION? THIS IS THE LAW: The Model Penal Code defines solicitation as commanding, encouraging, or requesting another person to engage in conduct that constitutes a crime or an attempt to commit a crime (with the intent that the crime be committed). Model Penal Code S. 5.02(1) (1962). Generally the code provides that solicitation be as punishable as the crime solicited. Id. at S. 5.05(1). Law Dictionary, Giffis, at 446. THIS IS THE EVIDENCE: We have Trump on video, in broad daylight, soliciting Russia: "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing." To "find" those emails required computer hacking. Computer hacking is a felony. In fact, he solicited a series of felonies, beginning with computer hacking and stealing private property, through to receiving and possessing that stolen property. And we know that on the same day as Trump's solicitation, within hours thereafter, Russia hacked computers and stole the emails. That made Trump a co-conspirator with Russia. That conspiracy is an additional felony. ____________ PLEASE CIRCULATE INTACT.
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