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Comments by "V. Birchwood" (@VBirchwood) on "I Made an Ancient Greek \"Bra\"" video.
Edit (for safety warning): A commenter rightfully pointed out the potential risks involved with this style of bust wrapping. Please listen to your own body and use caution with bust wrapping. None of this is medical advice and I’m not responsible for any injuries that may occur due to bust wrapping. Another edit (because people are upset about the leaves on the statues): this is due to social media guidelines. Had I not covered them, you likely would not have seen this video. You can see the original versions linked in the description box. I wish things were different, but this is how it goes. I feel like my videos keep getting weirder and weirder 😂 I hope you all enjoyed this fun experiment with trying out an Ancient Greek "bra". Thanks for watching and see you in two weeks for another video! P.S. Julie was not harmed in the making of this video. If you haven't seen the whole video yet, you'll get what I mean in a minute.
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I agree! I find it very upsetting as well, as breasts aren’t necessarily sexual but have been sexualised. I had to cover the statues with leaves in the video to meet social media guidelines 🥲
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Thank you for pointing this aspect out! I’ve added a statement about the potential risks in my pinned comment. I appreciate you looking out for everyone’s wellbeing!
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Thanks for watching ☺️ I would recommend checking out short stays as well from the Regency period if you haven’t learned about them already.
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I have many beautiful friends who love wearing tons of expressive make up and have many tattoos, and I love them tremendously. I choose not to because that’s my choice (and choice is a wonderful thing) but I still think just as highly of those who do, because I will never drag down another person for their appearance (and just because I haven’t chosen the same appearance for myself).
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Yeah, social media appropriate 😂
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If you feel comfortable sharing, please let me know how it is!
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Thanks for sharing your experience!
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Could be! That’s why I express that I’m not sure if they were worn by everyday people, just the wealthy, or only in certain occasions. There are sooooo many gaps in this mystery.
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@serrate-td7tu thanks for sharing!
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Social media guidelines. Welcome to the world of social media.
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That’s amazing, I’m sure it’s beautiful! 🥰
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I have a very very old wardrobe tour during my first year sewing, but I’m planning an updated one at the moment! :)
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No reason? Have you seen how the guidelines are and how many smaller channels get penalised for them? Why would I want to censor historical art out of my own volition? Please have compassion and try to put yourself in the shoes of the other.
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I don't think this is the page for you :)
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It was also a highly patriarchal culture where the beauty standard for women was a flattened chest. Women had so few rights in ancient Greece, so in this instance, the garment may have served for support, but also it being more intentionally restrictive wouldn't surprise me. I love the clothing of the time, but definitely not the treatment of women nor the gender-based hierarchy.
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Thanks so much!
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Perhaps all of the above. We really don't know :)
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Social media guidelines. I explain in the pinned comment.
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You were one of the people that was meant to leave at 5:05.
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Algorithm definitely
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@InertiaCreeps people have had their videos suppressed for this exact type of thing, hence my decision to cover them because the guidelines aren’t fair and generally impact smaller creators disproportionately. A large portion of my income and ability to pay my bills is reliant on my videos, so having a video of mine demonetised would mean I can’t cover my basic expenses for the month. I am completely against the sexualisation of nudity, but also it’s important we don’t blame creators for doing what they have to do in order to keep their bills paid, and instead take a bigger look at the systems. I would greatly recommend reading other creators similar experiences on Reddit, and you’ll see just how many have had a video suppressed due to not covering a body (even in art) in circumstances like this.
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Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoy them ☺️
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YouTube guidelines. Many channels have had their videos censored for showing nude art. My income directly correlates to my videos, and I have to take precautions in order to make sure I can keep food on my table. I hate this type of censorship, but I don’t have a choice. I would recommend reading some Reddit forums about people’s experiences with this exact thing and the types of precautions creators are forced to take.
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Thank you so much! :)
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If I hadn't, you likely would not have seen this video. Welcome to social media unfortunately.
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@albertmagician8613 they are also neccesary due to YouTube guidelines and the algorithm. Had I not placed them, you would likely have not seen this video.
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Do you not want the historical context? It’s kind of important in this case.
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Just released a new video of trying an ancient Greek bra for a week and I did a few experiments with it cut on the bias! :)
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I don't know the gender of those who were wearing the strophion, therefore I reflected this in my speech. It is inaccurate to throw Anglo-Christian constructs of gender identity onto ancient societies that did not approach life this way.
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I think it’s unlikely because garments historically (especially in ancient history) were usually draped directly on a person for construction and not on a form (forms tend to be very inaccurate for actual body measurements and the way the body behaves due to a form’s lack of malleability). Additionally, Ancient Greek clothing is made of long cuts of rectangles and squares, very simple shapes that are cleverly manipulated in order to get the desired drape, so a form wouldn’t be neccesary, and likely would not have even really been available at the time. Dress forms are more of a 20th century thing.
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YouTube of course. Please read the pinned comment.
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Indeed, the algorithm. Please don’t blame creators but instead take a look at the system. I don’t condone the censorship of nudity in ancient art. I’m also only half American and have lived in Europe for 8 years, so please consider what you write before writing it.
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I did originally try wrapping it like an ace bandage on myself, but it felt extremely insecure and not comfortable. Ace bandages are also elasticated typically, so the fabric behaves completely differently than a strip of linen cut on the straight of grain. That's why I ended up twisting and making the wrap a bit more complex until it felt more secure on my body :) I'm sure the booklet is super interesting!
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You can see breasts through the clothes. Social media regulations unfortunately.
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It just often happens to channels, that videos get age restricted when showing nudity even on ancient art. People tend to blame creators but really it’s the system.
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@robertmatel8136 I’m a professional singer so I’ve been diaphragmatic breathing since I was 10 or 11 and started vocal training. I only belly breathe. I also haven’t been wearing corsets regularly for over a year now (I made a video about it a while back). Additionally, you can very easily belly breathe in a corset, I always did when I wore them.
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I very much agree! The realities of history also need to be shown as well so that we do not repeat the atrocities of the past as societies.
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I have mostly antique furniture (that I hunted down and got great deals on over the years). I would say my food is sort of “historical” as I eat all organic (for health and environmental related reasons) and I try to build relationships with the farmers and buy as local as possible. And I write with a fountain pen, sometimes a manual typewriter, but I used to write with a dip pens sometimes (it’s a lot of effort and work!). So I’d say some things in my life are historical other than my clothes, but most things are modern, especially since I work around technology all day ☺️
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I thought the same thing! But then also felt it'd be unlikely since bias cut fabric can waste a lot (unless like you suggested, an entire bolt was cut to be sold).
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Indeed, bias cut fabric could be used for more stretch, but the reality is that fabric used to be woven without machines, and so every piece was precious. Which is why so many ancient Greek garments are zero waste and are just expertly gathered, draped, folded rectangles and squares, so I felt it would be highly unlikely that bias fabric would be used due to the waste it can create for one wrap, unless a very large batch of wraps was being made and cut out of a length of fabric.
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Social media guidelines. Please think about the possibilities before commenting.
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Social media guidelines. Please think about the possibilities before commenting.
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Welcome to the way it is with social media unfortunately.
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