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Cool story bro. Got a source on that?
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What?
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Yeah, german here. We are not. Its a stereotype, the same people that call germans Fashists are eighter uneducated or pro-trump-Jan.-06th.
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Turkmenistan
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But Thats not the definition of socialism.
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@Historia_Magistra_Vitae_ thats a realy narrow definition. I think (would need to look up some data in order to back this up) that by this very definition fashism would not include the 3rd reich. But then i could be wrong here, but i know for a fact that hitler is and was no socialist.
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@Historia_Magistra_Vitae_ socialism and national socialism are 2 different kinds of shoes there buddy. The branding of socialist was more as a advertisement to my knowledge. It was a very desired brand and still the economie did not speak for a socialist gouvernment. A socialist would implement more unitys. Hitler also privaticed more cooperations that where in state owned hands, so he did not advocate centralized panning. So how is it a socialist regime if the legislature was not realy socialist? Thats like North korea calling itself a Democracy and you saying it is. You saying the 3rd reich was not a fashist country is realy funny there buddy.
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Nope
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Go vote trump then
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@protonneutron9046 don't see the connection that you assume when you call Hitler a Sozialist but at the same time fascist.
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Thats BS.
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@robertdeffenbaugh9004 hitler was fascist. He adored mussolini and had the iron pakt with italy, he loved the idea of one supreme leader and the ideo of fascism. You can read all about it in "Mein Kampf"
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My man spreads conspiracy theorys from the 1900s.
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Yeah no. No one sayes that that would be stupid.
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Well your right exept for the last part there bud. You know where all those good scientists went after the war, right? One even spearheadet the Moonlanding 😂
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Yeah but Walsh labels himself that so its okay to call him this.
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Fashism is not sozialism and you have not learned from Jan. 6th
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You could see it that way since the conservatives are seething right know 😂
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He was.
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@British-monarchist. he was. Hitler called the party sozialist but it wasn't. Its like north korea calling itself the democratic people's republic of korea.
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@JoeyJoJoJrShabbado nono i want to know how you make the vonnection from left to fescism.
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@JoeyJoJoJrShabbado he made a over 4 Hour long essay ans god knows how much i disagree with it but fashism maybe has its routs in Left wing politics but the idea of one supreme leader (wich is very much part of fascism) is not a left wing ideology. Fascism is just not exclusiv to left or right wing ideas. Hitler was not left wing, stalin had communism in a hard line form but both where extemists. So lets put it like this "all extreme views have the potential to paint into fascism and is not exclusiv to one side of the political spectrum" For reference https://youtu.be/hUFvG4RpwJI Its a good vid in my eyes that sums it up perfectly
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@JoeyJoJoJrShabbado okay, give me one source that prives the point that the NSDAP was a socialist Party that is not a 4 Hour long video essay but a actuall study or source with a direkt of finding it. Becouse National socialism is different then socialism. My grandfather lived trugh the NSDAP and the Nazi time, he knew since he was there and he always told me this one thing that socialism in the NSDAP was more of a batch of honor and a way to get votes instead of actually beeing a socialist ideology driven political party.
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@JoeyJoJoJrShabbado it is very simple to say that the NSDAP was not socialist becouse it wasn't. Socialistic ideology dictates that the means of production was in the hand of the country or the people. Not by corporation or single individuals. Hitler abolished all unions exept for the one the NSDAP had foundet. He has all means of production in privat hands, thats also a fakt. The only thing Hitler could do was to diktate what was produced in sertain situations like war to produce war material. Sozialism is for the deprivatisation of companys and assets. Hitler privaticed all sektors of production into Capitalistic hands. You sayed you require a fair bit of understanding to say that hitler was a socialist. This definition only works id you ignore the means of production. You need a basic understanding of everything you want to speak about but to tell others that you, a guy refeering to a youtube essay where it is namecalling for the first 7 Minutes calling others Marxist and Fascists and based on that to have the full picute is just absurd. Educate yourself and do some critical thinking bevore spewing bs you have no idea about.
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@JoeyJoJoJrShabbado they did not have full controll over the economy, they had the same controll just like todays germany and todays germany is also not a socialist country becouse its a social democratic and Kapitalistic. You see: if there is a war that the US is involved they also can disctate what is produced just like then. The US can also dictate prices on food and other goods, thats just running a country and havin controll over it. Why else would lobbying be so profitable for companys if the gouverment had no controll over the economy. It very much matters how the economy looked like and worked becouse this is the only reason to messure a socialist or Communist country. Yes economy is the means of production and all the different systems dictate what the economy looks like. A Kapitalistic system has its economy in the hands of privat individuals and privat companys just like in the time of the NSDAP and the Nazis. It was not socialist since it was not in the hands of the collective of people or the State. That you accnowledge this but then just ignore it shows clearly that you have no idea about socialism. You could as well just say "socialism is in the name so it must be socialist."
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@JoeyJoJoJrShabbado give me one exemplar where the Sa or the SS marched into a factory to over take it without the factory owner beeing Jewis, a communist or a Socialist. Would love a reference or source on the " Nazis implemented this the day that took power nothing to do with the war" since the hole country was keen on militarising and make a army mobile. The fakt that you quote Hitler makes me a bid nervous since you also seem to forget that he inprisoned hundrets of socialists. Funny how you take the words of a known conspiracy believer to justify that hes a socialist. North Korea also calles themself a democratic country, do you believe that too?🤣🤣
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@JoeyJoJoJrShabbado yeah you absolutly right he did not imprison national socialists because socialism and national socialism are two different things 😂😂😂 you can say that they are both out of Maxist ideology but they are still 2 different things, just like protestants and catholics. The connection is Karl Marx and not that they are both socialist 🤣 I still want that source or info on the SS and/or SA marching into a factory to overtake it buddy. Care to provide that?
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@JoeyJoJoJrShabbado yeah sure, i'm gonna argue with a 4+ hours of video footage so people tell me again "the answer is all in the video" Thought you have a good understanding of the topic 🤣🤣 whats the matter know? Got no arguments when confronted with facts?
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@JoeyJoJoJrShabbado sure bud. I looked at 15 minutes and was curious about the comment section. A lot of comments are deleted by many individuals and near 100% of the comments that are visible are positive ones. You have given me a vid that 4+Hours long as a reference and are unwilling to have any sources you could go get realy easely since you definetly have such a deep understanding of the topic that you memerised this guy and all books of Hitler since you also quote them 😂 Do some thinking and you might realise that a preconseved view that is carefully cultivated and based on facts is not changing by saying "look at this video that is so long and you can't even argue against it since comments get scencored". Its like saying "Oh you believe that the Nazis killed people? Well this guy on youtube sayes otherwise. Here watch 5 Hours and then don't bother me with your pesti arguments" 😂😂
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@KongSunWu nope. Socialism and fashism are still not the same. I don't care about antifa but i highly doubt that antifa is fascist. Not to mention that fasism can arrise from both sides of the political spectrum the same way totalitarianism can arise from both sides of the political spectrum, but socialism and fashism exclude one another becouse one puts the means of production into the hands of the people or the state and fascism puts the means of production into the hand of the 1 supreme leader/party.
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Nope
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Becouse its not.
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@British-monarchist. nope. Fashism is not sozialism. Theres a good video on the topic called "was hitler a sozialist"
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@British-monarchist. fasism is not exclusiv to sozialism. Hitler still was not a sozialist by any standart becouse socialism and national socialism are also 2 different things. It like saying that soy makes you a girl since it contains phytoostrygens and that sounds like ostrygen. They are not the same.
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Nope fashism does not dictate those topics but if you are a fashist you are most likely against all that. You know, not all pii-pii time is Poo-Poo time. But all Poo-Poo time is also Pii-Pii time.
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@baz3184 i never sayed anything about trump here buddy. I say just becouse you are against all those things means that you are fascist is absurd and a fascist can be pro those things although it is highly unlikely. I just want to disconnect those "culture war "topics from the actuall political ideology of fascism.
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Nope
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@JoeyJoJoJrShabbado socialism was a big thing back then, it was cool and hip to say that you where a sozialist. Hitler also called his party sozialist, but his party never was sozialist. It was just to get votes 😂😂
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@British-monarchist. nope
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@mattblack118 it is required in a democracy. Never forget Jan. 6.
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@mattblack118 the US still required loyalty from theyr citicens, thats the "amerikan dream" and other forms of propaganda. Amerika first is also a good exemplar of that.
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Antifa terrorists is the funnyest shit i have heard this month 😂
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