Comments by "Tx240" (@Texas240) on "" video.
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I have a friend in Ukraine who lived near Donetsk (in the "Donbas" area as it's referred to when talking about the area where Russia was supposedly saving Russian speakers). I've been following the situation since before the 2014 Russian invasion of Ukraine.
First, before 2014, when Russia invaded eastern Ukraine and Crimea, there was very little discrimination against Russian speaking people and certainly no persecution or hostility. Discrimination only started AFTER Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea were already semi autonomous regions within Ukraine that mostly governed themselves. Also, EVERY oblast in Ukraine, including the "Russian speaking" ones voted to leave Russia at the fall of the Soviet Union.
Residents didn't much care about what Kyiv OR Moscow was doing. When I asked my friend about the about the Maiden protests, she responded trivially, "that's far away and has nothing to do with us".
Second, the original "separatists" weren't Ukrainian. They were foreigners that were transported to Ukraine by Russia (similar to how after the 2022 invasion Russia transported African or Middle Eastern immigrants to the EU border, gave them bicycles, and told them to request refugee status thereby weaponizing refugees). These Russian proxies, criminals and anarchists, were supported by Russian special forces that trained the proxies in basic tactics, use of captured equipment and would call in Russian helicopter gunship support when the inexperienced Ukrainian army tried to respond.
Again, the original "separatists" weren't Ukrainian. Internally, Russia referred to them as "asymmetric fighters". As a bonus, the first president of the "Donetsk People's Republic or DNR, wasn't Ukrainian OR Russian.
Third, my Russian speaking friend (who's grandmother was so Russian she would talk about the good old days when Stalin was in charge), referred to herself as "Russian" prior to 2022. She, one of the people Putin was allegedly trying to save called the Russian proxies "t*rr*rists" as she fled with her school age daughter to a city farther west in Ukraine. The Russian grandmother was eliminated in an artillery attack by the "separatists" as they used the standard Russian tactic of bombard a city before moving into it. She refused to leave her home and was eliminated by the people Putin sent to "save" her.
Fourth, regarding the claims that Russia had to act in 2022 because Ukraine had been shelling Russian occupied Donbas since 2014, recall that Russian artillery has completely leveled several Ukrainian cities to nothing but rubble in mere months. If Ukraine had been shelling the Donbas area for 8 YEARS, there would be no buildings standing and no people living there because no places to live or work! In fact MOST of the artillery damage that is featured in Russian propaganda of eastern Ukraine was actually leftover damage from the Russian proxies as they moved west.
Finally, my formerly "Russian" friend became a "proud Ukrainian" in February 2022 and her and her young daughter were helping make camo netting, candles, and molotovs to support the Ukrainian defenders. She hates Putin and says what he's done makes her angry. Putin stole her Russian heritage by making being Russian bad. She was shocked by the savagery unveiled in the areas that had been occupied by the Russian troops or more rightly shocked that she thought she was Russian before seeing what "Russian" really was.
Fortunately she still has a good enough sense of humor that when her washing machine broke and I told her not to steal her neighbor's machine, she could laugh and remind me that she ISN'T a Russian.
Putin didn't invade Ukraine in 2014 to protect Russian speakers because they weren't being persecuted. By 2022, most discrimination of Russian speakers who fled west was gone because those people had already integrated into new communities. And, as mentioned, since there were still buildings standing, Ukraine hadn't been "shelling Donbas for 8 years".
There was no reason to invade other than because the world did virtually nothing in 2014 and Putin thought the response in 2022 would be similar and Putin could proceed with his territory grab and empire building.
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12:50 I have a friend in Ukraine who lived near Donetsk (in the "Donbas" area as it's referred to when talking about the area where Russia was supposedly saving Russian speakers). I've been following the situation since before the 2014 Russian invasion of Ukraine.
First, before 2014, when Russia invaded eastern Ukraine and Crimea, there was very little discrimination against Russian speaking people and certainly no persecution or hostility. Discrimination only started AFTER Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea were already semi autonomous regions within Ukraine that mostly governed themselves. Also, EVERY oblast in Ukraine, including the "Russian speaking" ones voted to leave Russia at the fall of the Soviet Union.
Residents didn't much care about what Kyiv OR Moscow was doing. When I asked my friend about the about the Maiden protests, she responded trivially, "that's far away and has nothing to do with us".
Second, the original "separatists" weren't Ukrainian. They were foreigners that were transported to Ukraine by Russia (similar to how after the 2022 invasion Russia transported African or Middle Eastern immigrants to the EU border, gave them bicycles, and told them to request refugee status thereby weaponizing refugees). These Russian proxies, criminals and anarchists, were supported by Russian special forces that trained the proxies in basic tactics, use of captured equipment and would call in Russian helicopter gunship support when the inexperienced Ukrainian army tried to respond.
Again, the original "separatists" weren't Ukrainian. Internally, Russia referred to them as "asymmetric fighters". As a bonus, the first president of the "Donetsk People's Republic or DNR, wasn't Ukrainian OR Russian.
Third, my Russian speaking friend (who's grandmother was so Russian she would talk about the good old days when Stalin was in charge), referred to herself as "Russian" prior to 2022. She, one of the people Putin was allegedly trying to save called the Russian proxies "t*rr*rists" as she fled with her school age daughter to a city farther west in Ukraine. The Russian grandmother was eliminated in an artillery attack by the "separatists" as they used the standard Russian tactic of bombard a city before moving into it. She refused to leave her home and was eliminated by the people Putin sent to "save" her.
Fourth, regarding the claims that Russia had to act in 2022 because Ukraine had been shelling Russian occupied Donbas since 2014, recall that Russian artillery has completely leveled several Ukrainian cities to nothing but rubble in mere months. If Ukraine had been shelling the Donbas area for 8 YEARS, there would be no buildings standing and no people living there because no places to live or work! In fact MOST of the artillery damage that is featured in Russian propaganda of eastern Ukraine was actually leftover damage from the Russian proxies as they moved west.
Finally, my formerly "Russian" friend became a "proud Ukrainian" in February 2022 and her and her young daughter were helping make camo netting, candles, and molotovs to support the Ukrainian defenders. She hates Putin and says what he's done makes her angry. Putin stole her Russian heritage by making being Russian bad. She was shocked by the savagery unveiled in the areas that had been occupied by the Russian troops or more rightly shocked that she thought she was Russian before seeing what "Russian" really was.
Fortunately she still has a good enough sense of humor that when her washing machine broke and I told her not to steal her neighbor's machine, she could laugh and remind me that she ISN'T a Russian.
Putin didn't invade Ukraine in 2014 to protect Russian speakers because they weren't being persecuted. By 2022, most discrimination of Russian speakers who fled west was gone because those people had already integrated into new communities. And, as mentioned, since there were still buildings standing, Ukraine hadn't been "shelling Donbas for 8 years".
There was no reason to invade other than because the world did virtually nothing in 2014 and Putin thought the response in 2022 would be similar and Putin could proceed with his territory grab and empire building.
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