Comments by "Lavender Eucalyptus" (@lavendereucalyptus3225) on "The Grayzone"
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In 2003, US invaded Iraq, looted the Chinese oil field that was contracted with Iraqi government at the time, China protested, no use, because the bully US has bigger fist.
In 2011, US, France and UK invaded Libya, also looted the Chinese investment in Libya, causing China great loss on foreign investments.
In 1999, NATO bombing Chinese embassy in Yugoslavia, China swallowed the insult.
When China started to stand her ground, the west would frame her as âharsh, assertive, aggressiveâ, bully always cries foul when the bullied fights back.
Sometimes I suspect the west countries who have invaded, looted China in the late 1800s and early 1900s are afraid of Chinaâs return to power, because they are afraid China may revenge if China gets too powerful, The west is only.capable of projecting its own sins and quilts onto China.
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Exactly, I would be more cautious with his murky and ambiguous views, flip flopping between right and left.
The minute I heard him say the L word, âLiberalizeâ, I lost interest to continue listening, because he has the same western Imperial and religious crusader mentality that he seeks to CONVERT Chinese government and Chinese people, which 95% of people of PRC are overwhelmingly happy and supporting their government led by CPC. It is extremely condescending and arrogant, almost an insult and disrespect to the people of PRC that their approval of their own government.are totally denied and deafened by the west, as if the Chinese are all so stupid and gullible and they donât know what they want for their life. Itâs time the west put down their arrogance and ego, learn something from a 5000 years of civilization.
I wish GrayZone could invite the respectful credible Chinese experts on.Chinese and foreign affairs, such as Zhang Wei Wei or Eric Lee.
Hereâs a really good dialogue Zhang was invited in this political talk show Munk Dialogue.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR1ESLRi6O0aYupI2rYbAFvVsCM_hv2rpYbszS43LIjzeUCcCU1EKkG7nj4&v=rCxsgTShFQc&feature=youtu.be
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âIsrael has the right to exist.â
This overused fancy slogan is misleading, because all lives have the âright to existâ, not only all lives have the right to exist, but with DIGNITY!
If you say âIsrael has the right to existâ, then how about the Kurdish and the Sikh ethnic groups? Where are they going to find a land to declare independence as a sovereign state? Can they also replicate like Israel by UNPROVOKEDLY invading, stealing and annexing someone elseâs land, take away Palestinianâs right to exist?
If this is what it means by âIsrael has the right to existâ, letâs be honest, itâs only a fancy deceiving way to say: âmy right to exist is more important than your right to exist, and if you fight for your right to exist, I will kill your right to exist.â
There! Hope this unveils the fancy slogan.
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I have an issue, why is China always susceptible to foreign scrutiny and accusations for her own internal affairs, why does China owe anyone explanation or investigation, when US canât live up to its own convictions?
Ask US first to open engagement and allow all foreign investigations on its soil to conduct open investigation on itâs human right issues. If US can live up to its own conviction, China can follow suit. Because itâs not China who initiated the accusation, itâs US.
Last time I check, no one can hold US accountable for its war crimes, and last time I checked, US has not allowed WHO to come in to investigate COVID-19.
Why is it even legal to make groundless accusation when the accuser couldnât even provide credible evidence? Should other countries do the same to US, making accusation and lies left and right. Shouldnât the accuser be more scrutinized than the accused? I donât think itâs fair to put the pressure on the accused to prove innocent, the scrutiny and pressure should be put on the accuser.
I think we got this all backward. If we donât go through protocol of scrutiny on the accuser, then anyone can abuse accusation without strong base.
China is the one who has been marginalized by the west. Why does the west feel such self appointed moral high ground superiority authority? This does not sit right with me.
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 @dnickaroo3574Â
I was thinking the same when he called Russia and China paranoid.
I think the most paranoid and insecure country is actually US. Look at its National Security Law, and look at how paranoid US is when another rising power thrives, US would do anything at all evil cost of anti humanity to secure its world hegemony. Look at Japan in the 90s, it was a rising power, US launched Anti Japan campaign, the whole country is hating on Japanese, after US signed the Plaza Accord with Japan, Japanâs economy tanked since. US would try to chokehold any rising power with all very evil dirty tactics overtly and covertly.
Many Chinese are very puzzled why US hates China so much given China didnât do anything to hurt US, quite contrarily, US is the one constantly demonizing China and initiate attacks and various forms of wars on China, provoking conflict at the S China Sea, US is a bully, yet the bully always cries foul when the bullied fights back.
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 @comingvikingÂ
The meaning of being liberal can be different in China than from the west. China in some way has very liberal and progressive approach and achievement led by CPC, such as eradicating poverty as the most important national project, ambitious carbon emission reduction plan, environmental protection green projects, electric transportation infrastructure, constantly reform to adapt to the changing world, China plans big, but you can not achieve big goals all together as whole nation without good discipline and restraint. Western liberal definition is often more narrowly defined with which more focused on individualism instead of collectiveness,
The link I posted in my first comment, is a comprehensive dialogue with Zhang Wei Wei, quite insightful.
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While I agree with their right to protest lawfully and peacefully, but I donât agree with their cause.
I fully support mask and vaccine MANDATE, because Covid-19 is NOT a âflu likeâ virus.
Americans can never understand freedoms is NEVER absolute, freedom is only relevant, there is no such a thing in life or In nature âabsolute freedomâ existed, not in reality, maybe only existing in their ideological fantasy land. Because either choice we make, there is always price to pay, depends on what position youâre in and what price youâre willing to pay with your position.
With mandate of mask and vaccines, there should be exceptions for those with special needs. But without mandate, there has been and would be much higher infections and deaths, at that point the health system has been and would be at the unsustainable capacity with Covid patients.
Those truckers complained about their canât kiss their dying family with a mask on, while some states have hospitals donât allow families in the hospital room to say goodbye to their COVID dying family even with mask on, this happened in many countries in the world. For goodness sake, this is a âpandemicâ, not a flue, you donât have the luxury to demand âabsolute freedomâ in exchange of otherâs choice to live in a safer more protected community and society during a deadly pandemic.
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Lyle Goldstein is very insightful, I may not agree with him on certain issue, but overall he is really in touch with reality.
On Taiwan issue, there is this insight thatâs not widely known by the west. Taiwan DPP party assisted HK 2019 protest, in the effort to prove to the world particularly to west countries political hemisphere, one country two system wouldnât work that China failed to honor Basic Law. Taiwan DPP party advocates separatism for Taiwan independence, deliberately abandoned 1992 Consensus to cut off all means of official mutual communication and talks.
Generational brainwashing to cut off cultural and genetic connection to mainland China through political ideologies, such as Taiwan has âdemocraticâ system, when China is being labeled as fearful âauthoritarianâ âCommunismâ which undertone is designed to inflict fears and animosity toward Mainlanders, just like in the US. same hate/fear propaganda. Taiwanâs current political environment is as toxic as in US toward China mainland.
For decades, Mainlander has always viewed Taiwan people are their brothers and sisters, but the mainlanders began to learn harsh truth that newer Taiwan generations increasingly grew animosity toward mainlanders, thanks to systemic textbook and media brainwashing. Taiwan toxic politics is widening the gap between them. And the Covid pandemic seems to be the tipping point that the mainlanders finally accept the harsh reality that Taiwan people truly hate mainlanders, because Taiwan DPP politicians refused to send any mask to mainland, put aside politics, anyone would land a helping hand for diplomatic or humanitarian aids, but Taiwan sent zero and meanwhile constantly ridiculed and mocked mainlanders by calling Wuhan virus, they refuse to call COVID-19 up till this day, and they also band with US to bash WHO and called for WHO director to resign. Anyway, in short, Mainlanders are extremely disappointed and now have changed their views on Taiwan people, they view Taiwan DPP leaning people nasty and heartless. China Beijing has always been kind to Taiwan people, and implemented many benefits and privileges programs designed for Taiwan people in effort of keep good relations. But it seems one sided effort is not enough to keep good relation while Taiwan DPP is eager to draw disconnection from mainland.
Taiwan economy is heavily depending on Mainland, yet their political relation is so hostile to China, this sounds like Australia to China as well.
With DPP cut off any talk platform with mainland, and with US playing Taiwan as a geopolitical pawn to pressure and provoke China, what choice does China have to Taiwan?
Beijing officialâs tone toward Taiwan is not as soft as before, but still extremely cautious, China does not use force lightly, especially Taiwan is still considered as part of families. But Beijing also has to prepare the possibility in using military force ONLY if under the unacceptable provocation from US that violates One China policy, otherwise Beijing would not ever consider using force on Taiwan.
You see the full picture here, who is the real aggressor here to instigate internal conflict? Without US presence and provocation, China and Taiwan will leave each other along if both honors One China principle. DPP actually sweared under the oath of ROC constitution, so it DPP declares independence, it violates both One China policy and ROC constitution.
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Whenever I hear people like Seth said âanti war is a principleâ, they box in âanti war narrativeâ as some kind of ideological fantasy, conveniently ignore all historic context that leads to this war.
itâs like telling your kids, âdonât you fight back no matter how much you have been bullied and pushed to the wall, try to rationale with the bullies, try talking nice to the bullies, but above all in no circumstances, DONâT ever push back.â, in this case, the bullies US/NATO is the BLACK HAND does all the pushing BEHIND Ukraine.
Itâs so lazy, convenient and cheap to condemn Russia, while these self proclaimed âanti war advocatesâ canât offer any better solutions what more Russia could have done.
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I understand the sentiment when Massie said let Europe, Russia and Ukraine deal with their own problems, America has enough to deal with at home.
But I thought Massie should know better that R/U conflict is the very creation MADE BY US/NATO, US/NATO needs to be held accountable for this mess they created.
Not only US/NATO didnât make any effort trying to deescalate the conflict, they add fuels to fire by sending arms and encouraging insurgence, which would only add more destruction. Making insane sanctions, exploiting opportunity to enrich self interest at the cost of Russia and Ukraine, and many other countries in the world.
Being a âselective anti warâ activist, makes you look cheap and hypocritical. Where were you for justice when Russiaâs national security has repeatedly been squeezed to no room to breath, where were you for justice when the Russians in Donbas are being genocide?
Or you just become an anti war warrior overnight simply because your government and your media tell you to hate on the âRussiansâ.
The level of lacking rationales and logical thinking which should be basing on historic context, is astounding.
Our compassion and sympathy are being cheaply exploited by our corrupt politicians, we allow them to predetermine side, who to hate, who to sympathize, we are too lazy to research and think, a nation of freeDUMB, a highly ideologically vengeful nation.
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US and its allies NATO are the real threat to world peace. NATO is supposed to devolve after Cold War, not only they did not, they escalated tension with Russia by expanding beyond Germany and put advanced missile on Russiaâs border, which US would never allow this to happen to its own border, this means Cold War has never ended.
US staged proxy wars and color revolutions still continues in the Russia region.
Chinaâs Hong Kong in 2019 almost fell for the victim of the insidious US CIA/NED staged color revolutions, thanks to Beijingâs decisive HK SAR National Security Law, HK people can return to their normal peace and freedom and security that HK has always enjoyed before the HK riots and terrorist secession staged and backed by US in 2019.
But Ukraine was very unfortunate that fell victim of US backed proxy war, Ukraine is suffering so much hardship right now because Ukraine was used and abused as an US geopolitical pawn. People of Taiwan province, please wake up, donât become another victim of US pawn, your society will end up with chaos and instability, innocent civilians gets killed in cross fires, economic hardship, broken families and you will lose so much more, except those corrupt politicians and weapon cartels benefit from conflicts and wars. Donât become the victim of US imperial pawns.
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âDo you want Ukraine or Russia to win this war?â
If anyone asks this STUPID BRAIN DEAD question again, as if this is some kind of sports event competition, I would respond to them with this â
âLook, if you are so concerned about having Ukraine or Russia to win, why donât you go to the frontline side by side to fight with the Ukrainians or the Russians, BLEED WITH the Ukrainians or the Russians, and serve as a meat grinder cannon fodder like the Ukrainians and the Russians, if you care so much about âWINNINGâ, then DO IT, be part of the VICTORY, then Iâll take your STUPID question more seriously!â
Trumpâs answer to this stupid question is actually more humane than this INHUMANE stupid question, he answered âSTOP THE BLEEDING FIRST!â, but the lady kept pressing on simply because Trump didnât fall into her trap and gave the answer she trapped him for.
Ps. Disclaimer, Im not a Trump supporter, but I can tell right from wrongs when I see it.
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