Comments by "Reformed Sauron" (@ReformedSauron) on "Ron Desantis Prepares to Make a Horrific Error" video.

If DeSantis does this it means he is effectively strategically inept in terms of playing the long game.
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I tend to agree with razorfist on that DeSantis has a lot of good policies and can come across very nicely but at other times he comes across as painfully politician. At the very least Trump always comes across as a maverick, albeit at just as arrogant as his potential rival just with a different flair.
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@Richforce1 that may or may not be the case coming up, but it has to be said that he is not doing his job acting is basically an ambassador in other countries right now doing chores which are not part of his duty. I get that senators and representatives do it too, but it is not part of their job and I get really angry when they do it as well. It's the kind of thing you would do for cloud when you're gearing up for something, even if it's only an exploratory committee to potentially run.
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DeSantis despite having a much smaller base in comparison to Trump is about just as good as Trump at appealing to the base he does have, but the problem is apparently DeSantis cannot commit to strategy in a way that goes beyond one or two steps successfully. Mudslinging in politics is standard and I expected to be back and forth between him and Trump, but only one of them is outsmarting the other strategically and consistently so. DeSantis has about the same charisma as Trump but does not have the chops to play a large chessboard quite yet. If he even attempts to commit to this he is also going to lose some of his charisma factor, as the fact is the vast majority of people who like DeSantis also approve of trump and have approved of him for a longer period of time, they just have a preference between the two. But that can change to a great degree depending on what DeSantis decides.
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I generally like the idea of a trump DeSantis ticket although there are better ones that I would prefer. But it would not be a good personality fit as they are pretty similar just with different flairs. Outside of the recent mudslinging DeSantis in Trump have been civil and friendly in a business way. Trump however shows actual companionship with people like Kari Lake and Ran Paul. He actually seems to really meld with them. There is actually some sentiment there.
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I do not think it is that black and white, despite being more pro Trump than pro DeSantis. It is okay to prefer one or the other. We have to be careful not to offer an olive branch. Mudslinging is fine in the meantime but in the end you do need unity. I think the more accurate term is you are either pro populism or you are pro returning to pre-2016 status quo. We know where Trump stands, we just hope DeSantis stands on the same side. We may find out soon enough.
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You are right he is too good for the GOP. They don't deserve him.
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I don't like it when congressman senators do the job of an ambassador or president because it is not their job. Therefore I must hold the same principle for governors. He needs to be back in Florida. He was not elected to a diplomat by Floridians.
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There are a bunch of red flags but until he makes a definitive move we really need to wait and see. It also could be that he is a well-meaning uncompromised idiots if he moves.
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@Hal_2189 i don't know man, Trump may have Cruz bent over a barrel but I still wouldn't vote for him even if DeSantis ruins himself. Cruz is not subservient because of any kind of loyalty to populism or a man. Cruises loyal because he knows Trump has the ability to destroy him.
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I think they would feel a lot more comfortable about the likelihood of getting away with cheating in the general if there was a dirty primary then if it was clean. The fact they have to propagandize so much means that they know they don't have a guarantee so they need to increase their chances as much as possible before the general.
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Admittedly both have advocated for red flag laws in the past. However when Trump's own corps Base had a backlash against his red flag stands Trump has backed off since then and stayed backed off. True to populism he learns from his base if he messes up too badly. One can hope DeSantis will do the same. There is a false dichotomy but you're attributing its traits correctly with a strawman.
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I don't think it would be a good personality match up. They are far too similar. While the sansone Trump have a history of being civil with each other outside of the recent standard political mudslinging, while DeSantis and Trump have a history of being civil with each other outside of the recent standard political mudslinging, they have no real sense of camaraderie nor ever have. There are many others who have that camaraderie with Trump in a genuine form.
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The president never had the power to lock people down. I wish people understood this. About 20 governors kept things open.
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@nunereclipsereborn most of the people Trump gives compliment to not bosom buddies with him. They are friendly in business terms. This is the standard when it comes to political friendships in fact. And political friendships always hit rough spots on and off at points in time. If you watch long enough you'll know the difference between who is his bosom buddy and who is simply a business friend.
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@Ziegfried82 very true, however I do not think it should be allowed and even if it is it is uncouth to do so if they are not an ambassador or a Chief diplomat. That kind of thing always pisses constituents off. It doesn't matter if it's allowed.
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Their propaganda would be pointless if they didn't think there was a chance if only a small one. While white pills may not always win, blackpills never do. Black pills do drag down the vanguard though. There is no black piller that has ever changed the course of history for the better.
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That is possible but it doesn't explain why he would need to announce a committee to look into his potential chances. He could just wait for them to repeal it and then announce a run right off the bat was still a lot of backlash but less people thinking he looked weak. Maybe he does run but it shows and ineptitude when it comes to certain aspects of strategy. Also as the governor is the chief executive and the one who carries out law enforcement exactly who is going to enforce the Florida law if it isn't overturn should he run? And then he has to contend with the fact that he is neck-and-neck with Trump and his own State and half did officials representing his State have endorsed his opponent already. Ron DeSantis would have had a better chance had he announced earlier this year or late last year after Trump announced.
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He is the chief executive of Florida making sure laws are enforced. So what's to stop them from ignoring the enforcement such a law? Even if they change it it doesn't mean he'll have enough of the support within his own State once that happens. Half of the Congressional Representatives in Florida have already declared for his opponent, including many members of the Florida legislature. He is tied with Trump in his own state in terms of primary polling and then basically every other state Trump is leading, in some cases buy a few percent, and in some cases buy 20 or 30 points. His window is closing quickly so he needs to s*** or get off the pot. A lot can happen in just two months that can narrow that window even further.
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Only in terms of that he comes across as a lot more politician than his potential rival. So at the worst he's about as creepy as your average Senator Governor or president in the modern era.
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Even if convicted that isn't happening.
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Potentially about to demonstrate a major lack of strategery. Trump may seem a unhinged and aimless on the face of it to many, but he but he comes very close to being a populist Sun Tzu in terms of being able to outmaneuver end run rings around his opponents up to and including setting traps in reality.
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@expressivepets1 I am pretty sure that law only applies to people running on the same ticket being both from Florida. I don't think it applies to people running on different tickets (though if you are able to fact-check this I am willing to admit I'm wrong because I don't know for absolute sure)
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@nunereclipsereborn only when they thought he might give them some sort of mercy or clemency in his political policy and when he didn't give that to them they would snap on him yet again.
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It does look like that with the sound off doesn't it?😅
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The one good thing about his policy is he took a stand against his own party when it came to vaccine choice on whether or not someone should be coerced. Outside of that he's generally a standard neolib. He has recently admittedly however by running. He's not going to get much weight from the Dems. Depending on his other policy he probably won't get many indys either if it is your standard Democrat policy at this point. I think Kennedy will probably fold before the general.
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I think that only applies if they are running on the same ticket.
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@JDoe-gf5oz the mudslinging is fine from both. The problem is DeSantis picked the wrong time to make a jab directly related to the indictment. DeSantis does not have exactly the best timing. And when he did address it better after the backlash, he could not even couldn't even say Trump's name. He looked at the polling and how he had taken a nosedive in his own state in terms of the first choice for the primary pick and he backtracked fast but not totally. At any other time getting in a jab at Trump would have been fine. Santus does not have as good as strategic chops as his potential opponent. If Trump was able to do a number on him when he is not officially running what do you think he's going to do to him in the primaries? The orange guy's going to run rings around him, and on the campaign trail Trump is known to set up elaborate traps that tank strong opponents, because despite the madman veneer of his strategy he is shrewd and calculating and how he carries that strategy out. He times his jabs generally speaking.
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@Lovebomb I think he's playing a strategy to fend off a large enough candidate that could actually split in the primaries. I think most of Trumps actions right now are to dissuade DeSantis not to run. The neocons want a split. I think of DeSantis stands down you're going to see a lot of Trump's criticism of DeSantis die off. Now ask yourself this question: why would a bunch of neocons want DeSantis to run which would split the party? Two can play this game, but only one is right.
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@st0n3p0ny it is possible but I'm going to withhold my judgment on that until he runs for sure. I will however say that even people who are deep States and compromised are first and foremost loyal to their own self-interest before any deep state. Members of the deep state will defy the greater deepstate around them if it means it could potentially hurt them themselves worse. It's kind of why even though Biden is deep State I do not think they wanted him to run, but Biden (or in his Alzheimer's addled case more importantly his loyal inner circle which includes his pressuring and grasping wife) forced it. It now appears that the Democrats have been forced to swallow what may very well end up being a poison pill because of that. Joe may love the the deep state but he loves himself more as do all who lust for power. Loyalty to faction will never be more than loyalty to self interest in the corrupts' eyes. The uniparty is a somewhat tight-knit confederation but it is not a solid block because of this fact. That is its major flaw and will likely lead to its downfall if it happens.
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@Chuck Bass if he runs and split the tickets so badly it gives Biden a legitimate victory instead of just a honked one because a bunch of populists jump ship, or if he runs against Trump and loses possibly crippling Trump and making any attempt to honk actually look once again convincing to the general population DeSantis will have ruined his full Federal run potential not only for 2028, but for the rest of his career. He will basically be limited to Florida. I think the sentence has a great deal to lose because there's a hundred ways he could get it wrong and only one or two ways he could get it right should he run now. By the way if he is introducing an exploratory committee, it means he's definitely thinking about pulling that trigger even if he decides in the end not to, so he doesn't care about whatever law they recently passed in Florida. It's not like he has the governor is going to enforce it as chief executive in Florida.
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@mariokarter13 I do not think he bashed exactly but he did drag it out and let it stay idle for a while. He finally really got down to work on it after the Trump indictment and his faux pas response. But it did remain dormant for a while admittedly.
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