Comments by "cchris874" (@cchris874) on "Inside Edition" channel.

  1.  @ajm5007  Yeah, makes perfect sense. She's never had a single complaint in her 26 year career, never a single accusation of racism, and now out of the blue is dying to kill a black man. Some people just don't get it.
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  2. +Super Exho "Life in prison" Oh that's really ridiculous. Yes, she did something very evil. But technically, how can it be manslaughter? If she killed him, then he didn't kill himself? Was his free will rendered null and void because he was depressed? Do we want to live in a society where mere words can get you a life sentence? Come on back down to reality. Way, way over the top. But I sympathize with your emotions. Don't let them carry you away. cheers
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  3. +Super Exho "how was it his fault?" Because he had free will. Unless you want to say anyone with suicidal depression has no free will. If that's the case, then let's be consistent and deny people with suicidal depression the right to vote, or sign wills, or be held accountable in a court of law. Otherwise there's no real principle here.
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  4. +G k Here the thing for me. murder or manslaughter implies that it was involuntary. That the person had no choice. That's why this for me goes over the edge of where the law should go. Roy DID have the free will to say, I'm not doing this. So I agree with the ACLU on this one. Unless we say that depressed people have no control over their actions, it sets a dangerous precedent. I fully agree though, that she did something very evil.
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  5. +Super Exho "she KILLED a person!" Only if he had no free will. The most you could say is that she aided and abetted him and influenced him. That doesn't = killing. HE killed himself. He still had free will. Analogy: a man is threatening to jump from a 10 story building and the crowd gathers around and starts yelling JUMP JUMP. If he jumps, would you call for everyone in the crowd to be executed? Really? Do we want to live in that kind of society where you can be executed for a single word?
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  6. +Riley "is that manslaughter can be proven here [beyond a reasonable doubt]." Part of the problem for me is "beyond reasonable doubt" has very little provable meaning. Here's how I define "reasonable doubt.": If you can come up with a plausible scenario, i.e., one which is not exceptionally fanciful or or preposterous, then it counts as reasonable doubt. Is it so bizarre or fanciful to speculate that Roy MAY have been in control of his decisions? I think it's nothing more than hubris to claim we have this level of omniscience. After all, being depressed doesn't take away your right to sign contracts, vote etc, the way they would for a child or a much more severely impaired person. End of ramble.
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  7.  Tina1924  Well if you know anything about heuristics, it's absolutely possible to make a mistake which happens outside of conscious awareness. I'm not saying she didn't also behave recklessly. But there have been other cases of mistaken gun-for-taser by police. This may be one of those cases that shows again how common sense is often wrong.
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  8. +Michael Is it within reason to suggest Roy may have been in control of his decision making throughout the final texts?
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  9. +Michael If he was in full control, then it follows she didn't force him to kill himself, and it would simply be a legal suicide. You cannot both be in full control AND be forced to do something against your will. In any other legitimate manslaughter case, your death would be beyond your control. At least that's how I see it.
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  10. +Michael If she didn't force him against his will, then there's no manslaughter. To me that's a commonsense understanding of the term.
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  11. +MrShaiya96 Well I don't know if I'm the only one. But that said, thank you. . BTW, when I click on "view all 74 replies," yours disappears. Has this happened to you or others?
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  12. That makes you as ignorant as the school.
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  13. +Riley I agree with most of what you said. My concern here is reasonable doubt. It can't be stated with anything approaching certainty that every single depressed and suicidal person no longer has meaningful free will. That to me means we give that benefit of the doubt to the defendant. That she did a very evil thing isn't really the point. The point is, can manslaughter be proven beyond a reasonable doubt here? I'd say, no, there is reasonable doubt. But it's a difficult call, and a tricky case, at least to me.
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  14. +dr boom Let's keep the discussion civil. This case has two very interesting sides. Let's not go off into theatrical exaggerations about a legitimate controversy. It's not like I'm advocating mudering 3-year-olds in cold blood. Maybe you aren't skilled in the art of recognizing nuance and grayness in a complex world.
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  15. +Seth Jones Far from being trivial, I take the issues here very seriously. Both sides of the case have their merits, and also unpalatable implications. If I've not made that point clear, I'm doing so now. cheers
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  16. +Wam She only got 15 months because, contrary to what the gladiator Youtube crowd thinks, the punishment is commensurate with the crime.
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  17.  @Alleged_Entertainment  Shows there's a real disconnect in thinking there's only one valid point of view. The case against the DP is absolutely valid. For one, the DP is a cop-out. Since none of us can experience being dead, the DP prevents the killer from having to live through his punishment. He escapes all the decades of loneliness and depravation that life in prison imposes. Is that really a punishment?
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  18. Absolutely. The present racial situation has descended into pure absurdism. There is no logic. There is no due process. There is no intelligence. Just pure rage coming from many angles. When one feels rage, anything goes.
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  19. Another meaningless post.
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  20. It's a lost cause. Common sense doesn't prevail on Youtube, only moronity does. For every 100 stupid comments, we get one sane one like yours.
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  21. It was a good story except they forgot to include the fact there was a paraplegic and a pregnant woman among the passengers. So this lady in her 80s suffers a fall, needs to go to the hospital and arrives a few minutes late, and you won't even answer their calls and emails, and strand her on a tiny island inn the middle of nowhere? Sorry, I will never use this cruise line.
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  22. A grieving mom deserves a pass. That said, we have ample evidence of Wright's criminal past, which includes participating in a car jacking, shooting his friend in the head, and armed assault and attempted choking of a woman who's tearful testimony can be seen in a Fox video. The mother of Duante undoubtedly has either denied these charges, or forgiven him for committing them. What Potter did can't begin to compare to what Wright did. It's a double standard at best to give her son a pass and stick it to Potter big time. One day, with the passage of time, perhaps Wright's mother might realize that if she could forgive her son for behavior far more outrageous than this, she might have it in her to have some forgiveness for Potter too.
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  23. Governments also take advantage of tragedy created by others. But that never happens, right?
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  24.  @smitty2307  And this time they took advantage while the truth mvt created.
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  25. How can you possibly know it's cheating: EITHER they each had the same set of notes in their lap during the exam, or they had the same set of notes when they studied together beforehand. Go for it.
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  26. Difficult situation as he was a hunter. I believe by coincidence they mentioned in another article he liked to catch real cat fish. This is effectively murder. I hope the penalty can be harsh.
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  27. Not as stupid as you.
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  28. It's human nature to play judge, jury and executioner. It's social vigilantism, just as ugly as the physical version.
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  29. I agree this was relatively speaking a model situation. My guess is the cuffs were mandatory by law. Either way, I think it's wrong. Until such time a suspect actually starts causing trouble, keep the cuffs out of the picture. But maybe that's naive. All in all though, more compliments than criticism.
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  30. The only problem is that the demolitions make no sense unless you invent ever more elaborate theories for which demonstrable proof is absent.
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  31. You have to consider heuristics: a field of study that invalidates the assumption that careful people can always avoid stupid mistakes.
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  32. Almost as disgraceful as blaming the parent.
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  33. Were ya been mate? This whole thread is saturated with blame for the killing.
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  34. No, that's an unacceptable answer! We must all express rage at the mom because that is the purpose of Youtube. To always villainize our fellow humans as often and as irrationally as possible.
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  35. With such limited info it's fair to not draw a final conclusion yet. I'm all in favor of due process, but this smells bad.
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  36. Human nature is ugly. This is social vigilantism. It seems you only get due process in court, if then.
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  37. By definition, all Tasmanian devils born in Tasmania were also born in Australia. We have become not just a sound bite culture but a culture specifically designed by and for the dull, stupid, careless, and shameless..
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  38. The death penalty is all but an illusion of justice. Just think about it. It allows the perpetrator to escape all the potential decades he would have experienced locked up. Thus he effectively escapes punishment.
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  39.  @ajm5007  "I'm willing to change my mind when confronted by rational argumentation..." Well I've given you some in my above quote on hunting accidents and heuristics.
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  40.  @ajm5007  It's the 12 reply down, right between Hoodrich's and your reply to him.
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  41.  @ajm5007  Well that is weird, but no surprise given Youtube's view of its users as basically animals, to be insulted, mocked and ignored at every turn. I'll post again and see if you get it this time.
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  42. I agree. My guess is it might be mandatory for certain suspected crimes? I'm only being quite lighthearted: but how long down do you think I would have to scroll before someone serioulsy claims it's all an act to make the police look good?
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  43.  @tristanrandall5893  Anything's possible, I agree. But with that many officers, any such deceit won't last long.
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  44. But you need the proof, that's the point.
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  45. You're being naive if you think they should have taken a chance and not shot it. The risk was too great.
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  46. You assume human beings can be perfect at all times. Incorrect assumption.
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  47. I'm surprised they didn't mention the fact that there was also a pregnant woman and a paraplegic among the passengers. The woman in her 80s suffers a fall, and you refuse to even answer an email and strand them on a tiny island in the middle of nowhere? That is sufficient for me to never use this cruise line.
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  48. No they weren't, thought the government is evil.
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