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Comments by "cchris874" (@cchris874) on "Crowd Reacts To Guilty Verdict of Kim Potter in Death of Daunte Wright" video.
This confirms again the major news media have stopped being news reporters. "It brought justice to the family." Sorry, that isn't news but an opinion. Standards no longer exist anywhere it seems. If Fox news were to say "the verdict was an injustice," do you think they would get away with it?
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While I think the verdict was wrong, it should have zero bearing on Wright's criminal status. Potter should be judged only by her decisions, not a past crime she didn't know about.
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Pure speculation. But I give you a pass because I don't expect intelligent minds to be the dominant force at Youtube.
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I think because the case polarized even people of basic decency. Some will say a one-time mistake is not grounds for prison. If you cannot at least see the case for that, it only shows again how so many people cannot put themselves inside the shoes of another.
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Well it might be, but it's clearly open to discussion.
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@MK-oz2lf And conversely, if you made a fatal mistake due to unconscious error, you might not be so quick to judge.
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@MK-oz2lf You may be right. But one should not base a verdict on what is likely but what is certain. One must always assume the best rather than the worst of the accused. This is called due process. In this case, speculation, such as yours, has been twisted into confirmed fact. That's why we have a justice system. We have to recognize the difference between speculation, even good speculation, and proven facts. There are exceptions to every rule and past history is no guarantee of guilt.. Neither you nor I can prove we are mind readers. I think this whole approach of making the absolute worst possible assumption about an accused person is the darker side of human nature, at least when someone faces prison. It's precisely because of racism that due process is so important. It's often denied to black people in such cases. So if we trash it here, it sends a message that we can continue to trash it against blacks and other oppressed groups.
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Open to discussion.
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You need a cruelty management program. It's so out of line with what she did. Sensible people are in agreement about this. The dark side of human nature thrives here, as your post demonstrates.
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And unconscious mistakes cannot be detected as they happen.
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Nirotix, There is an excuse. It's called heuristics. It shows that, contrary to common sense, even very experienced people can be the victim of unconscious error, especially under pressure and a deadline. This is key to understanding such cases.
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@Nirotix Straw man. She wasn't trying to use deadly force. What does this have to do with he versus she? Did I claim it makes a difference?
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I agree. I think for some the satisfaction of the verdict is based on cruelty. Some people just want to stick it to others as a basic principle. The cruelty part is also manifested in trying to assume the worst of her, rather than what's supposed to happen in due process. Give the benefit of unproven facts to the accused. To me at least, this case was another example of trashing this concept. What was to a degree inherently speculative was twisted by the prosecutor into certainty, and at every opportunity making Potter out to be selfish and uncaring. My criticism extends to not allowing her have a final Xmas dinner with her family when she hasn't even been sentenced yet. Granted, that's a very controversial position, and bound to produce much rage, and more discomfort for the Wright family. To me, we should err on the side of compassion. I don't think there's been much of that coming from the Wright family, if I'm not mistaken. It's all just good versus evil. Dehumanizing everyone who makes a mistake is part of the problem and seems to be on the upswing.
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Your opinion shows again how so much of humanity lacks balance, and the ability to control their darkest impulses. Your mindset is precisely why we have a justice system that at least has the possibility of a fair trial. It's an insurance policy against people with poor judgement, and a passion for cruelty, like you. Instead, society has given a place for such people. It's called Youtube. Where you belong.
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@robie_zoeyes7716 And common sense here is that this was an accident. The trial was about turning speculation into certainty. This violated due process. When we can't prove consciously reckless conduct, we are guessing. And even 5 years in jail should not be the result of speculation. Just my tentative thoughts, so anyone reading this, please don't accuse me of being unopen to other points of view.
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@robie_zoeyes7716 I don't know absolutely. But it's common sense. Sensible people are in agreement that it was not deliberate. When we become so obsessed by police brutality and racism, our better judgement often goes off the deep end. To always assume the worst of people is the dark side of humanity. And goes squarely against due process which demands proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
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@robie_zoeyes7716 "Do you realize that there’s two sides of the coin, right?" Did you read my post carefully? I wrote above: "Just my tentative thoughts, so anyone reading this, please don't accuse me of being unopen to other points of view." I correctly anticipated someone might go after me for this. Please read more carefully. Thanks.
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@robie_zoeyes7716 "Are you trying to make me see what you call “common sense” as Undeniable? " Here you go making yet more assumptions. A conversation is a conversation. I'm not trying to make you do anything. Maybe what's driving you and many others is the assumption an experienced officer could not make such a mistake. But the research shows otherwise. The field of study is known as heuristics, just in case you want to look it up. It shows that when under a deadline or stress, even very experienced people are subject to unconscious error, meaning the error cannot be detected as it happens. This should be considered a revelation, and IMO should be included in every jury handbook and plastered on the side of every courthouse. This goes against common sense, but this merely shows our "common sense" is not always a good guide to reality. Common sense needs to be updated once in a while, and here I am only giving you my opinion.
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Well that's clearly open to discussion.
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