Comments by "cchris874" (@cchris874) on "VICE" channel.

  1. I always thought the term sounds odd, like "tomatoes of stew. Or a "car of blue."
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  2. Please read "Anything But Straight" by Wayne Besen. The closest to a definitive proof refuting conversion therapy.
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  3. +Neo A. No, you're wrong. Homosexuality is not a sin, and gays will not go to hell. It is evil and wicked to tell someone they will go to hell for nonviolent actions which do not harm others. cheers
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  4. +Physician Alpha So, I still don't have a rational reason to reject the following scenario: God creates intelligent beings who will not sin. They are hardwired to not choose, among other things, wanton aggression, violence, rape , etc. Not because they don't have free will. But because it is simply not in their nature. Just as it is not in our natures to stand on our heads and eat lentils all day long. God could have decided the very concept of extreme suffering would not be a feature of the universe. Now, if you can provide an explanation why God could not have chosen the above specifications, you may be onto something. cheers
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  5. An off duty commercial airline pilot claims one of the objects suddenly shot eastward towards JFK airport. It should be enough to prove that even experienced witnesses are not reliable when it comes to judging distances at night.
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  6.  @megangwilliam5343  Thank you for this nice learning exchange.
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  7. +Willy Wheelbarrow OK, well maybe we're in agreement. Let's find out: I'm a gay man. I've always wanted to know what it would be like to have sexual attraction to women. Having tried for nearly 40 years, I have not succeeded. Does this conflict with your beliefs, or do you accept I am telling you the truth about me? cheers
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  8. +Neo A. Sorry, a biblical God does not exist. There's no evidence for it, and the ultimate proof lies in the definition. A biblical God is defined as a Perfect Being. It follows that perfect Beings do not create imperfect things. For example, the definition of a biblical God means God could not have created Satan. Yet you and other fundys would have us believe that this nice, benevolent and loving God would wish to create this evil Being. It's pure contradiction. All it takes is a little common sense to see how this is all a hopeless fantasy. I presume you have some common sense somewhere within you? There are many dozens of proofs a biblical God is an impossibility. But all you need is one. You are infected by the God virus, which precludes one from thinking outside the fundy box. Which is fine. But don't foist your beliefs on us as if they were factual. They are not. They are merely your beliefs. cheers
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  9. +Neo A. This is what I mean about common sense. Everything you wrote about Satan above is wrong. God allegedly knows everything past, present and future. So, he knew full well in advance that Satan would turn evil and lead a rebellion to overthrow him. What kind of bizarre God would then choose to create Satan? So, your narrative contradicts the fact that God is all knowing. God is also free to kill off Satan. If he cannot, then he wishes evil on mankind, or is not all powerful. If God is all knowing, he could have foreseen which people would commit evil and simply eliminate them from his original creation. If you don't see the mounting pile of contradictions that are generated by your comments, and the definition of God, then you are not using the common sense you were born with. cheers
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  10. +dannyclough19  "These men know they like other men. The point is to help them change" If they are happy, there is no need to help them change. More to the point, it's a false assumption that most gays can change. There's no compelling evidence to back it up. It is thus destructive and damaging to try and tell someone they aren't really who they are. cheers
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  11. +Physician Alpha Thank you for your reply. I appreciate yo are trying to make the Bible make sense, but you have still not really answered the more fundamental question about Satan. If God is omniscient, and KNEW Lucifer would rebel, WHY did he create him? Is the world a better place because of Satan? Thanks.
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  12. +jshannon2k8 Well, the evidence is not far from what Simona claims. It has become very clear that almost nobody has ever actually lost their homosexual tendencies as a result of attending reparative therapy sessions. The scandal ridden industry has even seen its own leaders recant and admit there is no such thing s an ex-gay. Of course there may be here and there, but the most definitive study on this concluded that not a single person has been documented to have changed from gay to straight unless they had bisexual attraction before they became adults. cheers.
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  13. +Physician Alpha I do appreciate your attempts to explain this, but I still see you are making so many unnecessary assumptions to get the argument to work. SO, instead of you trying to explain it again, why don't we try a different approach. I will create my own argument in a series of steps. Kindly tell me which step, if any, is unjustified. 1) God is a perfect being: omnipotent, omniscient, and filled with love and benevolence 2) God wished to make the universe a better place 3) So, his plan called for creating a species made in his image. 4) Being a perfect being, God decided on the following characteristics for his new creation: -they will have free will -they will use their free will to uphold moral values and not use it to harm others. For example, since God is omniscient, he will have foreseen which of these beings would turn against him, and ensure they will not be born. Or, they will be designed to have no motive for personal gain at the expense of others, and no violent tendencies. 5) Happy with the admirable nature , and lack of a dark side of his new creation, he has no need to create angels, or to create a hostile environment with misery and suffering. 6) Consequently, extreme suffering is not a characteristic of the universe. 7) In such a world, there would be no rebellious Lucifer, no earthquakes, no tsunamis, no war, no murder. So, that is my argument, which flows directly from the definition of a Perfect Being: omniscient, omnipotent, loving, moral, wise. Kindly tell me why God didn't go by this plan instead. Try not to add gratuitous assumptions such as "free will means we are free to disobey God" (already answered in step 4). Thanks.
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  14. +Physician Alpha Thank you for your reply. "(1) Is half correct. God (of the Bible) can not do [everything] He can not sin " Not sure why he couldn't. Wouldn't it be more accurate to say he would choose not to sin even though he could if he really wanted to?
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  15. I agree, it's wrong to silence crazy theories. But the reason is PCism, not real false flags. You guys really ARE crazy, and people are rightly fed up.
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  16. If gay were a choice, why would such therapy be needed?
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  17.  @megangwilliam5343  Thank you, I can see the validity in that. Now in the case of "deaf person," in the plural, my replacement might be "hearing impaired." Does that seem OK to you, even though it's still in the form of "impaired person?"
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  18. Sam Waldorf Well it may be true that pedophiles are born with this attraction, or become attracted for biological reasons. I have some empathy: suppose you started to have these urges? I have no sympathy for putting these desires into action, but there are people who are horrified they have the attraction. There was also the well known case of the man who had no history of pedophilia, but began to read child pornography after getting a brain tumor. When the tumor was removed, the pedaphilic urges went away, but came back a second time when the tumor grew back. Excellent lesson for those who think people just choose sexual attraction out a of a hat. Which is more or less the preposterous view of people who say "they choose it." No one chooses their deepest feelings and desires. They are just there. A fact of life that the "they choose it" crowd cannot comprehend. That's the real mystery. cheers
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  19. Sam Waldorf Except that there's no objective definition of sexual depravity. What's depraved to you might not be depraved to others. For example, in Canada, Britain, Germany, and I think Australia, and France, over 80% of the population accepts homosexuality. Increasingly that's moving in the same direction in other western countries too. So your views are neither objectively provable, nor shared by most people in these countries. The danger is stating these things as fact. There is no fact here. It's your sensibility vs mine and everyone else's. That's it. cheers
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  20. Sam Waldorf "depravity is also a synonym for perversion" Again, an invalid argument. Perversion means: "Deviating from what is considered right and correct" "What is considered" is by definition a subjective phrase.For example, in Canada, Britain and Germany, homosexuality is accepted by over 80% of the population. By their standards homosexuality is not perverse. That shows definitively and unequivocally that you are wrong: perversion is a subjective term, not an objective term.    cheers
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  21. Sam Waldorf " Biblical texts refer to it as abomination." Now if you want to talk perversion, the Bible has plenty of it - in my subjective view, that is. In Leviticus we find God allegedly indicating he is in favor of executing children who curse. Now, there's very little argument from anyone that killing children as a punishment for cursing is outrageous . So maybe you want to start with the Bible and ask yourself why you make an exception for God to espouse the killing of children, but not humans. I certainly hope you don't share God's alleged sentiment here. Do you? cheers
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  22. +Aaron Gottfried "being gay in the first place is the delusion." Just curious what causes a person such as yourself to state preposterous untruths such as this. Being gay is a reality for many. So for example, ask me about my past history as a gay man. There is no history of heterosexual attraction in my past. The same is true for countless other gay men and women. Yes, some people can go back and forth. They are known as bisexuals. Where have you been? cheers
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  23. +Willy Wheelbarrow "when some gay dude wants to change his sexual orientation"= Sexual orientation doesn't work like that. These are feelings that we have little or no conscious control over. People that switch from "gay" to "straight" are by definition bisexual. The myth here is that all bisexuals are equally bisexual at all times in their lives. Not true. Often a person in denial about their true feelings will "become" gay or straight. That does not mean everyone can change. The reality is that countless #s of gays have tried to change, without success. Unless you want to declare all of them liars, this shows rather definitively that not all gays choose to be gay. Why is this so hard for people to comprehend?
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  24. +Willy Wheelbarrow Thanks. Yes, I actually don't know for sure if we are born that way,. but as you say, if we aren't, this stuff occurs at a very young age, and by there time you are, say, 10, it's more or less fixed. But some people do seem to be able to change. I would say that's because they are probably bisexual to a degree; or because some people don't recognize or become aware of their bisexuality until they are adults. But like you say, I am making speculations too. cheers
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  25. +Bunny Jj I always find that when the going gets tough, the fundamentalists never see a debate to its conclusion. Never fails. cheers
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  26. There can be little doubt.
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  27.  @binodtharu1236  Bingo
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  28. Yes, it is a human life from the perspective of biology. But it's moral status is open to legitimate question.
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  29.  @raphaelj.3680  there you go!
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