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Comments by "cchris874" (@cchris874) on "Has Earth Already Crossed MAJOR Tipping Points? | Full Episode | Weathered: Earth’s Extremes" video.
I think they've given us a reasonable proof. Never before has it heated so suddenly. It's off the charts compared to any point in the past we have learned about. Every year we break the temp record. The ice is melting faster than we thought. It's unfolding even more quickly than even the doomiest of doomsayers have said. It's pure denialism. Even as the water level rises above his neck, Trump will still be in denial.
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@aoia691 Never happened this fast before, so that is pure speculation based on what??
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So by your logic, every 1.5 degrees means better and better. And when we get to 212F, we will have utopia. Go for it.
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@albertsez The climate has only begun to negatively affect the planet in a substantial way in the last 25 years or so. So what happened in the 125 years before that is largely irrelevant. It may be that the earth can absorb up to a degree or so of temperature rise. All the worry depends on how accurate the science is. I believe the science is accurate. The evidence is now so overwhelming. Do you follow the news? The alarming changes are happening even faster than the worst predictions by even the most alarmist folks. The rise in temp is accelerating. The ice is melting like crazy. The polar regions are experiencing heat waves unprecedented. There was a time to be skeptical. The doomsayers of the past, such as Paul Ehrlrich, were reckless alarmists proven wrong again and again. But we are way past that sorry phase of doom and gloom. The idea the next 1,5 degrees will be of no consequence is disproven by the science.
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@albertsez OK, thanks for that. But both things can be true. We can have flourishing with some degree of warming. But there has to be some degree of concern. It seems every day the news gets worse and worse. Personally, I think up to about 2015 or so, you could still make case for a climate crisis hoax, marginal though it might be. But since then the ice and the glaciers have been retreating rapidly. The prediction of a 2-3 ft sea level rise by 2100 is now totally out of date. 3-6 is more likely. Have you been following the news about "Greenland cracking more rapidly than ever? The West Antarctic situation seems to grow worse by the day. Do you have any concern that things might well be on a collision course with catastrophe?
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@albertsez What about Greenland and and Antarctica. The meting rates, the deep cracks, the Thwaites glacier/ice shelf. All lies? I hope you're right.
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@albertsez So do you see any need to reduce our carbon output? No effort whatsoever?
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@albertsez Me? I tended to be something of a environmental skeptic back in the days of Julian Simon. But lately I am no longer so skeptical. I cannot at the present time claim to have the for and against arguments at my immediate disposal. But the loss of glaciers and ice sheets constantly in the news has me very worried. If you'd care to, I'd like to test you claim that Michael Mann has lied. Kindly provide the lie, and I will look into it. cheers
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@albertsez Latest from the BBC "The world's glaciers are melting faster than ever recorded under the impact of climate change, according to the most comprehensive scientific analysis to date." Does that cause you any level of concern?
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Whatever it is, it's better than temp records broken every year, ice melting much more quickly. How much worse does it have to get before it registers in your brain?
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This isn't a natural cycle though. Never before has warming been this sudden. And it was all predicted as far back as the 1960s. They got it exactly right except for one thing. No one ever imagined it would happen this quickly. So you're totally and completely wrong.
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I would argue it was cruel all along. To bring a child into a world of massive suffering, childhood sexual abuse, rape, sink or swim, guaranteed death, etc. What are people thinking? It's s if people are in love with suffering. Of course I exaggerate a bit. But the point is, let's stop pretending the world is such a wonderful place.
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Well then what is the mechanism? The earth has gone thru many hot spells, but never ever this suddenly as far we know. Isn't it obvious? But even if it's a natural cycle, humanity is still deeply f-cked. That's what matters. Not who or what caused it.
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But to be totally fair, not even the greenest of the green predicted it would happen this fast. What's happened just in the last 10 years is off the charts worse than the worst predictions. Maybe we will find a solution, but not even Ray Kurweil and his singularity techno futurist followers have proposed any radical solutions. And of the 22 or so proposed climate repair schemes, all have been found to be worse than the disease itself.
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@aoia691 Fill me in on the last time warning happened this quickly. Thanks
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