Comments by "cchris874" (@cchris874) on "Joel Osteen: scripture clear on gay marriage" video.

  1.  @joshgonzales1599  Thank you for replying. "now who are we to say their justice system is incorrect." By the same token, who are we to say the bible's system is correct? Perhaps it isn't. "Like wise God has His own justice" Perhaps. But humankind is said to be made in God's image. By implication basic human decency is supposed to be concordant with God's decency. How else could it have any basic appeal to us? For example, supposing God willed us all to inflict on ourselves an agonizing death, with no escape-from-hell clause. Would you still be a believer? "If we study the word of God instead of just picking and choosing" That is as logical as saying we only "pick and choose" Hitler's bad side, the holocaust, rather than focusing on the entire context of the man, for example his economic gains, his watercolors, and his love for his children. It's the same as saying we should not judge a murderer just by cherry picking his dead victims. We should consider his kind side, the love for his parents, and his charity work. I think attempts to twist scripture's most barbaric examples into something loving and good have never worked, at least by my reckoning. For example, there would be no reason to buy a ticket or whatever they did back then, for the arc, had there been no flood to begin with. The flood was God's doing. It was nothing less than mass murder. A being of true Perfection and wisdom has no room for floods, rape, slavery and hatred. I can think of infinitely more inspiring words than those in Leviticus. To kill a cursing child? In what possible context does this indicate to you a Being of complete and total perfection? A perfect Being, by definition, should not have ANY ugly sides from which to cherry pick. Otherwise He is not perfect. Is he?
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  2.  @joshgonzales1599  All I ask or hope for in these discussions is some sense of humility, and you have been a very good sport. I do not pretend to know anything for sure despite my sounding maybe like a know-it-all. You are very respectful too, these issues will always be subject to controversy, even among biblical scholars. Thank you for sharing your thoughts !
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  3. No surprise there. Hatred is a big hang up for God. Perfect Beings aren't supposed to hate, are they?
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  4.  @joshgonzales1599  God too, for his sinful nature includes mass murder (the flood) slavery, stoning you to death for working on Saturday, and executing a cursing child. If God sees fit to exempt himself from basic human decency, then why should we care if gays also sin?
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  5.  @N-gineer  No different in principle than believers knowing for sure the bible is god's word. How can one know such a thing?
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  6. Indeed, the world changes as the scriptures remain stagnant, unable to free themselves from the cultural backwardness of its ancient authors. This is why most Christians just ignore the cruel and brutal parts.
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