Comments by "cchris874" (@cchris874) on "Law&Crime Network" channel.

  1. This is meant in a positive way, and in no way meant to deny the sorrow and suffering that will remain with the families on some level for life. But most victims don't have the benefit, if that's the right word, to have the whole world mourn with them. Isn't that what we all would wish to have? I hope in some small way that might possibly have helped to take some of the edge off of the pain they have endured.
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  2. Maybe so. But the way I see it, this trial violated the reasonable doubt principle. It assumes that it's crazy or far-fetched to suggest a suicidally depressed person might still be capable of free will, in which case Carter's words would have been no different than anyone else putting pressure on someone else to do a certain thing. So should we declare all suicidally depressed people as incompetent to make their own decisions? Should we assume they have no free ill at all? I don't know the answers to these questions. Just putting the question out there.
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  3.  @PowerToolsnPearls  Thank you. That reminds me to stay away from Twitter. Between them and Facebook, they are such a disorganized mess. But thank you for alerting me to these tweets.
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  4. I'm posting as I watch this at 7:47. Why would the mother bring Corey back to his father right after she was so concerned about abuse?
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  5.  @blmtrejureydepourtment5899  Thank you for your reply. Yes, I am trying to be balanced here, even if I turn out to be wrong. I think this is where it gets a bit tricky. My interpretation of the Georgia law is that immediate does not mean yesterday, or in this case, two days ago. It's also common usage. If the police ask you, "did you see X leave the scene immediately?" And you say, "No, I saw him in a house two nights ago." That meaning's pretty clear. It's a very clear distinction being made between immediate - as in seconds or minutes, versus an encounter some 36 hours before. That's how I think common sense would approach this.
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  6. I agree. Curious what you would propose for a jail term.
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  7. They haven't deleted. Most of the comments above as of now (2:50p ET) support death sentence. While it matters what the parents think, and we have to respect that, it doesn't prove that all decent and fair minded people should agree with them. Where did the crazy idea originate that all decent people must be pro DP?
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  8. Why not?
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  9. But if he's executed, he will never be able to experience his punishment.
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  10. Because there are good arguments on both sides.
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  11.  @Ifihadaclue  Where in this list doe it say self-defense is not allowed when committing a felony?
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  12.  @PowerToolsnPearls  Could you provide a source for the bragged about it, shared it on social media claim? Thanks
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  13.  @PowerToolsnPearls  Thank you, will have look.
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  14.  @PowerToolsnPearls  Very bad at Twitter. Just had to change my password, then went straight to Shaun King. If you would have a brief moment, how would I go about finding his tweets on this subject? I see he has over 21 thousand of them, and not seeing a subject search for him. Thanks.
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  15.  @Ifihadaclue  You'll have to explain this better. I looked up section 16-3-21. I'm not getting the connection you are trying to make. Who was committing a felony offense before the shooting occured?
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  16.  @Ifihadaclue  And what section of the law states that you cannot defend yourself when committing a felony. I'm not sure I see what you're seeing. Thanks
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  17.  @Ifihadaclue  ("2) Is attempting to commit, committing, or fleeing after the commission or attempted commission of a felony;" I get it now. You left out this important sentence. The question still remains, what is the appropriate punishment. Since there's no proof of premeditation, and no very solid proof of a hate crime per se, I always try to give the accused the benefit of any reasonable doubt. You have created a reckless endangerment, which I fully agree with. But do you completely forfeit your rights? I'm not convinced of it. I would say 5-10 years is much more appropriate than 40-life, if we go by giving the defendants the benefit of the doubt.
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  18.  @PowerToolsnPearls  Oops, I meant Instagram. When you get to be my age these platforms all sort of blend together.
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  19. Because society is not made a better place by doing that.
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  20. Well, until this country can get its act together and stop convicting innocent defendants of murders they didn't commit, we don't deserve to have the death penalty.
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  21.  @paulstone472  Of course no system is perfect, and inevitably there will always be unfortunate mistakes. But having watched and read about many cases, it's clear that as a country we haven't even come close to a good faith effort to make sure juries know basic principles, such as: never ever convict on the basis of a single witness; or the proper way to do photo line ups, and so on. I'd give our justice system a very bad grade when it comes to having a uniform system that follows basic protocol. Not even close.
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  22. That's one way to see it, absolutely. But is being in prison for life, especially if it ends up being isolation, better than being dead? Not so sure of that.
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  23. Because there exist good arguments both for and against the death penalty. It's a myth that all good and wise people should take your side.
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  24. More likely, he's a garden variety psychopath.
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  25.  @FloridaGiantsWereReal  Ask God. He allegedly designed us.
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  26.  @FloridaGiantsWereReal  "You think god turns out traumatized shooters..?" Yes. In the sense that He knew in advance all these things were going to happen, and that all the universe is His Creation. No one forced Him to create it, which He knew, and apparently approved, would lead to great evil. That was His choice. He can't be absolved of responsibility, any more than the maker of a defective product. That said, I don't deny the precise explanation of what makes a school killer tick is complicated. But there's little doubt that some serial killers are hardwired differently than you and me. This has been shown in studies where most people flinch when shown depictions of people being hurt. Psychopaths do not, indicating a different emotional circuitry.
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  27. Not all sensible people agree with execution. If you can only see your side, that says more about you than Americans.
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  28. Because its bad policy.
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  29. It's an outrage one one level. But it's not clear to me that being in a prison for life is better than not being here at all. Personally I would choose the latter.
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  30. So would you be happy in there for life?
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  31.  @autobestllc1812  I totally get it. One level that can be seen as an outrage. A violation of the Golden Rule. But fair minded and sensible people are split on whether the DP is a good policy. There are other issues to consider.
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  32. It's a good use of resources. Unlike a bullet, it ensures he spends a lifetime of experiencing punishment.
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  33. So he can experience a ruined life for a lifetime.
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  34. Agree. Except that it won't make the world a better place. And increasingly more and more people have come to think that torture is a very bad policy, and for some very good reasons.
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  35. Turns out you don't feel it with the chair, but you may suffer massively with lethal injection.
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  36. Because not all sensible people agree with you?
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  37. I agree in theory. But I think in practice slaughtering or torturing criminals legitimizes violence and may make society worse.
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  38. More likely he'll be murdered in prison.
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  39.  @blmtrejureydepourtment5899  It's legal to chase holding a fire arm.. . OK, But even if true, here's the problem. I would grant Travis the right of self-defense IF the shooting is cut off from what preceded it. The timeline is key here. The law states that pursuing a citizen's arrest requires immediate knowledge of a crime committed. Hard to argue that here since the only crime Arbery committed that day literally happened about two minutes before Greg saw him. Therefore the McMichaels did not have immediate knowledge of crime committed. So far, would you agree with this?
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  40.  @KevinP32270  That's George's side of the story. There were no witnesses to it. So we don't know if George retreated first. Do we?
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  41.  @blmtrejureydepourtment5899  One last point. The encounter two days before was not a witness to a felony, at least I doubt merely being in an open construction zone would qualify as a felony. That's the only time, I believe, that Greg witnessed him in any illegal activity.
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  42.  @KevinP32270  Thank you. I did not follow all of the tedious trial hours. But even if that were true, it doesn't show who threw the first punch or push. But even without this evidence, I would still be of the opinion there was probably some degree of reasonable doubt. Whether GZ is innocent or guilty there can be no question he's shown himself since to be a sociopath. Certainly no role model he.
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  43.  @KevinP32270  "i don't know G.Z. personally. but he did used self defense in this case." Yes, I know. I am reluctantly giving him the benefit of the doubt. But do footprints prove TM assaulted first? These are two separate questions.
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  44.  @KevinP32270  It's a good point, yes. But a man who has since revealed to the world his sociopathic character, good judgement is the last quality that comes to mind.
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  45.  @KevinP32270  Yes, it's my opinion. And a very good one. I don't pretend to be making a licensed medical judgement, but his constant run in with the laws since, and violent threats, do not seem to indicate a particularly mature character. Certainly no role model. Do you think his constant police encounters and threats of violence are an indication of a stable character?
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  46. Well you still have to lock him up or it sends the message it's OK to kill.
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  47. I support what the families want. But at the same time that's bowing to our dark side, IMHO. He seems too psychotic to even comprehend the meaning of such a punishment. Is the world made a better place by torturing our enemies?
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  48. What's life going to do? Allow him to experience his punishment for a lifetime. A bullet is the easy way out.
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  49.  @cool4ever329  Yes. It's all around bad no matter how you parse it. I find it hard to believe in God when these things happen. Not that I ever did, really.
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  50. ​ @emiliabonito2425  So am I.
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