Comments by "May L" (@MeiinUK) on "Could Facebook and Instagram Really Leave Europe?" video.

@FrVitoBe : Why don't you start talking about the tech employees that are Chinese and represent Chinese companies online... and why so many actual "VPN users", so to speak.. exists, and many write their "voice" in different jurisdiction and location ? Huh.... Isn't this technique a form of "voice throwing" from Country A to B ? Wow.... I thought that my mother's generation voice throwing singing days were over. I guess not, huh ? Now it is that cyber voice throw. The first time that I went to the States... I cannot believe the amount of "in your face infomercials".. It is 1) too intense, and 2) too much ? And now, I know what they want. They have literally decentralised the actual financial sector. That is what. Wanting Google to do debits and credit cards. Same with FB, wanting to create their own digital coins. Please ! Just create your own internal market ! You're a 300 MILLION existence ! Leave us alone in Europe !!!
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@mariuspuiu9555 : Somehow, I don't think that is how their technologies work.... and FB has basically a global undersea network, one of their own. Google is going to do the same as well. So yes, this is basically the end really. For most of us ! And we know what FB wants, they want to become the ultimate electronic bank. With libra as a coin. That is what they want. They can go and jump. All their cables point to Africa and then back round to Taiwan. I am quite certain that they use these advertising revenues, and connections to so many apps, and things.. cos if you click on some of those apps like deliveroo or google, or whatever... They tend to integrate together, and login. So this itself will charge and raise revenue for them. So yes, how else will they fund their own undersea cable round Africa ??? Always a case of stealing from Mary to give to Robert. Isn't it ?
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@mariuspuiu9555 : The fact that I live in Europe and the fact that I am openly speaking about these cases that violate the human rights act, privacy, user designs and the different use cases which a typical Brit, or a typical European would take this up seriously...states so much about you not understanding European laws. All you can think of is the damn data. You have totally lost it. I already specified that I have a good ten plus.. sorry a good fifteen years in the tech sector. Mostly with American products and tech, and architectures. So that I know how the technology works. And you just basically went over me on that note. The incompetence of both their internal members... As well as lack of EU inputs.... And not employing local citizens that grew up with these laws. Has really put this company at a disadvantage. But of course, you are ranting about the tech.... Seems to be brainwashed and deluded at best. If you cannot read into the written English on the implied meaning then you don't have an argument. And don't assume that your explicit non-disclosure is a get out of jail card here !!! And don't call me a "dude". I am so tired of the Americanism that is appearing in most people's lives in the UK, and the erosion of values here. When Debenhams went crazy on those sales techniques in those American style discounts. I just knew something was so wrong with the UK in that moment.... And with US meddling, is tearing apart the mere fabric of the Union.
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@Demun1649 : To be fair, never used MySpace at all. Not really interested. All the ones that I did use, are now gone mostly. And I started to dislike my friend who dragged me back to these kind of sites to begin with. She used to spam me with new things every once a while.. but hey... This is enough. It is quite disgusting what IS happening.. and enough is enough. It does not help when you actually stumble across a "group" that actually harasses you, and CONTINUE to harass you, like you know them well well. That group... which I previously mentioned has all of my university so called "friends", contacts, extended families and more... and I find that the world is a lot MORE dangerous now, than ever before !!!! You know life is weird.. when someone that comes across in front of you and blatantly lie to your face. " I know so and so and so of your family... and did you not just..." No, actually, I don't know who you are, and what you want. The end. Maybe it is time that the UK had actual licensed users and licensed companies that run certain type of softwares. Just like gun licenses... When people dox and stalk you, this is no longer funny.
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To me, this is a very simple... EU is made up of actually different "countries". And not "states". There is a BIG difference ! So.. it then means that, shouldn't America starts to think about whether to split and separate themselves into different "countries" as well, rather than to be a single state ? Would that not solve your issues? I love living in the UK. I love being in a country, and not be in a "state". Personally... I think you guys are crazies !!!! Weird too. Yeh sure, UK is very bureacratic, but at least there is a community.
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Download a copy of your profile... and then see if you can open it in a different format. Save it for yourself, and family only. It should be privvy to yourself, and no one else. Anybody wanting to use FB for commercial reasons, should've used softwares that ARE commercial in nature to begin with ? Just cos they are being cheap and cheerful, and want to skip the laws, between different countries, does NOT mean that the rest of us is not law abiding citizens !!! We have brexited... so yeh..... Selling to the UK is and should not be so easy any more, especially from the EU side. Or from EU to the US.
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@tudor-octavian4520 : Facebook has created a lot of liars overall and in general. What once upon a time was supposed to be social or promoting social cohesion.... Or creating a so called community upon using this so called interface can allow the other party to plot their worst against you, and to think about mentally disturbing things like how to rob your house, steal your bags, manipulate your life. The list goes on ! These kind of products basically cause further fear in people. They react with defensiveness. "Social anxiety" is the new term... I find that disgusting really.
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FB got greedy... what is its evaluations today ? Just read Meta's evaluation today. 443 billion ? I am not so sure. I think they have now basically incorporated different products. Is "meta" meant to be an entire global block, to compete with China ? Is the world meant to really be a singular "blob" online.. comparing to China ? When must we fight ! When I see unrelated nonsense in FB... that does not reflect real life in Europe. You kind of know know that.. this is genuine and real technical depersonalisation warped zones. As if one's existential crisis is not already enough. There has to be repeatable ones at that to boot ! No wonder Cleggy leggy want a piece of this pie really... but I did not think that China has reformed to such a stage, so why are we relying on a single "platform" ?! No wonder India blocked their botty.
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Kids now have "guns" to protect themselves in real life. Based on what? Was it based on what they read online? Why are they trying to protect themselves? Even as an adult, I cannot protect myself. Can you reassure them that they would be fine ?
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@JTV : Click on sort by newest and please read my comments here. Thanks. (And I used to work in the tech sector, so I know what is going on as well, and how they have modelled themselves is actually NOT legally compliant !!!!) Kids read something nasty online and cannot protect themselves. And then in real life, they take an actual weapon to arm themselves, cos they expect that the real life people may do the same and exact thing as that has happened on online. Understand ? So yes... the brainwashing effect is a REAL thing ! Despite you not assuming that this effect CAN happen !
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@Marius Puiu : Then you are implying that FB actually harvests more data than the mere simple "meta datas" from a simple profile, but literally sync you to other various videos, websites, articles and more ??? Is that how come so many "data companies" harvests people's privacies? Conversations. Recordings, trigger backwards their phones and download more files ???!!! There was an actual PC Pro mag which wrote about this issue... and how it linked to the different d/l that FB has done on people... I guess you have not seen this, right ? Have you ever used FB and afterwards, you actually get hyperventilation ? I have had to block a lot of people over the years. Especially the ones that harasses me, a lot. And this is BEFORE those people who appears in my real life workplace, and then comes and harasses me on that too !!!! (F!) I also feel so bad, and had to do a lot of security settings, to filter our my families from harassing my colleagues too online... I don't think that they need to be dealing with my families, or has to literally KNOW how to perform, or what to say. Some conversations are private, and it ought to STAY private !! Back in the days when people are not being monitored, one was indeed free. Free to cry, if one likes. Free to be angry, if one likes. Free to self sabotages, if one likes too. And that itself is a FREEDOM. I could kill myself if I wish. I could literally do what I like. And yet... nowadays, you cannot. AI does not know that,... that man you left on your email, was someone who tried to murder you before. AI or FB filters/admins do not know that you knew that politicians when you guys were at universities.. and that she blackmailed you and bullied you for money. FB does not know that... you are allergic to certain types of food. Or maybe they do know... but forces you to interact and to "be kind" to somebody that is selling poisonous food to you any way ? But FB does not like that.. cos it wants the best sales. The best prices. FB cannot see your foot has blown up like a balloon... FB doesn't even know.. or maybe they do want to recommend... anyway... otherwise, you will fall into the "hate" category. FB does not know when to back off from somebody being online.. Do you realise this ? They don't know it. They don't know how to.
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@HenryLoenwind : You are speaking in a way that expects global social mobilities TO exist and TO happen.. Can you see it happening? I cannot myself. Even with FB and Google and so forth, they cannot even decide on how locals behave and protect their own interests. But instead, they make others fight like cats and dogs... Is this fine? No, it is not fine. It is not even right. It is sadistic ! When a publication is not a simple view of an angle, but it has TEETHS... and it BITES BACK... In that moment... how should one react ??? I had always thought that social media has made "celebrities of us all", but what if you do not want to be a celebrity ? And we are NOT being paid to be celebrities, or artists.. and to have our faces, and details.. to be targetted by around a whopping 2 billion people !!!! And yes, doxxing is a real thing, and we know that. Stalking is a real thing, and we know that too.
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@mariuspuiu9555 : And us Europeans don't give a darn about a "social" media.. there is nothing social about perversion. Sorry but there is not ? Time to give up those shares, huh ? As the world enters into ESG... and you do not care about the shareholders, and the population? Why not just create your own meta world in the USA ? And be done with ? Why drag us in Europe into your messy world as well ? Don't do that, and don't not expect us not to react! There IS no discussion here. Those points that I made... I made it with 1) life experience, and from the user's perspective, and 2) from an industrial point of view AS well... and as it happens, I used to work in tech sector, so I KNOW how the tech stack works.... and why they have gathered data that managed to leak through and out of Europe as well. There is nothing wrong if Europe wants to protect itself. Sorry, but there is not ? The example of my mother being doxxed in HK is already one and I live in the UK. I am sure that FB's undersea cable did not reach HK... so where and how did it reach there? Via Google's networks ?? You tell me. How come my mother could be harmed this way, in direct view as I responded to that local TV channel ? And then the subsequent third party issue like my lost credit card... how come since I indirectly joined amazon prime, suddenly... my mobile phones numbers were accessible and then money was taken out of my account ? Without my approval or my knowledge ??? Your assumption that, people have always had authorisation.. but in truth.. their gadgets were a dumbed down gadgets, and they have NEVER been connecting the dots before, WITH approval !!!! That is why !!! so I now find all the links and the different companies that accesses my info and data ? Plus now I have a new mobile phone that SHOWS me such details ?! Crazy !!! No wonder that, I made a private comment to one cafe owner, only for the next "followed" cafe owner to spam me with that exact food item. I have since blocked such cafe from accessing my FB. And I have also blocked my phone from updating. I will at some point, dumb down my phone as well, and block them. Or to use a different non-advertising phone.. as well as delete all datas from third parties !
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@mariuspuiu9555 : Third parties also means FINANCIAL data, you DO realises this, don't you ???? With so many "Google Pay" or "Google Transactions"....With FB being held back on their creation of the libra coin... they literally now integrates their product, into the financial transactions of other companies that embeds into their process flow. That is what is going on.
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@mariuspuiu9555 : You do not care ? Then why should I, as a consumer, care about a company, not following company laws? Not my problem. Deal with it. Why am I in this discussion point? If even I, as a consumer, do not use it. Then let it be. Just get out of Europe. Simple as. Don't try and force people to behave and act and use your product, when people refuses to do so ! Such a poor loser really. I don't know why you are having a goat really.... Companies come and go really... This is the nature of a free market. So deal with it.
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@PatrickButterly : Am I really talking to myself here ? How come these American users, upon hearing that a blue chip is being criticized, that they would defend it ? And yet, do I need to write explicitly... "I am dying here because of Facebook." What will literally make them "get it" ? I find that bizarre. A typical Brit would 1, reassures you, 2, talk factually what and why, and tell you how to defend yourself... A typical American breadcake would really just go over your head and really marginalise your argument rather than to accept defeat. I call this invasion.. and they expect me to kowtow towards them cos all American products are fantastic ? Insult the customer and not to allow the customer any more good feeling over the service or the product is just going to lose you a buyer !
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@mariuspuiu9555 : You, my friend is deluded. I am not forcing anybody, I am voicing my feelings and my opinions. To which as a citizen living in the UK, I am absolutely entitled to do just that. So please sod off. As a woman, I don't normally swear... For someone online to provoke me to swear when my personal security is threatened you really have a damn nerve to take the other side of the argument. First of all, I don't want my data to go outside of the EU. For privacy, you don't think that the increase of crimes is a thing ? As an ex- systems analyst, I have seen so much that.... by that I mean the entire global network. You live in a tiny small country, does not have the competence to defend yourselves, so you want my data to be " protected" in the USA ? My God woman... You are deluded. When the riot kicked off in HK.. my details were able to be scraped into the HK news channels via Facebook. Mirrored sites ? I don't think so. You obviously have no idea about the tech or the architectures. This is what they mean about third party, you breadcake. You are obviously out of your depth in this thing.. and yes, I want European laws to be in control in this aspect, whether this is due to political reasons or prosecution purposes or whatever it may be. The fact that such tech products exist has already indirectly created now petty crimes in general and criminal cases... Which you love to ignore.... Never mind anything more sinister. I won't further comment online on their architectures.. but I am sure that if you worked in the sector.. based on what I have written.. you could have read between the lines and build up the mental picture of the architecture already.. if you are indeed competent in this area.... I didn't want to write something to be published that will ruin this sector or for anyone else to take a stab. I think what is said is enough. That is if you do not wish to write a sop to show the criminals how to steal your home....
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@PatrickButterly : Another fruitcake, I see. Ok, I want to ask you this question.. I presume that you reside in the USA. SO.... you say that, it is fine to have FB. So let's say that a tiny small ecommerce, is selling to you, a CD player. That is modified and customised in Europe. Say. You could get one that is around 10 dollars from your local Walmart. However, this one is quite polished with some European oak, and detailing. And you like the look of it. But it is going to cost you around say 100 pounds. Which makes it around 100 dollars. (Let's take it to the current 1 to 1 ratio.) Are you, or are you NOT going to buy it and get it shipped from Europe ? Genuine question. I want to know the answer to that.... Please understand that, I wrote "systems' analyst". I did not write "Systems Administrator". I wrote "analyst". I do not think that I need to use American proprietary terminologies to make myself be understood.
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Because Nokia has done a deal with China, that is why. And they see Facebook as an extension of the chinese market. Cos it was originally seeded by Li Ka Shing ! That is what. And why. And Facebook literally has laid down subsea cables across Africa.. really... ready for their next expansion / blackmail.... Whatever comes first really ! Of course, Finland and Scandinavians want to know what is going on... but in doing so, you are putting the entire group and block at risk here ! For someone that has some heritage in HK... I was so shocked to see that google sponsored some of the actual research in Mao's old haunts... and his hometown..... Shocked to the core.
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Is that what happened ? OMG... and that is why my actual laptops and everything has been spammed to bits. And why did this happened ? Is it cos the shareholders are the likes of China ? Cos Li Ka Shing holds the shares. Do not tell me that, FB is now hosted on an Alibaba server in the USA ? Or has California now become an actual Chinese state ???? I want to know ! And that is why my comment in Chinese proverbs have been deleted. And why all of this hoo hah, about HK etc.. happened as well... This is the same tactic as before... when Yahoo email servers were "sold" to China... and then gazillion people's details and datas were broken.. from this point onwards. And this is why... so many actual people's details.. were up for grabs ??? And yet, who says that the details are now NOT going to be monetized? It IS being monetised now ! I have seen stupid things like..."buy this DNA kit, and I shall tell you your fortune" ! BS !!! Amazon have started to sell "mystery kits" that is based on YOUR details that you have posted online before. So yeh... use ALL your info, tie is up, and sell it back to your face. This is absolutely diabolical ! I know what they want... they want to sell your kids... all about you, or all about your families.. and that is why, I found my ex' work details and data. spammed in front of my face in my LinkedIn, which I went hysterical over. Cos he was the guy who tried to murder me once in the M1 motorway... and yes, thank YOU America for causing me further harms. And guess what.... my mother also had an actual hemorrhage/stroke when I told her what has been happening in my life in recent years.
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Basically, US has cloned all your machines, laptops and PCs from before.. and gathered it together.. and is now repackaging all of this... and to resell back to you... "for a small amount of money". I thought it was surreal when I have seen a lot of British movies... made, based on many things from social media. The scripts, the lines, the plots.... And now... all of this, is sold across to the USA. I bet you that, so many movies, from the likes of Netflix... and more.. Is going to be based on those as well. Is that why they want the AI to be for ??? To then sell "packaged info" to you? And Facebook even dared to ask this dumb question..."what do you want to do with your data when you die" question... That came from PC Pro.. I want my family and my nephews to know me the person, and not my online past, and yet, I don't want them to know my work details !!!! THAT is what !!!!
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I did not know that. There are actual data centres in the UK too you know. Private ones. So I don't get why they have done this. If this is not to monetize their next set of project in order to throw it back at your face, then I don't know what is. No wonder my FB have been acting kind of odd as well.. and PC Pro, which I thought was an actual UK magazine.. propped up and spammed me and asked me "what do you want your data to do, when you die" ??? I want it to go to the grave with me. Cos life is meant to be for the living ??? Why ? What are you doing to do with my data ? Scare my next gen? Scare my family ? Ruin their perception and ideas of their family tree? I really wanted to say "Go to H !"
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@Demun1649 : Oh my gosh.... No wonder I have been spammed a LOT ?! Like, I have been through a few phones already. And also, my Sony died.... and then I bought a new laptop, and that was also "died" as well. They said that it was a malware. I doubt that it is. I bet it is being blocked. My accounts have also been blocked too. At first, I did wonder whether this is related to some weird SE Asian thing about bitcoins, and digital coins. There is an overlap here somewhere. Cos I was indeed dragged into all of this when I got my first chromebook, it scanned my entire drive... That freaked me out. And ever since then, I cannot separate my different accounts, cos I could before. I never used to have an actual 4G phone before, and definitely not 5G. I hate my current Nokia phone... that freaked me out too when I got blocked. This is all to do with their cloud migration which is now basically locking it down to machines and gadgets. I keep thinking to myself.. how is this possible.. I am spending like 1 - 2k under like... 5 years on gadgets alone ? I didn't see this one coming. Was not aware of the overlapping changes. What I do dislike is that, I can see MORE things online now.. which is freaking me out... Before I am sure that my FB is locked to a small subset of data, and not to be able to see the entire world. Right now, I can see exactly ALL and EVERYBODY.... I do not know if this is related to my higher spec machines and AI embedded within it. I certainly could not see them before. This freaks me out a lot.
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@Demun1649 : Oh my God... I have just done back reading... FB has been hacked already !?... "All 533,000,000 Facebook records were just leaked for free." !!! How come I did not know this ! It's stayed out of the main media !!! - 2019 !!! Just caught up on more reading... Seriously... as the tech world is kind of consolidating as well... These companies.. Just.. Seriously. FB has.. I am sure that they are not hiring the techies... Not really. Cos I cannot believe the stories that I am hearing here about their data losses and things like that. Had no idea really. Maybe cos I was "filtered out " !!!
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I won't cry if FB leaves Europe. I realised how these social media giants are interconnected. So... let it be. Why did the presenter stated that it may become "federated" ? What does that mean ? Can't FB become an actual and literal "multi-national" ??? To have different business units in different countries. Or are tech companies, outside the scope of this? I don't get that.
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They don't literally have to leave Europe per se. But they do need to change their business model as well, and start to diversify. Nobody appreciates being harassed. Life is tough enough as it is.... we don't need these kind of technical experiments. I remember putting filters in my network, and grouped people by uni, by work, and by family. Until they decided to upgrade, and then I lost it all ! It was not good when one of my peers, saw my family discussion about a group holiday, and then he butted in,.... and made a comment. This alienated my ENTIRE family ! (And this kind of issue, is not the one kind only... there has been a lot more too ?)..... Sigh. And I thought that people could leave work at work as well... but they don't.
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By Third Party.. it is sold to be monetised.. and to be made money with. Some people assume that it is for security purposes, but it is not ! That is the whole point here really. I rest my case. Always some fruitcakes that assumes that you would be protected....
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And FB cannot hire enough administrators or censors to check them all either.... and even then... because they cannot, it will resort to some kind of algorithm to check as well.. Which is where you will fail as a customer, as a user, as a client. Cos it won't go your way. Each country has its own laws, and each region as well. So if they are so specialised, then how come FB so not change their interfaces to match their requirements ?? They don't. And that is half the problem to begin with ! Exactly how are they making money by using your data and profiles ? Facebook: "We can reach a lot of people FOR YOU. There are at least 2 billion people.... on our platform." Business Owner: "So I just want to reach 10,000 people. Is this possible?" Facebook : "Yes, this is possible... we have many businesses that have very successful rates in reaching their targetted customers !" (But he did not say that.. there are at LEAST 100,000 "successful businesses" that made it on FB. And then, there is around a whopping.... 200,000 + that failed, while trying to capture a market share.... and where did their money go to ? Guess.) Why are we in a lock down ? How many businesses caved in the first lockdown ? Then the second one ?
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@Steven Strain : The fact that the EU is not a single nation, it is an entity that incorporates multiple countries. It is not a country with multiple states like the USA. If I was a CEO, upon watching this video, I would be sleepless for days !!
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When "Schrems " was mentioned before.. I had absolutely no idea.. what the heck is going on. I do now though.
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The lawyers stated that they have no work to do... Is this not a good opportunity for the Bar to really have a good go ? Bring back the Law Lords !!!!!! Being part of the so called EU ruined us. Really, it ruined us so badly that it is not funny.
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@foji-video : By popular, don't you mean that FB has not given those companies some royalties or a cut of the share of the business, so that they can be more integrated? By "popular", don't you mean that MS has not literally already spammed... and forced their ex-customers to render their machines useless... and basically killed off that node, and therefore forces people to buy idiotic chromebooks and to "shape the internet" and force you to become the same pool of people ? Fighting one another ? Ever since this lockdown, I have seen many killing sprees in my local region.. despite police daily running round filming... To justify what ? To justify that there was no killing? And yet there has been an increase in stabbings, but the police takes no action. Why ? Graffities have increased exponentially. I guess this is NOT on the SAME level as the current videos that is being filmed, isn't it ???? Many government uses FB now as well... and some would go as far as to stalk their own constituents as well. Especially if you DON'T even vote for them !!! When your local MPs KNOW what you think from FB... what is there left over TO see, or to HEAR ??? Or to READ ? Should there NOT have been an area of impartiality and that for you to gain a seat, that you should STILL do your promotional rounds any way ???? You know that life is bad, when the same group of cabbies, run the entire city, and that their money-laundering ways, literally allows them to connect with one another, so much so that, even national level powers are forcing people to take note. So now, the politicians are the local businessmen... as well as the local... FB "advertising" people... They sit in the 1) political tier, 2) the business tier, 3) and some legal tiers as well.... So why should I not have euthanasia on the offer ??? I think I deserve this, imho.
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Having realised everything that has been going on. This one, I blame Ireland !!!!
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@johnhobbes2268 : For their government and army for security reasons, yes. If we have a trade deal or something like that. For their commercial selling and to manipulate you and to cause you loss of life, loss of opportunities and loss of earnings ? No ! You know that eeriness and creepiness starts to sink in when random strangers basically invade in your own civic duties and your private life as well. And HR doesn't do their jobs properly or reprimand these employees in such companies either. If this was in the UK.. if you harassed your colleague in work time in scope and situations that are not related to work is already a prosecutable offence already. Never mind this kind of.... Manipulation. Bring back the typical IT dept. For the average corporation and let them create the internal polices. The so called esg remit is supposed to control and indentify this aspect.. and judging the comments.. you cannot see it, can you ? An "online" space is now classified as "public". So my citizenship is useless online? You know something is not quite right when.... Some idiots of a UK citizen used an American petition sites and that they refuse to use the UK government's provided petition site. And then the issue goes to the UK media circuit and not directly to the UK central government in Westminster to be debated. You know know we lost that "tech fight" already..... I thought that was odd. When the Brexit situation happened and people did not realise which system connects to where..... Facebook is not the country!
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And where do you think that these so called "third parties" data ends up in ? Is it not China ? And where do you think that, these "tech workers" come from ? Is it not China? How come, these "FANG" companies can expand SO quickly, when MS couldn't way back when ? Who helped them rise so quickly ? You tell me ! Even just getting a single machine, can build around 20 million mobile phones PER annum ! And then build and rebuild the entire mobile gadget that takes over your phone, your tv, your gaming consoles. Consolidating different brands, and their techs, into a SINGLE company ????? Without fights from those companies ?! Isn't that an actual monopoly ????? I have a lot more respect for MS or Apples... and in those days, the UK or the EU, was NOT affected politically by these companies, in fact... we were not that much deregulated either.. Even since the crash.. how can your earnings get lower and lower and lower over the course of time ??? How is that even be possible ? Please tell me how that is possible ? And yet, these companies can afford to build their billion dollar buildings? And provide FREE food for their own employees? HOW is that actually BE possible ???? When I see many many MANY small and medium businesses struggling... day in day out.. in the UK.. only for these so called "gadgets" to wipe off the face of the earth for previous generations of techs, which were secure.. and took them down as well... Without impacting their bottomlines.. and not, these kind of companies, are not being prosecuted. At all ! How can a mobile phone, is not a mobile phone? So does FB actually pay for these telecom lines and their leases then ? Being an actual phone and everything? No ? Do they pay a percentage of their revenues to the landlines of those companies ? Does Google, also pay a small percentage to THEIR suppliers as well then ? No ? Don't they pay advertising, or sub-regional taxes, to that region's government FOR generating taxation and sales IN that regions? So they don't even apply that region's tax % ? Why ? Isn't this illegal ? So why would this taxed sales figure, be that low, and how can Google afford to NOT pay the VAT tax rates in the UK for UK sales ?
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They don't pay tax per click, and per sales transaction, but they decide on per contract sales figures? How is that possible ??? When each person is a taxable person here? do we need to raise this to the highest court, in order to get them to genuinely classify their sales figures to be accurate ????!!! So when does an advertising agency, that advertises, but the advert does not end up in a sales situation ? So you can advertise as much as you like, but there is ZERO sales? HOW is that an actual sales ? It is not a sales ? So then isn't this itself fraudulent ????? Even when making a movie, the end sales of that movie, on CD or DVD is and has ended up as an actual sales. Taxable as well. VAT compliant. So how does Google manage to do this for so long but it ends up as NO sales ? What is this? The financial market? Oh ! I guess this is why there is deregulation now, and that "Google Pay" exists ! And FB wants to be the "coin" ?!!? So soon we shall pay by tokens ?! What many people have done over the years in terms of tech, is to buy these stupid equipments that have costed them an arm, and a leg... and in itself.. it has basically crippled them no end. I figured out that, even a mere 2G phone back in the days which costed around 200 pounds, ended up as an actual 300,000 yuans back in 98. I want to know, when will these companies basically give back to society, or to return that credit back into the economy, that is what I want to know. MS now "licenses" sooooo much.... We live in an actual rentier-capitalism. When will this end ??? No pension ? No life ? Poverty on the increase? Rising debts in the housing sector ??????
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@blankblank7016 : I don't think that they are... especially if you use a fine comb and comb through their entire company. The way that they are structured, and how they work their companies. Most global companies, MNCs... are often structured in a way that makes sense, to their different operating units, and this is also a continuous process as well. Whenever there is a law or a policy that comes out, MNC should jump. That had always been the way, and it shall always be the way. I don't get why these tech companies are exempted. Either they break up. Or that they need to reform their structures. Why is it a big issue that FB do not leave their datas for EU citizens within EU's boundaries? That had always been the way before, for many other companies before FB. Did they think that they were the only ones ? Did they assume that, just cos when they appeared on the scene, and being the "EU" (rather than different countries, and their jurisdictions), that they COULD do what they like ? Sorry, but they cannot... FB have caused a lot of harms in my life. It allowed me to see the street that my mother lives on, and then, I commented about the rioting in HK. Next thing I know, the local police showed up a case near my mom's area. Coincidence? No. FB also allowed me to be used, and doxxed as well. Stalked online. Somebody stole my data from another site, and then posted this in a group when I was asking for advice. Coincidence ? (In that SAME group.... there was one guy who sexually harassed me when I was in my 20s. Ignored, I never reported this incidence.) Second, another a nasty guy who owns some kind of data farm, or website also actually touted me and threatened me with libel before, when he was created a consolidated "racists" group... full of "British Chinese".... And then there were also threats as well coming from some random Vietnamese Chinese.. whom I do not know.. and is threatening me personally. All of this, is also done, in front of my ex-uni friends.. and university friends, in front of my cousin, in front of my aunties.. and in front of my local community. HEY... talk about "naming and shaming" ! In front of my boss' son AS well.... Small world ? I guess so !!! And there are no cyber security/admin people around, and this is also in front of some local chinese MP that did nothing ? This is also on top of some guy, who randomly tried to date me as well... and I realised that HALF those people, WERE from the SAME dating apps... Which implies that HALF those people were cheating their spouses as well ? And this is also, in front of THEIR children AS well.... They run a so called magazine.. but none of these people, realises that, their datas are also stolen, and sold by a few. A few "media types" were within the group as well.. who yelled in high voices long time ago about "bad behaviours"... But in truth, they sold these datas, and allow different people to target each other and their businesses ?? I think that is hostile, don't you think? One workplace, I saw how people used the online opinion site, to degrade their competitors.. in order to raise their own business and profit, and profile... Why are we in this lockdown to begin with ? You can guess really. This is not including I was assaulted a few times already... and have been inside a hospital for at least 3 times under 5 years...
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There is NO way that "social media" can mimick real life behaviours.. or that is what the law decides on. Most see publishing as publishings. The end. It is supposed to spread info. Not to spread personal lies about others ! Half those people help others money launder as well... despite so many are actually without passports, and some have been raped in order to stay in the UK. Where ARE the police huh ?! Where exactly ARE they ???? I also had security settings as well, to differentiate the different social groups. They are not meant to see one another, and this was destroyed. My personal network was destroyed. My young kids in my extended family and intimacies were destroyed... I got blocked by my extended families.. and then my mother gets harassing messages across the globe !!! All the way in HK. Do people realises their actions actually !!! Private calls are not private any more. What more does FB want ?! So you cannot actually talk to your own mother actually ??? In private ? Without your BOSS knowing that you ARE talking to her? Can she NOT tell you of her fears and my fears either ? So that she finds the strength to live another day ? Does she NEED to see her daughter's photos plastered ALL over the internet !!! For her to be sexually harassed by at least around 20 odd people !!! That is SO funny ! (Not.)
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@SK-zi3sr : FB also allowed a lot of fake scams to happen as well. Financial ones. And personal ones as well. Slavery and servitudes have increased too. So called "companies" but without proper registrations. People selling, and buying, without even registration of a company, or even considered as a sole trader. People just go abroad, find some idiots, and then scam them, and then leave the UK. Or Europe. I think you need to wake up and smell the coffee to see how much it has NOT added value to Europe at all.... Or maybe you refuse to see this, if anything. FB also allowed the NHS Employees to gather in groups and revolted AS well ? Collectively ??? And that was when there was a time that the entire country should not have a streamlined process. Some were basically contractors.. and how did the UK got here ? They basically decimated the sector as well... and indirectly influenced politics in such a way that it didn't even make sense ! Why would you shoot yourself on your own foot ? FB also adds to some hysterias as well... and blow things up, when it should not. And children are starting to stalk one another, and filming people, without their permissions, cos they are "scared". And yet, adults are often berated down to their tears... this HAS to stop !
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@Madman Curie : FB also do not hire people from the EU either. Which is and was once upon a time, illegal to expect "to hire outside, but without papers or visas"..... How much does FB complies with European laws and culture? So FB can "threaten" and this is "okay" ? I do not classify this as "surveillance economy", I call it "perversion companies".... Just like in the beginning of the internet, when the US connected with HK as well.. and at that time, there was also a "chinese" Silicon Valley... aka "Shenzen".. and those people were already selling images, and porn videos of American women and citizens... and blasted ALL over their own shops. I wonder whether the average American knew of this situation ? And even now, South Korea has added their own "sexual harassment laws" in online gaming.... About time really ! So many women have killed themselves, based on indignities... If UK offers euthanasia, I want this option now. I think I have paid enough taxes to warranty this luxury. About time as well. Cos I cannot take this kind of junk any more. I really cannot ???? UK already has an online Stalking Laws... and I don't see even FB have this kind of option for the British users at all !!! Should they NOT create the software FOR that localisation AND their local laws if anything !!!! Why is this so HARD to understand !!!!! If "social" media should reflect that of the real life. Should I not be able to "click" on a button, and send a message to the police force to let them know of the situation and let them handle it !?
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@wiseandstrong3386 : We live in Europe, why should I kowtow towards FB? And not for FB to follow laws and guidelines? I will at some point too, don't worry about that. But this important point remains though !
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@Madman Curie : I was born in the UK, so yes, English IS my first language, what is your point ? I am talking about privacy, and FB has no control of this. I worked in the tech sector before, so I know how those networks work and why. FB is not doing anything to circumvent this at all... Same thing happening, but with different companies?
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@tudor-octavian4520 : If we see the internet and the social media generation as a form of cyber warfare .. Zuckerberg is actually Hitler ,and he is unlikely to be prosecuted and that human rights laws have been violated over and over again. I hope that he will be prosecuted one day. This so called products is not fit for purpose. Just like the early days of Google snapping everyone's homes and houses. The increase of crime was high after people knew how to find that address or house... And steal their things. The cases of someone trying to squat in someone's house and then dared to create fake ads to sell to another third party did happen. FB and Google allow such sophisticated crimes to occur so easily ? I bet these kind of "use cases" were never considered, right ? And then now you talk about cyber securities... That is already too late.
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@Micfri300 : FB market place is flooded with wish or Alibaba junk. Just excesses and overstocks from China that somebody cut off their contracts for. For around a good ten years now... I have seen the same products across around eight labels... I knew something was wrong... This is the sad thing which we see the demise of in Europe. Amazon is just a holding place. Each trend will have trend setters.... And here we are. The entire market is destroyed. Before the formation of the EU, a company can be sued for causing loss of business to their neighbours, and one could also block the opening of that company. That was competition laws. And now ? Now the politics are ruined, the same street has around the same sets of businesses along the entire high street. Lots of studies had been said about this. More tins of food are produced. Standard of living has dropped a lot ? I classify this as a cyber invasion.... Not an increase in productivity. There is more to life than just shopping !
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@Micfri300 : Ragazzo... I have heritage from HK, when it was part of the Commonwealth, and I know of how fast Shenzen increased its production in terms of tech. I have seen how many so called factories that opened overnight from inside China. And they took away both the manufacturing from SE Asian countries. Why did Thailand crashed? Why did Japan crashed? Why did Malaysia also crashed in terms of their financial sector too ? And also HK as well ??? Why did that happen ? And we have seen people running in between these countries FOR their life !!! Trying to both stabilise their own life, AS WELL as... trying to anchor their economies !!! Why are you selling me things which I don't need, and that I do not wish to want any more? I can get a lot of goods, directly asking my mother to buy for me, for like 2 pound... when I know that I have to pay around for like 60 pounds here. The "lie" is already out of the bag. You DO realise this, don't you ? And I no longer see value in those kind of things. There is a large ex-commonwealth communities in the UK, who buy and sell... at a lot more reasonable price. And they know it too. And it is not that Europe, or Italy joined the trade with China... Well, Italy, you DO have an issue really ! Cos you believed in their one belt one road BS lies. And FYI.... Facebook was seeded with money from Li Ka Shing... Do you know who he is ? And I worry about what his son is doing more than I know what he is doing. And we know what he has spent his money on in the UK. And we know exactly who he has bought our Greene King as well in the UK.... and why he has also bought out the Battersea Power station too. We KNOW what his investments ARE in the UK !!!! You guys in Europe must think that we are idiots in the UK. Like really an idiot.... And all these Americans here... I will say this much. "STOP with the lies too ! And please don't give us lies, when Alibaba has already built like TWO mega big data centres in the USA !!!!!"..... There are far more traitors in the US, than there are people who wants liberalisation for China. If Taiwan takes back control. I won't bat an eyelid. And it just came to light to me that... when the financial crash happened in the USA... It was the Sung's family bank, that was prosecuted ?!?!!.... And now Li Ka Shing's cousin is the next HK SAR's governor ? How apt. It was so right for Li Ka Shing to really bollock his son... He has done really a global injustice, to the world. Like really.
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When the Barclays, and the Irish do not support the Queen...
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@HenryLoenwind : Then move to a large city. Whereby people CARES. I use FB to keep in touch with my close family and my friends, and even that was taken away from me. and then when family intervenes with my work, that was the end of that stick really. And then FB loves doing what it loves doing, which is to follow and abide by their money... it created those profile BS. And those relationship BS. To do what with ? It ends up being or supporting SEO companies like Google, to string up together all your connections, and relationships as well. That is what is has done basically. Despite whether somebody wrote something, or was in an escapism... And I am sure that is going to be used to accuse so many people of ill will as well !!! THAT my friend, is what is the most scary thing of all. I am beginning to understand why people, like women... were crying at that Wade case.... Like literally crying their eyes out. I know you guys were blunt in the states... and some may live in a harsh environment or life... but still... Don't drag the rest of us down the pan with you !
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