Comments by "May L" (@MeiinUK) on "Jimmy Lai: Hong Kong pro-democracy media tycoon's trial begins | BBC News" video.

@peterwong8401 : the problem today is that, the elders who sat in those areas.. are ruling, with a few of their own worldview only. Cos they lived through it. BUT... and however.. if some areas run on their own accord, nobody knows or cares. Which is what it is indeed happening. So... The issue is that, these elders, trying to be dragged into the actual "global".... world... (but they are not educated in those areas of foreign affairs at all).. they don't know whose side to take ? Cos they don't know who wronged who first. It does not matter what they want.. but give a chance and a moment, to think about those histories.. cos you cannot neglect those countries' own histories as well... and then do utter damages.. which is also going to take you down too. i.e. What if they deliberately take the wrong side to the situation, and it eliminates an actual entire country? (One of the very few remaining race, in the world ???)..... People assume that, because we are in a 8 billion world for now.. we should indeed not forget our heritages.. at all... It takes time to build a civilisation and to keep it continuing too...
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@TaronWong-e6w : Chow was a loyalist. Cos he supported Hans Chinese. Cos Britain allowed non-Hans Chinese to enter the home turfs of some Hans Chinese. And those lands were under Imperial edict. This is why it was important that, nobody outside without the right authorities to enter. Cos it was family land, as far as they are concerned. Anybody trespassing is seen as an outsider, and by Tang Code.. they could be killed. And have their heads chopped off. In fact, this is what happened to some innocent individuals... and Britain did not allow the correct people to be checked. i.e. The relatives of those in HK.. were and had their heads chopped off.. when they fought that their family members were being bullied. So then they were killed. The trespassers did not know that, they were recruited by the British... and did their deeds. This is why that also kicked off even MORE events as well.... (and these details, only recently are surfacing actually)... Which I find atrocious. This is on top of.. or not including... foreign traders etc.. Of different races etc. (And then also the religious entities too.) Also not including the Dutch dispora that was there.... from like 1500s... and those issues too.. And this is why today, they seem to be so against what is happening too. This is why even today, the Jews... whose land is being protected now.. and those who lives in HK that are jews.. are not even supporting the right side either. They don't even voice their concerns ?? At all. Cos one day, this is their land... and they need to go back.
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@TaronWong-e6w : HK is part of China... and it is PRC that is not being recognised by some. It is the British, that assumed Bei Ping as actual China as well. Cos they are confused !!!!! There had always been a Northern and a Southern China and ruling too... so don't confuse them !!!! Even Kowloon City, was a mere outpost of the Qing's... and was not even part of Canton !!!! So I don't get why this issue is now... like, Beijing's issue ? At all ???? What should have happened is that Canton takes control !!!!! As it should BE !!!!! Even Xi did not dare to stay in HK.. at all !!!! ... Cos he knew his rights !!!!... And the whole "Greater Bay Area" is just... it is a mere modern concept !.... The old Imperial history still stands !!!!....
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@TaronWong-e6w : Are the people sovereign, or are they slaves ? HK is supposed to have a Human rights act unto itself. So why are the sovereign people now called slaves and indigenous and is not free ? How is it under a free index when its own people are enslaved ? You tell me. And HK does not deal with corruption. Because frankly, that has gone ???.... cos if you apply the westerners perspective if Hunan rights act. Then sure . It means that they live under your ideal ? They kowtow towards you ? But they have their own currencies. Don't tell me that... cos there are no language reconciliations such that this is gone.
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@TaronWong-e6w : 我係生土地生嘅，或者你可以話我係中國家庭生嘅，因為我係出自廣州省嘅家庭. 咁應該好明白移民法. 咁點解而家用英文嚟講，我變咗 "indigenous" (土族 ) !!!??？呢個又關乜事？人權法案同中國內地嘅法律一樣. 佢好清楚咁寫低，實際上係可以容許一個人同佢嘅家庭喺一齊. 咁點解我而家突然變成外來者？點解？我仲有居港權. 我嘅祖先喺度. 佢哋嘅墳墓喺度. 當一切暴動發生嘅時候，人哋開始破壞嗰啲墳墓！點解呢？我哋有家庭關係喎！(A lot of people DO business with HK, IS because of families wor ! So then, what does this mean? The end of those relationships ? The end of those remittances ?!?!!?! ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcpZsem_lw&list=PLK7qCnafFFJb4XxCU_5gP5uuRbp2u_gQa&index=47 !!!!!!!!
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@ucsdvc : If the Old Tang Code existed, he would have had his head chopped off already. Death penalty was abolished in recent years. That is because, nobody knows who is whose land and on which piece of turf. If this is your hometown, and heung ha.. then you would always be welcomed. But if you are not.. then you would not be so. As in bloodline, kind of "right of abode". Ms Yip kind of confused the issue here somewhere.. or somehow... And this whole notion of..."are you chinese" is also in question too.... Cos some of the "right of abode"... does not have chinese parents. At all. not any more. So therefore they should not have an actual residency. Especially some of the Thais or the other SE Asians.... they are hoarding their places in HK only. China does not accept dual nationalities. And by nationality, they mean, an ancestor that is and was an actual Chinese elite. From the old dynasties.. basically. THAT is what they mean !!!!! THIS is what people meant by Human Rights Act. What has ended as.. is that, people are not even allowed to go back to their ancestral homes... And this is why even Taiwan is kicking off too... One of their so called politician deliberately made a point.. by entering into the mainland, to find his ancestors' grave.. and then to clean it. This was broadcasted ALL over the Chinese media... And I bet this was not even shown in Western medias at all..... And it definitely was NOT actually said in the likes of SCMP either !!! (Even THAT papers has been hijacked too !!!!!! ) It was set up by a high level Mr Tse... who was an old Dynastic Scholar... and today, who is sitting on this paper? It should be family owned !!!!! And not have CCP sitting on it at all ????.... Or they should have hired their next of kins and descendents instead... and not to be used this way by American owners or whatever... and making waves either. This is absolute trash. The Alibaba and the Tencents is owned or has the Ma's family name. So how come the old SCMP.. is not and does not have the Tse's families sitting in there ????
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Mr Lai should've bought out SCMP actually.. and then let the Tse family run that show... that is what he should've done. Cos now.. I can see that Ms Chow has been taken out by the Ma's.... THAT is not acceptable !!!! Even we know.. who owns the British papers.. like.. who owns them. Daily Mail is owned by Murdoch, isn't it ???... So how come the SCMP is not owned by the Tse's ???? I hope that the courts.. in HK.. for national security.. allows or to force the sale of the papers.. Apple Daily.... and to let it restructures itself... and merge or buy out the SCMP as well.. and then finally, let the Tse's family run the show. Cos that was the local actual olden Scholars.. of Canton !!!!!!! And let Lai have a seat at the table as senior journalist, and not final editor. And let those scholars.. protect their own turf.
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How about changing this situation around ? Excessive greed from the mainland.. has targetted and worried other foreign countries to the extent that Mr Lai and his company is being used here as a scapegoat and a pawn in the game of powers that exists inside the PRC and the mainland. Despite.. China.. growing for years... and did not have an issue.. and now he is thrown under the bus, cos suddenly... the PRC decided to put the World Bank's so called capitalism and prediction ABOVE the needs of genuine Chinese people. And the courts are treating him.... to be used... allowing foreigners.. to put HIM and to take HIM down... against.... his rights, as a Chinese National... Money is man-made. Capitalism is a mere concept !!!!!!! This man CANNOT die and he CANNOT be jailed !!!!! And USA is a relatively NEW country as well !!! How about that.... and it is insane that.. a newish country.. can take down the old country, that is China. Absolutely rubbish ! And PRC is also new too. So now, we see old elites like him... that is, a genuine old country.. being targetted to "modernise" !?!!!!!..... This is NOT acceptable !!!!!!! ..... It is like seeing Russians... or Northern elites... trying to actually bulldoze over the entire country ? Which we know. for certain. And all these comments as well.. about China.. taking over HK etc etc etc.. It has always been China. And PRC is NOT China !!! Using these kind of word games.. playing and offsetting people as well.. and mis-neglecting.. and deliberately misleading as well.... Enough.
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Britain did have "elections". Cos they had local representatives that did things.. and it was paid positions too... as far as I recall.... They were called "Functional Groups".... and reps come together to discuss thing. Ask anybody about this !... So why are people saying that this was not as so !!!!! .... The problem is that, those who were both in functional groups.. and then the reps... it is meant to equalise the society. But now.. it looks like, there is no equalities. Some people took advantages and ran off even. Or so. This is why nobody seems to care any more. Cos they don't "respect" the existing people. Why the people "respected" others were basically because they were also related in one form or another too. and so therefore doing business, which meant it raises both yourself and your families too. (And also extended families too.) So when more of the mainland individuals came over.. a lot of the people kicked off... cos it was intruding on their own hometowns. (By right... this is an old traditional law as well... with regards to families.) So some historians are saying that, the old chinese laws existed. As well as the Western laws in parallel... and hence the "one country, two system" concept came about... and the subsequent latter group of people... are using English to marginalise, and to manipulate the finance part.. which is ruining these basic concepts.. and even the old Chinese laws as well... THIS is why people are kicking off too. Cos they arranged their lives to be supporting such things !!!! And the current so called "Funds"... (a fund, can be actually ran by a child, somebody that is not even 18 years old?)... And these so called "Family Office"..... which is like... when was this introduced? It did not existed befor ein the past. Especially where merchant tradings were concerned. So how come the locals did not have these family offices, and were respected... but they are forced to become actual "indigenous"... and then... the merchants... their wealth were absorbed by the financiers??? Why the inequalities here? Do we need to bring back in lineage laws, in order for people to back off here ???????? Cos this is what Japan has created. And South Korea has created too... and even in Taiwan, they don't say it.. but I know that they have implemented such things too... and have so called "army ex leaders" to push back sometimes.. when they deviate. Same with Japan. Their so called ex-samurai/landlords/Yukuta......
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@franktoh3041 : HK had a lot of their pilots and those Cantonese, went abroad into the USA.. and fought for their own country.... as in.. They stood by the KMT side.. but were Americans... and they fought back off.. the Northerners... Only a Northerner like yourself.. would say this today. Why do you think that USA is now actually decoupling? And where did you think that the Southern China's money went to ? It was preserved in the USA actually... as ROC.... that is where the money went, and the treasury preserved. It was not taken away by the Russians. Or the Manchus..... and yet, today.. We now see Russia.. interfereing... again.... This is NOT surprising !!!! This is why recently, Xi went to California... and the talk of the "Flying Tigers"... were to protect the borders... of HK... for the sake of ROC etc. Funny how Hakka.. or those SE Asian disporas.. that love the Brits.. didn't know. I sure did not know either... who was who etc. I don't know if the Flying Tigers were fighting the communists or if they were fighting the cantonese.... cos HK was basically hijacked... actually.... to begin with. And the Brits took the wrong side. That is how much I could tell. And today.. it is now a junk show..
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The issue today is that... and I can see.. and assume also that... today, HK is being... or it is full of actual Eurasians... and they want to rule the world, and the globe. But they don't know that, some people are not taking their sides? At all ??? They are taking the side of the Chinese. And they want it to be a chinese city, and state. And that does not mean an actual communism... if they are worried.. or if they are of the Dutch descents.. or the Spanish descent.. Then the colony like Philippines, and the Indonesia... is for them. Cos it is those countries, that were the Dutch.. and it was the Spanish... Enough is enough. I noticed that Unilever has left. Which is fine. Let them leave. HK was a British colony. It was not a Dutch colony.
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@TaronWong-e6w : HK was a Chinese city to begin with !!!! That is ROC !!!! And it had CHINESE on the soil !!! And NOT the entire PRC was Chinese !!!! You stupid person !!!! You just.... under a single generation.. managed to turn, non-chinese into chinese.. and rule over chinese.. and then eliminate them in the process as well. What kind of maangement and kingdom.. and powers does THAT !!!!!! Would the so called Eurasians want THIS on their heads as well !?!?!?!!
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@TaronWong-e6w : DON'T drag us... or the rest of us.. who were raised before 1997... and so therefore knew what the model was.. it is the subsequent events.. that post 97... and the so called jointed Sino-Declaration happened.. and then the WTO joined situation as well... THAT is what caused the demise.. of the current situation as well.... Cos people had peace before... and we didn't get involved in so much junk and things like that. Ask yourself... what could you see these days on CGNT ??? Satelites station in Mao's old city? Rockets flown upwards? All these are shown on state national TV. So why is Mr Lai here being targetted ???.... Who sold all of these so called mobiles abroad to begin with ? That was a kept secret? And yet, we could see this on Google's youtubes ! On those chinese TV channels !!!!!
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@sarahill3509 : Did you know that Li Ka Shing... also invested money into Israel University as well to defend themselves? What does that say to you ? And that many people spend money on his businesses.... and then he was able to raise money to also donate there too. What does this say to you ????... And many people supports this too. Hutchinson's (Lady Di's family name......) And Three's network.... he merged his money together... refinanced his own hometown's uni... and now also actually then donated to the old Jewish state as well... which Britain said that they would protect. Whose money raised HK as well ? Some Jewish money also raised others off the death of their beings.... When "an eye for an eye".... happens....
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@Andrew-rc3vh : The Brits that were there, left... Cos many were Lords etc. And they left with their families. The ones that were left.. or the subsequent people were NOT the local Cantonese.. and it was NOT the Brits... and it was more or less an "open door policy"... of migrants. And THIS is not being handled. And this is part of the issue too. There are Pakistanis... some were some of the older Indians.. but then, suddenly "muslims" out of nowhere-ville as well.. Even the local papers did NOT recognise this at all ? And even recently... SOME decent writers are FINALLY... writing from THEIR perspectives !!! It never was a free for all at all... and the Brits gave it back.. cos it couldn't control its borders anyway. After 1997.. It had gotten worst ! Thai people. Filipinos. Indonesians. etc etc etc etc. And then, not the mainland people too. Not that the mainland are being discriminated.. but many of them violate existing local laws.. despite people teaching them etc. And then also a lot of ex-financiers as well.. taking funds... and running with it.. and ruining even MORE of the city too... Cos nobody is taking control.. and this is why the financial mess that is the PRC now.. happened. THAT did not take long, did it ? Cos nobody disputed it. And that move, was to anchor the USA from economic collapse... so what is happening now? .... China wants to integrate its own financial system with the world, but without the authorisation of the world first? This will lead to war. (And when we say "global finance", we don't mean those "mom and pop stores", which China is SO insistent on...... ) The situation is getting worst and worst.... Just a lot of diplomats and not much actions or inactions.... I don't even know how come HK was so transient... in nature... As my grandfather's hometown.. I am quite surprised at its transient nature.. to the Nth degree. There is no Cantonese culture left any more at all any way. Just a typical ex-pat foreign party town, with lapping SE Asian ladies, and lady boys etc.... (Despite there being a strong Christian or strong Catholic churches everywhere in SE Asia.) That is a joke for a start. Cos nobody that has sex, that many times.. and with their own family members, but without knowing this... and then attend churches.... etc etc etc. And the state does NOT steps in either !!!! 300 million, 90 million people, and it keeps on growing... exponentially. No wonder HK is taken back and strict laws are thrown down. People does not even practise family planning either. So much for these so called "foreign businesses".. indeed...!!!!!! And then the stupid communist model and Marxism argument.... junk. What junk. No wonder they come down tough. Yet, the remaining chinese assumes it would be like communism, rather than just basic Confucianism and Chinese FAMILY values... !!!!
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And some of the ladies also misunderstand when something is a discrimination or not anyway?.... Like... if you worship your Great Grand Uncle.. is this considered as "flirting" ???!!!!!!??!?!?!!?....But yet.. if you flirted with somebody's 表舅父 = Your Great Grandfather's son ????..... And you assume that you won't peeve somebody off here ??!!!....Sure.. go and drage them dancing. Why not. Get them drunk. Why not? And then expect their next of kins to watch the sh!t show.... Even better... click open their cameras and film them as well... and get a naked photo of them.. and then blackmail them too. Why not !!!! Go right ahead and do that. Be bad. Why not !
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What do you mean he rented out government land ??? So whose land was it then ??? Cos frankly, the idea that there is a "HK government" is not true... Do we need to go back then.. of whose right and whose right and those lands are actually ????... Do we need to go back to this point ???? Cos if people kick off this bit... then... some people are going to lose... And all those disporas... are going to go back and claim their lands.... And that can even mean that Li Ka Shing has no leg to stand on too. Cos I am sure that he isn't the descendents... of the scholar in HK... or Canton.. it was somewhere else.. if I recall... cos now we are digging back old Imperial Chinese histories and laws... and using what.. DNA testing to verify ? OMG.. This is why Beijing Genomics is in HK isn't it ? This is going to open an entire can of worms...
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Well... this is the thing.... cos this whole "We don't like the USA" angle... that only happened AFTER 97... Cos before that, it was a mere small place... doing its own thing.. and a lot of BRitish companies, and some European companies entered into HK as well to do business. And that partially did happen, only because Britain was also part of the EU too. So those other EU countries decided to do businesses with China. And of course, you also have the backing of the SE Asian countries who also contributed too.. and everything seems to work well.... And this uplifted China, like, A LOT.... (but where did those money gone to in the end?).... So many raised their own countries, back into SE Asia... others, just left... and now... It tries to.. take some form of control. But this kind of case, is like, a "retrospective" case as well now... Cos whatever the outcome, you cannot recreate back the way that the investments happened. (And of course... all or most SE Asians have left too... along with Europeans.. etc etc etc....) He would not be in this predicament, if it was not for the Sino-Joint Declaration being signed etc. (And what China, that is, the PRC is wanting to do.. is actually to rollout their own control... all over... and still want to keep the financial centre, and do one belt one road, but this is not possible any more.) Or at all. (And really, this is also about businesses and money too.... Everybody inside China, knows that it is trying to do "green finance"... whereas the "old commonwealth" is trying to do "old finance".. and we can see who is winning here really.... So... don't trust everything that you read either.)
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@jl2405 : But the other thing is... you take down Jimmy Lai... the Lai family tree is not going to forgive you as well ? And even now... I think the Lai name... is a strong surname for Vietnam as well.. if my research is correct.. and the Lai family have done a LOT for HK.... and its heritage is even OLDER... than Xi's !!!!! You take down these old chinese family surnames.. and those remaining HANS... This is going to cause CHAOS ! I tell you !!!!! Like, it is not already. Those who always support Northern Hans Chinese, but slowly and over time, take out the Southern Hans Chinese... This is NOT acceptable by any means ??? These family trees are going extinct !..... It is like.. imagine going into Guizhouz... or even Guang Xi... and then kick off... HK was, quite an actual close-knitw autonomous areas... and it has a lot of the older Imperial Civil servants that dated up to.. and around the Song dynasties as well... So for the sake of "Modern day communism".... The entire erasure of these remaining branches of those family trees need to go ? I don't think so !!!!!!! Nobody cares about modern day.... softwares or militaries or whatever... cos these are modern day made rules.. even under a mere 100 years ago.. these things did not exist !!!! And the people carried on, and they prospered ! Don't let these family trees die out. Imagine China, without chinese people? That is a travesty actually... like... this lockdown has not allowed many more individuals being neglected, and killed off? They were. And they did. I didn't get what was going on.... for a long while. Cos it makes no sense. Just because we cannot agree on actually.... what is considered as "news" ???.... So then it means more people dying ???... And this is not even a period of time whereby people are fighting for resources either... Cos there ought to be enough to go round by now. He is right to push back sometimes... And Tang.... (who was also an actual old dynastic name as well).... But then, so was Lai. In fact, the Lai's surname is older than the Tang's....
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One of the best interview... comment made... by the other scholar... he said..."we are now in a party model era now, as opposed to the surname era and family tree eras"... but still.... A lot of people are not as fluid... and as integrated as they assume. Actually. Many people, are actually still only small multi-family surname clusters. So that guy was wrong. And Lai's surname is also in HK as well. Even Ms Chow's surname... she is one of the very few remaining descendents of the old dynastic names... If Japan recognises her name.. then what does this say ???? Don't kill lineages off. That is not justifiable.
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This issue is not about who he is.. the issue is that, he probably did not secure his assets... that is the issue as well.... Cos I don't see Li Ka Shing having an issue... and he has a lot of companies too. Maybe some of his media assets and what nots, are actually being confused... as to whether it is worth what it is worth etc... This is an issue most possibly. And he might have been caught up in the latest issue on finance. Or other. This is my guess.. cos it does not look like a simple case. At all.
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@jwychau : The people who seems to be "confused" are the foreigners.. and some of the locals as well... and they are definitely rocking the boat. I knew it was a coup. And it has gotten worst.... and they should not have let the PRC join the WTO at all... and it is one big mess now. Cos of their so called Eurasian ways.. and it has led to an even worst situation across the globe...
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@holiday8473 : You need to understand what was Imperial China... cos if you get that... then you would get what people are trying to do here... as well... and it isn't as different as you assume etc either. The issue today.. is that, you are at risk of losing everything with China... cos they are power struggling inside.. !!!! I never knew how chaotic China was until these videos.. I don't even trust it, to be honest. Mobile phones both liberated the people, but also causing issues globally too....
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You play with the Northerners.. and now the Northerners are trying to cream the Southerners.. that is what is going on here.... And there is talk that, they want to absorb HSBC and to pay for some kind of damages somewhere within the mainland... So then it means that they absorb the entire bank. If not.. then they will take their assets etc... (WTH indeed....)
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