Comments by "May L" (@MeiinUK) on "Asianometry" channel.

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  3. What he said in the story is wrong. Cos it was punti that had land owner rights. Why do I say that ? Cos each village represents an actual family unit. Especially with the head of the family be house owner etc. That is why you can find a cluster of villages. They are all relatives. Why do I say that they own the land and the farms ? Cos those lands are gifted to them by their fathers before. And therefore would farm them to feed their own family first before actually pay or give to the family communal pool. For taxes etc. And why do they own that land ? Their ancestors would've been one of the imperial academics or other that would be given lands to settle on. And there are categories of actual civil servants etc. Therefore the whole system works. You can't just walzt into another turf or patch of land that isn't yours.... the thing which kicked off the situation was that the outsiders tried to assume the land via Qing when in reality Qing has no jurisdiction rights in that area. This is why the locals took up arms to protect their lives and killed off as many outsiders as they could. In the end around 1 million punti died or something. And then they built walls in their villages as well.... today in modern society... some people call these individuals triads. Some people also think that divide and conquer works. But you are also killing the "last of the emperor"... so why even call yourself Chinese ? Western media thinks the Qing is the single overall ruling imperial families. Inside China, they know that there are more than a single ruling imperial family and have consecutively different ones running in parallel.... If this was not so. Then you would not have separate land contracts between westerners and Cantonese in HK. Not separate schools etc etc....
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  8.  @jamesnordhoff5386 : Hakka people are not Bai Yue DNA descendents people. They come from the North ? And why this is "war" is because they belong to another Imperial Dynasty or family. Whereas the South, had an actual established structure and Imperial Clan tree. So this is why, this video reflects that as well ??? Google on Zhou Tou.... Some people accept that, cos if they studied science, then they would believe it. Some people who doesn't and assume that, the "current 2023 data that they are looking at, reflects history".... (Some people are also mixed race now in HK, because of the British. They allowed some Jews traders and Armenians to settle into HK, and hence, their European DNA existed and spread across the entire areas. The gentleman who posted his family tree online stated this as much. And today, why so many Indonesians speakers English so well as well ? I bet that, they are those disporas who were educated under an English speaking system, but doesn't know or accept if they are part of the Bai Yue or not.) .... Those people tend to call themselves "Asians" and they refer "Anything else, is classed as Chinese".... whereas I know the differences between hakka, Fuijianese, and Cantonese etc etc etc.... Cos I was raised under such environments both in HK during my mother's generation, as well as now in the UK... People who migrated into the UK in those earlier years would speak either Hakka or Cantonese. With 20 years of experiences, why wouldn't one know this ????....
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  25.  @gamevalor  : When many people call themselves "Hans" or the "Yellow river people", they mean that they are the literal and actual descendent of a specific set of people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpC1P6me5Ko&t=302s Just like, in the UK, people call themselves English, or Scottish.. it is because they know EXACTLY... every single generation, if not, then they know the rough estimate.. and things like that. The only reason why so many people do not know their own heritages IS because of the past wars.. But most people DO know it, and in fact, this century, they try to reconnect back as well. Why do you think that there are so many ancestries databases, and even a lot of post war period... so many countries accept and do not accept certain people back to their own family trees? (I think you are confused about the genuine "democracies".. like in the UK, whereby.. some of the ethnic minorities that look like they are indeed ethnic minorities.. but in fact, their literal family tree can be traced back to a King or a Queen of the UK.. or Europe.... ) What science says is not the same as what a group or a country decides. That North and South Hans thing was indeed quite regular... That of course is possibly due to the way that the region was governed then. i.e. WHOSE land belongs to WHO. That is why, since all lands were designated.. why should it be ruined by random people coming and going ?? Communism ruined things... basically... If your ancestor as gifted the land and you have farmed those lands and built on it, then it is your family ancestral land. It does not change. The government is only an administrative party. It still belongs to you. So sometimes when I see people say random things. They need to trace back the history... cos it does not stand. I got it. I found out why there was a "Northern Hans" DNA and a "Southern Hans" DNA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_and_Southern_dynasties Around 400-600 AD, the entire region was split up.
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  27. It's not really gambling.. cos in Chinese history, learning to play strategy games is a form of moral civilian etiquette. So a lot of Chinese do play that for enjoyment. The issue is how western eyes see the Chinese situation and then the Chinese see their reputation dampen deliberately... Hence it would kick off. So because Macau was a shipping port along with HK as well. They tried to collect the customs fee. This kind of fee in the UK at least, ends up being public money. I.e. for the community or for the people. So in a way, what you lose in the game, you will see it back in your child's schooling. Since there wasn't an actual government structure at that time in Macau. So.... And Mr Ho being half Dutch and from Europe.... His forefathers have seen a lot of warfare before. Hence this son.. tried his best to avoid bloodshed. At the height of the Dutch Empire.... Their population was in the millions. Maybe around 100 millions ?... Of course due to war, they lost a lot of people. Many Dutch are also Eurasians too now. Many Canadians or Americans are half Dutch. Many so called Chinese or Asians have Dutch lineages.... But they don't know this in their history. If the video maker says that this was the history of Macau.. then does that mean he himself is the son or the descent of such harsh conditions ?... This is why the Dutch have a very very liberal mindset... In order to survive, they would rather be liberal.... Many people don't support them these days though. Despite the video tells you about how these people rose into prominence...
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  28. There should not have been a Tencents at all. You can't have both Tencents, as well as Alibaba listed. Either/or. What should've happened then, is really to have a Tecents IN HK. Which means that creative industry, like animation, platform computing, distributed computing. Which links in with finances. And there are links that links with HK to other countries and cities as well. So why is this overlooked? When Li Ka Shing was peeved off.. he was not wrong. Cos his son created that so called smart alec telecom company, that kind of ruined things. Cos it disrupted the politics. And now, where is it ? Ruined that dynamic, and disturbed their competitors... and this is why they were basically squashed asap. No thanks to his move. How can a father and a son, both open companies to compete with one another? Alibaba created TWO data centers in the United States.. and they cannot even deal with their accountings. Why ? Why not file ??? Why doesn't such data centres exist in HK ? Why play landlord games ??? And now Shenzen is talking about a "metaverse" with Singapore... so now Singapore is going to privot and steal that limelight once again for HK ? If I was HK SAR government, I would invite the CEOs, or the representatives of HSBCs... for a cup of tea, and for a questioning in their Legco sessions !!! And basically broadcasts this everywhere ! That is what they SHOULD'VE gone.... And make sure that ALL your local television companies have the rights to broadcast that as well. Cos that is so not on ? I don't even know why they hired an actual Brazilian CEO for their exchange ??? I'm sorry..... I mean. Don't these people watch the news ? Or are they too confused to know which way to turn or to run ????.... I thought that HK is going to go into healthcare.... or are they deliberately going to miss that boat too ?
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  50.  @Al-ng2wn  : Japan(Keiretsu), South Korea (Cheabol) <---- THIS... even these countries are oligarchs.. They pooled together their families resources, and uplift an entire generation. WHO lives in HK ? It is not the indigenous people that lives in HK. Why do I say that ? Cos I live in the UK !!! The only person who SHOULD've been is like that Tang guy.. who is now a police officer ! Why is Li Ka Shing, who is not even an actual CANTON's provincial governor, should RUN HK ?!..... The people in Japan are the royal families, and some of those people are literally the descendents of the Qin Dynasty... So again, why is Raffles' that woman... that family dominating HK ? Isn't the only Western family that should dominate HK to be Mr Robert Ho Tung ? How come HK has to deal with the Portugese issues as well then ? And how come HK also now have to have so many "SE Asians" from Malaysia, or from Indonesia, and Philippines.. and all of these regions.. to pool together to make HK ? I don't understand this. How is that possible ? Those countries already locked down their borders. and reconciled those family trees already. Do we really need to check all families first and again ? Japan protected themselves from foreign invasion a long time ago... that is why those companies were formed. And they threatened the world with nuclear first, until the US bombed them. Does HK need to be bombed in order to reform ? Maybe it should ! Surely it should. And I am saying all of this as a weitou person as well. The fact that people cannot even speak Cantonese is one. Shouldn't those who cannot speak Cantonese NOT be employed in HK ?!!! And yet we have SO many English speaking concubine maids !!!! HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE !!!!
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  66.  @leezhieng  : Well.. that isn't what happened in the end isn't it ? And this is what became actuality and reality as well. The same now with HK, it is lost as well. Somewhat, and often. I was watching this video... and this is now a "thai lady" talking about "chinese history".... and rewriting history is how I see it as. And the website seems to be from the USA as well. Joined 23 Mar 2020 ---- United States ---- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLpeL64dwCQ I wish I went back to HK when I was asked to by my mother and my father. I didn't do that, that is my downfall in all honesty. And now the invasion... and absolute invasion from SE Asian disporas as well. And she basically are saying that, people in Thailand are basically "hakka chinese" (like, it is a race of people?)..... And she also mentioned that house in HK... with the Li family, and the migration path.... lol.. 1) You could see that the building is actually newly decorated, or at least partially renovated... 2) She isn't even using jyutping (cantonese translation), she is using some kind of oddball system. My grandmother was a Li... and the same as Li Ka Shing was a Li.... and even if Li Ka Shing was indeed from Shantou, which he continually funded. (Which so many of us in the oversea's dispora hated. I wish I didn't use the Three network.) But at least his company coughed back up the money, cos they managed Lady Di's family money, Hutchinson's. --- I know many women married into the British Army, cos they defended the hakkas like him.... So the lady's info is wrong. The thing is, so many Brits now falls under those spells of..."this is what HK is about"... Frankly, those married away and out, is gone, but the Cantonese should remain, but she is now claiming heritages to the location as well !!!! How is that boundary from Sun On, stretched as far as actual Shenzen.. and the label of Bo'an.. is also a bit of a misnomer as well. So this is rewriting history ?? And that listing as well about the different families that were there, and what surname it was etc. Sure... SE Asians.. and mixed-race "Asians" now dominates the entire political spectrums. And this is why now in the Russian Ukrainian wars... so many people in HK doesn't give a damn about. Actually, they should.. cos it was the Jewish people that landed into HK and was shielded from harm, and their money or Catholic money went to the churches that raised and protected the Cantonese from destitutes as well... And now, it should not be the hakka that takes advantages at all.. or for PRC politicians to stand by and do nothing. Well... this man's version of events, is a bit different too. A british guy who end up seeing his daughter marries a local cantonese guy. So that ended that family tree then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEAvM9POTsY&t=9s No Cantonese in Canton ? Really ? So who was Civil Servant Lin ???? I have actually never heard of that surname before, but I know somebody of that surname now went to Oxbridge. So there were "no people in HK cos it was just a fishing village" ? If so, then who was this Mandarin Lin then ??? From which unit was he from then ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk6gfAtwZ7Q&list=PLK7qCnafFFJbWojxFTmN7kmE1RJBD6JbJ&index=25&t=1507s It should never have happened at all. It never should....
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  78.  @jovimathews  : I don't think she knows or gets what and why... She may be right about the books.. but.. how we can piece together, is because the "Writing on cave walls" existed. So we know. Also.. we also know that..."DNA" also do not lie. So this is how we know. Plus, the science aspect can rebuild a set of facts. Of course, this removes the emotions and the rationales to the story. Maybe this is why she doesn't seem to think that this is true. And in terms of Hans DNA... why Southern and Norther Hans DNA existed... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpC1P6me5Ko&t=302s It is because, there was a Northern and Southern division going on. And that resulted in those people's DNA being as such. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_and_Southern_dynasties Science can rebuild back the history.... but of course.. it does not give it contexts. That link, states... You are classified as a "Southern Hans".... because.. YOUR DNA.. is also linked back to Qing Emperor as well. This is a fact. And of course, he possibly gifted his "army" which are most likely to be his sons or descendents.. Kind of like.."Go away from the palace now and have your own house and land", kind of thing. To call them Army or Military leaders, is somewhat odd. But.. He was the Yellow Emperor, and that was indeed his name. I love how so many people here.. just assume this kind of decentralised titles.. lol... I don't think she understands why some scientific papers refer to "southern Hans". Well.. that link shows it exactly why. The exact percentages and then the comparisons of why. Mostly at least 70% O3. For both North and South. It is almost exactly, which is surprising.. except for the tiny yellow.. I don't know what DNA that is. It is funny how it does reflect the history as well. Most odd.. but believable.
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  85. Why should the HKUST have a MTR station to service it ? You are already getting to location point to point under 30 minutes. And that is NOT good enough ? Have you gone crazy ? A lot of people across the globe.. travel like around a mega whopping.. 1 hr to work. Or even in the USA, they FLY into work !!! Commuting time to be around like 15 minutes is GOOD enough already ! STOP polluting HK !!! What I want to see in HK, is the pollution to be cleaned up ? And I want to see a lot of the floated companies like cleaning companies, both manufacturing, and cleaning or servicing, to be floated on the stock exchange. I don't get why people don't see such companies as valuable... cos other countries have it. So why doesn't HK ? Their contract values are into the millions... What if there is a servicing companies that cleans all the office blocks ? Even in the USA, their NYC offices have commercial companies cleaning their windows and everything. THAT is a job. And THAT company should float on the exchange ! I don't even understand what people don't get ??? What kind of companies do I expect to see in HK's exchange ? 1 - cleaning companies. 2 - printing companies, books. 3 - education companies... which includes translation softwares, even for indigenous languages... that can be installed into various OS, and platforms and whatnots... (and we are NOT talking about just "traditional or simplified"....!!! I mean weitou, or even "-隆都話". (Long Doh) https:// www.youtube.com/ watch?v=DxQAT8ICZeQ&list=PLK7qCnafFFJZNBnebQCwnKH7rSOJ9S-Jk&index=7&t=20s Or to even create softwares that can convert translations.. or something. There is a LOT of companies that can exist and it SHOULD float....
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  93. You also need to remember that, the English alphabet romanisation of the chinese language of "punti" 本地 and "hakka".... 客家.... So why would the chinese character "客" (guest) be used here ? If the individual is a foreigner to that specific areas? If you watch the old actual movies about imperial times, then you would know that, some cities were gated, and they were closed off, to outsiders. That is appropiate, and it tries to follow Imperial Laws. All laws are applied to the people living inside the city itself. And anybody else is a foreigner. A migrant to the area, and the region. It had always been this way.... So why are people acting like, "because you have the internet, everything can be yours, even if it is owned by somebody else" ??? Why are people fighting to this extreme ??? The words "Punti" and "Hakka"... were the Westerners trying to put some kind of orders, and understanding, in order to do trades. This is why, you would find old documents, with such words in them... Cos to try to "smooth" the feelings after the second world war, this is what took place. Well.. cos you invaded those people, and those people ran off... Well.. this is possibly, why now.. the "national security laws" were enacted in HK as well.... Cos surely, some people are allowed to live on their own land, and their own turfs, right ? Even the house that I live in here in the UK.. (and I class myself as a "punti".. is owned by a Lord.).... and in a way, I am only "renting" the space.. as I live.. and I pay my taxes etc. This is why I need to earn money, to keep living. So when does.. the calm.. will happen for China ? When ?
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  104.  @dewittbourchier7169  : I think whoever originally did the english translation, the romanisation from the chinese, whether it was from the cantonese dialect or the fuijian dialect... they literally did just that. But the English writer, must have assumed that the "hakka" and the "punti" were a formal noun, as in a race or something to that effect. But in reality, it just means "migrant" (to this location) and "local". Why they wrote it that way ? Because during the Song dynasties... the Hans Chinese moved downwards to escape from being killed and being taken during warring days.. They went down as far as HK as well. There was a famous stone, with the signs edged onto the stone, with gold powder (yes, classic chinese would use gold. grind it down.. into power form.. and then liquid it and paint it onto wood or onto stones).... They painted the stone to denote "The Emperor's Platform". So their descendents would know that was where he was. In actual fact... they were there.. and in the end, because of marginalisation.. and further fights.. his civil servants killed all their own families... and including the emperor... to stop themselves from being captured. This is an honorable thing to do. This is why, when the Punti - Hakka thing kicked off... the Hakkas were basically Northerners.. and further forced to move further South.. by the then ruling Qing dynasty. i.e. Mongolians. The Hakkas could potentially be from the Jin dynasties.. they were the koreans. Yes, those were the races..... (Chinese, Koreans, Mongolians).... Today, the people whom the post second world war people call them as...."chinese".. but they are not actually. They are most likely to be mongolians. Or mixed-race mongolians... with a bit of koreans or chinese, or even turks... etc etc. (Not including the modern day history of the Europeans entering the trade part...e.g. Armenians. Indians. Persians. Scots. Portugese. Germans. Dutch. ... English. Jews... etc etc etc.) (Oh, also do not forget the other "SE asian trade routes"... which covered the.... inter-mix of the Indonesians.. Malays.... and those tribes as well.)
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  112.  @Asianometry  : I can tell that, you are actually not Chinese. Cos what you said in the video.. about "people cannot distinguish who is who". This is actually not true. The "Hans".. if that is the yellow river people. They literally have an actual "family surname book". And every single person's surname and generation is written into this family tree book. So that you know who is who. And you consult the book as well before you name your child. You do not have this ? Ahhh... why IS that? Eh ? Cos you did not come from the "Hans" or the Confucian ettiquettes? It figures. In my father's village.. everybody's names are written down... and it went as far back as before the creation of PRC as well... I find what you say odd. What ming dynasty and what qing dynasty did, did not applied blanket to the entire region. So this is why some people also DO dispute this today. Cos some family tree names are allowed to prosper.. or they can breed but others cannot. And at the same time, there is an element of "Hanification" going on. Like.. those from Northern China or Beijing... if they are civil servants or diplomats or CCP members whatever those organisations are, they get sent to those rural and odd places where those so called 56 ethnic groups are... and in the past, they literally bred with those people and literally OVERTAKE the land ! That is how they "conquered" and managed that region basically... This is why some of those old villages and rural that dated back at least 300 years... they now send a representative into the state council to smooth things out. And they fought off those who tried to take their village. They also had back up as well. You cannot use the current 2022's modern eyes and construct to apply to actual and traditional values... which, as far as I am concerned , still exist. Or rather should exist. Modernity is not all that.
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