Comments by "May L" (@MeiinUK) on "1.3 Billion: Breaking Down the Han Chinese Ethnicity" video.
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@gamevalor : When many people call themselves "Hans" or the "Yellow river people", they mean that they are the literal and actual descendent of a specific set of people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpC1P6me5Ko&t=302s
Just like, in the UK, people call themselves English, or Scottish.. it is because they know EXACTLY... every single generation, if not, then they know the rough estimate.. and things like that. The only reason why so many people do not know their own heritages IS because of the past wars.. But most people DO know it, and in fact, this century, they try to reconnect back as well. Why do you think that there are so many ancestries databases, and even a lot of post war period... so many countries accept and do not accept certain people back to their own family trees? (I think you are confused about the genuine "democracies".. like in the UK, whereby.. some of the ethnic minorities that look like they are indeed ethnic minorities.. but in fact, their literal family tree can be traced back to a King or a Queen of the UK.. or Europe.... )
What science says is not the same as what a group or a country decides. That North and South Hans thing was indeed quite regular... That of course is possibly due to the way that the region was governed then. i.e. WHOSE land belongs to WHO. That is why, since all lands were designated.. why should it be ruined by random people coming and going ?? Communism ruined things... basically... If your ancestor as gifted the land and you have farmed those lands and built on it, then it is your family ancestral land. It does not change. The government is only an administrative party. It still belongs to you. So sometimes when I see people say random things. They need to trace back the history... cos it does not stand.
I got it. I found out why there was a "Northern Hans" DNA and a "Southern Hans" DNA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_and_Southern_dynasties
Around 400-600 AD, the entire region was split up.
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@cloud-w2v : "Mandarin" and "putonghua" is basically "min nam", or the earlier version of it was. It was the subsequent versions and erosion and this "new" language, created by the officials... with coercion from outsider influences, like Westerners, indirectly forced this "fake language" to be created, in order to do what... To teach foreigners a kind of standard "foreign chinese language"... And it is what it has become today. Cos in Taiwan, they do not call it "mandarin". And in those earlier days in HK, nobody calls it "mandarin". Chiu chow hua, is not classed as mandarin, and nor is min nam hua, classed as mandarin either. And even "hakka" was not an actual language per se. It was a weitou wah, or tanka people, calling others this name.. and then clever clogs' Western scholars tried to standardise and marginalise, and pitch people into groupings. So this ended up as such.... And because nobody protested and disputed in those earlier days, or stated obviously... This is whereby you let those kind of published materials to become what it is today. Some kind of weird standard.
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@jovimathews : I don't think she knows or gets what and why... She may be right about the books.. but.. how we can piece together, is because the "Writing on cave walls" existed. So we know. Also.. we also know that..."DNA" also do not lie. So this is how we know. Plus, the science aspect can rebuild a set of facts. Of course, this removes the emotions and the rationales to the story. Maybe this is why she doesn't seem to think that this is true. And in terms of Hans DNA... why Southern and Norther Hans DNA existed...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpC1P6me5Ko&t=302s
It is because, there was a Northern and Southern division going on. And that resulted in those people's DNA being as such.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_and_Southern_dynasties
Science can rebuild back the history.... but of course.. it does not give it contexts. That link, states... You are classified as a "Southern Hans".... because.. YOUR DNA.. is also linked back to Qing Emperor as well. This is a fact. And of course, he possibly gifted his "army" which are most likely to be his sons or descendents.. Kind of like.."Go away from the palace now and have your own house and land", kind of thing. To call them Army or Military leaders, is somewhat odd. But.. He was the Yellow Emperor, and that was indeed his name. I love how so many people here.. just assume this kind of decentralised titles.. lol... I don't think she understands why some scientific papers refer to "southern Hans". Well.. that link shows it exactly why. The exact percentages and then the comparisons of why. Mostly at least 70% O3. For both North and South. It is almost exactly, which is surprising.. except for the tiny yellow.. I don't know what DNA that is. It is funny how it does reflect the history as well. Most odd.. but believable.
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