Comments by "May L" (@MeiinUK) on "China Observer"
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@Spyderdeztrade : I am not an accountant, but I am an IT consultant, that has specialised in ERP for many many years, and you can call me as a "financial systems' analyst" which is the title that I would get in the West. I also deal with and double checks the financial ledgers, and act as a technical backing support, whenever something goes wrong. As a secondary non-qualified systemic accountant. Maybe qualified to the AAT level. And yes, I have done or checked, technical audits, and have also worked in both government finances, as well as actual accountancy consultancies as well... So... It is expected mostly in the West, to have issues, cos you kind of expects it. This is why the way that you do finance, is structured the way that it is ? Every month-end, and for the USA, every quarterly-ends. It doesn't even matter, if you need to regulatorily uses a quarter-end, but you instil a strong process internally to check monthly, so that you have at least 2 to 3 opportunities yourself, to correct any mistakes. I think with large volumes like China does.. it is even better to have like tiered-upon-tiered checks. Daily, then weekly, and then monthly.. to quarterlies.. so that you catch every single one transactions.
In the U K, every single position as an accountancy sector, is and has to be done by a learning and practising accountant as well. So this is not new for us here in the UK. For some reason, the US doesn't have this, but they do have things like a permanent internal audit as well. But only for very mature and older companies that often tries to transition and to pivot into a new areas, and need more hands on deck etc etc etc. So... But most people, if their finance manager thinks that something isn't quite right, it is down to them, to change the team and to double and recheck etc. Otherwise, how can they sign off? The video did say that PWC actually did not sign off their accounts.. it was "advisory" only... so... To me, it comes across like, they didn't have an actual set and strong regulatory practices any way ? So.... and I don't even understand why they do things the way they do... Cos HK used to be an actual financial centre, with investments.. and now, this kind of "state model control" is like... you are removing the actual investment banking areas... So I don't get it. Actually. Cos this isn't how things are run and done in the UK, or in the USA ?.... So... There are public money, as well as private money, and then there are institutional investment banking... which is all separate from the other two. So even if every area is "state-owned enterprises"... then... I don't get it... I don't.
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@Spyderdeztrade : You need to remember that, many of us, used to do the manual double book keeping. As in.. literally doing an actual ledger check. And your peers, can kick you out, even if you cannot do it. A lot of people, or companies here in the UK, do not need you to take on a university degree any more. They expect you to come into the company, and to do the work, slowly but correctly. Even if you have actual manual method, you need to actually do and use the systems as well. They check your mistakes and they check your standards as well. If you failed the check and doesn't past the exams. Then you just stay in the same position, or that certain jon function, you can no longer do. So... the standards here in the UK is extremely high ?
So... you need to be able to do something by hand.. even before the computers became a tool to do the same job. Also, you need the same as well... when in reality, you need to be able to know the processes, from end-to-end. It is rare, for anybody inside China.. to be able to know the end-to-end processes, cos you guys have not been exposed to it. (By right, you should not know this, at all. So.... I can see why people hack. But when you hack, you are also breaching security and attacking both yourself, and your clients too. ) I can imagine the number of systemic issues as well.. that goes on inside china. Cos... before, it was open.. and then it was closed off. Even if something has been closed off, from you.. your management, should talk to you guys and have an actual chat as well. As not to let you be stuck in your mind... at all... so...
I don't think that they are classified as "auditors", more than they are and should be classified and be called as "Advisory". Advisory, is talking about the build up of possible issues, that is going to grow big.. and those areas, is expected to happen, cos you just pushed out a policy to the country, so you don't expect perfection and smooth running, would you? So this is why it is advisory. However, audit... is to have an external... arm.. somebody that you don't know... check your own work. Cos sometimes, you are inside the company, and you can have corruption between teams and between people. So that is why you would want an external audit. Random or otherwise, to check that team's work. I have had this done to my work too. We were not told... and nobody is allowed to see those individuals. But everybody is on edge, and you can of, sometimes know. It is only often gets told afterwards... So... I still remember my first audited work by Deloitte as well. German guy, he was. Came in, seems like a lot of money. But he did a thorough check. Nothing that we wouldn't have been doing otherwise, by the statutory method in doing things. And then he came with some recommendations in and on small areas. So we followed up on that. Maybe he stated the small section which we needed to know. But... he filtered the correct section for the different tier and layers. As accordingly. Really. I've since then worked for Deloitte too.Not a big deal.
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@venomlords : The thing is, because everything happens so fast for China, mistakes can indeed occur.. which it is expected to be as so and as such too... It is when they joined the WTO that converted into the current model. I don't feel that it is all that fair, to be honest?.... And in a way, China doesn't have to literally use this as a single thing....cos... they are using high level UN level style.. monetary style.. above their own internal developments, and small banks and their so called "shadow banking".. (Which is really, the olden ways to do their own living. Which is absolutely fine?....).... Sigh... The other thing is... when foreign diplomats go into China, they expect absolute perfection. Any body out... is an actual... death penalty or whatever ?.... But at the same time.. they shouldn't use these excuses to take one another out. i.e. prosecute... And also, they shouldn't have excess babies... unwillingly.... Some people still have a concubine systems as well... which is scary. Then there is that white lady, that was taken to a Buddhist country.. she was raped by those people.. and then her baby is deformed. Cos they expected that the land is full of illnesses... and she ended up writing about her ordeal.... She too was a banker. And nobody helped her. That was crazy. She now sits in the top echeolon of monk's structures. Now people worship her like a God. A lot of people still think and assume that they could sell eurasian kids as well... A lot of that went on too. Reselling of babies, cos they know that they would be taken care of by the West. So people deliberately did it as well.. Rather than to let nature take its course...
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There should've been an actual Asian Development Bank to stop this chaos, but it did not go ahead. That is why.... and now, it is a mess.
Oh... well there is one.. and it is even in more of an actual mess too...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j04K83O1yg
Laos ? Khyzan ?? Er... A lot of individuals are not even taught basics to raise their own country up, but women, are sold, left, right and centres too... so then, they have more kids as well.. and the list goes on and on and on etc etc etc.. It is never endless... Cos people do not even spend on actual jobs. As in, there are now pollutions, but then who should clean it up? It does not get cleaned up. Due to the chaos of so many things going on. Who would monitor the financial system? Nobody. Even Indonesian Catholics are allowed to become a 300 million existence... and children trafficking was never stopped, and no external foreign armies to stop children being kidnapped etc ???? Why ?? They did not even create an ID system either? Why ????
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@kyleaugustine6886 : Yeh but his cost of living is lower though. That is the ratio thing, on top of supply chain operations to get it there as well.. as well as overhead costings as well. The reality is that, that coffee should indeed be MORE expensive than it is already. The reason is that cos China, that is PRC does not have a commodities market for coffee and hence it seems like it is cheap. And they statically set the price at the point of its originally sold price point. But imagine if they did have this... then sure.. it can indeed go up as well.. like the rest of us had to pay for expensive coffee. They are kind of cheating their way out of things to be honest... That is why they want to increase that price point, but to be frank and fair.. should it be as such ??? And also, in the USA, you guys have a higher salary but how much taxes do you pay ? And you guys don't have a state medical care either like we do. We pool back our money to get this as well. Same with china. Well.. they do have free state healthcare as well.. which is the point. But whereas even though your salary is higher, you guys pay a lot more for your every day things...and what you earn, is what you need to pay. Even in Europe.. some states pay around 40-50% of their salary to the state for schools, medical care... pensions... etc etc. Even now, the UK's calculation is not enough for pensions. i.e. You need to have a state pension and a private pension and savings to see you through !!!! (This is why I hate these kind of chats about China, cos they aren't necessarily reporting explicit correct info. Everywhere you go, the range can vary from their province to their city or their states.. so it is meaningless...)
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@hailandfire1822 : It is very different though as well. Many doctors in the West, are not just a job. They actually own the business that they run as well. So it means that, their salaries has to carry the clinic as well? This is another one of those stupid media or social media thing, which can cause jealousies.. but without actual understanding of the obligations, the rights, and the regulations.. and the ins and the outs as well. So basically, I don't know about the USA, I presume that, the doctors also actually has to pay some kind of professional insurances as well. Cos the ones in the UK has to carry the weight of the building and has to run it as a side business, but with the medical side controlled and regulated by the state instead. Not the building and the salary, that too could be a possibility, but it is half privatised. Whereas it is clear that in China, their hospitals are carried by the provincial or city budgets. And they have to wrap it under some kind of SOE model as well. And then, either individual SOE or the collective, the entire thing has to be wrapped up as a listed company in their exchange...
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