Comments by "May L" (@MeiinUK) on "Lagman House Is NYC’s Only Dungan Restaurant" video.
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@AndalusianLuis : They seems to be speaking Russian. Some people associate Russian to Mongolian.. and if you listen, it is half Mongolian, or some classify it as "Manchu".. when you read online, in online materials... the "truth" is always based on the learner.. to repeat what is understood... If you put all of those "languages" together, it is the same. Basically it is Mongolian, with a little bit of something else mixed into it.
"The five nations are Han, Manchu, Mongolian, Hui, and Tibetan form the Chinese nation. " - Taiwan proposed this model, but people rejected it !!! Stupid asses... and now, there is no such a thing as "Dungan" groups....
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What do you mean, this is "legit" ???
"The five nations are Han, Manchu, Mongolian, Hui, and Tibetan form the Chinese nation. "
This "was" China.... And now, the ethnic cleansing, is the Hans.... and the Tibetans... So the Manchus, the Mongolians.. and the Hui seems to be ruling. Not that people gives a damn actually.
New York has the UN, and it knows ZERO about the real people, and who belongs to which family, what and why.. It really should not pick a side, when they do not know crap. I now know, why so many other Hans chinese are super angry.
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min min : Many of these people are not Northern Chinese, do you realise this ? They were intermingle with Mongolia... and the likes of Gengkis Khan... actually allowed a lot of the North to be captured. This is why, even in the West, there are also muslims as well. Muslim is not part of the Chinese heritage, is it ??? This is why North.. near North Korea, broke off... and formed Korea, and then the civil war split South and North together. Same with Japan... This is why Japan.. I forgot which region, split off, and then they just decided to protect their own family tree or dynasty.. and it went on from there. The fact, that, you can no longer call a lot of people "Northern Chinese", cos they are already mixed race... is what is causing a lot of heartaches, across the entire country. Do you , and would you mix, with the descendents of those who killed off your family tree, before, in previous generation ? Who would do that ???? Nobody. No foreign countries would do that either. I will recheck my history of the North... but no way, is the current situation bearable, OR acceptable !! This is NOT acceptable ! If the current set of governments in power, is going to jepodize the country again... This time... Southern chinese will also not be so forgiving, and the country is definitely going to draw a line, and be split finally. Cos it seems to me that, the North cannot control their interactions with Russia, and cannot even deal with Tibet either... and boundary creep... again and again... and inter-mix the people, for the sake of capitalism. Enough is enough. The enemies are already within the country.. and it is a matter of time, that the last remnants.. of any "chinese" is dead in this country.
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This is the stupidest thing that I have ever read. "Dungan" again is mis-translated. It describes basically "chinese people from the North". They were also Mongolians. Who happened to have border issues or married into other families outside the scope of the China boundary. What they cook is noodles. And nothing too fancy. Whatever they can get locally. I find it more and more and MORE weird each day.
When PRC took over and "established" China... They "defined" 56 "groups" and races.. but really, they are nothing more actual Russians, or Mongolians, or Tibetans, cos some of their dialects are really Mongolians. There cannot be a "new race" each time you marry the same people !!! In China, these people get a lot of government subsidies and had done for a LONG time !!! Just like the old times, when the Imperial China existed, and then they looked after their own people, which are basically Mongolians... and named with different groups and regions, cos those families prospered !!!
OMG.... And now propelled into richness, and earn like gazillion dollars, against their own country's earnings. After being subsidised forever... Cos they vote correctly and was "loyal" to the state !!!! Whereas "Hans Chinese" were marginalised, and had their babies quota cut off.... So I bet all or 56 groups were really Mongolians !!!
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@Mengtong Feng : Funny.... I used to say that about others, but not myself... I am also shocked to the core that, people can use misleading languages to insult others as well. So, it is fine to call yourself "Chinese", when the issue in HK happened.. and people did not take their sides.. when the real issue is about land. So the Western media, is using these citizens and marginalise them, and the local politician is talking about "splitting"... to cover their own mistakes. When in reality, people are fighting about standard of living. AGAIN. So.. when these "chinese citizens"... who is from another region, but they do not represent those areas'; cuisines... Suddenly, they can be highlighted, and praised... and also be seen as the "next poor set of chinese who can now make it abroad".... So, other people gets criticised when they make their best cuisine... and then insult them as... "fake chinese cuisines" ??
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They are probably one of the army tribes or units, which were part of Gengkis Khan... who fought, and then given land to live on. But they are not a "nation" or a "tribe", when people say "people" in Chinese, or "my people" in Chinese.. They actually meant, "my family, or my community".... This is one of those things which is lost in translation. When ROC lost their seats... and then PRC overtook the so called country/ China... First thing is that they secured the security of these so called "56 ethnic groups".... and under the UN, it seems like they swapped their security... and prosperity. Cos ROC rejected the idea of "56 tribes" inside of China..... I think they classified like only 5 actual race in China. This is how China ruined itself, and lost its history. ... and allow a Mongolian race to run the country, and to ruin and manipulate the truth of the country, and its people.... There is a lot of reasons why Qing dynasty fell.... and now, the Mongols are rising, and will reunite, and overtake the rest of China.
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@Roman-kk1ic : I can tell that they are speaking a kind of semi form of Russian, or Slavic language. And not mandarin, or even Hans chinese... In China, people call themselves "I am from this region", so therefore, they say "I am from Dung-An". 東干族. (Or as according to wiki... In China, they are classified as "Hui" people. Aka "Chinese + Muslim bloodline"....) Many people kept saying that, they are... not Arab Muslim, but in one generation, their ancestors were "muslims" from the Central Asian region.)
In English, well... I live in UK, but I am from South of China. i.e. Canton. In the UK, we separate, "race" (but in china, you call it "ethnic minority"...).... to be separate from "nationality". i.e. Your bloodline is your father's DNAs, and this defines your race. But this is different to your citizenship. This is what some people talks about when they say that, they are different. So Dungan, is actually a chinese national, by citizenship... but lineage, and geneology... They are an independent race, from central asian heritage, and also Hans chinese. (But Hans chinese, many people can break this down further and further into previous generation's race.)
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