Comments by "May L" (@MeiinUK) on "Cyrus Janssen"
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@HeartOfChina : I do not think you know how sarcastic you sound when you say certain things, without understanding the context of those literary pieces.... Confucius was a scholar. Modern day term to describe him can be a civil servant. He wrote some pieces, which, some were advisory to the State. Others, were more of a joke, or a micky take, on life. "Wu wei" is one of those pieces. It spells "nonsense". This is why the censors keep taking down Winnie The Pooh. Cos it is coming across as mocking. Even though I myself have the original book "Tao of Pooh", on how the writer tried to interpret the philosophy itself. For his own child. He wrote those books for his kid. The way he tried to explain yin-yang, or wu-wei... using stories is good enough. It just means sometimes "give and take" is a good thing. This is all it means. I also have the very good Buddhism book by actual Tibetans, translated into English. Which is better. Cos it talks of life as being in cycles. Life and death comes in cycles. It is how one has to control their fear, and their tempers can return to eternal life. Which is the same concept really as most major religions at heart, and its true ethos.
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It is so sickening, when I see this so called "youths" coming online.. and the things which they say... are immoral. And they actually did not know, about the different hardships as well, which happened in different regions of the country. And yet, would just continue to add oil to the fire... For so many of us, who experienced some effect of the Japanese war and broken families.... So many of us, have lived in peace, and in joy, for like 20 to 30 years, before this current virus situation has again, kicked open this kind of stupidity and discussion. Like, we have not cried enough in previous generation. When the media show those Tankman. It is already a piece of history. For those of us living, who are not and have not heard of those stories from their parents, and what went on into different regions of the country ? And who acted out in which way ? Why do the previous generation keep saying things like "I bless you wealth", or "good health, and good wealth". It is because they do not wish to be reminded. Those of us who wanted to learn about history, then they can do so. Some people will write about it. Do it in your own time. Do not drag others, into this argument !!!
I do not wish to be one of these grumpy old elders.... But at the same time, do not accuse any of us, as guilters. Cos that was not your history.
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You should listen to some of these so called actual old newspaper clips. The older generation which was raised towards those articles, only a small handful of those people are stepping forward and retelling the truths. Otherwise, this generation, they clamp down on the so called truths... and do not let the youngsters understand history in its whole context. Mao... in the beginning, he said that.... He proposed, there maybe should ought to be around 5 Nations. That is, Tibet, Uyghur, Mongolia, Manchuria, and China Proper. The Nationalists, were Southern Hans Chinese, wanting to fight the North. But maybe in their actual fact finding situation, has seen enough. And most people did not take their sides either ? So what happened then, was even more cruel. One nation's people, tried to kill the other nation's people. This still continues to this day !!!! Some migrants, do not even claim to be that nation's citizens any more. This is the travesty ! Cos if you claim that, you are from Nation A, and not Nation B... you will now be openly claimed as 1) traitor to the country, and 2) betrayal to the State, and 3) sedition, and 4) treasons. THIS was NEVER said EVER in the past before !!!! So this is absolute BS !!! As you can read this entire thread from beginning to the end... who, or which citizen, from which region, speak which BS or not. So many citizens, are confused today. Even if they stepped into another Nation's territory, they do not learn to fit in. Cos they have this kind of expectation ? This is why today, China is still in turmoil.... Corruption is rife. Everything. Cos they won't close borders, and develop those nations. Those regional governors just want to keep their jobs. THIS is a link which talks about the political tier of the mainland China.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0YjL9rZyR0&t=560s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5SE47Xjx2Q&t=355s
7 years ago, you may find this kind of American joke and diplomacies. Today, I do not think so. And do you see, how some of these regions can be actually affecting the GDP growths ?
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@Shenzhou. : You are EXTREMELY thick... and this is one of those situation that, even the Premier is going to be so annoyed at you. And the momentum is getting bad. The people who worked with "china", was the shipping countries. It was not the East Europeans. The East Europeans went up North and invaded into the Russian areas and Siberians. From the South... They had authorisation, to work WITH the government. And those countries were the Dutch, and West Europeans. Talk about legitimacies.
"The Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) is an intergovernmental organization located in The Hague, Netherlands. "
You are trying to use NORTHERN politics into SOUTHERN regions. Well... F OFF !!!! I wish the Ming dynasty comes back. Cos you guys are screwing up a lot of the diplomacies, and some of the migrants from the middle regions are also confused as well. At this rate, the world is going to go to war. Because of your ass-wipey comments. And to think that some of the West European governments gotten confused over what is what, and who is who from which province... It really is just... a NIGHTMARE !!
The PCA is a country-to-country organisation. It is not the UN. UN is global. PCA is regional, with those who have contracts and trade LOCKED down in law. So you are saying to me that, you want the HIGHEST level to clamp down and CRUSH the country to country level ? Is this not an abuse of power ? What has the situation got to do with those who is not involved in the contractual obligation ??? Also, the MING Dynasty issue.. which is why the PCA is set up, is NOT and HAVE NOT got ANYTHING to do with the Northern Siberians/Manchurians !!!! Dream on !!!
I don't advice to knock down Beijing's high rises, cos I think it looks ugly, and it should have more sun. So why are you involved in this argument ? Nothing to do with you.
If you push this, then I am sure that, all of these SE Asian countries will push back. And if you say, who is MORE Chinese. Sorry, but some of the SE Asian countries have more of a Hans pure blood than you do in the mainland. So has Korea, and so has Japan. So it belongs to those Chinese, and not to Northern Mongols.
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At this rate, Taiwan, genuine Ming dynasty descendent, Republic of China, is going to take back the country. Sorry, but you guys have had enough of this ... and you are causing a mess !!! You changed the entire country to not even speak Chinese, but speaks Manchurians, and a version of Arabic as well... Bastardised to this extent... Brainwashed. The language was even dumbed down, into this nonsense of "no brush strokes is the right brush strokes" of a language.... FFS. PRC this, PRC that, well.. maybe it is time that PRC stepped down, and ROC takes back the country !!!
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@Shenzhou. : FYI.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_Court_of_Arbitration
"The Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) is an intergovernmental organization located in The Hague, Netherlands. It is not a court in the traditional sense, but provides services of arbitral tribunal to resolve disputes that arise out of international agreements between member states, international organizations or private parties.[3] The cases span a range of legal issues involving territorial and maritime boundaries, sovereignty, human rights, international investment, and international and regional trade. The PCA is constituted through two separate multilateral conventions[4] with a combined[5] membership of 122 states.[5] The organization is not a United Nations agency,[6] but the PCA is an official United Nations Observer.[7]"
It "observes" if parties involved in the contracts and trade breaks the laws or not !! This is what they do. It has many countries as its members ! It is not a court. But it is an entity for all involved parties to talk... (in order to avoid fighting, as in a war). THIS is why they exist. If any party breaks their obligations. A member of the security council, will indeed take orders from the UN and then go to war. Most UN members normally sign this authorisation. So, do not accuse US of always going to war. Cos many other countries had to declare war as well. From direct orders of the UN's outcome. So, nobody wants to push to the UN level ! By reaching the UN level, it is no longer discussion, it is more about sanctions, or fight.
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@TheDennisgrass : He is bluffing you. In reality so many countries have official borders, to denote that they are another country. In China, what they have done is that, they allow that individual to have an actual registered abode. Their "hukuo". Which is kind of like a citizenship. A citizenship/hometown passport, to denote that is your residency. So if you move elsewhere, it can only be temporary or for work. But you do not get full benefits. (This is mimicking what exists in Europe, and in the US.) However... what he said about the fact there are different members of CCP parties of different ethnicities are also untrue. Cos it seems like, and this part I am not 100% certain on, in terms of the definition and the logic of how it is applied... It is that, when he stated that, some people are the descendents of an ethnic race. I accept the logic if BOTH parents were so. However, following chinese marriage laws... This does not seems to be the case. In the West, you would accept it based on your parent's race. But in China, your surname is inherited from your father, but some often say if the mother is non-Hans, and the father is Hans, then they classify the child as Hans. So... I mean... even when a child is supposedly mixed race, they register and only pick one. i.e. The Father's. So how can he really say that it is fair, in terms of picking different ethnic group's citizens as members? Cos in reality, many of them are actually not so. They try to fudge it a little bit as such, to make it sound good. This is why most of course, would not really biologically BE of that race any more, cos even their DNA do not show it as such. --- When I said that some races in China are to be eradicated in this century, I was not kidding !
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But Canada, and the US, is indeed "new countries", if you compared relatively to other countries and nations. But "China", has a LONG history !!! It is like Europe... It needs to be accepted that, when people leave an area, and lock down. Then that area, has a provincial leader, and be accepted by that region's laws. I am tired and sick of the numerous rants on HK, and the "rich people" of the SE.... I think some people have never been told what they have to do, and how the provincial governments work... Japan does not have this kind of BS. Nor does South Korea. People always say that, China is a growing country. Er... please leave it alone... and let it grow itself, at its own pace. And also to... let them slowly teach their own people to do the right things... and not to actually cheat and skip things. Let them build each component, province by province. i.e. Banking in province A. banking in province B. Banking in province C. etc etc etc. Education in province A. education in province B. education in province C. etc etc etc.
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You can thank the mongolian descendended "manchu" (who are the same people, but they decided that it isn't, but they are).... Just cos they followed traditional chinese surname conventions, and lineage.... This is why, and how come "mongolians" became "manchus"... became..."chinese" now. Cos the powers that be, in Imperial Qing, dumbed down the Chinese language, in order to appease these manchu descendents... And of course, the likes of Cyrus, is going to benefit.. Cos he wants to kowtow to whoever is in power. That is why. (If the Ming dynasty was still in existence, and practised, he would be shot to death !)
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To be honest, this is VERY normal. Even Auntie was raised in the UK. During the 1980s, the North area, the entire industry collapsed. I lived in an old mining town. When the mining has disappeared, what do I need to do, to become part of the future work and the future economic development ? I have to study at university. I chose science, cos in my city, it was a metal mining town, so I learnt some equipments etc. Because auntie's father was part of the shipping industry in HK. Basically, distribution, I went on to study IT, and specialised in distribution systems... and the rest is history. Of course I was able to participate in the technology era, for my city, and for the country as well. I mostly work around the different manufacturing towns. For these ethnic minorities, I do not feel bad for them if they get priviledged options, but their work, is going to be even tougher, when they go back home, and then participate in raising the standards and to increase their own hometowns.. THIS is something which during the Mao's era, people could not do. Cos they were too ambitious. I hope that those individuals, would be able to be recruited into major big companies, and I hope that those companies, would DELIBERATELY recruit these students again, in the future, so that they too, could see their own participation in their own hometowns, and live to tell the tales for their next generation. I wish this much for them. Do something which is meaningful for yourself, and for your family. Each generation, need to help the other to keep raising the standard of living, always. Always always. Even in my uni, during my degree, many Malaysian or Singaporeans were the same. Some people had to pay private fees, some were on government subsidies, that was as designed, but.. if you take a step backwards, if my ex-uni peers, did not go home to build their homes, would SE Asia, be what it is today ? Answer is a good "no". So the Malaysian muslims got subsidies, but then again, it stopped their children rearing, even if it slowed down the growth of, say 10 to 20 years... Before they have one child. This then can lift up hygiene, medicine, etc etc. It will equalise. This is why most people NEED to listen to what is happening to their local areas !!!
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Let me ask you this question, "Who" decided "mandarin" is a "national language" ??? It is for the Western ears. Those who needed to trade. But should these so called trades, now erode and override the entire country, and of those 1.4 billion people, and their goddamn rights ?? I think you do not know that the PRC only was merely created, cos SOME people INSIDE China, sold and lost a lot of money to other countries, right ? So now, the entire "single country" have to pay off the debts of those people ?? Why? Why should they ? Do you realise that a lot of these people do not even know that there was a war ??? And then, some of the Northern citizens knew exactly what happened during the second world war cos they were involved. But other regions and areas, had zero idea the country went to war. So... for them to suddenly even be pushed to do work, in order to pay off these people and give them money, like in the form of a tax... This is so rich !!! You have no idea how the imperial system during the ming dynasties and various regions worked, did you ???
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@boonteetan4448 : I think you do not know what is happening, do you ?
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https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=4bICAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
Even the above link, in a separate time, documented who the "red army" from Russia was... This is that period before the CCP party came into power. And who made them come into power? Russia released the prisoners... and they rushed into "manchuria"... These so self proclaimed "red army" killed those innocent manchus. This is what happened. What is the difference between "real" and "fake" ? In the Western world, "real" is if everybody voted you in. Fake, is if you claim something, and nobody agrees with you. In those times, who "authorised" and have the legitimate "right" to give them those powers ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3zaY3EA-80&t=574s
Mao's comment on how to split the country. He suggested 27 nations. So why is there 27 nations ? Cos they are separate actual nation in its own right. Who is making out, as if china, is a single country ?? With a single government ?? Do you not think that this is the Western media's actions doing so ?? Why does it have 27 nations, and those boundaries line never move ? Do you assume that you could move in, and move out of countries, without authorisation ? Cos most of the SE Asian countries, and its citizens, often speaks up... in a way and manner that... You guys assume that there is NO boundaries. In Europe, nobody would dare to confuse UK with France, for example. If the other country lock down the border, then it is locked. They have their perogative. When you speak "national" language... Which "nation" specifically ? There is actually 27 nations. Only people who have lived in the US, or deals with UN, say "China has a national language". To many in the mainland, they have 27 nations ! Rightly so !!! THIS big gap in difference and in understanding, is what is screwing up the country now. Cos "the CCP party" and government at the state level, they signed up to WTO...(even without the endorsements from the people, or those 27 nations)...
BTW.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5SE47Xjx2Q
China, right this moment, is collapsing... i.e. They are experiencing, what HK did before, what Japan did before, what Malaysia did before. An actual financial crash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kcA1Woq2Z4
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Chilean Cowboys : Bloody hell ! Have you read what Daniel Dumbrill wrote ?! WTF !!! Chi sin !!! Try and get THIS translated then !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3zaY3EA-80&list=PLjSIHCoR9kYof3pyGuxDCyUddxwYbsXZf&index=2
The "Nationalists" were the real Hans Chinese, wanting to reunite the Hans China Proper. The so called "War Lords" were the civil servants. The people who were gifted the land, kind of like the Lord and the Lady titles in the UK. They already existed, before some idiotic people came along and declare the country belongs to them. This is why Chiang did not have to do very much in order to raise people to help him. Cos they all followed the same desire. To see the country be united. And this meant, away from the tribes, which did not form China. Who then tried to bring Tibet, The North-West, which was Manchu.. all under one ? The Nationalists did not want this. This is NOT their desires ! Once you allow your enemies to actually erode the boundaries, as well as the people, in blood, and in bloodlines.. what else do you have left ? Nothing. You have nothing left. And this is what happened. Due to the influence of the US, who the Manchus or the Japanese, owe money to. Did Japan paid for the war in the end, or the damage to the Manchus ? Who were the bonds, that the US keeps threatening ?? Who helped the Russian rise ? And then the Russian took away the army tools left in Manchuria... and then the Communist, swooped in ?? Is it cos the "West" or the US saw the rise of the North-West, so much so that, they didn't want Russia to get stronger ? That they concentrated with the South, or to help the Japanese then ? Didn't US bombed Pearl Harbour to push back the Japanese ??
Funny how things came around... and now, the narratives is this ? At least those reporters have decencies... Meaning they are honest about their intention and their actions. Funnily enough, it was Sun Yat Sen, who met with Hitler... and it was Hitler who killed the Jewish people. And it is the Communist.. who believed in that Jewish ideology... and influences of Marx.... Communism was on the rise across the globe. Going against the idea of a nation as well. So much so that, most people were against it. Cos in the end, it was a Russian ideology. You guys have a nerve to twist history now.
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But the point is, you are speaking something which nobody else speaks... except those who wants to control you. So therefore they will tell you what to say. Then from what to say, to what to do. Where is your legitimate rights gone to ?! THIS is the whole point !!!! Why is Thailand having troubles now ? And how come in China, the CCP party HOARDS all of the gold, and ALL of the money ? And collect those real money, like they are the Imperial Dynastic family ? Did you know that is what they do ? In a workable country, the money go to the people, not to a single "party". This is the whole point !!! People work so hard, but the money goes to the so called "government"... and their families... and the worker only gets around like 0.00001 % !!! And people are not even learning and educated about their own environment, and their own areas, but they are educated for another language, and for something else. Which they would never ever ever ever actually use to benefit to and to grow their own family. This is the point.
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@yffrendy7618 : Just how f!cking dare you ??? PRC only formed in 70 years ago. Even then, there is no single "country" !!! Even when Mao formed, he wanted to control the entire region which is current today. But you have to remember this. Mao was nothing. He was a nobody. There never WAS any actual single country. This is the point !!! Each areas had their own nations. It has and have had actual armies, their own civilised grouping. Mayors, or Armies or Civil servants, or whatever it may be. Some of the English text which you read today, they called it "war lords". Er.. NO....!! Not all of them were illegitimate !! For a nothing, to turn into the single control... This argument is falling apart. The language is not even the "single language", cos you are under the assumption that there had been. But there has never been a single country ! You are spreading more and more and more lies, until these people forget who they are... until that point in time, then you are trapped ! Goodness me !!! Chi sin. Who the hell can do this. The US has an agenda to "force" people into the "single country concept". Cos they lie about how much China owns them in terms of bonds. And they are assuming that the so called Qing Dynasty run the entire country. But in reality, it did not. Cos even some areas rejected this, and they fought off the enemies !!! Good for them !!!! And it is not that those people have NOT forced off these enemies, cos they have ! Why do you think that some people keep saying things like "push back"...
How can you force 1.4 billion people to be under a "single country" ??? They live within their rightful nations !!! And his classification is also wrong. It is his kind of "foreigners info", which seems to allow and enable some of you ignorant overseas chinese to lap up this narrative. I am glad that SOME people inside the country does not agree with you !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4C9PufXNis&t=398s
Am so glad that these people read the original papers... even before PRC was formed. Even before actual CCP was formed. Did you think that some people did not existed before these entities were formed ?? I think you misunderstand that some people are running under a government. CCP is more like a private gentleman's club... and they hoard the salaries of so many citizens in the country. Did you know this ???
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@yffrendy7618 :That video link.. it talked about how the rise of communism existed... And how that a Jew went into North China.. to try and to find people to follow communism. So they found some. And they tried to want the desire to make or to build things together. It was a political idea group only. It has no absolute power, and nor have they actually got any legal rights !!!! That link, is talking about betraying China. Who betrayed China to begin with. Who let in the Russian ideas.. and then to overthrow some of the chinese ? During the Qing Dynasty as well.. even some Hans Chinese were killled in those banners. Did you also know that, the Dutch, who came into the shipping areas, were also Jewish as well ??? If I take a big step backwards, it seems like that the so called Chinese were mostly used by the Jews than anything, to make them rich more. That is how I see it. Whatever you guys are taught in chinese schools in SE Asia.. I'm sorry... but I bet it is selective. Cos why would anybody tell you such things ? Only a real city in the mainland, would teach these subjects. That link, the topic which they are talking about.. is about taught in HK schools as well, in the DSE subjects. Even Japanese are taught about the history of China too. And how Japan was really an Ally in Northern/Russian areas.. and how they were contributary towards the Russians. If there were not relationships kept, then Japan would not have sent their imperial army in to help the Manchu reinstate Puyi.... Only to allow Communism rise.... and they stole the Japanese' left over army tools, to kill the manchus. A lot of Northern Chinese, ran downwards to the South. There had always been a North and South line and boundaries. This is a known line. Classified as the "Hu Line". So when you say and talk in a manner as if there should NOT be a line. This is a big joke.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_and_southern_China#/media/File:Qinling_Huaihe_Line.png
Great Wall of China, was also a wall to stop the tribes from the North-East to invade into China Proper.
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@yffrendy7618 : Do you know why people are angry ? Because the people who spoke a different dialect, or a language, is the OWNER OF THEIR OWN LAND. It is from invasion and from migration (basically running away from your own designated hometowns), which has allowed people to be more demanding, and bully the original settlers in those regions. I do not care.. if you are Chiu Chow person. But Canton should speak Cantonese, and speak Yue. I spoke weitou when I was a child, but it sounds a lot like Yue/Cantonese. This is the major group sound and tone and language. Taiwan had a SMALLER population of Min speakers, but majority of the people were actually FROM the Canton region. Cos the aboriginal settlers WERE from Canton. There is even an actual DNA trace, and settlers from those regions. So how can Northerners invade the entire country and call it their own, when the settlers who came first, were the Southerners !?!?!! Even carbon dating items, showed that those items from the South came first, before the North appeared. And now, people are claiming "Korean/Mandarin" as the real Hans Chinese ! Er....!!!
You mean erosion of people and their language is how you actually control the power of the country ? I bet you that the US wanted a "single country". I bet you that the West wanted a "single country".. Er... the entire country had many provinces which is the size of an European country !!!!! So DO NOT SPEAK FOR OTHERS !!!
Thanks to bad classification, so many children today of the South, are BULLIED EVERY DAY !!! BULLIED THROUGH AND THROUGH !!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_Atlas_of_China
They get so bullied and ghosted that, they do not even dare admit to their own language.... People can just F OFF. This is why there should not be a "single country" !!! Sun Yat Sen will turn in his grave.. Those Southerners who were also sent abroad to dig for gold and to work manual jobs.. Only to be claimed as the ones who came from Fuijian.. and so forth. Like, our legacy did not matter, and was not true. All of the historical histories, twisted, to make them look good, and we look bad. Get the facts right first ! "Hakka/ Hokkien / Teow Chew " - are ALL forms of Min language group.
There has been a lot of developments in Hong Kong and the South, cos it had its own provincial governor for years and years and years.... Only for people to erase this history. Janssen here, thinks that, he can speak ABOVE those collective groups of around 30 to 70 million people, all around the South. Well done stupid Janssen ! For raising a subject that he has zero clue about !!! "Oh, you should speak the "majority NATIONAL language as well"... Er... F OFF !!!!!! If it was not for this lock down and the internet, and this social media generation now, I would NOT know, how much Cantonese people have been bullied at all !!! And all of this talk about splittist attitude and HK etc. And all of these sudden Malaysian and Singaporean dipsticks, coming out talking in Mandarin as well... As if they own the world... Sorry, but please back off. Trade is just trade. Do not erase someone's family-tree, their identity, their language, and their intimacies with their families. What trash. Selling their soul for money. The expectation seems to be somewhat high ! No wonder people used to kill others for their invasion... Janssen does not think that he is invading. This is the ignorance !!!
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If people looked at this map, "China Proper" is shrinking. The invasion of the Mongols, during the Yuan dynasty, has allowed the spread of this mix match of a language, to be eroded into the entire country. Some people did not agree with this kind of tribal invasion. Some people assume that they are the same people. But if they have been kicked out of the Great Wall boundary and lines, are they really the same people ?? Er... They are not, and even DNA dating and checking shows that they are not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_Atlas_of_China#/media/File:Map_of_sinitic_languages_full-en.svg
This kind of trickery has been going on for centuries... It is no wonder in Guang Xi... People do not kowtow to this kind of thing, cos they protect their land, and they protect their heritages. GOOD for them.
So many people assume that so many citizens "should" speak Mandarin. There is no "should" !!!! It is time that there need to be a boundary line between North China, and South China, this is enough. Enough is enough. Cos it is no longer China any more, than it is a mongolian state. One big mongolian state. Enough. People can F off. The amount of harm that so many people have done to the people, for centuries...
And sometimes those Malaysians, who have once migrated away from their own towns.. do not even accept the fact that, they should not speak a second dialect, that is not their own. They adopt, and assume that they should and ought to be influenced by that. It is wrong. If you cannot get a job not being able to speak Cantonese, then you are eliminated. Then it means someone else will get the job. This is as designed ! You do not see people kicking up a fuss in Europe. People will just back off ? And if there is a genuine need, then there would always be a translator to be hired ? But oh no... People get more and more and more greedy. Even when government policies wanted certain languages to be promoted and certain areas to exist. This is like, taken away. If someone do not speak mandarin, it just means that they want to stay in their local areas !!!! What is wrong with this choice ?! Let them choose !!! Japan does not have this problem ! Korea does not have this problem ! (Japan and Korea have been protecting their own family-tree for CENTURIES !!!!) Whereas, SOME people in this thread, is talking about STEALING SOMEONE ELSE's FAMILY-TREE and heritages !!!! I AM NOT A KOREAN, OR A MONGOL ! I SHALL NOT PRETEND TO BE ONE !!!!!! I WILL NEVER BE A MONGOL !
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@stephenhill8790 : I would stay out of this argument, cos in China,,.... not be able to defend yourself... and using a different language, is not able to win the argument, and then you lose your home, your family etc etc etc... That is what and that is why. Even in HK. It was a rural city. And those villagers had to defend themselves a lot of times !!!! And yet, some people wants to make mega money... but not everybody wants to make mega money. Do not forget that, when HK was under the British... people paid taxes as well !!! This is why now, some arsey jealous people, assume that SOME cities are rich.. is because... they earned or something.. But in reality, it was PAID for by MY generation !!! We had to pay inheritance tax, so much that it crippled my family.... We never saw this passed onto the next generation.... And now, the so called elites of China now... Of course, THEY... are benefitting !!! Cos they kept it ! Both be the political tiers as well as the businessmen and... And then, the so called "poor" areas... These elites want to make them money slaves, basically. If you do not know what is happening.
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@Shenzhou. : Yes, you forget how the "country" became what it is today. A lot of us do remember, and the world also remembered world war two AS well.... And someone also admitted that, the Premier is actually of Korean heritage too... I thought he was Manchu. So you are saying that, those who live in their region, do not deserve actually regional integrities ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4C9PufXNis&list=PLjSIHCoR9kYof3pyGuxDCyUddxwYbsXZf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3zaY3EA-80&list=PLjSIHCoR9kYof3pyGuxDCyUddxwYbsXZf&index=2
THIS is the list... of the different culture and the regions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Neolithic_cultures_of_China
"Communism" is actually illegal in Europe. Cos it killed a lot of people as well. So... I hope that most chinese citizens, do not embrace "communism".... as a political ideology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Neolithic_cultures_of_China#/media/File:Neolithic_china.svg
I accept Dabenkeng as Cantonese people, with the Yue language. Some of the so called Taiwanese mandarin, their speaking and their tones, I can grasp very easily because it has the same tones as Cantonese. I cannot stand and comprehend the Beijing dialect, that is because it is not chinese, or Hans chinese. I can accept that Dawenkou culture, has a lot of links to Korean in nature. But I do not accept Manchuria as the ruling class of the entire Chinese history and culture. Cos Siberians.. that is "white caucasian" people were found in the far North, which borders into outer Mongolia, and more. There is even a DNA map, which shows people who are NOT of the Chinese DNA !!!
Dalongtan is also a strong group of people, from Dai heritage, and they fought off the Northern invaders... For generation to generation. Those areas, have old human bones in there, and scientists have cross-referenced them to modern day living people... So please do not tell me WHO is more Chinese ! Cos they are NOT.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/World_Map_of_Y-DNA_Haplogroups.png
The red, and the pink is mostly DNA similar.. and they derive from the Denisovans.
There is a reason why some people cannot mix as well, cos one or two have been tribal people, and have never ever mixed with other modern day culture. Some of the modern day population is really from the last 200 years. Others have been living off in their own communities for centuries. Inter-breeding.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding_between_archaic_and_modern_humans
In Japan, and in Korea, the government control who marries who, in an indirect way... There is a lot of reason why that is. For genetic illness reasons and so forth. Maybe you have never heard of the old elderlies.. talk of how babies used to die and never past a certain age.. This has nothing to do with science. I am sure that, most of the older generation knew exactly of many issues in giving birth. Way way way before modern science and techniques can check for good healths.
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@Shenzhou. : Go to hell. Seriously. Do go to hell. Just because the Manchus assumed that, the region which they occupied was the actual entire Middle Kingdom, does not mean that there is no central location, which was the Middle Kingdom. Which is a lot further down South. Just because Qing Dynasty was ruling, does not mean that they were good and kind people to the rural classes ! Cos they were not. And most people know that !!! Was it not the Hans Banners who were mixed into the various banners, that was ordered to be killed ? I think it was. Was it not during the Qing Dynasty who also ordered Hans soliders to kill their own people, back in their own hometowns and regions ? I think it was ! Do you not think that people would know, who were killed within the Imperial Palace's walls ??? You mean, those information would not get out of the palace ? You do not think that, KMT or Chiang knew about things like that ?? Even today, Hans, real Hans chinese, is only in a small minority. Between the invasion of Mongols... to the Qing Crazy Manchus. I think the real Hans population is extremely small today. This is why foreign powers are checked and verified... To stop full extermination !!!!
There ought to be 5 nations as was described by Mao before. Mongol/Tibet/Uyghur/Manchu/ China Proper !!! NO TO DYING HANS CHINESE ANY MORE !!!! DOWN WITH THE QING ! BACK WITH THE MING !!!!!!
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@Shenzhou. : What has other countries' politics got to do with the chinese politics ?! Don't try to scapegoat !!!! And NO... a LOT of us, have NOT forgotten the injustices of the past. To "kill you off" is the only option of governing. So are you going to keep killing off the people ?? I know, do the weird Qing Dynasty thing instead, which is inbreeding !!! Collect a brothel (let's be honest, this is the true and real term today), let the imperial palace create a brothel... and then actually rotate the women, so that your population exists. And then, let the inbreeding happens !!! WOW... what futuristic science !!! Oh no, there won't be genetic and medical issues further on down the lines !!! Pat yourself on the back !!! (And did you know, Beijing participated as well in those DNA projects, which was global ! Were you not told about it in the mainland media ?!!?!!! ) ..... Funny how "educated" you seem, but yet, do not read the news either ! How weird !
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Because historically, China, is made up of many mini-Kingdoms. The PRC is only in power for around 70 years. You are trying to tell me that, those kingdoms need to be eroded and need to go ? So that, there would be "one single china" ? How is this possible ? People are 1) being told lies, and 2) being told lies about themselves as well... i.e. discredited about their own sovereign race, and about their own heritages. Some people, in those "tribes" are "kings and queens" in their own tribes, or their own Kingdom. THIS is the injustices here.. Never mind the fact that, this guy is trying to so called promote them. But these so called Kingdoms, who fought... those who fought off the invaders, can tell the truths. The ones who did fight off... and has been educated and told the stories by their own people, remains strong. It is the weak groups, which are eroded and killed off over time. Some tribes are dying race. Even Europeans would not dare go this far... like the mainland has done... In fact, they have this feeling of entitlements. The Qing dynasty screwed up a lot. Even up to the Ming Dynasty, there was some loose order... now it has gone Pete Tong.
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Even so, those chinese who moved to say Malaysia or Singapore, they learned English, only because those countries were once upon a time, a commonwealth country. That is the ONLY connection. This is why they would do it. However, that said, those individuals, are actually classified as "economic migrants". i.e. They moved from one country, to another country, in order to earn more money. This is their intention. However, should an economic migrant like themselves, now get involved in the politics of the mainland alone ? WHY should THEY use THEIR priviledged position, to erode the other dialects or the other languages, in the other regions ? This is SO funny !!! And the same can be said of this Janssen Pratt as well. Who gives HIM the right, to erode those locals' dialects, and their speeches ? ALL in ALL, for the pursuit of "international acceptance" ?! This is ABSOLUTELY BS !!!! Some of these so called "Chinese", do not even recognise, or even accept that, they are from a specific "nation" of China, within the mainland. Under the different jurisdiction. They do not even accept that Manchuria, and Mongolia, were separate nations, or has their own integrities... Just cos the borders are not so well defined. They DON'T accept this to be the case. Cos it is "communism" to not allow boundaries to exist. And yet, on the opposite argument.. People are not even allowed to protect their lands, or their homes, when new migrants enter a new area.... They assumed that they could just share share... (Well, this share share attitude has allowed a lot of crimes to exist. Go as far as rape, go as far as some random Hans chinese man, walking into this Uyghur's woman's home, and SLEEP in their BED !!!) This is SHARE SHARE SHARE.... !!! Do you see the arrogance of SOME people ? Causing and provoking injustices ?
I think that the mainland, SHOULD promote, "new migrant ettiquettes"... or MIGRANT TESTS' !!! Just like the West do. i.e. If you CANNOT speak that local dialect, and PAST that test, then YOU CANNOT LIVE AND WORK THERE !!!! Cos it disturbs the peace !!!
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I will tell you one more thing. Even those migrants into Chinese Chinatown of the past. They all learnt Cantonese. It was the Cantonese people who "lost out", cos of marginalisation from those evil governors, who tried to "help their own people". The real Hans, in chinese history is often 1) killed, and 2) marginalised. The fact that, those migrants were pushed to go abroad to do "slave work"... actually resulted in their own loss of land, and also loss of their homes. If the British government did not held onto HK... I would say, my family would not have been able to go back to our village and build our old shackled home, back into an actual house, and to pick back up the bones and graves and put our ancestors to rest in a nice setting. THIS would never have happened, in my lifetime, or in my grandparents' life time. You see and hear a lot of these so called "hateful" comments now.... from Malaysians, and from Singaporeans about..." we were marginalised also, away from HK etc etc etc"... ER... that home belongs to somebody, and they have come back to claim it ! I am glad that the HK government kept 1) the records and 2) the land. Otherwise, like a wondering ghost... walk in zombie mode into this big wide world, without knowing where my ancestors live... or died in. So many people in china today, has no clue, where their great-grand parents were from, and where their graves are. Did you know that ? Ancestral worship is lost. You see the media always praising what poverty and what good was done, but they forget to show foreign viewers, who left where, and why they do not know their hometowns, or their heritage. Some people would even deliberately erase this history as well. Cos "it was unfair".... This argument, is what set people to kill, and to die for their families, and for their land. This still goes on today..... In the West, nobody would be this ungrateful. All graves are dug, and all building work is put on hold. Each person, and each life is accounted for. Every single person can trace their family-tree... all the way, back into the 1300 hundreds, and even the 1500s.... Can the average "chinese" person do this in the mainland ? No, they cannot.
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So your parents are like these people as well...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3zaY3EA-80&list=PLjSIHCoR9kYof3pyGuxDCyUddxwYbsXZf&index=2
I was born in the UK, but my grandparents spoke weitou. And it was before the university was created, and then the sociology dept take a lot of studies and kept records of the region. That is HK.. even during and even after the British left. So that there is a history of what went on before all of these so called modern developments. So weitou is what I ought to speak, but the education was taught in Yue. Or a formal Cantonese. It is not a dialect, cos the Hans chinese went down South. So this is formal Hans language. It would be great, for any academics, to find out the origins of languages. When and how etc. Some people say that some people spoke "hakka".. but in reality, they meant, they were migrants. The version which they speak, is maybe "Wu".
Whenever you try to standardise a group of people, they would lose their land, and their homes. So NO MORE OF THIS !!! Like this woman.
http://www.sixthtone.com/news/1006492/a-woman-called-hey
It would be great for any scholars or uni students, to do a study of this family.. and rebuild their family-tree for them.
I watched this woman, and I almost fell off my chair... Maybe because the government allow certain autonomous regions to be tourist traps. This is why that woman would say such things and make such things day in day out..... Translation "I am the ethnic group of the "White People"... and I make these items in blue die, and it keeps me white as well. See ? My hands are white. So this is why our names are called "White people". " If this is not a selling mimmick, then what is ??
https://www.facebook.com/goldthread2/videos/380588749885144
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Mandarin is a UN-forced language, in order to "raise" the profile of China. And this, is one of those distasteful thing that most educated chinese like myself, knew about the country, from an academic point of view, and we knew exactly what was changed, what, when and why. Mandarin as it is stands today is close to Min Nam language. Which is now, overriding so many local dialects as well. In fact, it has eroded other local languages already. And no, China is not of one single race. It is actually of several different races !!! And people still refuse to connect which region is of which race, and why. The English texts which one can find online is only a small extension into a large united country. China, should be seen as an actual UN in, and of itself !!! This is why SO many people HATE this Western brainwashing idea of "this is a singular country". Just because the government tried to unify and picked one language to communicate with, by NO means that it means the erosion of local languages and heritages as well !!! They cannot do that ! In fact, this has been proposed to be unacceptable at the national level !!!!!
So whenever I see people speak out about "you MUST learn mandarin and mandarin only".. I call this BS !!!!
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@Shenzhou. : Well, that is because, Singapore is a small country... and the fact that it took a long time to settle the country and to fight to reduce down the number of languages, to suddenly, for a single person, to overthrow the entire system again ? How is that even be possible ? Even in the UK... a lot of people used to speak more Cantonese... and then some people speak Hakka (which is a little bit similar to already Wu/ Mandarin)... BUT.. some people INSIST that, they speak the SMALL selective set of characters, and write in the simplified form. PLEASE ! STOP THIS ! If you speak your own dialect, when abroad, amongst other chinese, from different regions. I think you will get more respect !!!!
In Singapore, people speak "Hokkien", "Fuijian"... although, they are not official a real language, but those regions uses and base it on Wu... "mandarin" is a hybrid language, which has deviated from Wu and is adding mongolian syntax (language logic) into it !!!! This is WHY any REAL Chinese will reject this syntax !!! Cos it is mongolian !!!! And if you trace back the mongolian heritage, it goes back to like Siberian or something... or is it Arabic ??? To me, these people are trying to protect the real Hans or Middle Kingdom language, while SOME people tried to bastardise it further.
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THIS is what happened !
"Mainland China
In December 2004, Ministry of education authorities rejected a proposal from a Beijing CPPCC political conference member that called for elementary schools to teach traditional Chinese characters in addition to the simplified ones. The conference member pointed out that many, especially young people, have difficulties with traditional Chinese characters; this is especially important in dealing with non-mainland communities such as Taiwan and Hong Kong. The educational authorities did not approve the recommendation, saying that it did not fit in with the "requirements as set out by the law" and it could potentially complicate the curricula.[24] A similar proposal was delivered to the 1st Plenary Session of the 11th Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference in March 2008.[25]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplified_Chinese_characters
ONE single person, went above AND beyond, an entire region, actually, several region's sentiments. For me to see a child today, from the mainland, not to be able to write a single chinese character, using full brush stroke is almost like a joke of the day. That idea of traditional Confucianism... is gone. All you guys can do is to use the so called internet generation's "techno bubble"... to "ping yin" a word, or a character. Cos you cannot think how it is done. THIS is why that man in that video IS mad ! And you call yourself a chinese person !
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@Shenzhou. : "China proper" has 18 provinces ! And NONE of them, speaks "mandarin" !!! Cos that is from mongolian language, with some random Mongol words in it ! The syntax is also different to proper traditional chinese !!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_proper
South of China, is proper China. North of China is from Mongolian/Manchurian heritages !!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_language#/media/File:Map_of_sinitic_languages_full-en.svg
Why should that Singaporean who could maybe speak Wu, or even Min or Gan, be forced to speak a mongolian language ??? Why ? It is in the constitution of China as well... to actually be able to speak your local language. So why is that man wrong ? Even Singapore's government have gone half way to promote so call "mandarin", but it is NOT the Beijing accent !!! You can see that, they are not happy with this kind of "trade invasion" !!! In the UK, nobody is allowed to speak chinese. We teach and pass on our own. If language schools exists, it is because we have to put the money forward to make it happen. So why should we lose our own language, just cos YOU say so ?!!?! So F off !!!! I AM NOT A MONGOL !!!!! I AM CHINESE !!!!!!!
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@Youngcl77 : I find what you say absolute patronising. How do you know that, they do not go back to China to visit families, or to build their ancestral homes ? Most of us DO !! It is assholes like yourself, who does not ! And it is those corrupt officials who borrows money and then resell to others ! MANY of us, BUILD our OWN homes, from generation to generation. SO PLEASE, P!SSS OFF !!!!!! Just because some of you cheat, does not mean that all of us cheated. Look at you guys now..... SO many of us, send money also back home to build our village houses. Maybe it is you, who do not know. And cheat. Well... the cheating action now has residual consequences... People dying... people losing their homes, their money... Thank you ~~~ Greed is what happened.
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@Chinese080808 : This is the thing... they are more chinese, than you are chinese. Cos those migrants from the previous generation were not Mongrels. i.e. Were not mixed race, to the high extent that they lose their heritage. And why do I know who those families are ? Is it because back in those days, only people of importance, were allowed of the country as well. As much as you seems to label people with a "ABC" 2020's label... Those families was the empire building group. Which so many people, inside of China, 1) do not acknowledge, or 2) do not know, or do not care, and 3) want to be more arrogant, and stomp down on those people now.... In order for yourselves to rise. We know, the kind of attitudes this country now has. This so called "second generation red army's children"... I had no idea what this meant before this virus lockdown. With the social media, seemingly opening up to you guys.. I now finally understand it. No wonder, I also got physically hit, by some random chinese person, who came to the UK to work. British government allowed a set quotas.. and I had no idea. And it was not until some kind of agreement was signed, such that, some of these migrants became MORE aggressive. Just randomly aggressive. And of course, with the internet now... with so many people, accessing from ALL over the globe. People would say and do things, which is 1) rude, and 2) crude, and 3) aggressive, without even understanding who their readership are. "Not meant to ridicule" ? But you have already offended.
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@hclau218 : I am not sarong girl. I am not Singaporean. I am Cantonese, from HK. That makes me Southern Hans chinese.
My family was at least three generation in HK. And then before that, it was Dong Guan, Bo'an, in Canton. There we go. My name is Mei. I do not know what you mean by "anti chinese". That is your BS lies. I have identity cards for HK. I also go back every single year, and I was raised in HK as a child. And even studied in HK. So much for your lies, and BS to make prejudices towards people that you do not even know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYVdmJgxJ74&t=1128s
Why would people like me, not know chinese, or know about HK, or even know the history of China ? Since the British allowed HK citizens to freely go in and out of the UK and to HK thoroughout the years ?? Most people built their own homes, and went back. Trading ships did not mean that the workers were allowed to stay cos they were working. So why wouldn't people dock and live at home after a long period of time ?? How much do people who does not live in HK knew about the shipping past ? ZERO, that is what.
And it is weird, for me to see that, so many people make the assumptions, that there were no relationships between some states at all... And that, some of us are "uneducated" about China. That is actually BS. And why would I not even know Chinese, since I used to teach the subject to the next generation of kids in the UK ?!!? Second generation born children. Only by birth, but their parents speak to them in Chinese !!! So why would they not know chinese ?!
And those RTHK, which is the HK government's TV channel was freely broadcasted as well !!! It was and could be received in the UK !!! So much for people NOT knowing what goes ON !!! If it was not for the kindness of strangers.. helping others also rise out of their own poverties... China would not be what it is today. What BS. And even back in those days, Chinese workers, also paid tax in HK. It is from taxation which got what the country manage then to build... So much for others NOT knowing what goes ON.
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@hclau218 : CHI SIN..... Why is my family "kissing white man's ass????" !! I find it funny how others just want to accuse, and berate others. Er.... Qing dynasty signed over HK. So HK was trading with UK. So why is this wrong ? Who was Mao, and who was Deng ? Er... China proper, including the Nationalists.. And I conclude that HK is part of the Nationalist's movements. Who does not know that, the Northern Chinese.. often wanted power... so yes, the Qing dynasty got in. It was a Manchu Dynasty. Ming dynasties and their descendents continued with the Ming Dynasty's legacy. What is wrong with that ? It was the QING DYNASTY SIGNED AWAY HONG KONG ! COS THEY WANTED TO GET RID OF THE MING ENEMIES !!! So how can now you say we like another "master" ?! F off !!! WE PAID FOR OUR LAND. WE PAID FOR OUR SCHOOLS !!! PLEASE F OFF !!! In my mother's generation... she could not even go to school, cos you have to pay for schools. Did you think that the British government actually paid for everything ? It was the taxes, and the merchants, who earned excess money, and they gave back the money to those workers' children, in order to benefit THEM ! And even if those seamen, who worked on those ships that moved goods to foreign countries... They were looked after, and got pensions. I find what you say incredibly insulting. Incredibly. As if... our rights did not matter. What is happening more, is that YOUR generation is benefitting more, just cos a lot of people take out more loans, and try to build a life. But in our generation.. we PAID.. with our own hard work !!!
(By the way.. I do not entirely agree with what is happening in HK. I was NOT the one who protested and raised this big an issue. It is people, getting things out of hands. I think something screwed up.. since HK was signed back. Everyone knew it would be so. People saw it coming a long way away. And they were right. Financial crash of 1997. Asian crisis. I think you must be under 40... Cos you talk like a person who has absolutely no idea what went on in the rest of the world.)
In my generation, I have seen. 1) HK crashed. (Even before 1997.) 2) Japan crashed. 3) Argentina also crashed. 4) Switzerland crashed once. 5) Dot com bubble in the UK.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_economic_crises
Everybody makes choices. Yes, you are correct, I could have gone back to HK before, but after I realised that it crashed. For me, I decided to stay in the UK. My family is split between the UK and HK. Even if one area is poor.. At least we can look after the other family. This is my intention. So do not berate others until you have walked in someone else's shoes !! Look at China now ! How many people would help their own families out ? Even the SAME son.. would put down his own father, and force HIM out of a job. I read about that story, and I could not believe it. It was so bad. I have absolutely no guilt at all... My family have paid our taxes... My mother also worked in the UK as well. Especially when nobody would hire her back in HK !!! I mean, schools cost money, until it was free. I have zero respect now, for these fights in HK. But I also disrespect, a lot of migrants into HK, who SHOULD NOT BE THERE !!! A lot of people lied through their teeth to get to stay in HK. Some people even cheat the system. THIS IS NOT HOW THINGS SUPPOSED TO GO !!!!
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@rjbjr : Sorry, but people can F OFF... Cos there is no "Single china". This is the point. It is a loose "united" so called "Country"... but in actual fact, it is a region, made up of several countries... Please do not unite people to be under the same, and lose their families, their heritages, and their lands. This is going to cause another civil war. Like many many many wars before that. This is why people hate.. and people DO HATE !!!!! Japan does not have this problem. Korea does not have this problem. Who would want someone else, to invade their homes and their cities ?! Nobody !!!! Would Janssen loves it, if somebody, just went to his home, and invade them ? Steal his house. Steal his identity. Steal his wealth, steal his land ? NOBODY likes this. NOBODY wants this either !!! China is not a meritocracy... and it is obvious that, many people just want the power.. And there is also a lack of democracy as well. Even though you say that there is democracy, but there is not. Even if you look into Europe.. We know who can and who cannot do what, x y or z. This is as designed. People's EQs are extremely high. They would NOT be out of line. Especially on major decisions which kills their own people off... or for their own people to suffer etc. US is a new country. It has to keep reforming its rules and its laws... but they actually are a mini UN. Cos the people from there, are from different regions of Europe. People got their lands. Also, the native Americans were once upon a time, actually North Americans.Some say that they were Siberians... and it is not the Europeans, trying to invade the Siberian's lands. This is what they did. They "conquered" and reduced those people down.. til they are gone, and died out !!! South China, shall NEVER be this way !! This is what Hitler did, he deliberately pushed those people into a train, and killed them in a massive grave !!!! NO TO THIS ONE SINGLE CHINA !!! NO TO THIS SINGLE LANGUAGE !!! Cos this was also what happened during those Nazi years... And same again with cultural revolutions.... "be with me, or be against me".. and then killed the rest of the people. NO !!!!!!
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@rjbjr : You are wrong. The UN was never this big before, and if it was not for the likes of Sun Yat Sen... who tried to bridge the gaps.. and tried to unify the country, and turned people Nationalistic, which is the China Proper part.. then would they have risen to power today ? Overrun by the Mongolian and Russian sub-state ? Stealing such ideas, have collapsed the actual civilisation groups amongst certain regions. Like Amazon tribes... they have been discovered, and nowhere to hide. So much so now that, their child is stolen away to be used to be "retrained". Those of us, who went abroad to study, can still hold these memories... and the sound that our ancestors have said and was taught. And slowly changed. Weitou is no longer even a dialect for HK, never mind to speak the regional formal language like Cantonese/Yue.
Your assumption is that, mandarin is now the "national language" and it is not forced, but it IS forced. Cos kids would get discredited, if they do not follow it. They do not advance. (They get marked at school, and assessed against this marking.) What do you mean, they should and need to ? When the surveillance state comes into play... they would get their scores knocked off, for doing a simple step out of line. This is what will happen. I am afraid that my allies in Taiwan, know so much more of what is going on within the mainland itself, than anywhere else. Read this thread....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_Atlas_of_Chinese_Dialects#/media/File:Map_of_sinitic_languages_full-en.svg
Min/Hakka/mandarin, sound exactly the same.. if you really listen. And to denote that, people have control of their speech, or control of their local areas, is fake. Cos they don't !!! This is the point ! How can a university, (which majority of university in China, was created under the past 100 years only), how can they... suddenly turn and change the course of these people's destinies for the worst ???? If they are not going to help, then they should not help. Cos this is forcing them to be slaves. Economic slaves.
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@rjbjr : Why should these tribes and people, is discovered, and then actually "adopt nationalism" ??? They are their own sovereignty !!! Do you get what this term means ? They are the Kings and the Queens of their own mini-Kingdom !!!
Read these comments. Cos the introduction of the internet, and these so called "fake information" has eroded away these people's own sovereignty and their legitimacies to their own kingdoms ! Like in the past generation... how did these people revolted to invasion ? They fought their way through, and now in this so called technology generation, they have no goddamn ammunition to push back...
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"Fieldwork was conducted between December 2002 and December 2006, and the resulting data entered into a geographic information system.[3][4] The 46 fieldworkers, 34 of whom held doctoral degrees in Chinese dialectology, were assigned to areas they were already familiar with.[8] A single informant was used from each site, typically a male born between 1931 and 1945 who had spent almost all of his life at the site.[7] This was in line with the usual practice in dialect geography elsewhere in the world of using nonmobile, older, rural males (NORMs), as such informants are considered more likely to reflect the traditional speech of the area.[9]
The maps were compiled and collated throughout 2007.[10][11]"
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"Field work".... So these studies take around a mere 30 to 100 people, and put together a mere simple concept, or an idea... and erase, the rest of the 1.4 billion people ??? How much of these sample studies, could have been applied to these poor sods ??? And then, people like this Janssen guy, for the desire to want to trade with so called "China"... of 1.4 billion people, cos they see them as money-making machines... will sell HIS soul... over these people's SOVEREIGNTY ?? So in effect, it makes these poor sods, his slaves ? His marketing slaves ???? Listen to yourself !
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@rjbjr : Are you of Chinese heritage ? And also, are you and have you ever lived in China ? I am Chinese, from the South of China. From Hong Kong. Have been for at least several generations. I think you misunderstood what this video is showing, and telling.. While you are a foreigner to the country. I DO have ties to HK, and therefore China. I find what this say, quite odd, and weird... Cos he portray things, which is not entirely correct, and not 100% correct either. Pompeo is supporting China, and the CCPs. But those of us who are moderate, do try to stick to regional integrities... and I find the words from Elmer Yuen a lot palatable, than what Mr Janssen is saying here... and no, learning mandarin is NOT good !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nweMchOUFUI
This video shows you why a lot of people do not support the CCP members.. They are not even government. This is the point that they are trying to make. But overseas foreigners assume that they are the ruling classes, but actually, they are a mere association of sorts. This is the issue here and now...
About the US surrounding China. Did you know that, Russia give arms to Beijing ?
You should watch the entire series...
"中共賣國史" - PRC's betrayal's history.
They talk of the newspapers and the articles written about the news of the country. From 1900s to the recent days now. How Japan, Manchuria, Mongolia and Russia's relationships are inter-linked.... And how, even how, there is this kind of close relationship between Russia and Beijing/State Council. They speak Cantonese, and are supportive of Southern China... Cos they stated that, the country, was once 5 Nations.
People's Republic of China= 中華人民共和國
共-和-國 = United-Peaceful-Nations.
(Those 5 nations were Tibet/Uyghur/China Proper/Manchuria /Mongolia)
There was not a "single country" concept and state, or intention. The fact that, Mongolia, is now forced and PUSHED to actually speak Mandarin... the Mongolians are pushing back. Rightly so !!! They are big enough to be independent.. and quite solely rightful to be united in their heritage. Mongolia in mondern day, speak a semi version of their language. Cos they have been slowly eroded of their heritage ! Mongolian scripts are not used. And they have been split as well. Inner Mongolia split from Outer Mongolia. And that, they write and use a version of Russian Ping Yum... and not even speak and is not supported to learn their own language. And Russia kept them as slaves. Rather than to build up their environments as well ?? The country is super rich, why are they being suppressed ?!
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這不是當是的事件. 在廣州省, 有很多人講廣州人沒有主權.
沒有邊界. 閩南話 = 普通话. But, you should speak, the language of your ancestors. This is the point. Some people keep saying, "I am from location A, but I speak X." Er... that is because your family invaded, and crossed a boundary line, and smuggled (the word means, to enter into a region, without authority, and illegally), themselves into that region.
This is why the "concept" of "race" or of "people's association" does not work in China !
This shows you the actual "family-tree" in China. People are NOT related.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/World_Map_of_Y-DNA_Haplogroups.png
No wonder Japan invaded and tried to split the people in China, cos they are absolutely correct, to say that, some regions are NOT the same people, and are NOT the same family. And as you can see, even Singapore and Malaysia are of O3... Not even O2, which is the so called Korean/Manchus.... or what SOME people associate as the real "Hans Chinese". But if you looked at Taiwan, the DNA is O1. The aboriginals of Taiwan, is also O1.. It shows you that, "Modern China", which the map shows today, is actually true and true. It is a country made up of several different family-tree and kingdom. It had always been the case ! If only people kept to their towns, and their borders. Then this is fine. Japan and Korea, control who people marry, and most families know who they can and cannot marry, even just using simple surnames alone. Most people marry their own people...
China should no longer "open up". It should not. People need to go back to their own hometowns, and rebuild them, to become more sustainable. Sorry, but they should... Even if you are a worker, just stay somewhere temporarily, sign a contract, and then go back home once you are done. This should have been the way. In order to keep unity in China.
(The mongols invaded, and as you can see.... the O3 is prominent... This is during that Yuan Dynasty..... ) Even Siberians now have no say. Can you see how the Siberians/Mongols, especially the ones who looks like a Westerner ? They were descendents of the Finnish people. Janssen is a Finnish name... and HE has been trying to say this kind of BS line, of course... If people do not wake up and smell the coffee... Whose side is he taking ? People in Europe, would NEVER say what he did !!!
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He did, and people in China, does not know what alphabet or which country, and which country's history it belongs to. Cos they cannot explain to you, even if you tell them that they are wrong. Weird, right ? For them to suddenly realise that, this is "not their own thing" !!! STILL they will not admit to it, cos then, they will be accused of.. by the CCP, or by their own local governing body for "sedition" or "treason"..... Remember, the current day mainland china, is 1.4 billion people, which made up of many many old and historical nations, kingdoms, and tribes. Even today, those citizens, will NOT accept this was the history. Even if modern day archeological findings, say as much as it supports Western knowledge. (Cos they did not know that, the West and the mainland China, had a relationship in the past as well.. They do NOT know this. Even if there are records now, they will accuse and say that it is fake. It is one thing to acknowledge history, but do not accept it as part of modern day life, opposed to deny the history, and then use the history to manipulate people's thoughts and feelings.)
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Find a map of the US from the 1500s. Then you will find out who the Native Americans were.... A lot of them were migrants from Siberia..and from Russia... This is why they look white. In Europe, at least, Europe had a system and it was fair, and it still gave legitimacies to those who were related to the past Kings or Noble people. But in China today... Some of the noble tribes, their chiefs and their people, are marginalised and classified as "Hans".. cos they look "chinese", but their DNA show people that, they have been exclusive, and are the true descendents of the land. Beyond the current ruling class today. Before the central beijing, and before the provincial governors, and CCP members... And all of these people now, are to be expected, to serve and "pay rent"... back to the state. This is the thing.
Because these people have no way to express themselves... in any authority and in any actual position and meetings of an international level. This is why their marginalisation is overlooked by so many people.
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That is what you think, but look at china now, being sanctioned. So, yes... sure, you want to be the next Hitler, carry on. But it seems like the rest of the world, does not agree with you. When people start to realise this point. The so called "country" of 1.4 billion people... Malaysia is only around 32 million people... It is no wonder that, you as a "chinese" in Malaysia, get a lot of sticks, and backlashes... over certain invasion and certain erosions... No wonder in the past, during the 1997s... "Chinese" in Indonesia are burnt to a crisp and killed. Same with Malaysia. Well... I do not blame them !! I don't ! After what I have seen, read, hear, on social media since this lockdown, I have seen how people behave, and how crossing the line that people are. How bullish... This vlog is the same ! There should not have been this "single internet" access or platform at all !!!! So many countries, and their own people are being bulldozed over... Hit, verbally abused, demeaned, attacked emotionally, and verbally. Enough is enough !
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@idiot9450 : That document is meant to be based on some university records, and studies.. Some of these studies, which was taken, from an outsider, kept and preserved a lot of items, which SO many were changed inside of China. Even now the old artefacts, most are stolen, and lost as well. This is how erosion, invasion happens... Until the chinese government, finally put down their foot, and put down people's identities and IDs... Until they finally do that, and put together their family trees... There will never be peace in the country.
People in the mainland forget that... China, is the population size of the entire world in the 1800s. 1.4 billion.. people... So why should there be a "single language" ?? In other countries, like Europe... a "single language" for only around 60 million people. Even in the UK, the people still refuse to speak English. So they bastardised it. In the UK alone, the people who were from the British land.. are actually, Anglo-Saxon/Dutch with Catholics, Romans, and with a few minority from Scandinavia... Mandarin cannot be the single "national" language. Cos the number of people is too large ! There should be "regional/national language". For example, Canton, should speak Yue. Fuijian should speak Min as the national language.
Why does a chinese country have so many English speakers ? Why ??? For copying with ??? Why don't people speak their regional majority language ? And let those people, participate in defining the written form, and the speaking form, and let them discuss it out between them. Why should a single small unit of people, in China... forces, millions of people to comply, to their mind and their brain's thinking and concept ??? NOBODY would kowtow to that !!!!!! To empower people, is to uplift people, is to make them find their roots, and their own identities... People are too obsessed with money. And they are to obsessed with building large scale projects, and not just local and regional projects, which they SHOULD have done. Otherwise, the country would not be losing money so much....
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@idiot9450 : Why is it not my concern? I still hold a HK ID card, and has roots there. Had been going back to HK since I was a child. I also went to school in HK as well. But I travel and worked abroad. So why should I not care ? I do not like people invading my hometown. You would not want to or so do either. And when you look at the US, the SAME thing happens... Nobody f!cking loves Facebook's CEO. The entire Europe blocks the hell out of him from ruining Europe. So why should I , from Canton, not voice my opinion ? That is my heung ha. It is my hometown. It is my language, and heritage. When these so called technology company, kowtow to Beijing, above and beyond local provincial level. Please.. Those Fujian, needs to go back home !!! So why isn't Fuijian built up now ? They should. Mainland's internal market needs to raise itself. It is not a desire to want 1 or 2 or 100 languages. It is that, China IS so big, it is 1.4 BILLION people. How can everybody talks the same, when in actual reality, it is around at least 50 odd "nations", the king of most European countries. Average size of a European country is between 30 to 60 million people. China has around 1.4 BILLION people. The original intention was to split it down to 27 nations. Even though, why do you think that they are called "province" ? Each "province" is actually the size of an European country. So no.. there should not be a single language. There should be united by regional language. And why does a country like China, cannot even stick to their regional language, as the most important first, and then decide on other sub languages, on a "need to" basis ???
The reason why "mandarin" had gotten to the UN level, IS because of crappy lies and stupid mistakes... Cos it allowed the Europeans to asssume that this whole area, was under one single rule, and one single nation. When in reality, it is under several nations, and several actual family-trees and ties. DNA maps now show this and had proven this to be the case also. So how can a small group of people, over run and bulldozed over the rest ??? It makes no sense !
Sorry... I am defending my city, and my province, in the eyes of this international audience.. and you.. You are kowtowing, to this person's assumptions, and their prejudices above your own people, and those local people as well. It would help, if you dispelled that myth !!! This subject should NOT be written by a foreigner to begin with. Cos he is not the subject of expertise ! The chances of lies, is high ! So you are reading an article by a foreigner... on a subject... which he is not the expert of.. and do you see any other foreign readers here online ? Under 2k comments, ALL are from Chinese people !!! He is a magazine writer ! Foreign readers do not CARE !!!!
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@taimingchan8818 : They do not speak Cantonese, is because their parents are NOT from the cantonese region, and have heritages there. If these citizens understood things.. then they would know that, you are supposed to stay in and near your hukuo. i.e. The land that was gifted and given to your ancestors. Due to wars, or whatever, many people run away from their hometowns.. so much so that, they then actually degrade.. and steal.. someone else's family homes or whatever. Some people in China, say this is fine. Cos they changed the law to say that, everybody or everyone's land, is owned by the government. But in reality, this is NOT true ! Some local provincial laws, could be explicit and apply to a small region, and not the entire whole areas.. so person A, could have interpreted whatever whatever, when they socially move from location A to B.
US has around 300 million people. Their perception is to unite more and more people. But China should NOT do that !! And I do not think that China does that, at all. Cos all regions are its own sovereignty and right... They are gifted the land. (i.e. Either ancestors worked hard for them, or that their ancestor was some kind of military/scholar man.) It belongs to them. They can live and farm as long as they like. Cos it belongs to them. Nobody can take this away from them.
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@RyleeLuz : Many foreign companies are exiting out of China right now. And this is appropiate, and correct as well. Cos.. their influence, is also damaging the effect of the local law and enforcements as well.
As much as Cyrus "thinks" that it is acceptable, for an individual, to move from their own home and hukuo... to Shanghai. That couple's is actually classified as "migrants".... in the past, the chinese terms are "Hakka"... "Guest families"... i.e. a family, fled from their own hometowns, and into your hometown. I should not say "hometowns".. but they are "your LAND" !!! Nobody, in Europe... can trespass, into someone else's private land. Nobody. Cos this is also illegal. If the owners did not caught you, then this is something, but if they did catch you. Then yes, they have the right to kill you. (In the UK, we cannot shoot, but they can go to the court and sue you. Or they can call the police, to take you away, off their land.) Same in the US. People tend to shoot you, than to call the police that you are trespassing.
People like Cyrus.. assuming too much.... and is twisting the China's model, into the US model. Cos China signed onto the WTO. NO is NO. It is not ready, and it is not possible !!!
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@wuhuhu1390 : "Mandarin" means in English "the civil servant". What he is doing, is and has been gazillion foreigners been doing as well. Which is to take a simple chinese, or whatever sovereign nations within China itself.. and bastardised it into some kind of Western format, and then overlay it back on top. And then teach the "masses".... What a load of bollocks. 汉语 = Hans chinese , 中國 = Middle of the Nation/Kingdom , 普通话 = Common language . Hans chinese is still revered, because it was a period of times, whereby several nations joined together, to form Hans. But then, when some Hans... married off.. or intermingled with Northern tribes. They, themselves are no longer Hans. Some people say, within the Hans culture, this is possible... They are still Hans. But ask yourself.. are they really ? Some of these were tribes. But without order... or structure found in Hans society. Is following this now make them their own tribe, or have they converted into Hans ?? (What people do not know is that, the Northern areas... some were actually white caucasians... and over time, they integrated with Hans DNA.. and turned "middle xia" aka Chinese. Why do you think that the foreign minister often use the terms "Hua/Xia" ??? 官话 means "Mandarin". It means, the language spoken within the imperial palace. It is "palace language". Back in the days... people were not able to enter the imperial palaces... Cos it is only those who were invited, or found a way to be let in, then they were in.
This "republic" period, has killed off... so many people in China.. it has absolutely just... atrocious. Really atrocious... All in the name of "economics"... They threw away their heritages... and just lost their families heirloom and sold their souls.
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@taimingchan8818 : I live in the UK, and I am super aware of the model which China has. Cos it is similar... and you can see why. So those who speaks as if the country is actually a single country, with a single race, is beyond their assumptions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_China#Village_level
"The constitution of China provides for three de jure levels of government. Currently, however, there are five practical (de facto) levels of local government: the provincial (province, autonomous region, municipality, and special administrative region), prefecture, county, township, and village."
HK is my 鄉下. Way before it was redeveloped into an urban zone.
"13,749 Townships (鄉; xiāng): in smaller rural areas division they are divided into this subject"
A "banner" is actually a mongolian state. If you read the above link, what really has happened is that, Hans chinese concepts, are overlaid with Mongolian concepts... and several old "kingdom" also exists amongst that list. That is why.... (And as you can imagine, people will cheat, and milk the state, as much as they could. i.e. Lie, cheat, steal... )
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@Shenzhou. : The facts are facts. The law is the law. If you want to take the side of the law breaker, than you are the criminal. Do not drag me and use me as a scapegoat or whatever..... And it is clear that SOME people are being honest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_Ree4Dtg2g
Yukon Huang - World Bank (Asia). If one of the highest man, who speaks out about the decisions and the actions of the various entities within the mainland. Then I do not know how you can speak FOR the ENTIRE country. Sorry!
China do not wage war, but it wages economic wars... Otherwise, I would not be locked down right now, at home. Some people stated clearly that... whoever had the virus, should pay out. Cos this lockdown should NOT have happened ! Who called the locked down ?? Who ? Which country ?? So now... everyone loses. Poverty is very real.
And this BS talk about "I am from china.. I am MORE poor" BS line... Er... You pay 1 yuan for a bag of rice. I pay like 100 times MORE, for that SAME bag of rice. Do you think this is fair ? If you have not done maths, please go and study your maths on ratios. Why do I pay more for the same thing, when you get it for much less ? And yet, you can dare to come online and tell me that you guys are "poor" ??? Chi sin !!! There is a phrase in English...."Keeping up with the Joneses"... Meaning, people in China now.. is jealous of other countries. Or jealous of their wealth. But that wealth actually means they have to pay for things at a higher price. Their housing is higher. Their utilities are higher. Each region have their own wage ratio. So does the UK. So I do not know why people keep saying that, others are "better". I cannot believe the kind of BS people that writes online... Making me feel guilty, when I have to pay so much more compared to you guys. That is the joke of the century.
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@Shenzhou. : It is a language rule. Whereas, you actually did a "ping yum" action on the writing itself, and "tried" to translate word for word. But you cannot do that. Cos it comes across as losing the meaning ! This is why, when Cyrus here says "Mandarin is a NATIONAL" language, you can see ALL of the SE Asians.. those outside of mainland, and outside of HK, has MISUNDERSTOOD !!! Goodness me. One single wrong translation, provokes anger, aggressive, bullying, and deliberate misleading context ! He is doing a "畫蛇天竹" !! Now, do you understand ?! I think that, classic traditional Chinese study, needs to be brought back into the mainland. Seriously... cos you guys have absolutely no actual understanding of something... And the rating for education, has gone down in HK as well. Even though, their previous generation's standard, was actually "like for like", as if the learner is exactly born in those countries. And now, with these so called "teachers", who does not know how things are themselves anyway... Tries to teach. Blind leading the blind comes to mind. There is a lot of "giving face" to students in China. This is a given. However... the world has already moved on any way.... So it is not necessary to "learn like a local" any more. Cos others do not want to trade as much any more. People can still manage without really getting such deep knowledge. Just a general skill to be able to further educate, IF you need to, is already good enough. Learn to be able to read, and write, in chinese, or in English, is good enough. By that, I do not mean "ping yum". I mean, to be able to read a piece of writing, and understand it 100%. Not to understand it 20%, or think what you understand, and add the extra 30%, to make 130%.
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@wuhuhu1390 : I'm sorry if you think that I was a fake. I stand corrected.
"汉语 = Hans chinese , 中國 = Middle of the Nation/Kingdom , 普通话 = Common language ."
Isn't it funny that you assume I am not chinese. I am Cantonese, from Hong Kong. So yes, last of those descendents from genuine Hans, and not of Mongolian bloodlines. And it is funny that you say this:
"Ethnicity means sharing common bloodline, culture and identity. It doesn't mean pure DNA, there's no 100% uniform human genome anyway. Japanese have 35% Han Chinese gene marker 03, so does Korean. But their ethnicity remained Japanese and Koreans. So does Mongolian."
Sharing "common bloodlines" ??? Er.... not everyone "shared" any bloodlines, or did you not know this ??? It is funny that, you assume that social mobility could happen, can happen, and should happen. Some people do not move out of their designated areas, cos they know that, they are entering into another Kingdom. So weird of me, to read that you do not assume so, or think so either. You assume that you have absolute "rights" regardless ??? I do not think that is, and was how the country was made up. And please do not follow such foreigners in THEIR explainations either !!! (Baidu was only created in our generation. The info on there, has not always and often been clarified !!!! And there had been a lot of lies as well !!! And this man has no evidence to make the assumptions that he has !)
"No 100% uniform human genome ?" I gather you have zero knowledge of how DNA works.. I do feel sorry for you. DNA can tell you exactly who is a decendent of who, what, and when. So much for people lying on the internet. Go back to school. The Japanese, and Koreans are descendents of Hans China.. so why would they not have this in their DNA make up ??? "Their ethnicity" ?? The reason why they are called Japanese, and Koreans is because they split family from the mainland. And they do not allow anyone to enter their Kingdom. So then they interbreed amongst themselves. This is why they have the DNA of Hans. Mongolians invaded China... This is also why they have the DNA of Hans.
You do not even know the history of China, never mind people's DNAs. This is one of those things that, the verbal argument, make others loses their lands, their families, and invasion happens. Even now, I see the same in China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Neolithic_cultures_of_China
The above line, is the entire history of which area, belonged to which tribe, or culture. So much so for you to not accept that there had been invasion !!! And people like this Cyrus guy is messing up and creating chaos amongst citizens !!!
"官话 means Official Speak, as spoken in imperial court. In most country, it would simply means Official or Standard Chinese. In UK, it's called Queen's English/Standard English. The imported term Mandarin simply makes no sense. This is what I'm driving. Chinese person would understant. You're fake."
Sorry, but YOU are the fake. This is whereby you are WRONG. Some countries, use an official language, cos it has been agreed, via a contract. And via participation. Via exchange, and via acceptance. But Qing dynasty did NOT have anybody agreeing to use non-Chinese as THE de facto language ! In fact, it has been rejected MANY times ! Over and over and over again !!!! The fact that people are taught mandarin.. and not chinese, is the real sad story here. Nothing except that. And they do not even know how to write proper chinese characters, cos they are missing some brush strokes. In a country called "China"... They cannot even write Chinese ? Joke of the century. Go back home you Mongol !!! You fake !!!
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@wuhuhu1390 : You see, someone like you, accuse others of "wrong things". I said, I am chinese. I may be the first child in my family to be born in the UK, just because my mother was there at that time. This is due to her work. I then went back to HK to be raised until I was much older, before coming back to the UK for schools. So yes, I went to junior schools in HK, and of course I can speak Cantonese ! Even though I have told you these personal facts, you still say BS and insulting lines like, "you are not chinese". Even when I have tried to show you where I am from. You still lie, back to my face, and say that I am not. Sorry... a fact is a fact. Just because, I wrote something in mistake, your assumption is that, my lineage and heritage does not exist ? That it is "false" by any standard ? You do not find what you say insulting, and accusative towards another person, whom have told you something about herself ??? That is very rich of you. Rude is an understatement. Yes, you may say, I wrote something wrong about history of China. But you cannot say that I lied about my race. Lol.... What a joke ! Because you are accusing my mother of sleeping with someone to produce a none chinese child !!! How dare you !!! You do not think before you write ?? So you can make a lot of assumption of somebody, based on a single piece of post online ??? If this is your deductive reasoning skills, then I do not know what to say. By the way... I have a degree in science. I know what DNA means, and how it interacts, and I have worked with a genetics company. Fancy that.... How come you make a lot of assumptions, and do not know how to actually "interpret" the DNA datas... ( I bet you now, would actually regret picking on some random person?) And oh... those DNA video on youtube, is a little bit mistaken in their interpretation of DNA data. When they often say..."you are a quarter of this race". This is a false narrative. What they mean, is in context of that family unit only. It does not bear any other direct correlation towards the DNA lineage.
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@wuhuhu1390 : You just argued with somebody, over the English language. They are telling you that you made a translation mistake. Because you did not understand the difference between an adjective to that of a noun. "Chinese Communist Party". The first word "chinese" is being used here as adjective here. Not as a noun. In truth, it should be written as "Chinese's" as in it belongs to the chinese. But from ping yum, then yes, it may follow what you say. But in the English language, it is a language rule. Either you can make the party look weird and stupid in front of others, or you use it the correct way to raise its profile. Which is it to be ? The reason why "united states" of America... because it IS a united (group of) states. Noticed that it is not state, as in a singular, but it is plural. State-s. More than one state. On this note, I want to post this link, which dispels ALL myths !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3zaY3EA-80&list=PLjSIHCoR9kYof3pyGuxDCyUddxwYbsXZf&index=2
This talks about the rationale that Mao had during his working life. He stated that, there is to be 27 "nations" !!!
He wrote 10 essays... on the "nations", during his rule as a CCP party.
Japan wanted 7 nations. Mao suggested 27 nations !!!
And now, you are saying that, these other "nations", or "provinces" have absolutely NO say in their lives ?! Well, I can say that, you can p!ss off !!!! 您去死,豬狗 !
Do you know who is 袁爸爸 ?? Maybe it is time that you dug up some of the old art pictures of the old dynasty's imperial governors.... Most people can now trace their family-trees. It is a lie, for some people to say that, some people have actually lost their heritage. It is obvious that in this group of 4 people, these are Nationalists... Cos they know who is "China Proper"....
Who helped the communists to rise, and who left the tools in Manchuria in the North East ? Only then for those army tools to be picked up by the Russians, and killed more Manchu people ??!!!!
Why don't you try and trace the family name Jassen.. 死豬狗 !
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@r.a.8618 : This is the thing, the topic is legitimate. Cos to the foreigners, and non-Chinese speakers, their assumption is there, there is a SINGLE DE FACTO language IN China. But EVERYBODY inside of China, KNOWS THAT IS NOT TRUE !!!! This is why people are kicking up a BIG fuss now ! And this foreigner poster, is being a super asshole, to marginalise those who ARE Chinese, and cause a scene, so that people FIGHT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XaCdz6eLjI&t=725s
(A good example of how migrants have moved to a location, and taken their language with them. This is Sun Yat Sen's hometown. It should be part of the Yue family tree, but some migrants from Fuijian, have taken the Min language into the location, and cross-bred both languages into one. So some colloquial understanding is there. If you really listen, it can be assumed as "Hakka"....Which is the Min family tree.)
Looking at this alone, it can show you, what kind of languages have been eroded away... and slowly, some of the migrants, who took their own language with the, has ALSO been eroded away !! This is very disgusting, in all honesty. I do not tell "Janssen" to speak SOLEY Finnish to me. Cos Janssen is a Finnish name !!! Not German !!! He lied about that ! Just cos he can longer speak his ancestral language, does not make him an American ! He just denied his own roots. For most people in China, of course, they know their hometown, and where it is !
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You left China. And those overseas chinese, should not actually listen to media channels that is not projecting their own language, cos then they would never learn. This is the problem. I am from Canton, and I listen to Cantonese songs. This is GOOD. Other regions have started to do the same too. i.e. Protect their own languages.
Watch this sad story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZXZD_TAoYs
I can tell that she speaks another language, and it is nothing close to Chinese. It has another layer in there somewhere. Her translated words... "I wish I could speak Xibe"... She is pampering and kowtowing to those who cannot speak her language in her own hometown. So she make concession to those newcomers. Even in doing so, the state, or the educational sector tried to dumb down and play down her language ? So how come they do not promote some of these locals, into being teachers. Into being politicians. Into promoting and strengthening her own identities, as well as their own languages and speakings ? And why not even go as far as translating books from other languages INTO their own ?! This should be what happens !!!! And not to learn "mandarin" as a standard....
And for anybody who knows that dance. Those are some moves from typical Cantonese opera as well. I am sure that, in tribal life... They did not have this as a form of dance.
Another sad story.... and the man is maybe really manchu, but his eyes are blue. He is a kind of Siberian.... if people knew the history of the North East.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_zVzLFJWJQ
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Yes, but the people who set the speech was not, and did not communicate with the people who set the immigration, and the working groups and the migrations... The assumption is that, these people can have carte blanche anyway to do what they like. But the reality is, many people do not accept this. The point raised that, introducing the simplified format (which helps the Northerners increase their speech and education level ) would alienate those in the South, like HK or Macau, and even Taiwan... cos it erodes the historical language development. Just cos the Manchus, or the Mongols did not know, the Hans and the Tang dynastic development, and the "ping yum" system. i.e. Practice the caligraphic writing, and use two tones to logically derive the sound. The old dictionaries for Hans chinese writing still follow this logic. I bet this has been eradicated now, or pushed to some stupid "university level", when that was THE BASIC school level back in the 1950s, 60s, 70s and even 1980s !!! Those scholars never got this kind of salaries that people get today ! Even if they knew MORE !!! The arrogant sods of this youthful generation now..... Asses !!!
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If you listened to what he said.. This is "Shanghainese".. Er.... that is BS. Cos he was speaking French !! Chi sin. Old Shanghai... spoke a version of Wu.. or a semi version, which is a little bit off... from manchurian. This man, is extremely un-educated.. and talks BS.
You have to remember this, many "Western concepts and academia", was written by Westerners,... and not with Eastern academia...or from Eastern scholars. What you talk about, I accept. Cos... even take me, as an example... I am from HK. That is, the indigenous families of HK. Which had around 600 families at that time when the British took over. Some of us, were living there, even before the Ming dynasty collapsed. "Punti" (which is an odd English word... but it means... "locals"...you can see why this kind of mis-translation went on, can't you ? Cos during the English pinyin, there did not exist an actual formal system to pinyin with.).... ... which are the locals.. There was the locals.. and then there was a first migration wave.. of the Hans chinese... And then a second migration wave.. of Hakka.. This was that period of the Hakka (migrants) and Punti (local) war... They fought. What does this piece of history tells you ? It tells you that, during Ming dynasty rule, when Hans people still existed. There are actual rules to separate people, and regions. Crossing over from one area to another is not allowed. This is why those specific people were called "hak-ka" (guest families). --- I do not know, how THAT description, have led some people, in modern day 2020, to believe that "Hakka" was a "race" of people. Er... no !... Some of these "hakka" spoke "Wu"... as a language.. or they spoke differently. We need proper linguists.. to analyse, whether some of these so called words were... actually formal.. or actually... systemically mis-interpreted.
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