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1. Our new leader, Margarine Thatcher, who in only 3 weeks has become PM, finished off The Queen, taken 2 weeks away from work, ruined our relations with the US, crashed the economy, and started backbench rebellion to remove her from office.
2. Having performed 4 cowardly U-turns during her own endless leadership campaign, Truss now seems to now think was is the key to her success
3. So she unthinkingly announced she’d be accompanying the new (yet also very old) King on his tour of Britain
4. She then bravely announced she wouldn’t be doing that at all
5. And then she boldly claimed she’d never said she would
6. Having demonstrated her lack of brain and courage, the PM completed her Wizard of Oz impression by introducing us to her missing heart.
7. She lovingly told us tax cuts worth 1800x more for the richest 5% than the poorest 5% were "entirely fair"
8. And in a sign she was ending the grotesque expenditure of Boris Johnson, in her last year at the Home Office she increased dept spending by 45% on items including:
9. Fine dining at luxury restaurants
10. “Extensive supplies from top wineries”
11. £1,840 for Norwich City mementos
12. Luxury wallpaper – does any of this sound familiar – provided by Osborne and Little (George Osborne’s family business)
13. £1,800 on a “wellness” app
14. £4,000 at a top hairdresser (who presumably also does the Thatcher doll at Tussauds )
15. £10,000 at Fortnum and Mason
16. And a £900 adult colouring book, cos we’re now governed by people who don’t read books, merely apply crayons
17. Then she went to the USA, and was so successful the White House said it would suspend the “special relationship”
18. Having assured us a trade deal with USA would be done "in weeks" if we voted for Brexit, Truss now told us there is no possibility of a deal with the USA
19. In a further effort to wipe from our minds the endless squalor and scandal of the Johnson years, her new Chief of Staff features in an FBI bribery investigation, is employed by a lobbying firm and only “seconded” to Number 10, and seems to be using tax-avoiding measures
20. A top Truss backer said of the Chief of Staff: “I've never heard of such an arrangement, and it is obviously quite wrong”
21. So this week the govt changed the rules to make his alleged tax-avoiding measures legal
22. Simon Clarke, a mouse-fart made flesh and shoved into a beige suit, explained the reason the Tories had been complete dogshit for 12 years is that they “haven’t had a clear run” and it had been “crisis after crisis”
23. He voted for all those crises (Tory permacrisis)
Courtesy of Russ Jones
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The Australians made an outsized contribution in both World Wars. Their battle honours include: Gallipoli, Fromelles, Pozières, Bullecourt, Messines, Ypres, Menin Road, Polygon Wood, Passchendaele, Villers-Bretonneux, Hamel, Amiens, Mont St Quentin, Hindenburg Line, Beersheba, Damascus; Bardia, Tobruk, Syria, Malaysia, Greece, Crete, El Alamein, New Guinea, Borneo. Large numbers of Australians served in the RAF.
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"needs their head examining". Why would you say that? Under Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 12 years?
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A friend of mine works in IT. He has a good analogy: When IT works, it's completely invisible and transparent, it's boring, it's like your kettle, your fridge or your cooker, it's a tool you don't even think about when you're using it every day.
When IT goes wrong, it's the apocalypse, but at no point do you look yourself, no, it's anyone else's fault, not you, no no no. IT is always someone else's problem, not yours. Politics should work like IT when it's working, invisible, transparent, boring.
Yet we should be engaged and understand how it works so we can do the most basic of troubleshooting to at least pass on helpful information to the professionals about what the issue might actually be.
There is an abbreviation in IT: PICNIC Problem In Chair Not In Computer. I'd rather parliament be full of dull boring people doing their jobs properly with quiet competence than the previous party that we have allowed to happen.
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Maybe you have a short memory.
Under Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 13 years?
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The human cost of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict (deaths/injuries): documented by the UN:
2008:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 3,202
Israel 🇮🇱: 853
2009:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 7,460
Israel 🇮🇱: 123
2010:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 1,659
Israel 🇮🇱: 185
2011:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 2,260
Israel 🇮🇱: 136
2012:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 4,936
Israel 🇮🇱: 578
2013:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 4,031
Israel 🇮🇱: 157
2014:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 19,860
Israel 🇮🇱: 2,796
2015:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 14,813
Israel 🇮🇱: 339
2016:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 3,572
Israel 🇮🇱: 222
2017:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 8,526
Israel 🇮🇱: 174
2018:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 31,558
Israel 🇮🇱: 130
2019:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 15,628
Israel 🇮🇱: 133
2020:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 2,781
Israel 🇮🇱: 61
11:30 AM · Oct 9, 2023
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On the sets of adult movies, there used to be a class of employee belonging to the makeup department, called a fluffer.
The job of the fluffer was to ensure that the male star’s member was fully erect before shooting started. It saved time, and ensured that the male performer was good to go as soon as the cameras began to roll. How the fluffer did this was very much up to the conscience of the individual fluffer, but I’m sure you can imagine.
Fluffers are not much used anymore—not in adult films, anyway.
Instead, fluffers have moved from adult entertainment to the world of what you might call ‘newstainment’.
Jacob Rees-Mogg is a fluffer.
His job is not to tell the truth, but to stroke his viewers’ opinions in such a way that their generally unfocused sense of grievance rears up, turgid and stiff, so that they can wave it about in public as if it were something to be proud of.
Truth ain’t nothing to do with it.
Jacob Rees-Mogg just wants to get your blood flowing.
And he was very good at it, wasn’t he? Because you’re dancing to his tune right now.
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After the effect of 'Mr Bates vs the Post Office', let’s hope Toby Jones is also working on new TV dramas about water pollution, climate change, covid, PPE contracts, the refugee crisis, the cost of living, energy prices, Grenfell, homelessness, social care, education and the NHS.
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Between 1997 and 2010 Labour was continuously in government. Here are Labour’s top 50 achievements during those years.
Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.
Low mortgage rates.
Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
Employment is at its highest level ever.
Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
85,000 more nurses.
32,000 more doctors.
Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
Restored city-wide government to London.
Record number of students in higher education.
Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
£200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
Banned fox hunting.
Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
Free TV licences for over-75s.
Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
Free eye test for over 60s.
More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
Free entry to national museums and galleries.
Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.
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Under Blair and Brown:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and yes the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation of our great cities: Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– a Britain in Europe’s mainstream not in Europe’s slipstream
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 12 years?
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I'm a patriot - not a nationalist like these Brexiteers - who wants the UK to live up to its ideals, which means asking us to be our best selves. A patriot has universal values, standards by which they judge the nation, always wishing it well - and wishing it can do better.
A nationalist - people like yourself, Johnson, Farage, Trump, Le Pen, Putin et al - encourages people to be our worst and then tells us that we are the best. A nationalist, "although endlessly brooding on power, victory, defeat, revenge," wrote Orwell, tends to be "uninterested in what happens in the real world." Nationalism is relative, since the only truth is the resentment we feel when we contemplate others. As the novelist Danilo Kis put it, nationalism "has no universal values, aesthetic or ethical."
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The Tories have underfunded every component of the criminal justice system: police, courts, legal aid, prisons, probation officers, etc. Their austerity policies also underfunded schools, community centres, sport, mental health services, social services, libraries etc. No wonder crime rates are higher than expected.
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Trump is a stable genius. “So I said, ‘Let me ask you a question, and [the guy who makes boats in South Carolina] said, ‘Nobody ever asked this question,’ and it must be because of MIT, my relationship to MIT —very smart. He goes, I say, ‘What would happen if the boat sank from its weight? And you’re in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery and the battery is now underwater and there’s a shark that’s approximately 10 yards over there?’ By the way, a lot of shark attacks lately, do you notice that, a lot of sharks?" he asked. "I watched some guys justifying it today. ‘Well, they weren’t really that angry. They bit off the young lady’s leg because of the fact that they were, they were not hungry, but they misunderstood what who she was.’ These people are crazy. He said there’s no problem with sharks. ‘They just didn’t really understand a young woman swimming now.’ It really got decimated and other people do a lot of shark attacks.”
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Nobel Prize winning Economists who signed a letter saying Harris' agenda was vastly better for the US Economy: Daron Acemoglu, George A. Akerlof, Abhijit Banerjee, Sir Angus Deaton, Peter A. Diamond, Douglas Diamond, Esther Duflo, Robert F. Engle III, Claudia Goldin, Sir Oliver Hart, Guido W. Imbens, Simon Johnson, Eric S. Maskin, Daniel L. McFadden, Robert C. Merton, Roger B. Myerson, William D. Nordhaus, Edmund S. Phelps, Paul M. Romer, Alvin E. Roth, Robert J. Shiller, Joseph E. Stiglitz and Richard H. Thaler.
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If you voted Tory in 2010 to reduce debt, you made a mistake. They increased public sector debt every year.
If you voted for Brexit to make us richer, you made a mistake. It has made us much, much poorer.
If you voted for Brexit to improve all the trading we could do when we were free of the EU, you made a mistake. Our trading has gone off a cliff.
If you voted Tory to reduce inequality, you made a mistake. Inequality in the UK is now higher than any comparable economy except USA.
If you voted Tory to improve law and order, you made a mistake. Police numbers tumbled after they took office.
If you voted Tory to reduce immigration, you made a mistake. Immigration from the EU shrank, but from the rest of the world it grew.
If you voted Tory or Brexit to improve your wages, you made a mistake. Growth since 2015: Germany: 40%, France: 39%, UK: 9%
We're 1/4 the wage performance of our economic rivals.
If you voted Tory to reduce the number of people waiting for NHS treatment, you made a mistake. Numbers have grown every year (except during Covid, when most non-urgent treatments were postponed)
If you voted Tory reduce waiting times, you made a mistake. They've also increased every year.
If you voted Tory to improve education funding, you made a mistake.
If you voted Tory to reduce the amount of council tax you pay, you made a mistake.
If you voted for Tories to stamp down on corruption, you made a mistake. It has risen hugely, before even factoring in the 20% of Covid contracts that raised a "red flag" for corruption by international standards.
If you voted Tory to reduce racist or other hate crimes, you made a mistake.
If you voted Tory to control inflation, that was a mistake. UK inflation hits 30 year high.
If you voted Tory to make housing more affordable, that was a mistake.
If you voted Tory because you wanted good leadership, you made a mistake. Cameron scores worse than even Brown, and Theresa May worse than anybody. They are HUGELY negative in all categories.
And this doesn't even include Boris Johnson.
Next time you're nodding along to the Tories, just stop for a moment, and remember all the times you agreed with them in the past.
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Sigh ... when Starmer was photographed drinking beer, the restrictions for the public had been partially lifted, and mixing indoors for work was allowed. Including eating meals at your desk.
He was working.
In addition, the govt had further relaxed restrictions to allow political parties to campaign during the elections. He was in Durham on a campaign visit, and working in a campaign office (Durham City MP Mary Foy's office). Nobody denies this. It was permitted.
The claim he "ate £200 of curry" sounds excessive until you find out the bill was for the entire office, not one man. Even at £15 a head - a pretty modest amount for a pretty standard curry and beer - that's only 13 people.
Police already looked into all this and found no laws were broken, and no case to answer.
A few days ago we were told we should ignore Boris Johnson parties because there's a war, and it's a waste of police time.
There is still a war. Getting police to investigate twice - when the evidence I've shown proves no law broken - is 2x waste of time.
And it hardly needs pointing out that Boris Johnson headed the gov that wrote the rules. It was one party, it was at least 12. Over 50 people have been fined and a further 100 questioned, with more fines expected.
Very different from dinner at work at a time the law allowed it
We all know why they're pushing this story. Sling mud, hope some sticks, and distract from Johnson, Sunak, Hancock mixing with Randox, Rees-Mogg, rapists, coke-heads, tractor wankers, "sexist of the year" awards, and Nadine Dorries being incapable of the most basic of human tasks.
But it's still worth pointing out what utter bollocks the whole thing is, and how a simple look at the legal restrictions at the time of the photo proves nothing illegal was done. It takes two minutes.
Every single "journalist" pushing this story must know it to be false.
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What did Labour do under Blair?
SInce you asked, under Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 14 years?
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THE 26 LAWS OF BREXIT
1. Brexit means Brexit
2. Put 3 Brexiters in a room, and they will emerge with 4 versions of Brexit.
3. The 2016 referendum represents the largest democratic mandate ever. It just does, ok. (The turnout in the Scottish referendum and in many past GEs, and the total number of votes cast in the 1992 GE don't count.)
4. 17.4 million people represent a majority of an electorate of 46,500,001, and of a population of 65 million.
5. "Will of the People" is the equivalent of QED at the end of a scientific proof.
6. If Brexit's not succeeding, it's because you're not believing hard enough.
7. All the following are working together to block the One True Brexit: Remainers, judges, Labour, most Tories, MPs in general, the Lords, the royal family, mass media, experts, economists, the woke, business leaders, foreign firms, facts, stats, reality, the EU, did I mention the EU?, oh and the EU of course!
8. What do experts know? They only have knowledge and experience to go by.
9. It is impossible to predict the future because it hasn't happened yet.
10. A prediction that doesn't come true is a lie.
11. Irish border? Just a red line on a map, innit.
12. Eton- and Oxford-educated millionaires and hedge fund owners are bound to want exactly the same from Brexit as the average person in Britain.
13. Democracy is dead if we have a second referendum, especially if we lose it.
14. We can time travel back to the good bits of 1975 by leaving the EU.
15. The best way to ingratiate ourselves with our largest European trading partner is to keep mentioning the war. If it's good enough for Basil Fawlty...
16. The less you understand Brexit, the more you are obliged to talk about it in military terms.
17. Pointing out that demographic changes since the referendum favour Remain is exactly the same as wishing old people dead. Heck, why not just go the whole hog and kill them yourself?
18. The EU's such a weak, failing institution, it will collapse if someone blows in its general direction.
19. The EU are brutish bullies who do nothing but boss us around, and dictate terms.
20. Our reality is better than your reality, because ours is British.
21. Every time you deny Brexit, a unicorn dies. Murderer!
22. International law is more of a suggestion.
23. No matter what version of Brexit gets implemented, it will never be the Brexit you voted for.
24. Lies become true if you shout them loud enough (flecks of spittle add to the veracity).
25. Whatever your political allegiance, the BBC is biased against you.
26. One day, we'll all be dead.
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Russia has played its hand badly: Hostomel, Kyiv, Kharkiv, Sumy, or Chernihiv, Ukrainian breakthroughs at Izium and Kupyansk, Black Sea Fleet debacle, liberation of Kherson, 3,000 Russian tanks destroyed or captured, dozens of Russian generals killed, oil refineries burning across Russia, shot down A-50s, Finland and Sweden now part of NATO, 40% of government spending on the military etc.
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Which "indigenous" children? The UN recognizes very few Indigenous populations within Europe, which are confined to the far north and far east of the continent.
Notable Indigenous minority populations in Europe that are recognized by the UN include the Sámi peoples of northern Norway, Sweden, and Finland and northwestern Russia; the Uralic Nenets, Samoyed, and Komi peoples of northern Russia;[152] the Circassians of southern Russia and the North Caucasus; the Crimean Tatars, Krymchaks, and Crimean Karaites of Crimea in Ukraine; the Basques of Basque Country, Spain and southern France; the Sorbs of Germany and Poland, the Irish Travellers of the island of Ireland, and the Sardinians of Sardinia.
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Why would people vote for Labour?
Under Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 12 years?
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Trump sounds like he is spiraling right now:
“When I saw that rocket came down, when I saw that sucker come down 22 stories, by the way, you know, if people think it's like, 5 feet high, it's 22 stories that sucker is coming down and it's, those engines were blowing all computers, it's all computers, you know, it's true, I think I said, oh man, it's gonna crash, no, it's going right into the gantry, right. It's gonna crash and then the engines, the fire starts blowing the bottom left, the whole bottom left is blowing and it just pushed it and then it came down and those two big arms, you saw the arms, they grab that thing like you grab your beautiful baby, see, I felt much better years ago, I would have said something else, but I've learned yet, yes or no, I would have been a little bit more risque like you grab your child, you grab your child and I put it in place… He said that’s genius. He said yeah, it's it was a lot of, a lot of brain power went into that. I said, why do you do that? He said, well, we don't want to drop a ship in the ocean… I said, can Russia do that?”
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I don’t think there is anyone in America - Republican, Democrat, independent; journalist, non-journalist - who can deny the fact that if Biden or Harris had simulated oral sex on a microphone at a rally on the eve of the election, there would be wall to wall coverage of it on cable, the front page of every paper in the land, and 24/7 demands for them to quit the race.
The debate over media bias and the pass that Trump gets, the total normalization of his abnormal behavior, is over, dead, done, finished. It’s indisputable at this point.
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Indigenous minority populations in Europe that are recognized by the UN include the Sámi peoples of northern Norway, Sweden, and Finland and northwestern Russia; the Uralic Nenets, Samoyed, and Komi peoples of northern Russia; the Circassians of southern Russia and the North Caucasus; the Crimean Tatars, Krymchaks, and Crimean Karaites of Crimea in Ukraine; the Basques of Basque Country, Spain and southern France; the Sorbs of Germany and Poland, the Irish Travellers of the island of Ireland, and the Sardinians of Sardinia.
Just to clarify, were you referring to Irish Travellers? BTW there are no "indigenous british[sic]".
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@Romdormer Very well put. These critics have very short memories. It wasn't long ago, during the pandemic, when parents who had to home school during the first lockdown, were praising teachers, saying they now appreciate what a difficult and demanding job teaching is. And that was only teaching their own kids! Not a class full of varying abilities and motivations, kids from low socioeconomic families, families where English is not the first language, or where there are safeguarding concerns etc.
The polarisation pushed by the right here and in the US, these ceaseless culture wars, are all the right has to offer. Their economic policies have failed dismally, they know they are much safer terrain by engaging in culture wars.
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Excellent post Laurence.
The Tories said they were going to control the national debt. It's gone up every year they've been in office.
The Tories said Brexit would make us richer. It's made us far poorer.
The Tories said they would reduce inequality. Our inequality is one of the worst in the OECD
The Tories said they'd fix the NHS. NHS waiting list is the highest on record, and was also the highest on record before Covid.
The Tories said they'd reduce council tax. The amount you pay has gone up every year.
The Tories said they'd be a clean, transparent govt. Corruption has risen hugely, and that's before even factoring in the 20% of Covid contracts that raised a "red flag" for corruption by international standards.
The Tories said they'd solve housing problems. Housing prices have ballooned and the crisis gets worse every year.
The Tories said they'd increase education funding. Education funding has plummeted.
The Tories said they'd resolve social problems. Racial and other hate crimes have bloomed.
Tories said they'd improve our productivity. Productivity has dropped below the levels under Labour.
Tories said they'd be strong on law and order. They cut over 20,000 police and almost 1/4 of prison and probation staff.
Tories said they'd solve migration. They drove out almost 100,000 EU-born NHS staff, immigration from the rest of the world increased, and now they're arguing about how to reverse it all.
Tories said they'd control inflation. Right...
Tories promised they'd reduce taxes. The UK's tax burden is the highest for 70 years.
The Tories promised sound government and good leadership. Ahem...
Tories promised high wages. Wage growth since 2015 Germany: 40% France: 39% UK: 9% They've delivered 1/4 the wage performance of our economic rivals.
But they cut tax for the rich, and slashed corporation tax to one of the lowest in the OECD. They're looking after the already-wealthy, but failing in every other way. So unless you own a corporation or are one of the richest 5% of Britons, you're very, very wrong to vote Tory.
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@orkneyancestor2059 Isaac Newton, Leonardo da Vinci, Charles Darwin, Ḥasan Ibn al-Haytham, Werner Heisenberg, Albert Einstein, Marie Curie, John Maynard Keynes, William Shakespeare, Mark Twain, Leo Tolstoy, Marcel Proust, Srinivasa Ramanujan, James Joyce, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Erwin Schrödinger, Benjamin Franklin, Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni, Frank Gehry, Ludwig van Beethoven, Plato.
I can't be bothered explaining why those people are brilliant. I don't need to.
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When you are in town, wearing some kind of uniform is helpful, policeman, priest, etc.. Driving a tank is very impressive, or a car with official lettering on the side. If that isn't to your taste you could join the revolution, wear an armband, carry a homemade flag tied to a broom handle, or a placard bearing an incendiary slogan. At the very least you should wear a suit and carry a briefcase and a cell phone, or wear a team jacket and a baseball cap and carry a cell phone. If you go into the woods, the back country, someplace past all human habitation, it is a good idea to wear orange and carry a gun, or, depending on the season, carry a fishing pole, or a camera with a big lens. Otherwise it might appear that you have no idea what you are doing, that you are merely wandering the earth, no particular reason for being here, no particular place to go.
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@Chris T Really? What about Iron Age Britons, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings or Normans?
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@Carl Collins Of course I remember Blair. Do you remember what Labour achieved under Blair?
Good Friday Agreement
Independent Bank of England
Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.
Low mortgage rates.
Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
Employment is at its highest level ever.
Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
85,000 more nurses.
32,000 more doctors.
Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
Restored city-wide government to London.
Record number of students in higher education.
Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
£200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
Banned fox hunting.
Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
Free TV licences for over-75s.
Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
Free eye test for over 60s.
More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
Free entry to national museums and galleries.
Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.
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@ZAKKANWAKKAR
The Tories said they were going to control the national debt. It's gone up every year they've been in office.
The Tories said Brexit would make us richer. It's made us far poorer.
The Tories said they would reduce inequality. Our inequality is one of the worst in the OECD
The Tories said they'd fix the NHS. NHS waiting list is the highest on record, and was also the highest on record before Covid.
The Tories said they'd reduce council tax. The amount you pay has gone up every year.
The Tories said they'd be a clean, transparent govt. Corruption has risen hugely, and that's before even factoring in the 20% of Covid contracts that raised a "red flag" for corruption by international standards.
The Tories said they'd solve housing problems. Housing prices have ballooned and the crisis gets worse every year.
The Tories said they'd increase education funding. Education funding has plummeted.
The Tories said they'd resolve social problems. Racial and other hate crimes have bloomed.
Tories said they'd improve our productivity. Productivity has dropped below the levels under Labour.
Tories said they'd be strong on law and order. They cut over 20,000 police and almost 1/4 of prison and probation staff.
Tories said they'd solve migration. They drove out almost 100,000 EU-born NHS staff, immigration from the rest of the world increased, and now they're arguing about how to reverse it all.
Tories said they'd control inflation. Right...
Tories promised they'd reduce taxes. The UK's tax burden is the highest for 70 years.
The Tories promised sound government and good leadership. Ahem...
Tories promised high wages. Wage growth since 2015 Germany: 40% France: 39% UK: 9% They've delivered 1/4 the wage performance of our economic rivals.
But they cut tax for the rich, and slashed corporation tax to one of the lowest in the OECD. They're looking after the already-wealthy, but failing in every other way. So unless you own a corporation or are one of the richest 5% of Britons, you're very, very wrong to vote Tory.
Thank you for playing.
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Russian leadership, morale, logistics, aircraft, tactics, training, equipment are subpar (to put it mildly). Russia has lost approximately 20000 troops in two months, 3000 armoured fighting vehicles (including approx 900 MBTs), 300+ aircraft, 400+ artillery. Russia is incurring unsustainable losses. If NATO keep supporting Ukraine with hardware, equipment, logistics, intelligence, training etc Ukraine will defeat the Russian fascist dictator.
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Labour governments’ achievements
Between 1997 and 2010 Labour was continuously in government. Here are Labour’s top 50 achievements during those years.
Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.
Low mortgage rates.
Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
Employment is at its highest level ever.
Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
85,000 more nurses.
32,000 more doctors.
Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
Restored city-wide government to London.
Record number of students in higher education.
Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
£200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
Banned fox hunting.
Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
Free TV licences for over-75s.
Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
Free eye test for over 60s.
More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
Free entry to national museums and galleries.
Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.
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Does your 1776 figure count for Native Americans? What's your definition of British entho-culture? What is it made up of: Iron Age Britons, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans?
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@stequality All the problems the country is facing - cost of living, energy bills, staff shortages, stagnant economy, war in Ukraine, pandemic recovery, sewage in our rivers and beaches, corruption, rising crime, strikes, inequality, climate change etc - and you're worked up over Starmer not "defining a woman" on the radio because he was rightly concerned at not offending transpeople. Grow up.
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George Monbiot: People at the extrinsic end of the spectrum are more attracted to prestige, status, image, fame, power and wealth. They are strongly motivated by the prospect of individual reward and praise. They are more likely to objectify and exploit other people, to behave rudely and aggressively and to dismiss social and environmental impacts. They have little interest in cooperation or community. People with a strong set of extrinsic values are more likely to suffer from frustration, dissatisfaction, stress, anxiety, anger and compulsive behaviour.
Trump exemplifies extrinsic values. From the tower bearing his name in gold letters to his gross overstatements of his wealth; from his endless ranting about “winners” and “losers” to his reported habit of cheating at golf; from his extreme objectification of women, including his own daughter, to his obsession with the size of his hands; from his rejection of public service, human rights and environmental protection to his extreme dissatisfaction and fury, undiminished even when he was president of the United States, Trump, perhaps more than any other public figure in recent history, is a walking, talking monument to extrinsic values.
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A summary of Truss' delusions:
..The West is run by the left for too long, it's been a complete disaster
..We have people on our streets protesting in favour of terrorism
..Our borders are out of control with illegal immigrants entering our country freely
..Our energy bills going up because of the green new deal or net zero
..Western civilisation is being undermined
..Magna carta values, are being undermined
..Our history is being challenged
..Our biology is being challenged, can you imagine we would be talking about what a woman or a man is?
..Biden asleep at the wheel in the White House
..In the UK the left have not accepted that they lost at the ballot box, pushing woke agenda to our schools and campuses
..Woke-economics
..The left are aided and abetted by our enemies overseas: Russia, Iran and China
..They want to undermine our very way of life
..They want our society to collapse from within
..We enabled Vladamir Putin by not taking action early on
..The White House are projecting weakness
..Too many Conservatives have gone along with left wing ideas
..It's people who think 'I want to be popular, I don't want to upset people, I don't want to look like a mean person, I want to attend dinner parties in Washington and London' these people are compromising, triangulating and losing the argument
..The UK and US are exceptional, we are great nations
..Unless Conservatives become more active in speaking out, Western civilisation is doomed.
Thanks Liz. Pull your head in.
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If you voted Tory in 2010 to reduce debt, you made a mistake. They increased public sector debt every year.
If you voted for Brexit to make us richer, you made a mistake. It has made us much, much poorer.
If you voted for Brexit to improve all the trading we could do when we were free of the EU, you made a mistake. Our trading has gone off a cliff.
If you voted Tory to reduce inequality, you made a mistake. Inequality in the UK is now higher than any comparable economy except USA.
If you voted Tory to improve law and order, you made a mistake. Police numbers tumbled after they took office.
If you voted Tory to reduce immigration, you made a mistake. Immigration from the EU shrank, but from the rest of the world it grew.
If you voted Tory or Brexit to improve your wages, you made a mistake. Growth since 2015: Germany: 40%, France: 39%, UK: 9%
We're 1/4 the wage performance of our economic rivals.
If you voted Tory to reduce the number of people waiting for NHS treatment, you made a mistake. Numbers have grown every year (except during Covid, when most non-urgent treatments were postponed)
If you voted Tory reduce waiting times, you made a mistake. They've also increased every year.
If you voted Tory to improve education funding, you made a mistake.
If you voted Tory to reduce the amount of council tax you pay, you made a mistake.
If you voted for Tories to stamp down on corruption, you made a mistake. It has risen hugely, before even factoring in the 20% of Covid contracts that raised a "red flag" for corruption by international standards.
If you voted Tory to reduce racist or other hate crimes, you made a mistake.
If you voted Tory to control inflation, that was a mistake. UK inflation hits 30 year high.
If you voted Tory to make housing more affordable, that was a mistake.
If you voted Tory because you wanted good leadership, you made a mistake. Cameron scores worse than even Brown, and Theresa May worse than anybody. They are HUGELY negative in all categories.
And this doesn't even include Boris Johnson.
Next time you're nodding along to the Tories, just stop for a moment, and remember all the times you agreed with them in the past.
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@lumpyfishgravy Remain overwhelmly won in London and in university cities, including Edinburgh, Glasgow, Cardiff, Belfast, Bristol, Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle, Brighton, Leicester etc.
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@stuartannetts300 I shouldn't be surprised a Tory voter, despite the chaos, would be so deluded and patronising.
The last 6 years have crushed the "we must pay more & get the very best people into politics" critique.
Kwartang, Johnson, Cameron, May, Truss, Redwood, Rees Mogg went to the best universities, worked in blue chip companies, are awash with accolades.
And they've crashed the country.
Every single member of the Labour shadow cabinet is more competent than their equivalent Tory Minister.
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@bw1376 So glad you asked.
Under Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What's it like realising you're out of your depth?
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Someone on Quora asked “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:
A few things spring to mind -
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honor and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff the Queensberry rules of basic decency & he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that: Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are. You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump. And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.
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What exactly is classy about misogynistic, racist, bigoted, lying, multi bankrupt, warmongering, tax cheat, draft dodging, adulterer, illiterate, lazy, bully, obese reality TV star? What am I missing?? 🤔
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On the sets of adult movies, there used to be a class of employee belonging to the makeup department, called a fluffer.
The job of the fluffer was to ensure that the male star’s member was fully erect before shooting started. It saved time, and ensured that the male performer was good to go as soon as the cameras began to roll. How the fluffer did this was very much up to the conscience of the individual fluffer, but I’m sure you can imagine.
Fluffers are not much used anymore—not in adult films, anyway.
Instead, fluffers have moved from adult entertainment to the world of what you might call ‘newstainment’.
Nigel Farage is a fluffer.
His job is not to tell the truth, but to stroke his viewers’ opinions in such a way that their generally unfocused sense of grievance rears up, turgid and stiff, so that they can wave it about in public as if it were something to be proud of.
Truth ain’t nothing to do with it.
Nigel Farage just wants to get your blood flowing.
And he was very good at it, wasn’t he? Because you’re dancing to his tune right now.
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@ironbutterflyrusted “They had damaged dams and a constant, rising flow of water, not being held back. That would increase in winter. So they quickly repaired them to resume the electric and water supply.”
Yes, it was an amazing feat of engineering, requiring the use of substantial scarce resources at a difficult time for the Third Reich. Have you ever seen photos of the scaffolding on the dams during the repair? They give a great sense of the scale of the task.
“What is strange about that ?....many people still lived in the area and further towns relied on the dams supply.”
Nothing is “strange” about that – the point is that repair of the dams was vitally important, which strengthens my argument that the dam’s raid was an important successful mission, with strategic, operational and tactical impacts on the Germans.
“You said yourself that it didn't cause s very long interruption.”
The point was not the length of interruption, rather the resources prioritised to repair the dams.
“But failed to consider that the workforce were largely "slaves"....just like those that drowned. Thus no need to pull the many from important positions.”
Whoever the workforce was – slaves, PoWs, German civilians – the point is they were pulled from other important jobs – such as construction of the Atlantic Wall – to repair the dams.
“Just because the Germans lost you cannot claim that every UK raid was justified, a roaring success and obviously greatly hampered the German war effort.” Who made such a claim? People have only written about the dams raid of 16/17 May 1943 Operations Chastise.
“As I said, too many contributing factors brought about the German downfall. And the logistics of the battles and context, is obviously very difficult to assess. Some things can be shown to have had an effect on a large scale, others not at all. And many still reside in the grey area and are topics of multi-disciplined academia.”
Of course there were many contributing factors to the German defeat. What’s your point?
“From reading the UK and German sides of things. The Chastise operation was nowhere near as devastating to the German Military, Economy and morale, as the UK claims.....which is quite normal for the "victors" to exaggerate or censor.” Previous posts make the case for the significant damage and effect on the German war effort of the raid, a raid by only 19 aircraft. As you’re aware, RAF Bomber Command would typically send over hundreds, sometimes more than a thousand bombers, for less effect than the dams raid.
“In fact if it didn't include innovative Bombs its ranking as a mission would be a lot lower and rarely mentioned.” Rubbish. Utter rubbish.
“I don't agree that this attack was of paramount necessity. I don't agree that it was pivotal. And I don't agree with the amounts of civilian deaths and injuries.”
Okay, but Germany started the war, Germany bombed civilian targets, dams in the enemy's industrial heartland are legitimate targets, the slaves killed in the raid would’ve likely died a slower death as slaves and the raid shortened the war and reduced Allied casualties (for reasons outlined previous posts).
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The material cost to Germany was enormous. The psychological cost to Germany was enormous. The Eder and the Möhne dam were two of the most well known edifices in Germany, in a country which prides itself on its engineering.
“The dams were repaired by October that year, so it can’t have been that big a deal?” But what does Germany have to do in order to repair the dams so quickly at the height of Total War (the dams raids occur only a few months after Goebbels’ Sportpalast Total War speech)? As a previous post noted, the dams reconstruction took place during Operation Citadel and Husky, the Third Reich is in crisis, to divert that amount of resources and manpower to repairing them that quickly, tells you the dams are of enormous importance – they are both materially and psychologically important. For some perspective, the cost to repair the dams in today’s money would cost approximately £8 billion. That’s a huge chunk out of Germany’s limited budget. Consider how many weapons could have been produced with that money.
Look at the photos of the Möhne dam covered in scaffolding, railways lines built in, barracks built for the workers. All this obviously shows (well maybe not obvious to you) just how important the dams are to Germany.
“Materials and the manpower readily available” Really? Why were at least 7000 people removed from preparing the Atlantic Wall defences?
After the raid, as previously noted, Germany defended every single dam pointlessly for the next two years, drawing away AAA and manpower which could have otherwise been positioned elsewhere.
Your dismissive of the results: Four power stations and 12 war production factories were destroyed, while about 100 other factories were damaged, railway bridges were incapacitated, road bridges knocked down and 3,000 acres of farmland destroyed. Coal production dropped by some 20,000 tonnes and steel production by about 180,000 tonnes in the month that followed.
The dams raid contributed to an earlier conclusion to the war (for the reasons outlined above), so would have ultimately saved the lives of more slaves than were unfortunately drowned during the raid.
No one has said the Germans ran out of ammo because of the raid. However the raid cost the Germans £8billion which could have obviously been spent elsewhere.
Regardless of the weapon used, a raid flown by a squadron of 19 aircraft, using tactics vastly different to the rest of RAF Bomber Command, flown at night, at low level, with 1943 tech, with men who had barely trained for the mission, most had not dropped the Upkeep, carried out with such skill & precision & bravery, which caused such damage – of course the dams raid would have been remembered regardless of the bouncing bomb.
BTW do you support Putin's " Special Military Operation"?
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@Man_v_Cars The Tories said they were going to control the national debt. It's gone up every year they've been in office.
The Tories said Brexit would make us richer. It's made us far poorer.
The Tories said they would reduce inequality. Our inequality is one of the worst in the OECD
The Tories said they'd fix the NHS. NHS waiting list is the highest on record, and was also the highest on record before Covid.
The Tories said they'd reduce council tax. The amount you pay has gone up every year.
The Tories said they'd be a clean, transparent govt. Corruption has risen hugely, and that's before even factoring in the 20% of Covid contracts that raised a "red flag" for corruption by international standards.
The Tories said they'd solve housing problems. Housing prices have ballooned and the crisis gets worse every year.
The Tories said they'd increase education funding. Education funding has plummeted.
The Tories said they'd resolve social problems. Racial and other hate crimes have bloomed.
Tories said they'd improve our productivity. Productivity has dropped below the levels under Labour.
Tories said they'd be strong on law and order. They cut over 20,000 police and almost 1/4 of prison and probation staff.
Tories said they'd solve migration. They drove out almost 100,000 EU-born NHS staff, immigration from the rest of the world increased, and now they're arguing about how to reverse it all.
Tories said they'd control inflation. Right...
Tories promised they'd reduce taxes. The UK's tax burden is the highest for 70 years.
The Tories promised sound government and good leadership. Ahem...
Tories promised high wages. Wage growth since 2015 Germany: 40% France: 39% UK: 9% They've delivered 1/4 the wage performance of our economic rivals.
But they cut tax for the rich, and slashed corporation tax to one of the lowest in the OECD. They're looking after the already-wealthy, but failing in every other way. So unless you own a corporation or are one of the richest 5% of Britons, you're very, very wrong to vote Tory.
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Someone on Quora asked “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:
A few things spring to mind -
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honor and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff the Queensberry rules of basic decency & he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that: Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are. You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump. And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.
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BS. When Labour left office in 2010 the national debt was £995,000,000,000 (995 billion). In March 2022, the national debt was £2,365,000,000,000 (Two point three six five trillion pounds). So, after 12 years of Tory austerity, what happened to the other £1.4 trillion?
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@christophercurtis2893 All councils get most of their funding from Central government, what's so special about Camden council in that regard? In terms of crime statistics, anyone who took more than five seconds to think on the subject would attribute crime to austerity, 12 years of Tory government - decreased police numbers, increased poverty / inequality, poor mental health services, poor housing, domestic violence, decreased funding for social services (all councils have received less funding), closure of youth clubs, selling off of sporting fields, decreased school budgets etc.
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THE 26 LAWS OF BREXIT
1. Brexit means Brexit
2. Put 3 Brexiters in a room, and they will emerge with 4 versions of Brexit.
3. The 2016 referendum represents the largest democratic mandate ever. It just does, ok. (The turnout in the Scottish referendum and in many past GEs, and the total number of votes cast in the 1992 GE don't count.)
4. 17.4 million people represent a majority of an electorate of 46,500,001, and of a population of 65 million.
5. "Will of the People" is the equivalent of QED at the end of a scientific proof.
6. If Brexit's not succeeding, it's because you're not believing hard enough.
7. All the following are working together to block the One True Brexit: Remainers, judges, Labour, most Tories, MPs in general, the Lords, the royal family, mass media, experts, economists, the woke, business leaders, foreign firms, facts, stats, reality, the EU, did I mention the EU?, oh and the EU of course!
8. What do experts know? They only have knowledge and experience to go by.
9. It is impossible to predict the future because it hasn't happened yet.
10. A prediction that doesn't come true is a lie.
11. Irish border? Just a red line on a map, innit.
12. Eton- and Oxford-educated millionaires and hedge fund owners are bound to want exactly the same from Brexit as the average person in Britain.
13. Democracy is dead if we have a second referendum, especially if we lose it.
14. We can time travel back to the good bits of 1975 by leaving the EU.
15. The best way to ingratiate ourselves with our largest European trading partner is to keep mentioning the war. If it's good enough for Basil Fawlty...
16. The less you understand Brexit, the more you are obliged to talk about it in military terms.
17. Pointing out that demographic changes since the referendum favour Remain is exactly the same as wishing old people dead. Heck, why not just go the whole hog and kill them yourself?
18. The EU's such a weak, failing institution, it will collapse if someone blows in its general direction.
19. The EU are brutish bullies who do nothing but boss us around, and dictate terms.
20. Our reality is better than your reality, because ours is British.
21. Every time you deny Brexit, a unicorn dies. Murderer!
22. International law is more of a suggestion.
23. No matter what version of Brexit gets implemented, it will never be the Brexit you voted for.
24. Lies become true if you shout them loud enough (flecks of spittle add to the veracity).
25. Whatever your political allegiance, the BBC is biased against you.
26. One day, we'll all be dead.
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When you say British have been here for 1000-3000 years, who do you mean exactly? The stone age Britons, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans? The UK is a multi cultural country, it always has been.
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Someone on Quora asked “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:
A few things spring to mind -
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honor and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff the Queensberry rules of basic decency & he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that: Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are. You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump. And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.
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@CountryGalB The Tories said they were going to control the national debt. It's gone up every year they've been in office.
The Tories said Brexit would make us richer. It's made us far poorer.
The Tories said they would reduce inequality. Our inequality is one of the worst in the OECD
The Tories said they'd fix the NHS. NHS waiting list is the highest on record, and was also the highest on record before Covid.
The Tories said they'd reduce council tax. The amount you pay has gone up every year.
The Tories said they'd be a clean, transparent govt. Corruption has risen hugely, and that's before even factoring in the 20% of Covid contracts that raised a "red flag" for corruption by international standards.
The Tories said they'd solve housing problems. Housing prices have ballooned and the crisis gets worse every year.
The Tories said they'd increase education funding. Education funding has plummeted.
The Tories said they'd resolve social problems. Racial and other hate crimes have bloomed.
Tories said they'd improve our productivity. Productivity has dropped below the levels under Labour.
Tories said they'd be strong on law and order. They cut over 20,000 police and almost 1/4 of prison and probation staff.
Tories said they'd solve migration. They drove out almost 100,000 EU-born NHS staff, immigration from the rest of the world increased, and now they're arguing about how to reverse it all.
Tories said they'd control inflation. Right...
Tories promised they'd reduce taxes. The UK's tax burden is the highest for 70 years.
The Tories promised sound government and good leadership. Ahem...
Tories promised high wages. Wage growth since 2015 Germany: 40% France: 39% UK: 9% They've delivered 1/4 the wage performance of our economic rivals.
But they cut tax for the rich, and slashed corporation tax to one of the lowest in the OECD. They're looking after the already-wealthy, but failing in every other way. So unless you own a corporation or are one of the richest 5% of Britons, you're very, very wrong to vote Tory.
But at least they know what a women is 🙄
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Nick Robinson, "In your manifesto there are promises to spend more on health, more police, more soldiers, tax cuts for this group, tax cuts for that group, tax cuts for the rich, tax cuts for the poor, everybody gets everything they want. It's like Christmas"
Nigel Farage, "Weeeellll"
Nick Robinson, "You told me the country was skint"
Nigel Farage, "Yeah, it is skint"
Nick Robinson, "So how come you can afford spending of £140 billion a year, which is 50% more than Jeremy Corbyn?"
Nigel Farage, "Aside from immigration, aside from leaving the ECHR so we can deport people"
Nick Robinson, "That's nothing to do with money"
Nigel Farage, "We will raise the level at which people pay tax to £20,000"
Nick Robinson, "I'm asking you where you get £140 billion."
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General John Kelly, former White House chief of staff, called Trump “the most flawed person I have ever met in my life,” who “has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”
Mark Esper, former secretary of defense, said Trump is a “threat to democracy.”
John Bolton, former national security adviser, believes Trump is “unfit to be president.”
General Mark Milley, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, described Trump as “a fascist to the core.”
Remember, these people worked closely with Trump.
Now let’s move on to alarming things that Trump himself has said:
“I need the kind of generals that Hitler had … People who were totally loyal to him, that follow orders.”
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Really? Under Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and yes the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation of Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland – Good Friday Agreement
– a Britain in Europe’s mainstream not in Europe’s slipstream
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
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I really enjoyed it, but thought she went a little easy on the Trump administration, the most dysfunctional administration in living memory. Maybe it was too easy a target. Wolf's most pointed critique was of the media, for creating and sustaining the Trump monster, then acting indignant when he behaves in the boorish manner he has for decades and does the things he threatened to do: pull out of the Paris Agreement, start a trade war with China, implement a travel ban etc.
I find the indignation of Trump supporters so weird and funny. Wolf used the language of Trump, language which his supporters condone as merely "locker room talk", but are off limits for a female comedian. I don't get it. I'm missing something.
Also, what's the fuss about calling out "Alternative facts" Conway and Sanders as liars? Of course they are. Some of the press do call them out, but a significant number don't.
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@Anna87147 Russia did not colonise anyone? WTF? Are you sure you've studied history? Apart from Ukraine, there's Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Chechnya, Georgia, Moldova, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Belarus and Kazakhstan. Also Afghanistan (attempted) and the then Czechoslovakia.
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@DD-gt2cv They were working indoors on a campaign. What guidance says it was not legal to travel outside a constituency? I looked on "The Government’s approach to elections and referendums during COVID-19" dated 25 March 2021 and could not find that guidance.
Out of curiousity, were you similarly interested and concerned at the corruption and cronyism during the pandemic, the covid death toll, wallpaper in Dowding Street, "let the bodies pile high", the various ministerial scandals (Patel bullying, cash for access, Jenrick etc), Owen Patterson, Parish the tractor wanker, Greensil lobbying, covid loan fraud, Russian donations, peerages and, of course, a botched Brexit (NI border, decreased trade etc). Do you think your outrage at Starmer's meal is proportionate and relevant?
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Donald Trump was the first president in 129 years to lose the popular vote twice.
He was the first president in 89 years to lose the presidency, the House and the Senate in a single term.
He was the first president in 28 years to lose re-election.
He lost the most jobs of any president since Herbert Hoover.
He lost the Trump University case, the fake charity case, the NY business fraud case, the E. Jean Carroll sexual assault and defamation case, he lost a lawsuit against The NY Times, lost countless appeals, lost 61 lawsuits related to the 2020 election, lost the state of Georgia three times, lost Pennsylvania, Arizona, Texas & Wisconsin twice, and he even managed to lose 8 times at the friggin Emmy Awards.
He’s under 4 indictments, facing 91 felony charges and to date, he’s been ordered to pay more than a hundred million dollars in penalties with a potential $370 million more in the week ahead where he may also lose his right to engage in the state's real estate industry for life and be barred entirely from doing business in New York.
All of this, while he’s been saying that windmills kill whales, that magnets stop working when wet, that he ran against Obama, that E. Jean Carroll is a political rival and that Nikki Haley was in charge of security on January 6th, for which one could ostensibly make the case that in addition to everything else he’s been losing — he is also losing his damn mind.
He once said there would be so much winning people would get sick of it. When in reality, when it comes to Donald Trump in the last several years, there’s been nothing but losing.
He was right about one thing however — we are sick of it.
And by it, I mean him.
We like former presidents who aren’t losers and at the end of the day, Donald Trump is a loser, maybe the biggest loser in history. Many people say so. The best people.
Believe me.
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@ashfield1425 I agree about the stopping of the nuclear power plants which has limited our energy security, the Iraq war was illegal but I understand why they did it from a geopolitical point of view (for energy security, the US alliance & militarily containing Iraq was costly - I was against it, still am) and as the "there is no money" note, that was dark humour following the financial crash, the Great Recession of 2008, which was not Labour's fault (of course, the Tories repeated ad nauseum it was) and Brown played a leading role in the global response to the crisis. The quality of life and performance of the public sector was far better under Labour - less poverty / food banks, income was rising with low inflation, the NHS performance was so much better than now. The scandals of the Labour Party were laughable when compared to the Tories. Imagine how the right wing press would have reacted to the corruption and cronyism during the pandemic, the budget deficit/inflation/cost of living crisis, the covid death toll, partygate, wallpaper in Dowding Street, let the bodies pile high, the various ministerial scandals and, of course, a botched Brexit. They would have a field day. And yet the biggest complaint against Starmer is he was careful not to get into the sex and gender debate. FFS.
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@titteryenot4524 I found this online:
"In the second chapter of the Gospel of Matthew, the story of the “Flight into Egypt” in which, after the birth of Jesus and the visit from the Magi, an “angel of the Lord” comes to Joseph in a dream and warns him to leave Bethlehem for Egypt (Mt 2:12-15). Why? Because King Herod was planning to “seek out the child to destroy him.” Mary and Joseph do leave, along with Jesus, and, according to Matthew, make their way into Egypt. Afterward, King Herod slaughters all the male children in Bethlehem under two years of age. This dramatic episode is part of the Gospel reading for the “Feast of the Holy Innocents,” celebrated on Dec. 28.
So, according to the Gospel of Matthew, what is going on? A family is forced to flee their homeland for fear of persecution. This is the classic modern-day definition of a refugee. In fact, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees define that group of people as follows: A refugee is someone who has been forced to flee his or her country because of persecution, war, or violence. A refugee has a well-founded fear of persecution for reasons of race, religion, nationality, political opinion or membership in a particular social group.
The Holy Family, as Matthew recounts the story, was fleeing because of a “well-founded fear of persecution” because of their “membership in a particular social group,” in this case people with young children living in Bethlehem.
Did Joseph and Mary apply for official refugee status? Of course not. Those kinds of regulations were most likely not in effect. There may not have even been any borders at the time."
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GB News is a bit slow, even The Daily Telegraph recognises Brexit is a disaster. On 15th October: “Project Fear was right all along”, Jeremy Warner, the paper’s economics columnist, went on to say that “Downbeat projections by the Treasury and others on the economic consequences of leaving the EU, contemptuously dismissed at the time by Brexit campaigners as ‘Project Fear’, have… turned out to be overwhelmingly correct.” If anything, he said, they “underestimated both the calamitous loss of international standing and the scale of the damage that six years of policy confusion and ineptitude has imposed on the country.”
Brexit has not been neatly “delivered”, like a parcel or a baby. Instead, it goes on being an unholy mess, bringing down prime ministers in shoals , turning the UK into a subject of global derision and making life intolerable for fruit and vegetable farms, hospitals and care homes, bars and bistros, none of which can get the staff now that we have “taken back control of our borders”.
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@pbluma Russia's economy has been hammered, the Rouble almost worthless, their credit rating destroyed, official interest rate gone from 9.5% to 20%, Russian logistics are struggling (to be generous), Russian morale low, Russian losses of men and material are unsustainable, Ukrainian's are being reinforced by foreign volunteers with military experience and reservists (36000 of which have military experience in Crimea), supplies of modern military equipment are pouring in from NATO, in addition to intelligence. I'd say Ukraine is winning the war, but not every battle (Russia has made advances in the south east).
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What do you know about the Battle of the Ruhr between 5 March – 31 July 1943? The Ruhr was the main centre of German heavy industry with coke plants, steelworks, armaments factories and ten synthetic oil plants. During the Battle, RAF Bomber Command's targets included: the Krupp armament works (Essen), the Nordstern synthetic oil plant at Gelsenkirchen and the Rheinmetal–Borsig plant in Düsseldorf(which was evacuated during the battle).
In his 2006 study of the German war economy, Adam Tooze wrote that Bomber Command severely disrupted German production during the battle. Contemporary sources show that the bombing was a watershed in the development of the German war economy, which has been severely underestimated by later accounts. The Ruhr was the most important source of coking coal and steel in Europe and the main source of components; cutting production in the Ruhr disrupted production all over Germany. The status of the Ruhr was changed from that of the home front to a war zone with an emergency staff placed to control over the regional economy. Workers were accommodated in camps, ready to be sent to factories that were still open but these were expedients. The German night defences could not stop the British from inflicting great disruption on the war economy. Steel production was cut by 200,000 long tons (200,000 t) when Albert Speer, head of the Reich Ministry of Armaments and War Production, was expecting output to increase to 2,800,000 long tons (2,800,000 t), causing a deficit of 400,000 long tons (410,000 t).
Having reorganised the steel allocation system, the German planners were forced into a large cut in the ammunition production programme to compensate. After a doubling of ammunition production in 1942, output increased by only 20 per cent in 1943. All over Germany, the destruction in the Ruhr caused shortages of parts, castings and forgings, a Zulieferungskrise (sub-components crisis), which reached far beyond heavy industry. From July 1943 to March 1944, there were no increases in monthly aircraft production for the Luftwaffe and in the rest of the armaments economy there was no increase in production until 1944.
If the Dams raids were so inconsequential to the German's why did they call it the “Möhnekatastrophe”? After inspecting the damage, the Westphalian Governor Karl-Friedrich Kolbow wrote on May 19, 1943 to the Ministerial Director in the Reich Ministry for the occupied Eastern Territories, Ludwig Runte: “The destruction of the Möhne Dam exceeds all expectations. The lower Möhne valley and the Ruhr valley between Neheim and Hengsteysee was completely destroyed. How often has humanity had to experience such terrible setbacks from its technical activity! When the Möhne Dam was completed in 1911, no one would have believed that it would bring home more harm than blessing.”
The German reaction to the raids was shock and horror. The RAF and USAAF had been sending over mass formations. The coordinated dams raid was so disturbing for the Germans, as it had been carried out with small numbers of aircraft and delivered with precision and awesome power. Maximum damage caused by a few aircraft was the Holy Grail of combatant nations.
The dams raid cauased: material damaged, water shortage, manpower shortages. I could go into detail on each, but you’re not worth the effort.
Further displaying your ignorance, how did Ukraine and the US provoke the Russian invasion? How did Russia attempt “to resolve the matter through the correct channels”?
“Before this Russian Operation the USA sent $22 billion of equipment and provided training from 2014-22, for "defence."” What do you think happened in 2014 which might cause Ukraine to seek assistance for defence? Why did Ukraine have to shell their own land?
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I attempted to make the simple and obvious point that the UK is not a meritocracy, nowhere close.
To be outraged at the employment of an equality expert while claiming to be in favour of meritocracy is nonsensical. Ideally there would be no need for equality experts. Given the predominance of white men in positions of power, there is a need.
I’m not criticising capitalism, I was pointing out just how much the UK is not a meritocracy.
Other countries do a much better job at creating a level playing field for their children.
Of course the right, the Establishment, wants to maintain the status quo. Who willingly gives up power?
BTW 'Positive discrimination' is prohibited under the Equality Act 2010 so an employer cannot choose to hire a woman or someone of a particular ethnic heritage simply because they're in an underrepresented group.
The impact of socio-economic factors on employment and income is particularly important for women, ethnic minorities, people with disabilities and members of the LGBTQ+ community. This is not disputable.
Do you think GB News will run stories on the class system, private schools, tax evasion (tax havens etc), racism and the other structural barriers that continue to hamper social mobility in the UK?
Or will GB News continue with this sort of click bait, angertainment, culture war crap?
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Unlike flying or astral projection, walking through walls is a totally earth-related craft, but a lot more interesting than pot making or driftwood lamps. I got started at a picnic up in Bowstring in the northern part of the state. A fellow walked through a brick wall right there in the park. I said, 'Say, I want to try that.' Stone walls are best, then brick and wood. Wooden walls with fiberglass insulation and steel doors aren't so good. They won't hurt you. If your wall walking is done properly, both you and the wall are left intact. It is just that they aren't pleasant somehow. The worst things are wire fences, maybe it's the molecular structure of the alloy or just the amount of give in a fence, I don't know, but I've torn my jacket and lost my hat in a lot of fences. The best approach to a wall is, first, two hands placed flat against the surface; it's a matter of concentration and just the right pressure. You will feel the dry, cool inner wall with your fingers, then there is a moment of total darkness before you step through on the other side.
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@maisiemoo8343 From the gov.uk website:
"Grant rates vary considerably by nationality as the protection requirements of specific nationalities or individuals vary. Of those nationalities that commonly claim asylum in the UK, Libyans (98%) and Syrians (96%) typically have high grant rates at initial decision, while nationals of India (3%), China (19%) and Bangladesh (16%) typically have low grant rates.
Only six nationalities, in the top ten, had a grant rate at initial decision of more than 50%, that is applicants were more likely than not to be granted protection. These six nationalities – Iran, Afghanistan, Eritrea, Vietnam, Sudan and Syria - together accounted for more than one third (36%) of asylum applications."
"Some initial decisions (mainly, but not entirely, refusals) will go on to be appealed. There were 3,663 appeals lodged on initial decisions in the year ending March 2021, of the appeals resolved over the period, 47% were allowed (meaning the applicant successfully overturned the initial decision)."
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Let's remember where all this came from.
The media built Boris Johnson: he is its Frankenstien's monster, sewn together from laughter and lies.
It built Nigel Farage.
It built Jacob Rees-Mogg.
And the other killer clowns tearing this country apart.
Then it gave these clowns a massive platform, the platform it reserves for the most odious, entitled and feckless people to be found in this nation.
Make us laugh, make us cry, but above all make a noise.
Because that's ratings. And ratings is power.
To hell with the consequences.
You think I'm talking about the billionaire press?
Yes I am.
But I'm also talking about the BBC, whose role is more insidious and more powerful, because, for some reason, people still trust it.
Impartiality? Balance?
Forget it. Give us outrage. Give us shock. Give us eyeballs.
And now the same media are saying "Oh my God, look at that idiot! Can you believe what a jerk he is? Of course, we saw it all along."
It's all part of the same circus. They can't lose, as long as there's noise. The noise that drowns all thought.
- George Monbiot
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The Tories said they were going to control the national debt. It's gone up every year they've been in office.
The Tories said Brexit would make us richer. It's made us far poorer.
The Tories said they would reduce inequality. Our inequality is one of the worst in the OECD, the second worst in Europe behind only Bulgaria.
The Tories said they'd fix the NHS. NHS waiting list is the highest on record, and was also the highest on record before Covid.
The Tories said they'd reduce council tax. The amount you pay has gone up every year.
The Tories said they'd be a clean, transparent govt. Corruption has risen hugely, and that's before even factoring in the 20% of Covid contracts that raised a "red flag" for corruption by international standards.
The Tories said they'd solve housing problems. Housing prices have ballooned and the crisis gets worse every year.
The Tories said they'd increase education funding. Education funding has plummeted.
The Tories said they'd resolve social problems. Racial and other hate crimes have bloomed.
Tories said they'd improve our productivity. Productivity has dropped below the levels under Labour.
Tories said they'd be strong on law and order. They cut over 20,000 police and almost 1/4 of prison and probation staff.
Tories said they'd solve migration. They drove out almost 100,000 EU-born NHS staff, immigration from the rest of the world increased, and now they're arguing about how to reverse it all.
Tories said they'd control inflation. Right...
Tories promised they'd reduce taxes. The UK's tax burden is the highest for 70 years.
The Tories promised sound government and good leadership. Ahem...
Tories promised high wages. Wage growth since 2015 Germany: 40% France: 39% UK: 9%. They've delivered 1/4 the wage performance of our economic rivals.
But they cut tax for the rich, and slashed corporation tax to one of the lowest in the OECD. They're looking after the already-wealthy, but failing in every other way. So unless you own a corporation or are one of the richest 5% of Britons, you're very, very wrong to vote Tory.
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@Liamneedham29 I wouldn't rule out Braverman on the basis of her race. I rule her out on her actions and words.
Lawyers consider her to be, by some distance, the worst Attorney General in our lifetime and possibly in the 800 yr history of the role. Braverman repeatedly abused her office for political capital; condoned law-breaking; jeopardised a potential criminal investigation into a political ally; briefed against judges in the tabloids; and stayed silent as the criminal justice system collapsed.
Braverman said, “I have personally benefitted from free movement of workers, having lived in France for 2 years as an ERASMUS student. Whilst there, I studied for a Masters in European Law…specialising in EU Competition Law”. Then joined the pro-Brexit ERG, denying future generations the same opportunity she had.
She has lied about EU contributions, she blamed women for men looking at porn in parliament, has misunderstood multiple legal judgements, misrepresented the ministerial code, has advocated of expelling "disloyal" backbenchers despite having been one herself under May, conflates Brexit and the ECHR, and said the Tories were 'engaged in a battle against cultural Marxism' a term favoured by far right extremists.
I could go on.
Braverman is not fit to be a minister, let alone Attorney General, let alone Prime Minister.
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@Liamneedham29 Hi, thanks for thoughtful, respecful and intelligent response. It’s certainly the best response I’ve had to a comment on the GB News page.
The lawyers I paraphrased, one was the North West Chief Crown Prosecutor who has worked with AGs from both major parties. The other is a well known criminal barrister and writer. Braverman is widely mocked in legal circles – she’s not considered anywhere near a tier one lawyer and certainly not one qualified to be the Attorney General.
Have you ever seen Braverman’s media performances? I have found her to have been very poor – evasive, vague and often lying or making errors. On Question Time the audience laughed several times at her ludicrous responses.
I can understand why you’d support her if you’re a Brexit supporter, given she is from the ERG and a Brexit hardliner. Do you at least see her being on the Erasmus program and then pushing for a hard Brexit, as a “pulling up the draw bridge behind me” scenario which would infuriate people denied that same opportunity? Given the vote was so close and controversial, there was no need for such a hard Brexit, given the Single Market & Customs Union and schemes such as Erasmus were barely (if at all) discussed during the referendum.
I believe Brexit has failed to deliver on every promise made – the money for the NHS, the frictionless trade, the removal of red tape, fisherman can’t sell to their largest market, blue passports (which we could’ve had all along), no hit to the economy (Project Fear is reality), the new trade agreements barely impact GDP in stark contrast to the 4% lost. Johnson, the chief Brexiter politician, had a supposed “oven ready deal” and an 80 seat majority, yet there a so many Brexit-related problems exacerbating the cost of living crisis. I don’t see how Braverman can resolve them. This is a lawyer who thinks it is perfectly reasonable to unilaterally break the NI Protocol. The Tories used to boast they were the party of law an order. Now we are on the way to becoming an international pariah.
Let’s see. All the best
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What about Romans, Goths, Vandals, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans?
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When Starmer was photographed drinking beer, the restrictions for the
public had been partially lifted, and mixing indoors for work was
allowed. Including eating meals at your desk.
He was working.
In addition, the govt had further relaxed restrictions to allow political parties to campaign during the elections. He was in Durham on a campaign visit, and working in a campaign office. Nobody denies this. It was permitted.
The claim he "ate £200 of curry" sounds excessive until you find out the bill was for the entire office, not one man. Even at £15 a head - a pretty modest amount for a pretty standard curry and beer - that's only 13 people.
Police already looked into all this and found no laws were broken, and no case to answer.
A few days ago we were told we should ignore Boris Johnson parties because there's a war, and it's a waste of police time.
There is still a war. Getting police to investigate twice - when the evidence I've shown proves no law broken - is 2x waste of time.
And it hardly needs pointing out that Boris Johnson headed the gov that wrote the rules. It was one party, it was at least 12. Over 50 people have been fined and a further 100 questioned, with more fines expected.
Very different from dinner at work at a time the law allowed it
We all know why they're pushing this story. Sling mud, hope some sticks, and distract from Johnson, Sunak, Hancock mixing with Randox, rapists, coke-heads, tractor wankers, "sexist of the year" awards, and Nadine Dorries being incapable of the most basic of human tasks.
But it's still worth pointing out what utter bollocks the whole thing is, and how a simple look at the legal restrictions at the time of the photo proves nothing illegal was done. It takes 2 minutes.
Every single "journalist" pushing this story must know it to be false.
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The Tories said they were going to control the national debt. It's gone up every year they've been in office.
The Tories said Brexit would make us richer. It's made us far poorer.
The Tories said they would reduce inequality. Our inequality is one of the worst in the OECD
The Tories said they'd fix the NHS. NHS waiting list is the highest on record, and was also the highest on record before Covid.
The Tories said they'd reduce council tax. The amount you pay has gone up every year.
The Tories said they'd be a clean, transparent govt. Corruption has risen hugely, and that's before even factoring in the 20% of Covid contracts that raised a "red flag" for corruption by international standards.
The Tories said they'd solve housing problems. Housing prices have ballooned and the crisis gets worse every year.
The Tories said they'd increase education funding. Education funding has plummeted.
The Tories said they'd resolve social problems. Racial and other hate crimes have bloomed.
Tories said they'd improve our productivity. Productivity has dropped below the levels under Labour.
Tories said they'd be strong on law and order. They cut over 20,000 police and almost 1/4 of prison and probation staff.
Tories said they'd solve migration. They drove out almost 100,000 EU-born NHS staff, immigration from the rest of the world increased, and now they're arguing about how to reverse it all.
Tories said they'd control inflation. Right...
Tories promised they'd reduce taxes. The UK's tax burden is the highest for 70 years.
The Tories promised sound government and good leadership. Ahem...
Tories promised high wages. Wage growth since 2015 Germany: 40% France: 39% UK: 9% They've delivered 1/4 the wage performance of our economic rivals.
But they cut tax for the rich, and slashed corporation tax to one of the lowest in the OECD. They're looking after the already-wealthy, but failing in every other way. So unless you own a corporation or are one of the richest 5% of Britons, you're very, very wrong to vote Tory.
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"Blair did nothing"?
Labour Achievements 1997 -2010
1.A rising National Minimum Wage - the annual uprating benefits 1 million people a year. 2.The shortest waiting times since NHS records began.
3.Three million more operations carried out each year than in 1997, with more than double the number of heart operations. 4.Over 44,000 more doctors 5.Over 89,000 more nurses 6.Over three quarters of GP practices now offer extended opening hours for at least one evening or weekend session a week. 7.All prescriptions are now free for people being treated for cancer or the effects of cancer, and teenage girls are offered a vaccination against cervical cancer. 8.The NHS can now guarantee that you will see a cancer specialist within two weeks if your GP suspects you may have cancer. Whatever your condition, you will not have to wait more than 18 weeks from GP referral to the start of hospital treatment – and most waits are much shorter than this. 9.22 million people are benefiting from real tax cuts to boost their income this year. 10.12 million pensioners benefiting from increased Winter Fuel Payments 11.900,000 pensioners lifted out of poverty 12.500,000 children lifted out of relative poverty and measures already in train will lift around a further 500,000 children out of poverty. 13.Free TV licences for over-75s 14.The New Deal has helped over 2 million people into work 15.Over 3 million Child Trust Funds have been started 16.Nearly 3,000 Sure Start Children’s Centres opened, reaching 2 million children and their families
17.Over 42,400 more teachers and 123,000 more teaching assistants than in 1997 18.There have been approximately 3,700 rebuilt and significantly refurbished schools; including new and improved classrooms, laboratories and kitchens. 19.A free nursery place for every 3 and 4 year old. 20.Doubled the number of registered childcare places to more than 1.5 million, one for every four children under eight years old 21.More young people attending university than ever before 22.More than doubled the number of apprenticeships starts, with figures for 2008/9 showing 234,000 started an apprenticeship this year compared to 75,000 in 1997. 23.In 1997 more than half of all schools saw less that 30% of their pupils fail to get 5 good GCSEs including English and Maths. Now only 270 schools fail this benchmark and we are guaranteeing that no school should fail this mark after 2011. 24.We have increased school funding to support the delivery of higher standards. Between 1997-98 and 2009-10, total funding per pupil has more than doubled from £3,030 in 1997-98 to £6,350 in 2009-10 in real terms, an increase of 110% 25.The Northern Ireland peace process 26.The UK is now smokefree, with no smoking in most enclosed public places. 27.The UK’s greenhouse gas emissions are now 21% below 1990 levels, beating our Kyoto target. 28.Over £20 billion invested in bringing social housing to decent standards 29.Rough sleeping has dropped by two thirds and homelessness is at its lowest level since the early 1980s 30.Free off-peak travel on buses anywhere in England for over-60s and disabled people 31.Since 1997 overall crime is down 36 per cent; domestic burglary is down 54 per cent; vehicle related crime is down 57 per cent; and violent crime is down 41 per cent. 32.A new flexible points-based system to ensure only those economic migrants who have the skills our economy needs can come to work in the UK. 33.Police numbers up by 16,000 since 1997, alongside more than 16,000 Police Community Support Officers 34.Every community now has its own dedicated neighbourhood police team, easily contactable by the people who live in that community and working with them to agree local priorities and deal with people’s concerns.
35.Equalised the age of consent and repealed Section 28. 36.Through the introduction of civil partnerships, Labour gave legal recognition to same-sex partners. Gay couples now have the same inheritance, pension and next-of-kin rights as married couples. 37.More than doubled Britain’s overseas aid budget. UK aid helps lift an estimated 3 million people out of poverty every year 38.Cancelled up to 100 per cent of debt for the world’s poorest countries 39.Britain now has more offshore wind capacity than any country in the world. Wind last year provided enough electricity to power 2 million homes 40.Launched the £1.5 billion Housing Pledge to speed up the delivery of new affordable housing and embarked on the biggest program of council house building for twenty years 41.Launched the Swimming Challenge Fund to support free swimming for over 60s and under 16s 42.Banned fox hunting. 43.Led the campaign to win the 2012 Olympics for London. Today the programme remains on time and on budget with over 40% of the construction programme completed and all major venues under construction. 44.Free admission to our national museums and galleries. 45.Devolution in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, an elected Mayor and Assembly for London and directly-elected mayors for those cities that want them. 46.Created a new right of pedestrian access to the English coast, so that every family has the opportunity to enjoy the length and breadth of our coastline 47.In the last 4 years Labour’s work overseas has helped over 7 million people in sub-Saharan Africa access clean water and sanitation 48.In Europe we signed the Social Chapter and introduced measures including: four weeks’ paid holiday; a right to parental leave; extended maternity leave; a new right to request flexible working; and the same protection for part-time workers as full-time workers. 49.We led efforts to agree a new international convention banning all cluster munitions. 50.Introduced the first ever British Armed Forces and Veterans Day to honour the achievements of our armed forces – both past and present.
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@memyself1566 As they're drilling my safe, this FBI agent, very tall, very tall and yuge, maybe 9 foot 11, tears in his eyes, comes to me and says, 'Sir, sir, they made us do it. We all love you. We don't wanna be here, sir.' True story.
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When Starmer was photographed drinking beer, the restrictions for the public had been partially lifted, and mixing indoors for work was allowed. Including eating meals at your desk.
He was working.
In addition, the govt had further relaxed restrictions to allow political parties to campaign during the elections. He was in Durham on a campaign visit, and working in a campaign office. Nobody denies this. It was permitted.
The claim he "ate £200 of curry" sounds excessive until you find out the bill was for the entire office, not one man. Even at £15 a head - a pretty modest amount for a pretty standard curry and beer - that's only 13 people.
Police already looked into all this and found no laws were broken, and no case to answer.
A few days ago we were told we should ignore Boris Johnson parties because there's a war, and it's a waste of police time.
There is still a war. Getting police to investigate twice - when the evidence I've shown proves no law broken - is 2x waste of time.
And it hardly needs pointing out that Boris Johnson headed the gov that wrote the rules. It was one party, it was at least 12. Over 50 people have been fined and a further 100 questioned, with more fines expected.
Very different from dinner at work at a time the law allowed it
We all know why they're pushing this story. Sling mud, hope some sticks, and distract from Johnson, Sunak, Hancock mixing with Randox, rapists, coke-heads, tractor wankers, "sexist of the year" awards, and Nadine Dorries being incapable of the most basic of human tasks.
But it's still worth pointing out what utter bollocks the whole thing is, and how a simple look at the legal restrictions at the time of the photo proves nothing illegal was done. It takes 2 minutes.
Every single "journalist" pushing this story must know it to be false.
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@garylake1676 Just curious Gary, were you also as interested and invested in the various Tory scandals of the past few years? The corruption and cronyism during the pandemic, the budget deficit/inflation/cost of living crisis, the covid death toll, wallpaper in Dowding Street, "let the bodies pile high", the various ministerial scandals (Patel bullying, cash for access, Jenrick etc), Owen Patterson, Parish the tractor wanker, Greensil lobbying, covid loan fraud, Russian donations, peerages and, of course, a botched Brexit (NI border, decreased trade etc). Do you think your outrage at Starmer's meal is proportionate and relevant?
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On the sets of adult movies, there used to be a class of employee belonging to the makeup department, called a fluffer.
The job of the fluffer was to ensure that the male star’s member was fully erect before shooting started. It saved time, and ensured that the male performer was good to go as soon as the cameras began to roll. How the fluffer did this was very much up to the conscience of the individual fluffer, but I’m sure you can imagine.
Fluffers are not much used anymore—not in adult films, anyway.
Instead, fluffers have moved from adult entertainment to the world of what you might call ‘newstainment’.
Nigel Farage is a fluffer.
His job is not to tell the truth, but to stroke his viewers’ opinions in such a way that their generally unfocused sense of grievance rears up, turgid and stiff, so that they can wave it about in public as if it were something to be proud of.
Truth ain’t nothing to do with it.
Nigel Farage just wants to get your blood flowing.
And he was very good at it, wasn’t he? Because you’re dancing to his tune right now.
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Under Blair and Brown:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and yes the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation of Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland – Good Friday Agreement
– a Britain in Europe’s mainstream not in Europe’s slipstream
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What did the Tories do in 14 years?
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@NPC--666 There are centuries of socially constructed structural, institutional and direct racism.
The key to racism is power – look up the definition of structural racism and you’ll realise that doesn’t apply to white people in any country around the world, at any time for the past few centuries, before that there was no such thing as racism.
Evidence of institutional racism is wherever you care to look: disparity in prison populations, deaths in police custody, language: white immigrants are expats / non white expats are immigrants, refugees fleeing conflicts either started by or exacerbated by Western democracies are referred to as “illegals” or “cockroach, the language used to describe white mass murderers (mentally ill, loner, incel) versus non white (“terrorists”); Windrush scandal, stop and search stats, public & private sector workplaces looking like a pint of Guinness (white at the top), I could go on. To not see structural racism is to be either wilfully blind or at the mercy of one’s confirmation bias.
As for critical race theory, I bet you don't know what it means. It has become a catch-all phrase for the excesses of anti-racist politics.
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Under Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 14 years?
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This is what Labour achieved in office 1997-2010
HEALTH
85,000 more nurses
NHS waiting times down 82%
98% of A&E patients seen in 4 hours
Free eye tests for over 60s
Heart disease deaths down 150,000
Cancer deaths down 50,000
Free breast screening for 50-70 year-olds
In-patient waiting lists down 500,000
Created NHS Direct
POVERTY
600,000 children lifted out of poverty
1m pensioners lifted out of poverty
26% increase in child benefit
Introduced winter fuel payments
Made improvements to 1m social homes
Introduced child Tax Credits
Created 3m child trust funds
Free bus travel for over 60s
EMPLOYMENT
Introduced the first minimum wage
Created 1.8m new jobs
Cut long term unemployment by 75%
Doubled the number of apprenticeships
Introduced the right to 24 days holiday
Introduced 2 weeks paternity leave
EDUCATION
Doubled education funding for every pupil
36,000 additional teachers
Added 274,000 teaching assistants
2,200 Sure Start centres
Record literacy
Record numeracy
Free nursery places
Free fruit for 4-6 year-olds
SOCIAL / CULTURAL
Scrapped Section 28
Introduced Civil Partnerships
Banned fox hunting
Free TV licenses to over 75s
Free entry to museums and art galleries
Smoking ban
Olympics and the sporting legacy since destroyed by Tories
SECURITY
Peace in Ireland (building on John Major's work, but still, completed by Labour)
Added 14,000 extra police
Cut crime by 35%
Increased criminal justice (court) spending by 21%
ECONOMY
Longest period of low inflation growth since 1960
Created an independent Bank of England
Wrote off debt for dozens of poor nations
Doubled overseas aid (a better life at home reduces the incentive to migrate to the UK)
Created GiftAid to help charities
MISCELLANEOUS
Introduced devolution for Scotland and Wales
Banned fur farming
Brought the Human Rights Act into UK law
And created the cleanest rivers, beaches, water and air since the industrial revolution
Over to you, Tory fans: create your own list of all the wonderful achievements in the last 14 years.
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This is what Labour achieved in office 1997-2010
HEALTH
85,000 more nurses
NHS waiting times down 82%
98% of A&E patients seen in 4 hours
Free eye tests for over 60s
Heart disease deaths down 150,000
Cancer deaths down 50,000
Free breast screening for 50-70 year-olds
In-patient waiting lists down 500,000
Created NHS Direct
POVERTY
600,000 children lifted out of poverty
1m pensioners lifted out of poverty
26% increase in child benefit
Introduced winter fuel payments
Made improvements to 1m social homes
Introduced child Tax Credits
Created 3m child trust funds
Free bus travel for over 60s
EMPLOYMENT
Introduced the first minimum wage
Created 1.8m new jobs
Cut long term unemployment by 75%
Doubled the number of apprenticeships
Introduced the right to 24 days holiday
Introduced 2 weeks paternity leave
EDUCATION
Doubled education funding for every pupil
36,000 additional teachers
Added 274,000 teaching assistants
2,200 Sure Start centres
Record literacy
Record numeracy
Free nursery places
Free fruit for 4-6 year-olds
SOCIAL / CULTURAL
Scrapped Section 28
Introduced Civil Partnerships
Banned fox hunting
Free TV licenses to over 75s
Free entry to museums and art galleries
Smoking ban
Olympics and the sporting legacy since destroyed by Tories
SECURITY
Peace in Ireland (building on John Major's work, but still, completed by Labour)
Added 14,000 extra police
Cut crime by 35%
Increased criminal justice (court) spending by 21%
ECONOMY
Longest period of low inflation growth since 1960
Created an independent Bank of England
Wrote off debt for dozens of poor nations
Doubled overseas aid (a better life at home reduces the incentive to migrate to the UK)
Created GiftAid to help charities
MISCELLANEOUS
Introduced devolution for Scotland and Wales
Banned fur farming
Brought the Human Rights Act into UK law
And created the cleanest rivers, beaches, water and air since the industrial revolution
Over to you, Tory fans: create your own list of all the wonderful achievements in the last 14 years.
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This is what Labour achieved in office 1997-2010
HEALTH
85,000 more nurses
NHS waiting times down 82%
98% of A&E patients seen in 4 hours
Free eye tests for over 60s
Heart disease deaths down 150,000
Cancer deaths down 50,000
Free breast screening for 50-70 year-olds
In-patient waiting lists down 500,000
Created NHS Direct
POVERTY
600,000 children lifted out of poverty
1m pensioners lifted out of poverty
26% increase in child benefit
Introduced winter fuel payments
Made improvements to 1m social homes
Introduced child Tax Credits
Created 3m child trust funds
Free bus travel for over 60s
EMPLOYMENT
Introduced the first minimum wage
Created 1.8m new jobs
Cut long term unemployment by 75%
Doubled the number of apprenticeships
Introduced the right to 24 days holiday
Introduced 2 weeks paternity leave
EDUCATION
Doubled education funding for every pupil
36,000 additional teachers
Added 274,000 teaching assistants
2,200 Sure Start centres
Record literacy
Record numeracy
Free nursery places
Free fruit for 4-6 year-olds
SOCIAL / CULTURAL
Scrapped Section 28
Introduced Civil Partnerships
Banned fox hunting
Free TV licenses to over 75s
Free entry to museums and art galleries
Smoking ban
Olympics and the sporting legacy since destroyed by Tories
SECURITY
Peace in Ireland (building on John Major's work, but still, completed by Labour)
Added 14,000 extra police
Cut crime by 35%
Increased criminal justice (court) spending by 21%
ECONOMY
Longest period of low inflation growth since 1960
Created an independent Bank of England
Wrote off debt for dozens of poor nations
Doubled overseas aid (a better life at home reduces the incentive to migrate to the UK)
Created GiftAid to help charities
MISCELLANEOUS
Introduced devolution for Scotland and Wales
Banned fur farming
Brought the Human Rights Act into UK law
And created the cleanest rivers, beaches, water and air since the industrial revolution
Over to you, Tory fans: create your own list of all the wonderful achievements in the last 14 years.
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@jamiejosh96 I know the top 1% pay a lot of the tax. I’m not disputing that fact. They should be paying even more.
As for “paying over the odds” children in private schools, private healthcare, private roads. Where to start? Private schools are treated as charities, people who work in private healthcare were trained in public healthcare, the % of private roads in this country is minuscule. No doubt these top 1% spend 99.9% of their time driving on public roads. What a pathetic point. What about the people who do the actual work which generates the wealth for these people? Where were they educated, where do they go if sick, where do they live, how do they commute, who do they turn to in the event of an emergency, what the miliary or intelligence agencies which keep them safe etc etc?
In the '50s and '60s, the period historians call 'the golden age of capitalism.' This was the period with the highest rates of growth, the most innovation, when we put a man on the moon. During Eisenhower's presidency, the top marginal tax rate in the US was 91& and the top estate tax was over 70%. The UK is the most unequal country in Europe, only Bulgaria has greater income inequality.
My point re Brexit and GDP was it is a political choice to be poorer. We didn’t have to leave the Single Market or Customs Union. The fact the country is poorer means we have less to spend on public services. I know that wasn’t on the side of a red bus.
The Establishment has brain washed you perfectly. You’re their ideal “useful idiot”. The Establishment is shielded by the deflection of popular anger directed at those at the bottom of society, rather than those at the top. Low-paid workers are encouraged by the media and politicians to envy the supposedly luxurious conditions of benefit-claiming unemployed people, rather than resent their employers for paying them insufficient wages. Private-sector workers with no pensions are encouraged to envy public-sector workers whose pensions are still intact. Those who cannot get council housing – because governments have refused to build it – or get secure jobs – because politicians of all stripes have allowed them to be stripped from the economy – are encouraged to envy immigrants supposedly getting what is rightfully theirs.
You should be more concerned at the people arriving in this country in private jets than small boats. The Establishment have you angry at the wrong people.
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- The panel made the case that January 6 was not an impromptu riot but a planned attack on the Capitol meant to overturn the results of a democratic election, driven by statements from Trump.
- Committee chair Representative Bennie Thompson made note of the fact that violent far-right groups such as the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys played important roles, spurring the crowd on at crucial moments in the attack.
-The committee placed the Capitol riot in a larger context of lies about widespread election fraud, promoted by Trump at every level of government, in order to overturn the 2020 election.
- Witnesses testified they told Trump that there was no proof of fraud, to little effect. Former Acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue said that he told Trump “flat-out” that his claims were “just not supported by the evidence”.
- Trump’s former Attorney General William Barr testified that Trump brushed aside claims that there was no evidence of voter fraud, saying that the former president was “detached from reality” and that Trump was not interested in what “the actual facts are”.
- Trump used claims of election fraud to raise funds from his supporters, in what Democratic Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren called “the big rip-off”. An investigator with the committee stated that Trump and his allies raised $250m, calling for donations for an “election defence fund”. That fund did not exist.
- To “win”, Trump planned to replace electors, who cast votes in the electoral college in line with the outcome of the popular vote in their state, with a more pliant group who would ignore the outcome of the popular vote. The committee called this the “fake electors” plot.
- In a phone call, Trump asked Brad Raffensperger, Georgia’s secretary of state, to “find” the votes Trump needed to win the state. “I only need 11,000 votes, fellas. I need 11,000 votes; give me a break.”
Local election workers said they were inundated with threats from Trump supporters as the former president pushed the lie that the election had been stolen.
- Wandrea Moss, an election worker in Georgia, said that her life turned “upside down” as she and her family became the victims of violent threats from Trump supporters and conspiracy theories about fraud. Her mother, Ruby Freeman, asked, “Do you know how it feels to have the president of the United States target you?”
- US Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue showed the committee a handwritten note from a meeting where he quoted Trump as saying: “Just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican congressmen.”
- When department officials rebuffed Trump’s claims of fraud, he considered replacing them with officials who would go along with him. At one point, Trump is said to have considered replacing acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen with Jeffrey Clark, who witnesses claimed was not qualified but would have been more likely to go along with Trump’s claims.
- A draft letter by Clark and his adviser to the Georgia state assembly falsely alleging widespread fraud was at the heart of Clark’s efforts to reverse Trump’s loss. Donoghue called the letter “so extreme to me [that] I had a hard time getting my head around”. Cheney said the letter would have rubber-stamped Trump’s lies about the election.
- Hutchinson testified that Trump became “furious” when supporters carrying weapons were turned away from his rally before the march to the Capitol. Hutchinson quoted Trump as saying “They’re not here to hurt me. Let them in; let my people in.”
- Trump was “irate” when he was told he would not be able to join his supporters as they marched to the Capitol, and allegedly lunged at the steering wheel of the vehicle returning him to the White House, Hutchinson said she was told.
- White House staff were divided over how to respond to the insurrection. Some urged the president to issue a strong denunciation, while others hoped to deflect blame away from the president, who was reluctant to condemn the rioters.
- Some in the administration discussed invoking the 25th Amendment, which allows for a transfer of power if the president is deemed unfit to serve.
- Hutchinson said Trump had a history of outbursts and had thrown his food against the wall when he learned that Attorney General William Barr had said in a December 2020 interview there was no evidence of election fraud.
- vice Chair Liz Cheney said that Trump tried to contact a witness before they testified and that the incident had been referred to the Justice Department. Cheney added that the committee took “any efforts to influence witness testimony very seriously”.
- The committee connected Trump’s rhetoric to the actions of far-right groups such as the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys. A former member of the Oath Keepers called the group violent and dangerous, and a former intelligence official testified that the proposed actions on January 6 enhanced coordination between far-right groups.
- Witnesses described a tense atmosphere in the White House as various members of the administration squared off with each other over competing approaches to the stolen election lie. At one point, Trump ally Rudy Giuliani accused aides unwilling to promote the myth of election fraud “a bunch of p***ies”.
- Committee chair Bennie Thompson said Trump ignored the pleas of his own family, and refused to call for an end to the riot.
- Congresswoman Elaine Luria said for 187 minutes Trump refused to act and watched the events unfolding on television from his dining room in a “selfish desire to stay in power”.
- Panel members said Trump did not call law enforcement, military leaders, or government officials to stop the violence. Instead, he called senators “to encourage them to delay or object to the certification” of the election.
- An anonymous White House security official said that members of the vice president’s security team were afraid for their lives as many rioters turned their anger on Pence for his refusal to overturn the results of the election.
- Congressman Adam Kinzinger said Trump’s conduct the day of the riot was a clear violation of his oath of office. Two other members of the panel, Luria and Liz Cheney, repeated that same accusation.
Who's the klown 🤡?
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Russia has played its hand badly: Hostomel, Kyiv, Kharkiv, Sumy, or Chernihiv, Ukrainian breakthroughs at Izium and Kupyansk, Black Sea Fleet debacle, liberation of Kherson, 3,000 Russian tanks destroyed or captured, dozens of Russian generals killed, oil refineries burning across Russia, shot down A-50s, Finland and Sweden now part of NATO, 40% of government spending on the military etc.
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Donald Trump was the first president in 129 years to lose the popular vote twice.
He was the first president in 89 years to lose the presidency, the House and the Senate in a single term.
He was the first president in 28 years to lose re-election.
He lost the most jobs of any president since Herbert Hoover.
He lost the Trump University case, the fake charity case, the NY business fraud case, the E. Jean Carroll sexual assault and defamation case, he lost a lawsuit against The NY Times, lost countless appeals, lost 61 lawsuits related to the 2020 election, lost the state of Georgia three times, lost Pennsylvania, Arizona, Texas & Wisconsin twice, and he even managed to lose 8 times at the friggin Emmy Awards.
He’s under 4 indictments, facing 91 felony charges and to date, he’s been ordered to pay more than a hundred million dollars in penalties with a potential $370 million more in the week ahead where he may also lose his right to engage in the state's real estate industry for life and be barred entirely from doing business in New York.
All of this, while he’s been saying that windmills kill whales, that magnets stop working when wet, that he ran against Obama, that E. Jean Carroll is a political rival and that Nikki Haley was in charge of security on January 6th, for which one could ostensibly make the case that in addition to everything else he’s been losing — he is also losing his damn mind.
He once said there would be so much winning people would get sick of it. When in reality, when it comes to Donald Trump in the last several years, there’s been nothing but losing.
He was right about one thing however — we are sick of it.
And by it, I mean him.
We like former presidents who aren’t losers and at the end of the day, Donald Trump is a loser, maybe the biggest loser in history. Many people say so. The best people.
Believe me.
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@BillSikes. The left wing is generally characterised by an emphasis on "ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism" while the right wing is characterised by an emphasis on "notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism." Which one do you think relates to Jesus' actions and deeds?
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The Tories said they were going to control the national debt. It's gone up every year they've been in office.
The Tories said Brexit would make us richer. It's made us far poorer.
The Tories said they would reduce inequality. Our inequality is one of the worst in the OECD
The Tories said they'd fix the NHS. NHS waiting list is the highest on record, and was also the highest on record before Covid.
The Tories said they'd reduce council tax. The amount you pay has gone up every year.
The Tories said they'd be a clean, transparent govt. Corruption has risen hugely, and that's before even factoring in the 20% of Covid contracts that raised a "red flag" for corruption by international standards.
The Tories said they'd solve housing problems. Housing prices have ballooned and the crisis gets worse every year.
The Tories said they'd increase education funding. Education funding has plummeted.
The Tories said they'd resolve social problems. Racial and other hate crimes have bloomed.
Tories said they'd improve our productivity. Productivity has dropped below the levels under Labour.
Tories said they'd be strong on law and order. They cut over 20,000 police and almost 1/4 of prison and probation staff.
Tories said they'd solve migration. They drove out almost 100,000 EU-born NHS staff, immigration from the rest of the world increased, and now they're arguing about how to reverse it all.
Tories said they'd control inflation. Right...
Tories promised they'd reduce taxes. The UK's tax burden is the highest for 70 years.
The Tories promised sound government and good leadership. Ahem...
Tories promised high wages. Wage growth since 2015 Germany: 40% France: 39% UK: 9% They've delivered 1/4 the wage performance of our economic rivals.
But they cut tax for the rich, and slashed corporation tax to one of the lowest in the OECD. They're looking after the already-wealthy, but failing in every other way. So unless you own a corporation or are one of the richest 5% of Britons, you're very, very wrong to vote Tory.
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"You could have slowed down the helicopter substantially. You could have stopped the helicopter.
You could have gone up, you could have gone down. You could have gone straight up, straight down. You could have turned, you could have done a million different maneuvers. For some reason, it just kept going, and then made a slight turn at the very end. And it was by that time, it was too late.
They shouldn't have been at the same height, because if it wasn't the same. Height, you could have gone under it or over it, and nobody realized, or they didn't say that it's at the same height. At the same height … would … it would still wouldn't have been great, but you would have missed it by quite a bit. Could have been 1000 feet higher. It could have been 200 feet lower, but it was exactly at the same height, and somebody should have been able to point that out."
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"Giving in to nuclear blackmail won't end the conventional war in Ukraine. It would, however, make future nuclear war much more likely. Making concessions to a nuclear blackmailer teachers him that this sort of threat will get him what he wants, which guarantees further crisis scenarios down the line. It teaches other dictators, future potential blackmailers, that all they need is a nuclear weapon and some bluster to get what they want, which means more nuclear confrontations. It tends to convince everyone that the only way to defend themselves is to build nuclear weapons, which means global nuclear proliferation. Insofar as there is some kind of nuclear threat, it is directed not against us, but against the Ukrainians. They have been resisting nuclear blackmail for seven months; and if they can do it, surely we can too." Timothy Snyder
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Someone on Quora asked “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:
A few things spring to mind -
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honor and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff the Queensberry rules of basic decency & he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that: Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are. You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump. And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.
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@krishnan-resurrection714 When you say you're "British" what do you mean exactly? Iron Age Britons, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans etc?
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A reminder for those indoctrinated by right wing propaganda, with memory problems or those who haven't graduated high school. Under Blair and Brown between 1997-2010 the Labour Party achieved:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London 2012
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
Now what have the Tories done in 12 years?
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@andyhoward940 Why do right wing fckwits obsess about the selling of the gold and the note left by the treasury secretary, a lame joke?
The estimates of the cost of the sale of the UK gold reserves range from £2bn to £7bn. For some perspective, the Bank of England just spent £65bn to buy bonds to ease pressure on pension funds and insurance companies following the Tories' mini budget. The first year of the failed track and trace app cost £12bn. More perspective - the increased costs of government borrowing due to the disastrous mini-budget is £20 billion.
Do you know what the government debt was in 2010 when Labour left office? Do you know what it is now?
£2,365,000,000,000. Two point three six five trillion pounds. That's how big the national debt was in March 2022. When Labour left office in 2010 it was £995,000,000,000 (995 billion). So, after 12 years of Tory austerity, what happened to the other £1.4 trillion? Who "bankrupted" the country?
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On the sets of adult movies, there used to be a class of employee belonging to the makeup department, called a fluffer.
The job of the fluffer was to ensure that the male star’s member was fully erect before shooting started. It saved time, and ensured that the male performer was good to go as soon as the cameras began to roll. How the fluffer did this was very much up to the conscience of the individual fluffer, but I’m sure you can imagine.
Fluffers are not much used anymore—not in adult films, anyway.
Instead, fluffers have moved from adult entertainment to the world of what you might call ‘newstainment’.
Nigel Farage is a fluffer.
His job is not to tell the truth, but to stroke his viewers’ opinions in such a way that their generally unfocused sense of grievance rears up, turgid and stiff, so that they can wave it about in public as if it were something to be proud of.
Truth ain’t nothing to do with it.
Nigel Farage just wants to get your blood flowing.
And he was very good at it, wasn’t he? Because you’re dancing to his tune right now.
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The large majority of asylum seekers are assessed by the Home Office as being genuine refugees. From the gov.uk website:
"Grant rates vary considerably by nationality as the protection requirements of specific nationalities or individuals vary. Of those nationalities that commonly claim asylum in the UK, Libyans (98%) and Syrians (96%) typically have high grant rates at initial decision, while nationals of India (3%), China (19%) and Bangladesh (16%) typically have low grant rates.
Only six nationalities, in the top ten, had a grant rate at initial decision of more than 50%, that is applicants were more likely than not to be granted protection. These six nationalities – Iran, Afghanistan, Eritrea, Vietnam, Sudan and Syria - together accounted for more than one third (36%) of asylum applications."
"Some initial decisions (mainly, but not entirely, refusals) will go on to be appealed. There were 3,663 appeals lodged on initial decisions in the year ending March 2021, of the appeals resolved over the period, 47% were allowed (meaning the applicant successfully overturned the initial decision)."
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@lynchetts Someone on Quora asked “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:
A few things spring to mind -
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honor and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff the Queensberry rules of basic decency & he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that: Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are. You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump. And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.
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Labour would:
Freeze energy bills now paid for with a windfall tax on the huge profits of oil and gas companies
Keep bills down in the long term by insulating 19 million homes
Establish GB Energy, a new publicly owned company, so the UK can’t be held to ransom over energy supply by dictators like Putin
Create thousands of good, well-paid jobs across our country, including for plumbers, electricians, engineers and technicians
Make Britain a clean power by 2030 by harnessing the power of marine and tidal energy, quadrupling offshore wind, doubling onshore wind, tripling solar power and ensuring the long-term security of nuclear power
Safeguard nature and our children’s future with a Clean Air Act, and crack down on water companies who dump sewage into our rivers and seas
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NATO enlargement is not directed against Russia. Every sovereign nation has the right to choose its own security arrangements. This is a fundamental principle of European security, one that Russia has also subscribed to and should respect. In fact, after the end of the Cold War, Russia committed to building an inclusive European security architecture, including through the Charter of Paris, the establishment of the OSCE, the creation of the Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council, and the NATO-Russia Founding Act.
NATO never promised Russia it would not expand after the Cold War. NATO's door has been open to new members since it was founded in 1949 – and that has never changed. This “Open Door Policy” is enshrined in Article 10 of NATO’s founding treaty, which says “any other European State in a position to further the principles of this Treaty and to contribute to the security of the North Atlantic” can apply for membership. Decisions on membership are taken by consensus among all Allies. No treaty signed by the United States, Europe and Russia included provisions on NATO membership.
The idea of NATO expansion beyond a united Germany was not on the agenda in 1989, particularly as the Warsaw Pact still existed. This was confirmed by Mikhail Gorbachev in an interview in 2014: "The topic of 'NATO expansion' was not discussed at all, and it wasn't brought up in those years. I say this with full responsibility. Not a single Eastern European country raised the issue, not even after the Warsaw Pact ceased to exist in 1991. Western leaders didn't bring it up, either."
Declassified White House transcripts also reveal that, in 1997, Bill Clinton consistently refused Boris Yeltsin's offer of a 'gentlemen's agreement' that no former Soviet Republics would enter NATO: "I can't make commitments on behalf of NATO, and I'm not going to be in the position myself of vetoing NATO expansion with respect to any country, much less letting you or anyone else do so…NATO operates by consensus."
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They partied , they bet on elections , they crashed the economy, they broke every public service, they destroyed integrity and honesty in public office , they paid their mates billions , they put their friends in the House of Lords, they gave their cronies knighthoods, they ll have second jobs, they lied again and again, they were convicted by police, they went on holiday when they shouldn’t and they have the cheek to question Keir Starmer’s work ethic.
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Who are the "English"? Iron Age Britons, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans? We're a nation of immigrants.
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GBeebies fear mongering: illegal / economic migrants, woke academics, woke civil servants, net zero "madness", cashless society, trans people, Labour, lefty lawyers, EU faceless bureaucrats, Harry & Meghan, more on Harry & Meghan, Stop the Oil protestors, woke clergy, woke BBC presenters, woke & lazy NHS staff who are on TikTok all day, woke and lazy rail unions... who did I forget?
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"Giving in to nuclear blackmail won't end the conventional war in Ukraine. It would, however, make future nuclear war much more likely. Making concessions to a nuclear blackmailer teachers him that this sort of threat will get him what he wants, which guarantees further crisis scenarios down the line. It teaches other dictators, future potential blackmailers, that all they need is a nuclear weapon and some bluster to get what they want, which means more nuclear confrontations. It tends to convince everyone that the only way to defend themselves is to build nuclear weapons, which means global nuclear proliferation. Insofar as there is some kind of nuclear threat, it is directed not against us, but against the Ukrainians. They have been resisting nuclear blackmail for seven months; and if they can do it, surely we can too." Timothy Snyder
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@apebass2215 Here we go, The Great Reset, New World Order, Illuminati, socialist authoritarian government.
The right of the Tory party, the ERG Brexit nutters are influenced by IEA, Atlas, Cato, ExxonMobil, Charles Koch, Philip Morris, Chase Foundation, and other libertarian "thinktanks" based at 55 Tufton Street. They thought their decades long dream was realised when Truss was made PM and Kwarteng announced the Minfordian libertarian budget. We all know how that worked out.
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The key document in international refugee protection is the 1951 Refugee Convention, which the UK played an important part in drafting. The Convention does not require refugees to claim asylum in the first safe country they reach, or make it illegal to seek asylum if a claimant has passed through another safe country. While asylum-seekers do not have an unlimited right to choose their country of asylum, some might have very legitimate reasons to seek protection in a specific country, including where they might have family links. They may not have had a reasonable opportunity to claim asylum in other countries that might appear at first glance to be “safe.”
There are about 21 million refugees globally (over 26 million counting Palestinian refugees in the Middle East). About 86% live in lower or middle income countries, and 73% are hosted by States neighbouring countries of origin. As to Europe, last year, France had 95,600 asylum applications, Germany 122,170, Spain 88,530, Greece 40,560 and the UK 29,456 – a drop of 18% year on year.
Far more asylum-seekers remain in France than come to the UK. France had more than three times the asylum applications of the UK last year. Due to COVID (and the closure of many transport links), more asylum-seekers trying to enter the UK came via small boats crossing the Channel. We understand the concerns - these sea journeys are dangerous, putting at risk those on board - but overall numbers of asylum-seekers entering the UK are down year on year and compared to a decade ago.
If all refugees were obliged to remain in the first safe country they encountered, the whole system would probably collapse. The countries closer to zones of conflict and displacement would be totally overwhelmed, while countries further removed would share little or none of the responsibility. This would hardly be fair, or workable, and runs against the spirit of the Convention.
The Refugee Convention was written decades ago and the world has changed. Nonetheless the Convention and its 1967 Protocol remain cornerstones of refugee protection, and their provisions are as relevant now as when they were drafted. This year, the Convention turns 70 years old and has withstood the test of time. It is important that all countries cooperate and share the responsibility for global displacement, which currently falls overwhelmingly on lower- and middle-income countries. What is needed are concerted regional and global responses to forced displacement, not standalone national initiatives.
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@stequality No - the basics is Tory ideological austerity - decrease in public services, cuts to benefits, lowering of corporation tax, unable/not interested in closing tax avoidance loop holes, real wages decreased 20%+ since 2010, public sector debt, public sector borrowing, macro-economic stability; Brexit - devalued pound, lack of investment, decreased trade, GDP lower by at least 4%, stagnant economy, decreased business confidence, capital flight, staff shortages; corruption on an industrial scale... what have I forgotten? Tories out.
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@englishjon8637 The Tories are a wannabe fascist government. They are implementing corporate fascism. Fascism is defined as the alignment of power, nationalism, and authoritarian government.
Some examples:
- Powerful and Continuing Nationalism: the Tory culture war, police protecting statues, defacing a statue results in greater prison time than offences against people.
- Disregard for human rights: people are more likely to approve of longer incarcerations of prisoners, they want to scrap the Human Rights Act.
- Obsession with crime & punishment: for example the recent Policing, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill, making protests essentially illegal.
- Obsession with national security.
- Religion and ruling elite tied together: for example the blocking of anti-capitalist teaching in schools.
- A controlled mass media: the UK media is controlled by a handful of right wing billionaires, now we have GB News, Rupert Murdoch’s News UK TV, former Daily Mail editor Paul Dacre potentially heading-up the media regulator Ofcom, and a Tory donor being put in charge of the BBC. The Tories want to privatise Channel 4 and defund the BBC.
- Identification of enemies/scape-goats as a unifying cause: From immigrants to Muslims to disabled people, the UK establishment has always had “enemies” and “scape-goats”. Now, we’re seeing left-wing activists, Black Lives Matter, Extinction Rebellion and the “woke” being the target.
- Rampant sexism
- Power of corporations protected: corporate tax is one of the lowest in the world, there are numerous tax avoidance loop holes and tax havens.
- Power of labour unions suppressed or eliminated
- Rampant cronyism and corruption: this was off-the-scale during the pandemic.
- Disrespect towards intellectuals & the arts
- Fraudulent elections: the 2015 General Election and 2016 EU referendum were marred by allegations of election fraud. The Tories have said they want to redraw constituencies to give themselves further advantage in the first-past-the-post system. The Tories want to bring in Voter ID to make it harder for people to vote (there was no voter fraud).
It’s disturbing these Tories aren’t far enough to the right for you. You must be a fanatic.
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What they did in Avdiivka would make Field Marshall Haig beam with pride: they launched assault after assault through a portion where approach was somewhat less suicidal than the most. The first few assaults might have been through active mine fields, but they at least cleared the mines that way.
Then they launched frontal assault after frontal assault, every 20 minutes, for several consecutive days. That in turn made Ukrainians run low on ammunition, strategic stockpile was being depleted, Russian drones were overhead trying to inflict casualties whenever possible, aviation was dropping bombs left, right and center, without regard of friendly fire. Eventually the pressure was too intense for Ukrainian defenders to handle and they had to step back. Their mission was accomplished anyway, the new line of fortifications behind Avdiivka is ready and Russians expended enough materiel so Ukrainians have time to regroup behind the line.
The gully through which Russians attacked was called “the valley of death” before the poorly supported infantry assaults across it began. It’s simply not a good approach to the town, but it was the one Russians could access well enough to press through. According to Russian milibogger leaking what might be “official” info, Russians lost 16,000 men killed and incapacitated through wounds. This is probably just the ones they were able to recover and not hide, i.e. not including “missing” (men killed or left for dead and never recovered) that might double that total.
Russians didn’t suffer “heavy” losses in Avdiivka. They suffered grotesque losses. But they’re mostly poorly trained cannon fodder infantry that doesn’t seriously impact their future operations. The fact they also lost an armored division worth of heavy equipment is more consequential in that regard.
Plus I suppose getting new recruits is going to be a tad harder every time Russians sacrifice a small city worth of men to take a small town.
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What they did in Avdiivka would make Field Marshall Haig beam with pride: they launched assault after assault through a portion where approach was somewhat less suicidal than the most. The first few assaults might have been through active mine fields, but they at least cleared the mines that way.
Then they launched frontal assault after frontal assault, every 20 minutes, for several consecutive days. That in turn made Ukrainians run low on ammunition, strategic stockpile was being depleted, Russian drones were overhead trying to inflict casualties whenever possible, aviation was dropping bombs left, right and center, without regard of friendly fire. Eventually the pressure was too intense for Ukrainian defenders to handle and they had to step back. Their mission was accomplished anyway, the new line of fortifications behind Avdiivka is ready and Russians expended enough materiel so Ukrainians have time to regroup behind the line.
The gully through which Russians attacked was called “the valley of death” before the poorly supported infantry assaults across it began. It’s simply not a good approach to the town, but it was the one Russians could access well enough to press through. According to Russian milibogger leaking what might be “official” info, Russians lost 16,000 men killed and incapacitated through wounds. This is probably just the ones they were able to recover and not hide, i.e. not including “missing” (men killed or left for dead and never recovered) that might double that total.
Russians didn’t suffer “heavy” losses in Avdiivka. They suffered grotesque losses. But they’re mostly poorly trained cannon fodder infantry that doesn’t seriously impact their future operations. The fact they also lost an armored division worth of heavy equipment is more consequential in that regard.
Plus I suppose getting new recruits is going to be a tad harder every time Russians sacrifice a small city worth of men to take a small town.
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@purplehaze8557 I'll quote a leading expert on fascism Timothy Snyder : "As a cult of irrationality and violence, fascism could not be vanquished as an argument: So long as Nazi Germany seemed strong, Europeans and others were tempted. It was only on the battlefields of World War II that fascism was defeated. Now it’s back — and this time, the country fighting a fascist war of destruction is Russia. Should Russia win, fascists around the world will be comforted.
We err in limiting our fears of fascism to a certain image of Hitler and the Holocaust. Fascism was Italian in origin, popular in Romania — where fascists were Orthodox Christians who dreamed of cleansing violence — and had adherents throughout Europe (and America). In all its varieties, it was about the triumph of will over reason.
Because of that, it’s impossible to define satisfactorily. People disagree, often vehemently, over what constitutes fascism. But today’s Russia meets most of the criteria that scholars tend to apply. It has a cult around a single leader, Vladimir Putin. It has a cult of the dead, organized around World War II. It has a myth of a past golden age of imperial greatness, to be restored by a war of healing violence — the murderous war on Ukraine."
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@purplehaze8557 Maybe this was too long for you to read. I'll repost:
I'll quote a leading expert on fascism Timothy Snyder : "As a cult of irrationality and violence, fascism could not be vanquished as an argument: So long as Nazi Germany seemed strong, Europeans and others were tempted. It was only on the battlefields of World War II that fascism was defeated. Now it’s back — and this time, the country fighting a fascist war of destruction is Russia. Should Russia win, fascists around the world will be comforted.
We err in limiting our fears of fascism to a certain image of Hitler and the Holocaust. Fascism was Italian in origin, popular in Romania — where fascists were Orthodox Christians who dreamed of cleansing violence — and had adherents throughout Europe (and America). In all its varieties, it was about the triumph of will over reason.
Because of that, it’s impossible to define satisfactorily. People disagree, often vehemently, over what constitutes fascism. But today’s Russia meets most of the criteria that scholars tend to apply. It has a cult around a single leader, Vladimir Putin. It has a cult of the dead, organized around World War II. It has a myth of a past golden age of imperial greatness, to be restored by a war of healing violence — the murderous war on Ukraine."
I'll add that fascism is also characterised by attacks on the judiciary, democracy, trade unions, media, universities, women, politicises the police and scapegoats minorities.
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@kerrygold6494
A Johns Hopkins 2020 report using data from the Centers for Disease Control’s Underlying Cause of Death database, part of the Wide-ranging Online Data for Epidemiologic Research (WONDER) database found:
- "wide variations among states. States with the highest gun death rates in 2020 were rural states in the South or West. Mississippi had the highest rate of gun deaths in 2020: 28.63 per 100,000 deaths, followed by Louisiana at 26.26 per 100,000, and Wyoming at 25.9 per 100,000. Conversely, Hawaii had the lowest gun death rate: 3.37 per 100,000, followed by Massachusetts at 3.74 per 100,000 deaths, and New Jersey at 5.03 per 100,000.
The researchers note that the states with the lowest gun death rates have stronger gun laws. Each of the five states with the lowest gun death rate had both the following gun laws in place in 2020: 1) a firearm purchaser licensing law or a waiting period; and 2) an Extreme Risk Protection Order law. Purchaser licensing laws require an individual to apply for and obtain a license before purchasing a firearm. Extreme Risk Protection Order laws are mechanisms to temporarily remove firearms from individuals at risk for suicide or violence against others.
Conversely, states that had the highest gun death rates in 2020 had stand-your-ground legislation, or laws that authorize individuals to use lethal force even in situations they might have otherwise been able to walk away from, and three of the five had permitless carry laws, which allow individuals to carry a concealed gun in public without a permit."
To suggest people are safer with guns is a simplistic, infantile argument. Compare the US murder rate to countries with strict gun laws.
What is absolutely bonkers to me is these so called "pro lifers" wanting strict control over abortions but not guns. The irony is lost on them.
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@LordWalsallian There is a difference. A big difference.
Under Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and yes the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation of Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland – Good Friday Agreement
– a Britain in Europe’s mainstream not in Europe’s slipstream
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories achieved in 14 years?
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@splaffyduck5787 All those snowflakes moaning about climate change when the affects are:
Hotter temperatures
As greenhouse gas concentrations rise, so does the global surface temperature. The last decade, 2011-2020, is the warmest on record. Since the 1980s, each decade has been warmer than the previous one. Nearly all land areas are seeing more hot days and heat waves. Higher temperatures increase heat-related illnesses and make working outdoors more difficult. Wildfires start more easily and spread more rapidly when conditions are hotter. Temperatures in the Arctic have warmed at least twice as fast as the global average.
More severe storms
Destructive storms have become more intense and more frequent in many regions. As temperatures rise, more moisture evaporates, which exacerbates extreme rainfall and flooding, causing more destructive storms. The frequency and extent of tropical storms is also affected by the warming ocean. Cyclones, hurricanes, and typhoons feed on warm waters at the ocean surface. Such storms often destroy homes and communities, causing deaths and huge economic losses.
Increased drought
Climate change is changing water availability, making it scarcer in more regions. Global warming exacerbates water shortages in already water-stressed regions and is leading to an increased risk of agricultural droughts affecting crops, and ecological droughts increasing the vulnerability of ecosystems. Droughts can also stir destructive sand and dust storms that can move billions of tons of sand across continents. Deserts are expanding, reducing land for growing food. Many people now face the threat of not having enough water on a regular basis.
A warming, rising ocean
The ocean soaks up most of the heat from global warming. The rate at which the ocean is warming strongly increased over the past two decades, across all depths of the ocean. As the ocean warms, its volume increases since water expands as it gets warmer. Melting ice sheets also cause sea levels to rise, threatening coastal and island communities. In addition, the ocean absorbs carbon dioxide, keeping it from the atmosphere. But more carbon dioxide makes the ocean more acidic, which endangers marine life and coral reefs.
Loss of species
Climate change poses risks to the survival of species on land and in the ocean. These risks increase as temperatures climb. Exacerbated by climate change, the world is losing species at a rate 1,000 times greater than at any other time in recorded human history. One million species are at risk of becoming extinct within the next few decades. Forest fires, extreme weather, and invasive pests and diseases are among many threats related to climate change. Some species will be able to relocate and survive, but others will not.
Not enough food
Changes in the climate and increases in extreme weather events are among the reasons behind a global rise in hunger and poor nutrition. Fisheries, crops, and livestock may be destroyed or become less productive. With the ocean becoming more acidic, marine resources that feed billions of people are at risk. Changes in snow and ice cover in many Arctic regions have disrupted food supplies from herding, hunting, and fishing. Heat stress can diminish water and grasslands for grazing, causing declining crop yields and affecting livestock.
More health risks
Climate change is the single biggest health threat facing humanity. Climate impacts are already harming health, through air pollution, disease, extreme weather events, forced displacement, pressures on mental health, and increased hunger and poor nutrition in places where people cannot grow or find sufficient food. Every year, environmental factors take the lives of around 13 million people. Changing weather patterns are expanding diseases, and extreme weather events increase deaths and make it difficult for health care systems to keep up.
Poverty and displacement
Climate change increases the factors that put and keep people in poverty. Floods may sweep away urban slums, destroying homes and livelihoods. Heat can make it difficult to work in outdoor jobs. Water scarcity may affect crops. Over the past decade (2010–2019), weather-related events displaced an estimated 23.1 million people on average each year, leaving many more vulnerable to poverty. Most refugees come from countries that are most vulnerable and least ready to adapt to the impacts of climate change.
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Lawyers consider Braverman to be, by some distance, the worst Attorney General in our lifetime and possibly in the 800 yr history of the role. Braverman repeatedly abused her office for political capital; condoned law-breaking; jeopardised a potential criminal investigation into a political ally; briefed against judges in the tabloids; and stayed silent as the criminal justice system collapsed.
Braverman said, “I have personally benefitted from free movement of workers, having lived in France for 2 years as an ERASMUS student. Whilst there, I studied for a Masters in European Law…specialising in EU Competition Law”. Then joined the pro-Brexit ERG, denying future generations the same opportunity she had.
She has lied about EU contributions, she blamed women for men looking at porn in parliament, has misunderstood multiple legal judgements, misrepresented the ministerial code, has advocated of expelling "disloyal" backbenchers despite having been one herself under May, conflates Brexit and the ECHR, and said the Tories were 'engaged in a battle against cultural Marxism' a term favoured by far right extremists.
I could go on.
Braverman is not fit to be a minister, let alone Attorney General, let alone Prime Minister.
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@ScoTreVan That's not very Christian behaviour. Don't you believe in "love thy neighbour"? I brought up the GFA agreement because you flippantly mentioned leaving the ECHR, without pause for thought at the consequences.
The real and only cause of the debacle at Manston and other failing centres is this: the number of asylum applications processed within six months has fallen from almost 90% to about 4%. It’s not that more people are arriving than ever before, it’s that more of them aren’t being processed, and so are stuck in the asylum system for years. Efficiency has been dropping sharply since 2014, one year after Theresa May established the “hostile environment” and in the middle of George Osborne’s austerity programme. The intersection of those two forces created an underfunded, cruel Home Office, and with it Britain’s immigration “crisis”.
And it is a crisis that the government has every interest in maintaining, or at least no pressing interest in resolving. The Tories have finessed a narrative in which the country is under a migrant siege that the government is trying valiantly to rebuff, but is frustrated in its efforts by a string of culprits – “activist” lawyers, human rights law, tofu eaters, the Labour opposition. It is that tired fallback of failing rightwing government: plead helplessness in the face of a ubiquitous fifth column.
The illusion of deluge is more easily maintained at certain times than others, giving the false migrant crisis a rhythm that feels genuine as it ebbs and flows in and out of the political and media agenda. But that pulse hasn’t correlated with arrivals – indeed, concerns about immigration waned for a period after Brexit, even as the number of arrivals rose.
Asylum seekers have become the government’s own refuge. In them, there is an evergreen problem for which a Tory crusade is the only solution. This is a valuable asset for a government that has run out of road, but can play on everything from fears of terrorism, sexual assault, economic drag and cultural overwhelm to extend its relevance. Like Donald Trump’s wall, or the windmill in Animal Farm, our borders will always be vulnerable and sabotaged by enemies, while our government fights like hell to build them back up.
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@macvas7367 In 2020, 88.2 percent of North Korea's foreign trade was with China. While the share of trade with China has dropped off slightly in 2020, North Korea's trade is mainly dependent on China.
In 2020, China exported $491M to North Korea. The main products that China exported to North Korea are Soybean Oil ($65.8M), Wheat Flours ($35.5M), and Raw Sugar ($31.9M). During the last 25 years the exports of China to North Korea have increased at an annualized rate of 0.058%, from $484M in 1995 to $491M in 2020.
In 2020, North Korea exported $44.1M to China . The main products that North Korea exported to China were Electricity ($11.8M), Ferroalloys ($10.4M), and Watch Movements ($6.79M). During the last 25 years the exports of North Korea to China have decreased at an annualized rate of 1.14%, from $58.7M in 1995 to $44.1M in 2020.
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Unlike flying or astral projection, walking through walls is a totally earth-related craft, but a lot more interesting than pot making or driftwood lamps. I got started at a picnic up in Bowstring in the northern part of the state. A fellow walked through a brick wall right there in the park. I said, 'Say, I want to try that.' Stone walls are best, then brick and wood. Wooden walls with fiberglass insulation and steel doors aren't so good. They won't hurt you. If your wall walking is done properly, both you and the wall are left intact. It is just that they aren't pleasant somehow. The worst things are wire fences, maybe it's the molecular structure of the alloy or just the amount of give in a fence, I don't know, but I've torn my jacket and lost my hat in a lot of fences. The best approach to a wall is, first, two hands placed flat against the surface; it's a matter of concentration and just the right pressure. You will feel the dry, cool inner wall with your fingers, then there is a moment of total darkness before you step through on the other side.
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Compare and contrast what Labout achieved in 13 years under Blair and Brown with the Tories record the past 12 years:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and yes the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation of Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland – Good Friday Agreement
– a Britain in Europe’s mainstream not in Europe’s slipstream
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
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@T5Zplayer Under Blair and Brown:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and yes the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation of Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland – Good Friday Agreement
– a Britain in Europe’s mainstream not in Europe’s slipstream
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 13 years?
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If you voted Tory in 2010 to reduce debt, you made a mistake. They increased public sector debt every year.
If you voted for Brexit to make us richer, you made a mistake. It has made us much, much poorer.
If you voted for Brexit to improve all the trading we could do when we were free of the EU, you made a mistake. Our trading has gone off a cliff.
If you voted Tory to reduce inequality, you made a mistake. Inequality in the UK is now higher than any comparable economy except USA
If you voted Tory to improve law and order, you made a mistake. Police numbers tumbled after they took office.
If you voted Tory to reduce immigration, you made a mistake. Immigration from the EU shrank, but from the rest of the world it grew.
If you voted Tory or Brexit to improve your wages, you made a mistake. Growth since 2015 Germany: 40%, France: 39%, UK: 9%. We're 1/4 the wage performance of our economic rivals.
If you voted Tory to reduce the number of people waiting for NHS treatment, you made a mistake. Numbers have grown every year (except during Covid, when most non-urgent treatments were postponed).
If you voted Tory reduce waiting times, you made a mistake. They've also increased every year.
If you voted Tory to improve education funding, you made a mistake.
If you voted Tory to reduce the amount of council tax you pay, you made a mistake. The amount you pay is shown in blue, and has grown every year .
If you voted for Tories to stamp down on corruption, you made a mistake. It has risen hugely, before even factoring in the 20% of Covid contracts that raised a "red flag" for corruption by international standards.
If you voted Tory to reduce racist or other hate crimes, you made a mistake.
If you voted Tory to control inflation, that was a mistake. UK inflation hits 30 year high.
If you voted Tory to make housing more affordable, that was a mistake.
If you voted Tory because you wanted good leadership, you made a mistake. Cameron scores worse than even Brown, and Theresa May worse than anybody. They are HUGELY negative in all categories.
And this doesn't even include Boris Johnson.
Next time you're nodding along to the Tories, just stop for a moment, and remember all the times you agreed with them in the past.
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It was a beautiful raid. A perfect raid. People tell me they've never seen such as perfect raid. Many people are saying it's the best raid they've ever seen. The best people. All of them. They're saying it. These people. They're the best. They like me. They say: Donald, that's the best raid we've ever seen. A tremendous raid. Folks, that's what they say.
A top guy from the FBI called me, not THE top guy because that one is a total loser ok, but close, and he called me crying and he said, ‘Sir sir, they made us do it sir, they hate Trump, sir’. It’s terrible what they’ve done. The FBI used to be very special ok. Now, not so much.
This big strong man came to me, tears in his eyes, and said “Sir, that was the perfect raid. No one gets raided like you.”
As they're drilling my safe, this FBI agent, very tall, very tall and yuge, maybe 9 foot 11, tears in his eyes, comes to me and says, "Sir, sir, they made us do it. We all love you. We don't wanna be here, sir." True story.
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@HonestBottom Haha! Yeah right. Maybe you haven't noticed, but the right (in the West) fights against progress and is always on the wrong side of history. From serfdom, slavery, voting rights, welfare, education, equality (LGBTQ, feminism, racism), apartheid, human rights, environment etc the right is on the losing side trying to maintain the status quo, ie protect the interests of the elites.
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@snowyowel7961
"why do they (the Tories) keep getting elected into office." The first past the post system suits them, gerrymandering, rich donors (corporations, Russians), the billionaire Tory-supporting right wing press, the centre left parties splitting their vote.
"He (Johnson) has had the worst hand dealt him with the worst crisis since WW2 the unprecedented pandemic." So has every other country, yet they are performing better than the UK.
Tory mismanagement includes the ideologically driven austerity which led to low growth out of the financial crash and wage stagnation. This occurred under Cameron and Osborne. They compounded the problem by recklessly agreeing to the EU referendum, which further damaged a weak economy, dropping the value of the pound, decreasing investment, decreasing trade, resulting in staff shortages.
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If you have not read Eric Swalwell's questions to Hunter Biden during his hearing, you have to.
SWALWELL: Any time your father was in government, prior to the Presidency or before, did he ever operate a hotel?
BIDEN: No, he has never operated a hotel.
SWALWELL: So he’s never operated a hotel where foreign nationals spent millions at that hotel while he was in office?
BIDEN: No, he has not.
SWALWELL: Did your father ever employ in the Oval Office any direct family member to also work in the Oval Office?
BIDEN: My father has never employed any direct family members, to my knowledge.
SWALWELL: While your father was President, did anyone in the family receive 41 trademarks from China?
BIDEN: No.
SWALWELL: As President and the leader of the party, has your father ever tried to install as the chairperson of the party a daughter-in-law or anyone else in the family?
BIDEN: No. And I don’t think that anyone in my family would be crazy enough to want to be the chairperson of the DNC.
SWALWELL: Has your father ever in his time as an adult been fined $355 million by any State that he worked in?
BIDEN: No, he has not, thank God.
SWALWELL: Anyone in your family ever strike a multibillion dollar deal with the Saudi Government while your father was in office?
BIDEN: No.
SWALWELL: That’s all I’ve got.
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@Gtfallofyer Hilarious you mention trust funds, given the Tory MP who interviewed him. The steampunk C-3PO was born with a silver spoon up his butt.
Also, what facts exactly? The evidence for rapid climate change is overwhelming: rising global temperatures, warming oceans, shrinking ice sheets, retreating glaciers, decreasing snow cover, rising sea levels, Arctic sea ice declining, extreme events are increasing in frequency, increasing ocean acidification.
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Nobel Prize winning Economists who signed letter saying Harris' agenda vastly better for US Economy: Daron Acemoglu, George A. Akerlof, Abhijit Banerjee, Sir Angus Deaton, Peter A. Diamond, Douglas Diamond, Esther Duflo, Robert F. Engle III, Claudia Goldin, Sir Oliver Hart, Guido W. Imbens, Simon Johnson, Eric S. Maskin, Daniel L. McFadden, Robert C. Merton, Roger B. Myerson, William D. Nordhaus, Edmund S. Phelps, Paul M. Romer, Alvin E. Roth, Robert J. Shiller, Joseph E. Stiglitz and Richard H. Thaler.
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What's with all the WEF crap? All the The Great Reset, New World Order, Illuminati, socialist authoritarian government?
The right of the Tory party, the ERG Brexit nutters are influenced by IEA, Atlas, Cato, ExxonMobil, Charles Koch, Philip Morris, Chase Foundation, and other libertarian "thinktanks" based at 55 Tufton Street. They thought their decades long dream was realised when Truss was made PM and Kwarteng announced the Minfordian libertarian budget. We all know how that worked out.
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@christee9590 "Indigenous British people". Who do you mean exactly? Iron Age Britons, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans?
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Nobel Prize winning Economists who signed letter saying Harris' agenda vastly better for US Economy: Daron Acemoglu, George A. Akerlof, Abhijit Banerjee, Sir Angus Deaton, Peter A. Diamond, Douglas Diamond, Esther Duflo, Robert F. Engle III, Claudia Goldin, Sir Oliver Hart, Guido W. Imbens, Simon Johnson, Eric S. Maskin, Daniel L. McFadden, Robert C. Merton, Roger B. Myerson, William D. Nordhaus, Edmund S. Phelps, Paul M. Romer, Alvin E. Roth, Robert J. Shiller, Joseph E. Stiglitz and Richard H. Thaler.
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...as was Raab, Javid, Buckland, Barclay, Hancock, Leadsom, Truss, Coffey, Williamson, Jenrick, Shapps, Sharma, Rees-Mogg, Spencer, Kwarteng, McVey, Dowden, Frost, Zahawi, Eustice, Dorries, Malthouse, Mercer, Mordaunt, Bone, Whately, Badenoch, Keegan, Jenkyns, Prentice, Pincher, Philp, Grayling ... who did I leave out? What a collection of humanity.
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On the sets of adult movies, there used to be a class of employee belonging to the makeup department, called a fluffer.
The job of the fluffer was to ensure that the male star’s member was fully erect before shooting started. It saved time, and ensured that the male performer was good to go as soon as the cameras began to roll. How the fluffer did this was very much up to the conscience of the individual fluffer, but I’m sure you can imagine.
Fluffers are not much used anymore—not in adult films, anyway.
Instead, fluffers have moved from adult entertainment to the world of what you might call ‘newstainment’.
Nigel Farage is a fluffer.
His job is not to tell the truth, but to stroke his viewers’ opinions in such a way that their generally unfocused sense of grievance rears up, turgid and stiff, so that they can wave it about in public as if it were something to be proud of.
Truth ain’t nothing to do with it.
Nigel Farage just wants to get your blood flowing.
And he was very good at it, wasn’t he? Because you’re dancing to his tune right now.
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@vincentblack7467 Are you still list without a passport in Pakistan?
Did you work out which "Indigenous Brit" you are? Iron Age Britons, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans? Maybe I missed you out. Something else?
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He was asked about charges vs. Ghislaine Maxwell for conspiring with sex predator Jeffrey Epstein. Trump said: “I wish her well, frankly.”
He bragged that he received “the highly honored Bay of Pigs award” from Cuban Americans in Florida. There’s no such award.
He retweeted a GOP pol's post suggesting duct-taping Nancy Pelosi’s mouth so “she won’t be able to drink booze on the job as much.”
After a 75-year-old social justice protester in Buffalo, NY, was shoved to the ground by police and suffered a fractured skull, Trump suggested it was a “set-up” by “an antifa provocateur.” Trump tweeted that the activist “fell harder than [he] was pushed.”
A 1973 New York Times story said Trump “graduated first in his class” from Penn’s Wharton School. Nope. It was an early case of media swallowing Trump lies.
He said about Covid in June 2020, “If we stopped testing right now, we'd have very few cases, if any.”
He encouraged police to be more violent. After describing how police put their hand over a suspect’s head to prevent injury as they’re loaded into a police car, Trump said, “You can take the hand away, OK?”
He lied that Obama spied on his campaign.
He said: “We will be ending the AIDS epidemic shortly in America and curing childhood cancer very shortly.”
Trump’s Agriculture Dept. ordered staff to stop referring to "climate change" and call it “weather extremes” instead.
He is selling watches, crypto, and sneakers.
He secretly shipped Covid test equipment to Putin when it was needed in the U.S.
There is credible evidence that Egypt gave Trump's campaign a $10M bribe.
He says he’d withhold aid and let California burn if the governor opposed him politically.
He opened most of Alaska's Tongass National Forest to logging and other development, removing protections for a temperate rainforest. Biden reversed the move.
Trump's coup attempt projected such instability that Gen. Mark Milley assured his Chinese counterpart that the U.S. planned no attack. This infuriated Trump, who suggested Milley deserved execution: “In times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH!”
As he plotted to keep power despite losing in 2020, Trump considered naming conspiracy crackpot Sidney Powell as a special counsel to "investigate" the nonexistent voter fraud he claimed. Powell later pleaded guilty to conspiring to interfere with an election.
Trump’s “God Bless the USA” Bibles were printed in China.
Trump wants to pardon the rioters who beat up police officers at the Capitol.
Trump did nothing but watch for 187 minutes as his followers stormed the Capitol. Why? Because he liked it.
Trump said he'd “withhold aid and let California burn” if the governor didn’t support him politically.
He claimed to have built hundreds of miles of new border wall, but most of it was just repairs to existing sections.
He spread false claims that mail-in voting would lead to massive fraud, even though it’s been used safely for decades.
Trump falsely claimed that the U.S. would lose its energy independence under Biden, even though the U.S. was energy independent before and after his presidency.
He downplayed the importance of wearing masks during the Covid-19 pandemic, leading to unnecessary deaths.
Trump hosted super-spreader events during the height of the Covid-19 pandemic, which led to multiple outbreaks.
He tried to block the publication of a book by his niece, Mary Trump, which described his unfit mental state and corrupt behavior.
Trump pressured the FDA to speed up the approval of a Covid vaccine for political gain ahead of the 2020 election.
He repeatedly lied about voter fraud to undermine confidence in the 2020 election.
He encouraged his followers to storm state capitals and “fight like hell” to overturn the election results.
Trump attempted to overturn the election results by pressuring Georgia officials to “find” votes in his favor.
He used his presidency to enrich himself by directing government business to his hotels and resorts.
Trump’s administration cut taxes for the wealthy while leaving middle-class and lower-income Americans with a growing national debt.
He separated migrant children from their parents as part of a cruel immigration policy and failed to reunite many families.
Trump praised dictators like North Korea's Kim Jong-un and Russia’s Vladimir Putin, while alienating democratic allies.
He pardoned political allies and criminals, including those convicted of corruption and war crimes.
He repeatedly attacked the media, calling them the “enemy of the people” and undermining free speech.
Trump continued to profit from his businesses during his presidency, violating the emoluments clause.
He refused to condemn white supremacist groups like the Proud Boys, telling them instead to “stand back and stand by.”
He tried to use the Department of Justice as his personal legal defense team, undermining the rule of law.
Trump undermined pandemic relief efforts by refusing to sign stimulus bills until they included unrelated demands.
He attacked democratic institutions, including the FBI and CIA, when they didn’t support his narrative.
Trump criticized peaceful protests against police brutality while encouraging violence by his supporters.
He refused to release his tax returns, breaking decades of tradition and transparency.
Trump suggested delaying the 2020 election, which would have been unconstitutional.
He pressured foreign governments, including Ukraine, to investigate his political rivals, leading to his impeachment.
Trump downplayed the threat of Covid-19 despite knowing how dangerous it was, as revealed by journalist Bob Woodward.
He mocked a reporter with a disability during a campaign rally, showing a lack of basic decency.
Trump’s administration failed to address the growing opioid crisis, leading to more preventable deaths.
He repeatedly insulted veterans and military leaders, calling them “losers” and “suckers.”
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Brexit has resulted in: a devalued the £, lack of investment, decrease in GDP, stagnant economy, capital flight, decreased business & consumer confidence, increased bureaucracy / barriers to trade, decreased skilled workers / increase staff shortages, the trade deals are a farce, queues in Dover, decrease in science investment/affected universities, smashed the fishing industry, affected the arts, ongoing Northern Island border problem/Northern Ireland Assembly shut down. What have I left out?
Only the die hard ideologues still believe in Brexit.
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Why vote Labour? Under Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 12 years?
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@georgieboy1958 Rubbish. The supposed three day "Special Military Operation" has failed. Russians are now using T-55 tanks, relics from museums. Russian logistics, morale, tactics, weapons, propaganda, training are a joke, farcial. Ukrainians are doing the fighting, splendidly so. NATO and other countries have helped with intelligence, training, humanitarian aid and weapons.
Wasn't the Kremlin attacked last week by drones?
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When Starmer was photographed drinking beer, the restrictions for the public had been partially lifted, and mixing indoors for work was allowed. Including eating meals at your desk.
He was working.
In addition, the govt had further relaxed restrictions to allow political parties to campaign during the elections. He was in Durham on a campaign visit, and working in a campaign office. Nobody denies this. It was permitted.
The claim he "ate £200 of curry" sounds excessive until you find out the bill was for the entire office, not one man. Even at £15 a head - a pretty modest amount for a pretty standard curry and beer - that's only 13 people.
Police already looked into all this and found no laws were broken, and no case to answer.
A few days ago we were told we should ignore Boris Johnson parties because there's a war, and it's a waste of police time.
There is still a war. Getting police to investigate twice - when the evidence I've shown proves no law broken - is 2x waste of time.
And it hardly needs pointing out that Boris Johnson headed the gov that wrote the rules. It was one party, it was at least 12. Over 50 people have been fined and a further 100 questioned, with more fines expected.
Very different from dinner at work at a time the law allowed it
We all know why they're pushing this story. Sling mud, hope some sticks, and distract from Johnson, Sunak, Hancock mixing with Randox, rapists, coke-heads, tractor wankers, "sexist of the year" awards, and Nadine Dorries being incapable of the most basic of human tasks.
But it's still worth pointing out what utter bollocks the whole thing is, and how a simple look at the legal restrictions at the time of the photo proves nothing illegal was done. It takes 2 minutes.
Every single "journalist" pushing this story must know it to be false.
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@kjd9634
"More police are killed by black ppl in the USA than vice versa." That's BS. You've just made that up. Do a quick internet search and see police kill around 800 people each year, approximately 30% are black, despite blacks being 13% of the population. Typically approximately 50 police are killed in the US each year in total, not by black people.
Re: whites in Africa, have you heard of colonisation, slavery, apartheid, pillaging of natural resources. I can't believe you'd think bringing up Africa helps your argument.
You plainly don't get white privilege. I'll let John Amaechi explain it for you:
“Privilege is a hard concept for people to understand, because normally when we talk of privilege we imagine immediate unearned riches and tangible benefits for anyone who has it. But white privilege and indeed all privilege is actually more about the absence of inconvenience, the absence of an impediment or challenge, and as such when you have it, you really don't notice it, but when it's absent, it affects everything you do.
There are lots of types of privilege out there, the privilege of being born into a wealthy family versus a poor family is kind of obvious, but then there's the privilege of being able-bodied versus having or acquiring a disability that most of us take for granted. I have two very close friends who are wheelchair users and I'll be honest, when I first met them I was completely ignorant about the everyday ways their lives are made harder through no fault of their own. Some of these ways are simply thoughtless, but some of them are just the way we live, just the way we build infrastructure, just the way everything works that just makes their life harder than mine. That's just one of the ways that I am privileged and understanding that, embracing that, doesn't make me a bad person, but ignoring it raises the chance that my friends will be excluded in ways that are not obvious to me and as their friend I can't allow that.
There's a good chance, as a white person reading this, your life is already hard. Every day you have to overcome some difficulty or challenge just to get by, but you can still have white privilege. White privilege doesn't mean you haven't worked hard or you don't deserve the success you've had. It doesn't mean that your life isn't hard or that you've never suffered. It simply means that your skin colour has not been the cause of your hardship or suffering.
There is nothing but a benefit to understanding our own privileges, white and otherwise. It brings us closer to those who are different. It helps us be vigilant about the ways we treat others different than us. It helps us make a society that is fairer and more equal. Having white privilege doesn't make your life easy, but understanding it can help you realise why some people's lives are harder than they should be.”
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@petewood6787 How'd you know? I've had DTaP/IPV/Hib/HepB, MenB, Rotavirus, Pneumococcal conjugate, MMR, MenACWY, Hepatitis A & B, Tuberculosis, Japanese encephalitis, rabies, typhoid and Yellow fever.
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@petewood6787 DTaP/IPV/Hib/HepB, MenB, Rotavirus, Pneumococcal conjugate, MMR, MenACWY, Hepatitis A & B, Tuberculosis, Japanese encephalitis, rabies, typhoid, Yellow fever. How'd you know?
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@tomround8271 The excess mortality data points to three key issues. The first is that the NHS is overloaded, quality of care is suffering, staff are burnt-out and leaving their positions, and this is leading to medical care being delayed for acute conditions (heart attacks and strokes) but also chronic ones, where every week and month matters, such as cancer treatment and surgeries. Too many ambulances are unable to offload.
Unfortunately, certain politicians have turned to blaming NHS staff for being lazy and only doing virtual appointments, or being off work with illness. What’s clear is that we need real investment in the NHS, in its people, facilities and operations, so that it is an attractive place to work that can provide the volume and quality of care needed.
Second, Office for National Statistics data has shown that mortality jumped on days with extreme heat. We know extreme weather events are becoming more common, and that higher temperatures can lead to strokes, heart attacks and blood clotting in elderly and vulnerable groups. This problem is not going away as climate experts warn that what we see as unusually hot temperatures will become the norm over the next 50 years.
But most importantly: Covid-19 is still circulating and killing people, especially those in elderly groups and those who are unvaccinated. While it has dropped from being the leading cause of death, it is still one of the top 10 causes of death in the population, and even with a much-reduced fatality rate due to vaccination and prior infection, it is contributing to that 10-13% jump in summer excess mortality. In fact, as these figures show from the ONS, many other major causes of death are slightly below the five-year average.
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@ktool4855 It’s true some on the left back Brexit “Lexit”, for example P&O’s union, RMT backed Brexit and therefore wanted EU workers’ protections removed from their membership. However the majority of people who voted Brexit were right wing and did so for nationalist, nativist, xenophobic and nostalgic reasons.
The current Tory government is the “Vote Leave” government, the entire Cabinet are Brexiteers and/or Johnson loyalists, promoted because of their ties to Johnson rather than through ability. Johnson purged the moderate Tories from the party.
What “semi socialist economic policies” are you referring to? We have some of the lowest corporation tax in the Western world. Capital gains tax has not risen and top bracket for income tax unchanged. I assume you’re referring to the furlough scheme. What were the alternatives in a pandemic to prevent mass unemployment?
As for what Labour supports that the Tories don’t – there are so many. In October the Tories blocked Labour's proposed bill to prevent employers from using fire and rehire tactics to bully workers into lower paid jobs. This would have saved the jobs of P&O staff. How about the Tories attempt to control mass media by defunding the BBC and privatising Channel 4? Labour would not be underfunding the NHS and education, hoping both fail so the private sector can fill the void.
What crackdown of “freedom of speech”? The Labour party voted against the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill, which aims to make protests illegal. I suspect that’s not what you’re referring to.
It's a pity London can’t be a city state like Monaco or the Vatican. London would be run by Labour and still be in the EU. I wonder how Little Englanders would cope without the wealth and productivity London generates.
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@JohnJones-wo1bc Farage has stood for election to the House of Commons seven times, in five general elections and two by-elections, but has not won any of those elections.
Farage's great project - what he claimed to have dedicated his life to - Brexit, is an utter failure, by Farage's own admission. Brexit is the worst geopolitical decision this century, apart from Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Farage is considered by the majority of the country as a charlatan, an elite (private school educated, hedge fund manager) pretending to be an outsider, a populist opportunist. Farage is divisive and hasn't achieved a single positive thing in public life.
As for Thatcher, her neoliberal policies have been long discredited, along with the right to buy scheme (severely decreased social housing stock), privatisation (how are the water and rail companies doing?) etc.
So don't give me "facile".
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@xenomorph6961 What’s the source of your allegation her payslip found on her does not match her job description for Thomson Reuters Foundation? I can’t find it. Why did you mention the BBC which she’d stopped working for six years before her arrest and detention? It has never been clear what the Iranians charged her with – again what is your source claiming the charge is related to her pay discrepancy? Where do you get your "facts" from? To me it looks like your speculating – “I think you will soon be seeing a deeper side to this story than has so far been reported” – to justify your premise that Zaghari-Ratcliffe is at fault for her ordeal.
Why should she be grateful to those her bailed her out? Zaghari-Ratcliffe was repeatedly told her arrest was linked to the historic £400 million debt. Javad Zarif, the then Iranian foreign minister, cited it in an interview at the UN General Assembly in 2019. Despite this, three Tory PMs and four foreign secretaries refused to acknowledge the link. In March 2021, then acting leader of the House, said, “It would be quite wrong to link payments of any money to the release of somebody who is improperly detained”. It wasn’t until Liz Truss, the current foreign secretary, acknowledge the debt claims as legitimate at the end of 2021, that progress was made to release Zaghari-Ratcliffe and Ashoori. Now the Tory government are suddenly celebrating the fact they paid the debt to get Zaghari-Ratcliffe and people like yourself are angry she isn’t more grateful to the people who “bailed her out”. Bear in mind at times Zaghari-Ratcliffe’s imprisonment met the UN criteria for torture, and of course her lack of freedom, not seeing family, young daughter, not knowing how long the ordeal could last etc. Do you have the emotional intelligence to understand what that ordeal would have been like and why she wouldn't be gushing with thanks to the government?
Imagine this: you need an operation to save your leg, but the surgeon decides not to do it even though they have the means and the responsibility. You lose your leg and six years later the surgeon apologies and provides a prosthetic. Would you be grateful?
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@xenomorph6961 This is getting tiresome. As you’re unwilling or unable to provide evidence justifying why the Iranians arrested Zaghari-Ratcliffe, you’re now saying she lacked “common sense” or “may have been naive”. However, the Foreign Office changed their advice on travel to Iran after Zaghari-Ratcliffe was arrested (taken hostage), so it wasn’t “common sense” was it? 99+% of dual national Iranians visit Iran without being arrested, it was perfectly reasonable to Zaghari-Ratcliffe not expect to be arrested. Your original comment was, “I wouldn't be stupid enough to go to that country in the first place.” You have been unable to argue why she was “stupid” to visit the country of her birth and take her young daughter to meet her grandparents.
Zaghari-Ratcliffe was grateful to lots of people and agencies – did you actually watch the interview? She refused to be grateful to the government for completely understandable reasons. It is reasonable for her to believe if the UK government had paid the debt earlier she would have be released earlier. If the UK had paid the debt 40+ years ago, she may not have been arrested in the first place. How did she “act like a spoilt child who thinks the world should revolve around her”? She spoke calmly and stoically. She said her freedom would never be total until other detainees, such as Morad Tahbaz, were also released, hardly the sort of person who “thinks the world should revolve around them”.
Your comments on Hunt are cynical and mere speculation. Hunt is too moderate for the current Tory party to be a leader. He’s not even in the Cabinet.
The most revealing and honest of your comments is: “I feel she SHOULD be grateful that she has a home here and the opportunity of a good life far exceeding that of those of her countrymen and women she has left behind.” This explains the backlash against Zaghari-Ratcliffe, which feeds into that quintessential British demand: that immigrants are welcome, sometimes, provided they’re permanently grateful and deferential and shut the fck up. I did wonder why you’d spend so much time writing these comments about her, what triggered your interest, thank you for finally revealing it. It is this sort of opinions Marina Hyde and others called out. This is the culture war, attacks on immigrants, people of colour and misogyny.
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@xenomorph6961 “When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.” Maya Angelou.
That was a pathetic attempt at gaslighting when you called me a racist. Desperate.
You’re the one looking for problems where none exist. All my friends when they heard about Zaghari-Ratcliffe being released expressed views along the lines of what positive news it was, her horrific ordeal is finally over and her husband and daughter must be so relieved. That’s the humane and emotionally intelligent reaction to such news. I should’ve anticipated the backlash, given the culture war raging in this country.
That’s where people like you step in, with your “I feel she SHOULD be grateful that she has a home here and the opportunity of a good life far exceeding that of those of her countrymen and women she has left behind.” That is a xenophobic and ignorant view. Of course, not everyone in Britain holds those xenophobic views. They are estimated at approximately 30%. The number is decreasing as older racists are dying off. Young people do not hold those views. You’re in the minority. Thankfully.
The culture war is being waged by the government and their media mogul friends. They aim to divide and distract the masses from their incompetence and corruption, to maintain the status quo and hold onto power.
So while you’re angry at Zaghari-Ratcliffe for not being grateful enough when she was finally released, what have you not noticed?
And, just to be clear, racism, xenophobia and authoritarianism are repugnant to a decent society.
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"Labour did nothing at all to help ordinary people" Sigh...under Blair and Brown:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and yes the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation of Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland – Good Friday Agreement
– a Britain in Europe’s mainstream not in Europe’s slipstream
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits.
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Nothing? Really?
Under Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 13 years?
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@pessi6185 You’re so predictable, listing off one by one, all the long discredited conspiracy theories relating to Ukraine: CIA coup, puppet regime, ethnic Russians rising up, neo Nazis, Nord Stream, bio chemical labs etc. It’d be hilarious if wasn’t so pitiful sad. You’re a great example of how successful Russian disinformation is. You think you’re intelligent, yet you’ve been fooled by some of the most crude, unsophisticated, easily discredited propaganda in human history. I used to wonder how the FSB could think their pathetic excrement could be believed. Well you’re proof it can. Can I sell you a used bridge or second hand car? A 12 year old could see through the Kremlin’s fake news.
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@pessi6185 Colonel Douglas MacGregor, on Fox News three days after the Russian invasion. "The battle in eastern Ukraine is really almost over," and predicted "If [Ukraine] don't surrender in the next 24 hours, I suspect Russia will ultimately annihilate them."
Again on Fox News, "The first five days Russian forces I think frankly were too gentle. They've now corrected that. So, I would say another 10 days this should be completely over... I think the most heroic thing he could do right now is come to terms with reality. Neutralize Ukraine."
Again on Fox News in mArch 2022, Macgregor said a ceasefire was close as Ukrainian forces had been "grounded to bits. There's no question about that despite what we report on our mainstream media."
He said Putin had taken great care with civilians and this was delaying his victory.
July 2022: "The war, with the exception of Kharkiv and Odessa, as far as the Russians are concerned is largely over. There is no intention to do anything else because the Russians don’t have a very large army... This nonsense that Putin wants to conquer all of Ukraine was never true. All he ever did in the Minsk agreement was ask that Russian speakers, Russian citizens inside Ukraine be treated equally before the law. That they not be penalized for being Russians."
In September 2022 "the Ukrainian army is bled white, tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops have been killed or wounded, Ukraine is really on the ropes".
LMAO no wonder you think Russia is winning the war 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@bryanice3313 When you say the UK was “97% British”, who exactly do you mean history buff? The stone age Britons, Romans (including from across the Roman Empire natives of Britannia, continental Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa), Anglo-Saxons, Franks, Jutes, Vikings, Celts, Normans, Flemings, Roma, Huguenots, Indians (working for the East India Company), Irish, Jews, people from the various colonies. People in the UK have neanderthal genes in their DNA – are they also British?
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@elgun6125 I can't keep track of all the Tory scandals, from the lockdown partying, PPE corruption, Johnson's wallpaper, care home deaths, Owen Patterson, Patel's bullying, Sunak's Green card / wife's taxes & companies, Greensil, John Dyson favours, Hancock & his aide, Johnson's rescue dogs, "let the bodies pile high" 175000+ deaths... what have I forgotten. And yet you're OBSESSED with Starmer's work lunch. Tories consider people like you "useful idiots." Do you realise they actually think they're genetically superior to people like you. In your specific case, they're probably correct.
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@rayvinloony2322 What sort of ghoul thinks taking down the statue of a man whose fortune was amassed by the blood money of slavery, a man who transported over 84,000 African men, women and children to the Caribbean and the rest of the Americas, of whom as many as 19 000 may have died on the journey is a sign of weakness? What does that say about you as a human being?
Do you realise the Tories engage in their culture war - flags, statues, kneeling, monarchy, universities, Rwanda, BBC / Channel 4 etc - to divide and distract the population from all their incompetence, scandals, corruption and sleaze in order to maintain the status quo and hold onto power? Do you appreciate the fact the Tories think they are your genetic superior and consider you a "useful idiot?"
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The sheer volume of these comments is just staggering, filled with tired, sordid stereotypes, deeply derogatory language, and a level of vitriol that makes you wonder what century we’re living in. This isn’t about political discourse or debate; it’s about tearing down a woman who doesn’t fit some narrow, outdated idea of how women should behave, look, or where they should come from.
It’s truly exhausting, this constant barrage of misogyny disguised as “critique,” and it’s a stark reminder that, despite the progress we’ve made, there are still those who see women - especially working-class women - as nothing more than targets for their own insecurities and frustrations.
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@krishnan-resurrection714 Who do you mean exactly? Iron Age Britons, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans?
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Who are the "indigenous people of our country"? There have been Iron Age Britons, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans. They were all immigrants. Humans move about. Always have, always will.
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@mal35m Two months ago Russian intelligence would have advised Putin: NATO is weak and has not real interest in getting involved, Biden has just had a humiliating withdrawal from Afghanistan (which was agreed by Trump BTW), Biden is running an isolationist government, the US doesn’t want to be a world policeman, the European Union is divided, Germany was too dependent on Russian gas and never going to spend money on its military, according to opinion polls Zelenskyy was unpopular in Ukraine and the Ukrainian people wanted to get rid of him. Putin would have also been told Russia has incredible cyber capacity, information warfare, special forces units, and that China would bail him out (after the Winter Olympics), all during a time of rising energy prices (Russia would not have expected such harsh sanctions given Russia exports 1 billion Euros per day).
Putin expected Trump to pull the US out of NATO in his second term, which would have dramatically changed the equation in Ukraine. Fortunately, Trump lost, the US is still in NATO, and NATO has armed and trained Ukrainians, assisting them to defend against Putin's aggression. And, the US and EU have imposed wide ranging sanctions on Russia, crippling their economy, making it nigh on impossible for them to wage such an expensive war for the much longer (depending on Chinese assistance).
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Russia thoughts they'd win a few days. Instead they've had strategic defeats at Kyiv, Kharkiv, Sumy, and Chernihiv, Ukrainian breakthroughs at Izium and Kupyansk, the Black Sea Flee debacle, liberation of Kherson, 3,000+ Russian tanks destroyed, dozen Russian generals killed, oil refineries burning across Russia, Ukraine is still independent in 2024 and fighting to survive and liberate 20% of its land.
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@jesperthorsson3586 You're an ignoramus. Here's some perspective for you - this is refugees not "immigrants", I know GB News viewers are obsessed by dingys.
In 2021, total international refugees hosted:
Turkey — 3,696,831
Jordan — 3,027,729
Uganda — 1,475,311
Pakistan — 1,438,523
Lebanon — 1,338,197
Germany — 1,235,160
Sudan — 1,068,339
Bangladesh — 889,775
Iran — 800,025
Ethiopia — 782,896
The UK was 32nd with 135,912.
Stop stressing out. Hope this makes you sleep better and brings your blood pressure down.
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@jamesrowbotham9189 Evidently not. Are Liz Truss, Jonathan Gullis, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Michael Fabricant, Philip Davies, Grant Shapps, Steve Baker, Penny Mordaunt, Kemi Badenoch, Mark Francois, Alex Chalk, Bim Afolami, Damian Green, Greg Hands, Johnny Mercer conservatives?
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The Tories said they were going to control the national debt. It's gone up every year they've been in office.
The Tories said Brexit would make us richer. It's made us far poorer.
The Tories said they would reduce inequality. Our inequality is one of the worst in the OECD
The Tories said they'd fix the NHS. NHS waiting list is the highest on record, and was also the highest on record before Covid.
The Tories said they'd reduce council tax. The amount you pay has gone up every year.
The Tories said they'd be a clean, transparent govt. Corruption has risen hugely, and that's before even factoring in the 20% of Covid contracts that raised a "red flag" for corruption by international standards.
The Tories said they'd solve housing problems. Housing prices have ballooned and the crisis gets worse every year.
The Tories said they'd increase education funding. Education funding has plummeted.
The Tories said they'd resolve social problems. Racial and other hate crimes have bloomed.
Tories said they'd improve our productivity. Productivity has dropped below the levels under Labour.
Tories said they'd be strong on law and order. They cut over 20,000 police and almost 1/4 of prison and probation staff.
Tories said they'd solve migration. They drove out almost 100,000 EU-born NHS staff, immigration from the rest of the world increased, and now they're arguing about how to reverse it all.
Tories said they'd control inflation. Right...
Tories promised they'd reduce taxes. The UK's tax burden is the highest for 70 years.
The Tories promised sound government and good leadership. Ahem...
Tories promised high wages. Wage growth since 2015 Germany: 40% France: 39% UK: 9% They've delivered 1/4 the wage performance of our economic rivals.
But they cut tax for the rich, and slashed corporation tax to one of the lowest in the OECD. They're looking after the already-wealthy, but failing in every other way. So unless you own a corporation or are one of the richest 5% of Britons, you're very, very wrong to vote Tory.
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When Starmer was photographed drinking beer, the restrictions for the public had been partially lifted, and mixing indoors for work was allowed. Including eating meals at your desk.
He was working.
In addition, the govt had further relaxed restrictions to allow political parties to campaign during the elections. He was in Durham on a campaign visit, and working in a campaign office. Nobody denies this. It was permitted.
The claim he "ate £200 of curry" sounds excessive until you find out the bill was for the entire office, not one man. Even at £15 a head - a pretty modest amount for a pretty standard curry and beer - that's only 13 people.
Police already looked into all this and found no laws were broken, and no case to answer.
A few days ago we were told we should ignore Boris Johnson parties because there's a war, and it's a waste of police time.
There is still a war. Getting police to investigate twice - when the evidence I've shown proves no law broken - is 2x waste of time.
And it hardly needs pointing out that Boris Johnson headed the gov that wrote the rules. It was one party, it was at least 12. Over 50 people have been fined and a further 100 questioned, with more fines expected.
Very different from dinner at work at a time the law allowed it
We all know why they're pushing this story. Sling mud, hope some sticks, and distract from Johnson, Sunak, Hancock mixing with Randox, rapists, coke-heads, tractor wankers, "sexist of the year" awards, and Nadine Dorries being incapable of the most basic of human tasks.
But it's still worth pointing out what utter bollocks the whole thing is, and how a simple look at the legal restrictions at the time of the photo proves nothing illegal was done. It takes 2 minutes.
Every single "journalist" pushing this story must know it to be false.
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When Starmer was photographed drinking beer, the restrictions for the public had been partially lifted, and mixing indoors for work was allowed. Including eating meals at your desk.
He was working.
In addition, the govt had further relaxed restrictions to allow political parties to campaign during the elections. He was in Durham on a campaign visit, and working in a campaign office. Nobody denies this. It was permitted.
The claim he "ate £200 of curry" sounds excessive until you find out the bill was for the entire office, not one man. Even at £15 a head - a pretty modest amount for a pretty standard curry and beer - that's only 13 people.
Police already looked into all this and found no laws were broken, and no case to answer.
A few days ago we were told we should ignore Boris Johnson parties because there's a war, and it's a waste of police time.
There is still a war. Getting police to investigate twice - when the evidence I've shown proves no law broken - is 2x waste of time.
And it hardly needs pointing out that Boris Johnson headed the gov that wrote the rules. It was one party, it was at least 12. Over 50 people have been fined and a further 100 questioned, with more fines expected.
Very different from dinner at work at a time the law allowed it
We all know why they're pushing this story. Sling mud, hope some sticks, and distract from Johnson, Sunak, Hancock mixing with Randox, rapists, coke-heads, tractor wankers, "sexist of the year" awards, and Nadine Dorries being incapable of the most basic of human tasks.
But it's still worth pointing out what utter bollocks the whole thing is, and how a simple look at the legal restrictions at the time of the photo proves nothing illegal was done. It takes 2 minutes.
Every single "journalist" pushing this story must know it to be false.
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Migrant crisis!? FFS Brexit, Johnson, Farage, Truss, Sunak, Rees-Mogg, Francois, NI Protocol, Frost, Raab, 20 mile queues in Dover, inflation, energy prices, Partygate, empty shlves etc these are the issues and people making the UK a global laughing stock.
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@uingaeoc3905 Under Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 13 years?
Why aren't you a Labour supporter?
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@uingaeoc3905 Under Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 13 years?
Why aren't you a Labour supporter?
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Trump attempted to sabotage the U.S. Postal Service ahead of the 2020 election to disrupt mail-in voting.
He refused to support measures to protect against Russian interference in U.S. elections.
Trump tried to pressure governors to reopen their states during the Covid-19 pandemic against public health advice.
He failed to address the rising threat of domestic terrorism, including from right-wing extremists.
Trump repeatedly violated the Hatch Act by using government resources for political purposes.
He ignored intelligence reports about Russian bounties on U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan.
Trump’s administration rolled back environmental protections, contributing to climate change and pollution.
He falsely claimed that U.S. troops voted overwhelmingly for him, when military ballots showed otherwise.
Trump pushed baseless conspiracy theories about the 2020 election, including claims of rigged voting machines.
He endorsed violence against protesters, saying “when the looting starts, the shooting starts.”
Trump withdrew from the World Health Organization during a global pandemic, weakening international cooperation.
He promoted unproven Covid-19 treatments like hydroxychloroquine, which endangered public health.
Trump repeatedly lied about his administration’s accomplishments, including jobs created and trade deals made.
He defunded essential public services like the CDC during a public health crisis.
Trump ordered the violent removal of peaceful protesters from Lafayette Square so he could stage a photo-op with a Bible.
He claimed without evidence that wind turbines cause cancer, undermining clean energy efforts.
Trump’s administration ignored early warnings about the Covid-19 pandemic, delaying critical responses.
He sought to criminalize peaceful protests while defending violent actions by his supporters.
Trump tried to politicize the U.S. military by using them to suppress protests against racial injustice.
He insulted John McCain, a decorated war hero, saying he prefers “people who weren’t captured.”
Trump’s handling of natural disasters like Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico was widely criticized for incompetence.
He downplayed the severity of climate change, reversing policies aimed at reducing carbon emissions.
Trump repeatedly undermined the credibility of U.S. elections, a cornerstone of democracy.
He called for imprisoning political rivals, a hallmark of authoritarian regimes.
Trump’s administration failed to protect whistleblowers and actively retaliated against them.
He used his platform to promote dangerous conspiracy theories like QAnon, endangering public safety.
Trump’s trade wars, particularly with China, hurt American farmers and manufacturers.
He falsely claimed that the 2020 election was stolen from him, inciting violence and division.
Trump refused to fully divest from his business interests, leading to conflicts of interest throughout his presidency.
His administration’s family separation policy left lasting trauma on thousands of children.
Trump’s reckless foreign policy decisions alienated key allies and damaged the U.S.'s reputation globally.
He attempted to overturn the results of a free and fair election, threatening the future of American democracy.
He bragged that he received “the highly honored Bay of Pigs award” from Cuban Americans in Florida. There’s no such award.
He retweeted a GOP politician's post suggesting duct-taping Nancy Pelosi’s mouth so “she won’t be able to drink booze on the job as much.”
After a 75-year-old social justice protester in Buffalo, NY, was shoved to the ground by police and suffered a fractured skull, Trump suggested it was a “set-up” by “an antifa provocateur.” Trump tweeted that the activist “fell harder than [he] was pushed.”
A 1973 New York Times story said Trump “graduated first in his class” from Penn’s Wharton School. This was false and an early example of media swallowing Trump lies.
He said about Covid in June 2020, “If we stopped testing right now, we'd have very few cases, if any.”
He encouraged police to be more violent, saying: “You can take the hand away, OK?” when discussing how suspects are loaded into police cars.
He lied that Obama spied on his campaign.
He said: “We will be ending the AIDS epidemic shortly in America and curing childhood cancer very shortly.”
Trump’s Agriculture Department ordered staff to stop referring to "climate change" and call it “weather extremes” instead.
In unprecedented behavior for a presidential hopeful, he is selling watches, crypto, and sneakers.
He secretly shipped Covid test equipment to Putin when it was needed in the U.S.
There is credible evidence that Egypt gave Trump's campaign a $10 million bribe.
He opened most of Alaska's Tongass National Forest to logging and other development, removing protections for a temperate rainforest. Biden reversed the move.
Trump's coup attempt projected such instability that Gen. Mark Milley assured his Chinese counterpart that the U.S. planned no attack. This infuriated Trump, who suggested Milley deserved execution, saying, “In times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH!”
As he plotted to keep power despite losing in 2020, Trump considered naming conspiracy theorist Sidney Powell as a special counsel to "investigate" the nonexistent voter fraud he claimed. Powell later pleaded guilty to conspiring to interfere with an election.
Trump’s “God Bless the USA” Bibles were printed in China.
Trump wants to pardon the rioters who beat up police officers at the Capitol.
Trump did nothing but watch for 187 minutes as his followers stormed the Capitol. Why? Because he liked it.
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Toxic masculinity = Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump, Viktor Orbán, Narendra Modi, Jair Bolsonaro, Mohammed bin Salman, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Benjamin Netanyahu, Kim Jong-un, Boris Johnson.
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@fabiennemitchell2371 No. They're both incredibly biased. Wooton is not a real journalist, he's a culture warrior, a provocateur.
When Starmer was photographed drinking beer, the restrictions for the public had been partially lifted, and mixing indoors for work was allowed. Including eating meals at your desk.
He was working.
In addition, the govt had further relaxed restrictions to allow political parties to campaign during the local elections. He was in Durham on a campaign visit, and working in a campaign office. Nobody denies this. It was permitted.
The claim he "ate £200 of curry" sounds excessive until you find out the bill was for the entire office, not one man. Even at £15 a head - a pretty modest amount for a pretty standard curry and beer - that's only 13 people. £200 is nothing.
Police already looked into all this and found no laws were broken, and no case to answer.
A few days ago we were told we should ignore Boris Johnson parties because there's a war, and it's a waste of police time.
There is still a war. Getting police to investigate twice - when the evidence I've shown proves no law broken - is 2x waste of time.
And it hardly needs pointing out that Boris Johnson headed the gov that wrote the rules. It was one party, it was at least 12. Over 50 people have been fined and a further 100 questioned, with more fines expected.
Very different from dinner at work at a time the law allowed it. They continued working after the meal - are they not allowed to eat at work?
We all know why they're pushing this story. Sling mud, hope some sticks, and distract from Johnson, Sunak, Patel, Javid, Hancock mixing with Randox, rapists, coke-heads, tractor wankers, "sexist of the year" awards, and Nadine Dorries being incapable of the most basic of human tasks.
But it's still worth pointing out what utter bollocks the whole thing is, and how a simple look at the legal restrictions at the time of the photo proves nothing illegal was done. It takes 2 minutes.
Every single "journalist" pushing this story must know it to be false.
Out of curiosity, what other polical "scandals" are you interested in?
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@Mary-lx3zs Who do you mean exactly? Iron Age Britons, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans?
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@MrStraightGangsta Who were they exactly? Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans? Someone else?
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All the Gbeebies viewers who claim Labour are worse than the Tories: would they destroy the NHS, double national debt, destroy our trade, bankrupt councils, corrupt our politics, ruin our economy, poison our environment, abandon our young, cast aside the vulnerable, divide our society, and kill 300,000 of our citizens?
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@MebXVII Good for you. Capitalism was great for baby boomers like you – cheap housing, full employment, free education, final salary pensions etc – not so good for everyone else.
Late stage capitalism is characterised by greed, corruption and a focus on profits over people. The problems with late stage capitalism are numerous, but some of the most significant include inequality, environmental destruction, and a lack of democracy, freedom and justice.
The wealth gap is widening, and the planet is being pushed to the brink of destruction. The most vulnerable are suffering the most, while those in power continue to line their pockets. Late stage capitalism is not working for anyone except the very wealthy.
Little wonder you worship Trump the demagogue.
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@Swansong321 From GOV.Uk:
"Grant rates vary considerably by nationality as the protection requirements of specific nationalities or individuals vary. Of those nationalities that commonly claim asylum in the UK, Libyans (98%) and Syrians (96%) typically have high grant rates at initial decision, while nationals of India (3%), China (19%) and Bangladesh (16%) typically have low grant rates.
Only six nationalities, in the top ten, had a grant rate at initial decision of more than 50%, that is applicants were more likely than not to be granted protection. These six nationalities – Iran, Afghanistan, Eritrea, Vietnam, Sudan and Syria - together accounted for more than one third (36%) of asylum applications."
"Some initial decisions (mainly, but not entirely, refusals) will go on to be appealed. There were 3,663 appeals lodged on initial decisions in the year ending March 2021, of the appeals resolved over the period, 47% were allowed (meaning the applicant successfully overturned the initial decision)."
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@jemmajames6719 The people arriving in dinghies are not “illegal”. People have the right to apply for asylum in any country that has signed the 1951 Refugee Convention. The people are mostly coming from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, countries in turmoil following Western military intervention. Other people are coming from the Sahara and Sahel regions, where a myriad of problems, including European colonialism, has resulted in political unrest and violence. People aren’t coming to the UK for the benefits and pensions, which are some of the worst in Europe.
The UK takes far fewer refugees than other countries, including other countries in Europe. Germany and France take far more than the UK. Look up the figures.
You assume refugees "ruin a country". How so? Apart from the various cultural benefits (food, art, languages) of people from different countries, there is a well documented financial benefits: refugees contribute through tax, tend to use fewer health services compared to others and will work in jobs British people refuse to work. Have you not noticed the staff shortages throughout the country at the moment - maybe you're the one who doesn't live here.
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There have been Iron Age Britons, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans. They were all immigrants. Humans move about. Always have, always will.
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@pmarsh3700 For a most recent and nuanced view of the fiscal cost of immigration, read “The Fiscal Impact of Immigration in the UK”, from the Migration Observation at the University of Oxford dated 30/03/2022. There’s no evidence “Migrants attract low wages thus producing a lower standard of living”. Local services prioritise Adult Social Care, ie providing care, equipment and adaptations to the predominately aged white population, an aged population which is increasing. The UK – not counting small countries like Monaco, Malta, San Marino, Gibraltar etc, is behind the Netherlands and Belgium in population density, and only just above Germany & Italy. The UK’s current population growth is 0.53% per year. Given the bulge in the age pyramid, the UK’s population will decrease when the baby boomers start dying off in the decade. The UK provides less than a third of the aid Germany provides and less than 8% of what the US provides. How do you propose filling the various staff vacancies across multiple sectors in the country?
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Under Blair and Brown:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and yes the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation of Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland – Good Friday Agreement
– a Britain in Europe’s mainstream not in Europe’s slipstream
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 14 years?
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@jesperthorsson3586 Who are the "indigenous peoples" of this island? The stone age Britons, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans?
Those crimes you mentioned have been committed in the country for millennia. The Home Office report in 2020 showed the majority of groomers are white males under 30.
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@MaryBrownIsTheBlairWitch Who do you mean exactly? Iron Age Britons, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans?
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Between 1997 and 2010 Labour was continuously in government. Here are Labour’s top 50 achievements during those years.
Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.
Low mortgage rates.
Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
Employment is at its highest level ever.
Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
85,000 more nurses.
32,000 more doctors.
Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
Restored city-wide government to London.
Record number of students in higher education.
Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
£200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
Banned fox hunting.
Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
Free TV licences for over-75s.
Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
Free eye test for over 60s.
More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
Free entry to national museums and galleries.
Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.
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Under Blair and Brown:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and yes the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation of Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland – Good Friday Agreement
– a Britain in Europe’s mainstream not in Europe’s slipstream
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 14 years?
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@ericboxer3053 Okay, how about: ugly nationalism, disregard for human rights (want to rip up Human Rights Act), disrespect towards intellectuals & the arts, obsession with crime & punishment (Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill, crackdown on protests), identification of enemies/scape-goats, rampant sexism, controlled mass media (defunding BBC & privatisation of Channel 4), obsession with national security, power of corporations protected, power of workers suppressed, rampant cronyism and corruption, voter suppression (voter ID). What did I miss?
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So, Mr. Brand gets exposed in a documentary, detailing a slew of alleged sexual assault accusations, backed by meticulous and damning research. And what's the public's first bloody response? "Why didn't they go to the police?" WTF? Every goddamn time a big name gets their dirty laundry aired, out pop these w⚓ with their dim-witted, victim-blaming BS. Every. Single. Time.
How hard is it to understand? With the sheer weight of evidence, the gut-wrenching testimonies, and the sheer audacity of the accusations, you'd think people might pause and reflect. But no. The AV Crowd, Conspiracy Theorists, Right Wing Bobbleheads and Truther crotchgoblins are tripping over themselves, clamouring to defend Brand, spouting their utterly moronic drivel, and doubting the women brave enough to step forward. Utter effing 🔔ends.
Every "Why didn't they report it?" is another slap in the face to survivors everywhere, reinforcing a culture where victims are scrutinised, doubted, and blamed. It's like telling someone their house is on fire and then asking them why they didn't buy better smoke alarms. Twisted logic at its finest.
How about, for once, we focus on the real issue: the alleged predatory antics of Mr. Brand and the system that props up people like him? But no, apparently that's too much to ask in this godforsaken madhouse we call society.
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@user-jz2jo3ri2t What's your point? They were discussed as a humanitarian disaster at the time. As was Syria, Yemen, Palestine, Ethiopia, Myanmar, Colombia, Somalia, Georgia, Chechnya, Central African Republic, Sudan, Crimea etc.
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@BigBirdCEO Do you know the difference between “illegal immigrants”, asylum seekers and refugees? Green energy is an “invest to save” initiative. Renewable energy is not just good for the planet it will save people money. Are you a climate change denier? Law and order was far better under the Labour government of Brown and Blair. Law and order stats have plummeted under the Tories – no surprise given austerity underfunded all aspects of the criminal justice system – police, legal aid, courts, prisons, probations, to say nothing of education, community centres, social services etc. Do you think the Tories are the party of “law and order”? The party of corruption, cronyism, law breaking (including international law), partgate, Russian donors etc.
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General John Kelly, former White House chief of staff, called Trump “the most flawed person I have ever met in my life,” who “has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”
Mark Esper, former secretary of defense, said Trump is a “threat to democracy.”
John Bolton, former national security adviser, believes Trump is “unfit to be president.”
General Mark Milley, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, described Trump as “a fascist to the core.”
Remember, these people worked closely with Trump.
Now let’s move on to alarming things that Trump himself has said:
“I need the kind of generals that Hitler had … People who were totally loyal to him, that follow orders.”
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You lot aren't advocating for a meritocracy, you're advocating for maintaining the status quo. You're advocating for keeping power in the hands of old, rich, white men. You're advocating for the Establishment and for the political party of the Establishment, the Conservatives.
You haven't been able to throw off your serf mentality after centuries of the class system.
Just because the likes of Johnson, Farage, Reece-Mogg, Cummings etc went to private school, Oxbridge, worked in the City, people of the Establishment, doesn't make them your bettors. They're not Born to Rule (just because they think they are).
They've distracted you with these culture wars. You should be more outraged at the corruption of the Establishment.
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According to the Gini coefficient, the UK is the most unequal country in Europe apart from Bulgaria.
It’s good you believe in meritocracy as an ideal. Do you support unions and labour laws? Do you support progressive taxation? Free education?
Maybe you’re not “outraged”, but have you read the other comments in this thread and on the page? Why do you think so many GB News viewers are interested in meritocracy after the role employment of an equality expert? Occam's razor – they are nativists / white supremacist reactionaries (not saying you are anyone of these, I suggest the majority of commentors on this page are).
To claim to believe in a meritocracy and to be outraged by equality expert is typical English hypocrisy. Have you read Orwell’s essay “The Lion and the Unicorn” (1941)? It’s suggested that hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue, ie the hypocrite has to pretend to be good. The English are, historically, hypocritical people, the people of double standards. The Imperial power which controlled a quarter of the globe, but pretended it didn’t. That speaks the language of liberty and freedom, while having oppressed whole peoples. That exploits others and has a rigid, stratified class structure, that keeps people in slums. And yet talks about fair play and decency as though that was the distinctive characteristic of British public life. Orwell talks about the double standards of British public life – it dresses up class hierarchy in the language of fair play, it dresses up Empire in the language of freedom. This hypocrisy is projected overseas and it’s projected internally, the idea that we are fair, when all you have to do is to look at the structures, the hierarchies, the exclusions, the snobberies of English life to know that we’re not.
I’m not sure how one defines MSM, but GB News is Establishment but pretends it is for the “every man” as you say. The company’s backers, Sir Paul Marshall, the hedge fund tycoon, and Legatum, the Dubai-based investment vehicle of New Zealand billionaire Christopher Chandler, are not “every men”. Why do you think they are happy to continue funding this channel for a loss?
Why do you think “those on the right can be educated”? The left is generally associated with science and academia, where the consensus changes based on evidence not opinions. The right, who believe the institutions of science, journalism, academia and media are “the four pillars of deceit” and cannot be trusted, resulting in an epistemic crisis.
In 2019 the Tories won with a simple three slogan, a lie, convincing an electorate bored of Brexit negotiations and wanting it all over with, even though they (the Tories) knew they did not have an oven-ready deal and aware of the damage it would do to the country.
I forgot to mention the House of Lords, especially hereditary Peers. The monarchy itself is the ultimate example of the lack of a meritocracy.
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According to the Gini coefficient, the UK is the most unequal country in Europe apart from Bulgaria.
It’s good you believe in meritocracy as an ideal. Do you support unions and labour laws? Do you support progressive taxation? Free education?
Maybe you’re not “outraged”, but have you read the other comments in this thread and on the page? Why do you think so many GB News viewers are interested in meritocracy after the role employment of an equality expert? Occam's razor – they are nativists / white supremacist reactionaries (not saying you are anyone of these, I suggest the majority of commentors on this page are).
To claim to believe in a meritocracy and to be outraged by equality expert is typical English hypocrisy. Have you read Orwell’s essay “The Lion and the Unicorn” (1941)? It’s suggested that hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue, ie the hypocrite has to pretend to be good. The English are, historically, hypocritical people, the people of double standards. The Imperial power which controlled a quarter of the globe, but pretended it didn’t. That speaks the language of liberty and freedom, while having oppressed whole peoples. That exploits others and has a rigid, stratified class structure, that keeps people in slums. And yet talks about fair play and decency as though that was the distinctive characteristic of British public life. Orwell talks about the double standards of British public life – it dresses up class hierarchy in the language of fair play, it dresses up Empire in the language of freedom. This hypocrisy is projected overseas and it’s projected internally, the idea that we are fair, when all you have to do is to look at the structures, the hierarchies, the exclusions, the snobberies of English life to know that we’re not.
I’m not sure how one defines MSM, but GB News is Establishment but pretends it is for the “every man” as you say. The company’s backers, Sir Paul Marshall, the hedge fund tycoon, and Legatum, the Dubai-based investment vehicle of New Zealand billionaire Christopher Chandler, are not “every men”. Why do you think they are happy to continue funding this channel for a loss?
Why do you think “those on the right can be educated”? The left is generally associated with science and academia, where the consensus changes based on evidence not opinions. The right, who believe the institutions of science, journalism, academia and media are “the four pillars of deceit” and cannot be trusted, resulting in an epistemic crisis.
In 2019 the Tories won with a simple three slogan, a lie, convincing an electorate bored of Brexit negotiations and wanting it all over with, even though they (the Tories) knew they did not have an oven-ready deal and aware of the damage it would do to the country.
I forgot to mention the House of Lords, especially hereditary Peers. The monarchy itself is the ultimate example of the lack of a meritocracy.
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@DilbertWhitehead According to the Gini coefficient, the UK is the most unequal country in Europe apart from Bulgaria.
It’s good you believe in meritocracy as an ideal. Do you support unions and labour laws? Do you support progressive taxation? Free education?
Maybe you’re not “outraged”, but have you read the other comments in this thread and on the page? Why do you think so many GB News viewers are interested in meritocracy after the role employment of an equality expert? Occam's razor – they are nativists / white supremacist reactionaries (not saying you are anyone of these, I suggest the majority of commentors on this page are).
To claim to believe in a meritocracy and to be outraged by equality expert is typical English hypocrisy. Have you read Orwell’s essay “The Lion and the Unicorn” (1941)? It’s suggested that hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue, ie the hypocrite has to pretend to be good. The English are, historically, hypocritical people, the people of double standards. The Imperial power which controlled a quarter of the globe, but pretended it didn’t. That speaks the language of liberty and freedom, while having oppressed whole peoples. That exploits others and has a rigid, stratified class structure, that keeps people in slums. And yet talks about fair play and decency as though that was the distinctive characteristic of British public life. Orwell talks about the double standards of British public life – it dresses up class hierarchy in the language of fair play, it dresses up Empire in the language of freedom. This hypocrisy is projected overseas and it’s projected internally, the idea that we are fair, when all you have to do is to look at the structures, the hierarchies, the exclusions, the snobberies of English life to know that we’re not.
Why do you think “those on the right can be educated”? The left is generally associated with science and academia, where the consensus changes based on evidence not opinions. The right, who believe the institutions of science, journalism, academia and media are “the four pillars of deceit” and cannot be trusted, resulting in an epistemic crisis.
In 2019 the Tories won with a simple three slogan, a lie, convincing an electorate bored of Brexit negotiations and wanting it all over with, even though they (the Tories) knew they did not have an oven-ready deal and aware of the damage it would do to the country.
I forgot to mention the House of Lords, especially hereditary Peers. The monarchy itself is the ultimate example of the lack of a meritocracy.
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@DilbertWhitehead According to the Gini coefficient, the UK is the most unequal country in Europe apart from Bulgaria.
It’s good you believe in meritocracy as an ideal. Do you support unions and labour laws? Do you support progressive taxation? Free education?
Maybe you’re not “outraged”, but have you read the other comments in this thread and on the page? Why do you think so many GB News viewers are interested in meritocracy after the role employment of an equality expert? Occam's razor – they are nativists / white supremacist reactionaries (not saying you are anyone of these, I suggest the majority of commentors on this page are).
To claim to believe in a meritocracy and to be outraged by equality expert is typical English hypocrisy. Have you read Orwell’s essay “The Lion and the Unicorn” (1941)? It’s suggested that hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue, ie the hypocrite has to pretend to be good. The English are, historically, hypocritical people, the people of double standards. The Imperial power which controlled a quarter of the globe, but pretended it didn’t. That speaks the language of liberty and freedom, while having oppressed whole peoples. That exploits others and has a rigid, stratified class structure, that keeps people in slums. And yet talks about fair play and decency as though that was the distinctive characteristic of British public life. Orwell talks about the double standards of British public life – it dresses up class hierarchy in the language of fair play, it dresses up Empire in the language of freedom. This hypocrisy is projected overseas and it’s projected internally, the idea that we are fair, when all you have to do is to look at the structures, the hierarchies, the exclusions, the snobberies of English life to know that we’re not.
I’m not sure how one defines MSM, but GB News is Establishment but pretends it is for the “every man” as you say. The company’s backers, Sir Paul Marshall, the hedge fund tycoon, and Legatum, the Dubai-based investment vehicle of New Zealand billionaire Christopher Chandler, are not “every men”. Why do you think they are happy to continue funding this channel for a loss?
Why do you think “those on the right can be educated”? The left is generally associated with science and academia, where the consensus changes based on evidence not opinions. The right, who believe the institutions of science, journalism, academia and media are “the four pillars of deceit” and cannot be trusted, resulting in an epistemic crisis.
In 2019 the Tories won with a simple three slogan, a lie, convincing an electorate bored of Brexit negotiations and wanting it all over with, even though they (the Tories) knew they did not have an oven-ready deal and aware of the damage it would do to the country.
I forgot to mention the House of Lords, especially hereditary Peers. The monarchy itself is the ultimate example of the lack of a meritocracy.
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George Monbiot: People at the extrinsic end of the spectrum are more attracted to prestige, status, image, fame, power and wealth. They are strongly motivated by the prospect of individual reward and praise. They are more likely to objectify and exploit other people, to behave rudely and aggressively and to dismiss social and environmental impacts. They have little interest in cooperation or community. People with a strong set of extrinsic values are more likely to suffer from frustration, dissatisfaction, stress, anxiety, anger and compulsive behaviour.
Trump exemplifies extrinsic values. From the tower bearing his name in gold letters to his gross overstatements of his wealth; from his endless ranting about “winners” and “losers” to his reported habit of cheating at golf; from his extreme objectification of women, including his own daughter, to his obsession with the size of his hands; from his rejection of public service, human rights and environmental protection to his extreme dissatisfaction and fury, undiminished even when he was president of the United States, Trump, perhaps more than any other public figure in recent history, is a walking, talking monument to extrinsic values.
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Toxic masculinity = Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump, Viktor Orbán, Narendra Modi, Jair Bolsonaro, Mohammed bin Salman, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Benjamin Netanyahu, Kim Jong-un, Boris Johnson.
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The overwhelming violence and crimes committed in the world is conducted by male homo sapiens. From assaults, murders, rapes and other sexual assaults, to fraud, corruption, theft, cronyism, genocide, war, torture, terrorism, autocrats, ecocide, hunting, cruelty to animals, pollution etc etc. Male homo sapiens are the largest threat to this planet.
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The sheer volume of these comments is just staggering, filled with tired, sordid stereotypes, deeply derogatory language, and a level of vitriol that makes you wonder what century we’re living in. This isn’t about political discourse or debate; it’s about tearing down a woman who doesn’t fit some narrow, outdated idea of how women should behave, look, or where they should come from.
It’s truly exhausting, this constant barrage of misogyny disguised as “critique,” and it’s a stark reminder that, despite the progress we’ve made, there are still those who see women - especially working-class women - as nothing more than targets for their own insecurities and frustrations.
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@vincentmckenna1755 Imagine how gullible you'd have to be to fall for the crap dished out by Rupert Murdoch, Dominic Cummings, Putin, Johnson, Gove, Banks, Rees-Mogg, Patel, Sunak, Francois, Frost, Davis, Raab, Mordaunt, Javid?
The key variables in whether people voted for Brexit were age and education. Educated people are not necessarily smarter than uneducated people, but they have been taught to think critically, to judge the quality of the evidence and see through propaganda.
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Someone on Quora asked “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:
A few things spring to mind -
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honor and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff the Queensberry rules of basic decency & he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that: Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are. You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump. And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.
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@GhastlyCretin That's debatable.
"So I said, ‘Let me ask you a question, and [the guy who makes boats in South Carolina] said, ‘Nobody ever asked this question,’ and it must be because of MIT, my relationship to MIT —very smart. He goes, I say, ‘What would happen if the boat sank from its weight? And you’re in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery and the battery is now underwater and there’s a shark that’s approximately 10 yards over there?’”
“So I said, so there’s a shark 10 yards away from the boat, 10 yards or here, do I get electrocuted if the boat is sinking? Water goes over the battery, the boat is sinking. Do I stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted, or do I jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted? Because I will tell you, he didn’t know the answer. He said, ‘You know, nobody’s ever asked me that question.” I said, ‘I think it’s a good question.’ I think there’s a lot of electric current coming through that water. But you know what I’d do if there was a shark or you get electrocuted, I’ll take electrocution every single time. I’m not getting near the shark. So we’re going to end that.”
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@slartibartfast You think the Tories wouldn't have committed troops to Afghanistan and Iraq? More Tory MPs as a % voted for the Iraq invasion than Labour MPs.
The Tories have got us involved in wars - culture wars - dividing the nation - and Brexit - a war with Europe. Plus we're in a proxy war with Russia.
Don't pretend to care about antisemitism. Please. Do you care about Islamophobia in the Tories?
You want to bring up corruption? Seriously??
The Tories said they were going to control the national debt. It's gone up every year they've been in office.
The Tories said Brexit would make us richer. It's made us far poorer.
The Tories said they would reduce inequality. Our inequality is one of the worst in the OECD
The Tories said they'd fix the NHS. NHS waiting list is the highest on record, and was also the highest on record before Covid.
The Tories said they'd reduce council tax. The amount you pay has gone up every year.
The Tories said they'd be a clean, transparent govt. Corruption has risen hugely, and that's before even factoring in the 20% of Covid contracts that raised a "red flag" for corruption by international standards.
The Tories said they'd solve housing problems. Housing prices have ballooned and the crisis gets worse every year.
The Tories said they'd increase education funding. Education funding has plummeted.
The Tories said they'd resolve social problems. Racial and other hate crimes have bloomed.
Tories said they'd improve our productivity. Productivity has dropped below the levels under Labour.
Tories said they'd be strong on law and order. They cut over 20,000 police and almost 1/4 of prison and probation staff.
Tories said they'd solve migration. They drove out almost 100,000 EU-born NHS staff, immigration from the rest of the world increased, and now they're arguing about how to reverse it all.
Tories said they'd control inflation. Right...
Tories promised they'd reduce taxes. The UK's tax burden is the highest for 70 years.
The Tories promised sound government and good leadership. Ahem...
Tories promised high wages. Wage growth since 2015 Germany: 40% France: 39% UK: 9% They've delivered 1/4 the wage performance of our economic rivals.
To refresh your short memory, under Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 12 years?
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Between 1997 and 2010 Labour was continuously in government. Here are Labour’s top 50 achievements during those years.
Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.
Low mortgage rates.
Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
Employment is at its highest level ever.
Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
85,000 more nurses.
32,000 more doctors.
Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
Restored city-wide government to London.
Record number of students in higher education.
Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
£200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
Banned fox hunting.
Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
Free TV licences for over-75s.
Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
Free eye test for over 60s.
More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
Free entry to national museums and galleries.
Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.
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@laurencesmith1435 The 1951 Refugee Convention does not require a person to claim asylum in the first safe country they reach.
The criteria for being assessed as a refugee is complicated and time consuming, just ask the Home Office.
Do a simple web search for "wars in Africa."
From the The 1951 Refugee Convention, a refugee is a person who "owing to well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country; or who, not having a nationality and being outside the country of his former habitual residence as a result of such events, is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to return to it."
The UNHCR in 2011 added to the 1951 definition, refugees are people: "who are outside their country of nationality or habitual residence and unable to return there owing to serious and indiscriminate threats to life, physical integrity or freedom resulting from generalized violence or events seriously disturbing public order."
A refugee doesn't have to be fleeing war.
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@alunjones3860
Wow, you've been well brainwashed by the likes of GB News and Murdoch's media. I've often heard BLM described as "neo-Marxist organisation" by people who can't define what that means and have never read sociology, let alone Marx. Left wing people, including many in the Labour party are concerned at women's safety in re: to trans issues. However, they believe in gender dysphoria and support genuine trans people.
The large majority of the media support the Tories. You're deluded if you think the mainstream support Labour. The only media organisation which reliably supports Labour is the Mirror, even the Guardian didn't support Labour in 2017. In stark contrast, The Daily Telegraph, The Times, The Daily Mail, The Express, The Sun, GB News, TalkTV all support the Tories. The BBC is accused of bias by both sides. It is run by Tory donors, so it is inaccurate to say the BBC goes easy on Labour.
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Sheerman is correct. The shamelessness and hypocrisy of these Tories is something else. Years of corruption, sleaze, incompetence and law breaking – and this non story is all they have? Seriously? FFS. From Johnson’s partying, wall paper, countless lies in parliament, the PPE contracts to mates – why is the raid on Michelle Mone’s property not covered by any news agency – Owen Patterson, Cameron & Greensil, funded by Russian oligarchs, illegal prorogation of parliament, breaking of internal law (Internal Markets Bill), Parish watching porn, Patel’s bullying, Sunak’s (worth £400m) tax avoidance / Green Card, care home deaths, “let the bodies pile high” etc etc, all the Tories have is to whine like the little biatches they are that Durham police should reopen a long closed case. The Tories weren't concerned with Durhan police's investigation into Dominic Cummings. Pathetic.
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@ste20ful Why don't we have control of our borders?
We do. Passports were introduced during WW1 and since then you haven't been able to legally enter UK without one.
But people do enter illegally. Or enter legally but then stay longer than permitted.
How can this happen? Because, almost alone in the developed world, we have no system to track people and ensure they're meant to be here.
Labour spent a decade trying to introduce ID cards, and Tories called it "an erosion of civil liberties" and opposed it every step of the way.
Labour had a pilot scheme running in 2009, and although Tories in the Lords watered it down, it would have resolved many of the issues that came after.
UK citizens would have ID, and people entering the country would be given temporary ID for as long as they had leave to stay.
And a computer system would check that they left on time, and prevent them accessing services (housing, benefits etc) if they stayed illegally.
But Tories scrapped it in 2011, and then shouted ever since about all the immigrants we couldn't track.
I have no problem with immigration. Humans have always migrated. If we didn't, we'd all still live in Tanzania. It's natural.
But to deliberately destroy the technology that would "control immigration" and then complain immigration is out of control is absolutely bat-sh't crazy.
So whenever I hear a Tory banging on about immigration, I think: you did this, you hypocrite.
BTW the benefits we receive in the UK are some of the worst in Western Europe. Asylum seekers aren't coming here for the benefits or the weather.
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The sheer volume of these comments is just staggering, filled with tired, sordid stereotypes, deeply derogatory language, and a level of vitriol that makes you wonder what century we’re living in. This isn’t about political discourse or debate; it’s about tearing down a woman who doesn’t fit some narrow, outdated idea of how women should behave, look, or where they should come from.
It’s truly exhausting, this constant barrage of misogyny disguised as “critique,” and it’s a stark reminder that, despite the progress we’ve made, there are still those who see women - especially working-class women - as nothing more than targets for their own insecurities and frustrations.
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Exactly who are "the Indigenous British People"? Romans, Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans? Someone else?
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@villhelm No one is a "native" in the UK. all our ancestors were migrants: Iron Age Britons, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans.
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The overwhelming violence and crimes committed in the world is conducted by male homo sapiens. From assaults, murders, rapes and other sexual assaults, to fraud, corruption, theft, cronyism, genocide, war, torture, terrorism, autocrats, ecocide, hunting, cruelty to animals, pollution etc etc. Male homo sapiens are the largest threat to this planet.
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@samfoley1497 Well that was bizarre.
I’m going to make some assumptions about you based on the fact you voted for Brexit. It may not be correct, but statistically speaking you are likely to be old – being old was a better indicator of voting for Brexit than income or class – and uneducated – again having at least a university degree was a better indicator of likely voting preference than income or class. For younger people, concerns about climate change loom larger than older people (as a generalisation). Maybe it is just based on self interest. Maybe younger people worry about the future more because they know they are going to live in it longer than older people. But it is also possible that the younger class understand the future better than older people do. They see things that older people don’t. They know what’s coming and refuse to fall for the lie. Of course, educated people are far more likely to believe scientists and academics. There’s an epistemic crisis where a large percentage of the population refuse to believe in science, academia or journalism (serious journalism, not Murdoch's propaganda or The Daily Hate).
You aren’t by chance an anti-vaxxer are you? The Venn diagram of Brexit voters and anti-vaxxers is almost a circle.
In regards to “rich politicians and bureaucrats are in favour of crushing the poor under the weight of ever-increasing energy costs for the greater good”, I’m going to have to again remind you that you have less right to complain than me about rising costs, as you voted for Johnson and the Tories, the Vote Leave, Get Brexit Done party. The Tories are largely responsible for the cost of living crisis, from Brexit (devalued the £, lack of investment, decrease in GDP, business & consumer confidence, increased bureaucracy / barriers to trade etc), mismanagement during the pandemic (the UK had the worst economy in the G7 during the pandemic by some margin) and now with their policies around energy costs. The Tories could implement policies that other European countries are which have significantly limited the rise in energy costs. Why didn’t they? They claim to be The People’s Government “taking back control”. What a joke. The decision is ideological. The Tories’ genius is to get people like you to vote for them, against your own interests, by using the culture war. They have you angry about statues and refugees and taking the knee, so you don’t notice their incompetence and corruption and blatant favouring of the wealthy. That skill of the Tories is what keeps them in power, maintains the status quo and helps the wealthy elites get even wealthier.
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@californiancondor6860 In case you have forgotten, under Blair and Brown, when we last had adults in charge:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and yes the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation of Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland – Good Friday Agreement
– a Britain in Europe’s mainstream not in Europe’s slipstream
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 12 years?
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Trump makes the absurd claim that people weren’t allowed to say “Merry Christmas” until he came along.
He accused Ted Cruz’s father of a role in the JFK assassination and said Cruz’s wife was ugly. But Cruz is so low that he sucked up to Trump anyway.
He claimed he coined the phrase “priming the pump,” which has been around since 1932. He said he gave Defense Secretary James Mattis the nickname “Mad Dog”; he didn't.
He lied that there were “205,000 more ballots than you had voters” in PA.
He made the U.S. a laughingstock when he gave a speech at the United Nations.
He denounced 4 women in Congress who are members of minority groups, telling them to go back where they came from, even though 3 were born here and the 4th immigrated as a child.
Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper said Trump wanted to shoot social justice protesters. "We reached that point in the conversation where he looked frankly at Gen. Milley and said, 'Can't you just shoot them, just shoot them in the legs or something?'"
He lied that the strategic oil reserve was “mostly empty” and he filled it. In fact, the reserve was lower at the end of his term than at the start.
He lied that "the entire Database of Maricopa County in Arizona has been DELETED!"
He overruled experts to give a security clearance to Jared Kushner, who later leveraged his access to get $2B from the Saudis.
He bathes in his cult of personality: "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot people and I wouldn't lose voters."
After the right demonized Anthony Fauci, Trump claimed not to know who gave Fauci a presidential commendation. It was Trump.
He said he got to know Putin “very well” when they were on the same episode of “60 Minutes.” But Trump was in NY, Putin in Russia.
Discussing the breakup of his marriage to Ivana in 1990, he said: “When a man leaves a woman, especially when it was perceived that he has left for a piece of ass—a good one!— there are 50 percent of the population who will love the woman who was left.”
He said in 1991: “I have black guys counting my money. … I hate it. The only guys I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes all day.”
He said in 2015 he favored the creation of a database to track all Muslims in the U.S.
Asked in 2016 if women should be charged with a crime for having an abortion despite a ban, he said: “The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment.”
He defended Putin in 2015: "Nobody’s proven that he’s killed anybody."
In 2016, he called for not only killing terrorists but killing their family members, too.
He invited Russians into the Oval Office and shared classified information.
He tried to revoke CNN reporter Jim Acosta’s credentials because Acosta did his job.
His company, the Trump Organization, was convicted of 17 tax crimes, including conspiracy and falsifying business records.
He called for government crackdowns on MSNBC and CBS because he didn’t like their coverage of him.
His pardon got Steve Bannon out of federal fraud charges in a “build the wall” scam. Right-wing disinformation is Bannon’s game: "The Democrats don't matter. The real opposition is the media. And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with shit."
He falsely accused 2 Georgia election workers of election fraud – the same allegations that led to a $148M judgment vs. Rudy Giuliani.
His bid to monetize the presidency by hosting the G-7 summit at his Doral golf club sparked outrage, and he backed off.
As Notre Dame Cathedral burned, Trump embarrassed the U.S. by tweeting: “Perhaps flying water tankers could be used to put it out. Must act quickly!”
He declared publicly in 1999 that he was “pro-choice in every respect.” But he tossed that aside for politics.
He’s always been a sore loser. After Ted Cruz beat him in the 2016 Iowa caucuses, he tweeted: “Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified.” Sound familiar?
He praised Hungarian despot Viktor Orban as “one of the strongest leaders anywhere in the world.”
A Trump golf club put up a marker about a “River of Blood” at a Civil War battle that supposedly took place there. But no such battle occurred. It’s a lie.
Several Trump golf clubs displayed a Time magazine cover featuring him. You guessed it: It's fake.
He pardoned Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio, who had been convicted of ignoring a court order to stop profiling Latinos.
He tweeted about MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski “badly bleeding from a face-lift.”
He lied about Brzezinski’s husband/co-host: “When will they open a Cold Case on the Psycho Joe Scarborough matter in Florida. Did he get away with murder? Some people think so.”
He hired Kellyanne Conway as a professional liar, and she fulfilled that role, saying early in the pandemic that Covid was “contained,” calling lies “alternative facts” and referring to a terrorist attack that never happened: the “Bowling Green Massacre.”
He uses phrases like “brilliant” and “strong like granite” to describe China’s dictator Xi Jinping.
He quit the Iran nuclear deal, raising the chances of nuclear war.
He told his Cabinet that the Soviet Union was justified in invading Afghanistan in 1979.
After former Klan leader David Duke endorsed him for president, Trump said: "I don't know David Duke. … I just don't know anything about him." But researchers found video clips showing Trump talking about Duke on national TV multiple times.
He refused to attend his successor’s inauguration, becoming the first president to boycott the transition since Andrew Johnson in 1869.
He tore up official documents, forcing aides to tape them together to preserve them as required by federal law.
He encouraged a “lock her up” chant about Hillary Clinton and her private email server, but Trump’s daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared Kushner improperly used personal messaging services such as email and WhatsApp for hundreds of government communications.
He endorsed NC gov hopeful Mark Robinson, a Holocaust denier who called Obama a “top-ranking demon” and said "I absolutely want to go back to the America where women couldn't vote.”
Trump's social-media Christmas wish for his opponents: “May they rot in hell.”
He used the South Lawn of the White House for a partisan event, ignoring precedent and propriety, when he gave his 2020 Republican National Convention speech there.
In late 2020, sore loser Trump delayed transition talks with the Biden team even though the stonewalling hurt public health efforts during a pandemic.
Trump's administration asked Japan to nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize. Japan did so to curry favor.
Asked about QAnon, the conspiracy cult that claims JFK Jr. is still alive and Democrats kidnap children to harvest their blood, Trump said: “I don’t know much about the movement other than I understand that they like me very much, which I appreciate.”
He lied that U.S. Steel was building 6, 7, 8, or 9 new plants (the number varied). But the company built no new plants.
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When Starmer was photographed drinking beer, the restrictions for the public had been partially lifted, and mixing indoors for work was allowed. Including eating meals at your desk.
He was working.
In addition, the govt had further relaxed restrictions to allow political parties to campaign during the elections. He was in Durham on a campaign visit, and working in a campaign office. Nobody denies this. It was permitted.
The claim he "ate £200 of curry" sounds excessive until you find out the bill was for the entire office, not one man. Even at £15 a head - a pretty modest amount for a pretty standard curry and beer - that's only 13 people.
Police already looked into all this and found no laws were broken, and no case to answer.
A few days ago we were told we should ignore Boris Johnson parties because there's a war, and it's a waste of police time.
There is still a war. Getting police to investigate twice - when the evidence I've shown proves no law broken - is 2x waste of time.
And it hardly needs pointing out that Boris Johnson headed the gov that wrote the rules. It was one party, it was at least 12. Over 50 people have been fined and a further 100 questioned, with more fines expected.
Very different from dinner at work at a time the law allowed it
We all know why they're pushing this story. Sling mud, hope some sticks, and distract from Johnson, Sunak, Hancock mixing with Randox, rapists, coke-heads, tractor wankers, "sexist of the year" awards, and Nadine Dorries being incapable of the most basic of human tasks.
But it's still worth pointing out what utter bollocks the whole thing is, and how a simple look at the legal restrictions at the time of the photo proves nothing illegal was done. It takes 2 minutes.
Every single "journalist" pushing this story must know it to be false.
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All the problems the country is facing - cost of living, energy bills, staff shortages, stagnant economy, war in Ukraine, pandemic recovery, sewage in our rivers and beaches, corruption, rising crime, strikes, inequality, climate change etc - and you're worked up over Starmer not "defining a woman" on the radio because he was rightly concerned at not offending transpeople. Grow up.
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@adriansams6066 Look at the country now compared to when the Tories came to power in 2010. Tory Austerity, Brexit, pandemic mismanagement, corruption, stagnant growth, devalued pound, decreased trade, decreased foreign investment, now high inflation, government debt at 100% of GDP, soon to be recession, the second worst economy in the G20 (apart from Russia). You're the one who doesn't understand history and economics.
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@krishnan-resurrection714 Who were they? Romans, Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans? Where'd they come from? Did they come on small boats as well? Did they have passports? Were they economic immigrants?
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Under Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 13 years?
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@michaeljames1468 What's your point? In 2020 under the Tories government spending was 48.92% of GDP, in 2021 it was 44.87%. Why did stop at 2019. It is predicted to be 41.67% this year.
Due to the Global Financial Crash, between 2008 - 2010 the UK's real GDP declined 6%, Brown had to bail out the financial sector, unemployment was high (global recession), hence the high govt spending in 2009/10. You provided stats with no context. Obviously in 2020 the Tories had to deal with a pandemic and Brexit (self inflicted wound).
There were four recessions and contractions (by year) during Margaret Thatcher’s term alone (1979-90), and three during Major’s (1990-97, including Q4 of 1990), Labour continues to take the blame for the global financial crisis in 2008, even though Labour was at the time pursuing the “light touch” financial regulation favoured by Tories. The “light touch” is something that Brown later said was a mistake.
One thing that almost all macroeconomists agree on is that when recovering from a severe downturn such as 2008 — and with interest rates at nearly zero — the deficit should not be the target of policy. Instead, it should be allowed to expand until the economy has recovered. Eliminating the deficit was the single most important target of the Conservatives’ so-called Long Term Economic Plan. In 2010, Osborne stated that the deficit would be eliminated by 2015. Two years after that deadline passed, the 2017 Conservative manifesto stated that they will ‘aim to’ eliminate the deficit by 2025. Even on their own entirely misguided terms, they have failed completely. When Labour left office in 2010, the UK’s national debt as a percentage of GDP was just under 70%. Instead of eliminating the debt, under the Tories it was risen to over 100% of GDP. Before you cite the pandemic, the debt was 84% of GDP before the pandemic started.
It is hard to think of a more economically reckless move to call a referendum on Brexit after six years of an austerity program. The resulting devaluation of the pound, lack of investment, decreased trade, capital flight, staff shortages have further weakened a weak economy, leading directly to the current cost of living crisis. The Referendum was not in the national interest – it was to stop right wing Tories defecting to UKIP.
A recent private Treasury attack dossier circulated to critique Labour’s economic policy revealed embarrassing statistics for the Tories, including Labour presided over the last budget surplus, that Labour governments presided over nine budget surpluses compared with just five under Tories, despite the Tories being in government far longer.
By several measures–public sector debt, public sector borrowing, macro-economic stability, and the value of wages and salaries–successive Tory governments have not only failed to perform better than their Labour counterparts, they have usually performed worse. The simple reason is that they disinvest in the real economy in favour of financial markets and give proportional tax breaks to the richest.
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@michaeljames1468 If you voted Tory in 2010 to reduce debt, you made a mistake. They increased public sector debt every year.
If you voted for Brexit to make us richer, you made a mistake. It has made us much, much poorer.
If you voted for Brexit to improve all the trading we could do when we were free of the EU, you made a mistake. Our trading has gone off a cliff.
If you voted Tory to reduce inequality, you made a mistake. Inequality in the UK is now higher than any comparable economy except USA
If you voted Tory to improve law and order, you made a mistake. Police numbers tumbled after they took office.
If you voted Tory to reduce immigration, you made a mistake. Immigration from the EU shrank, but from the rest of the world it grew.
If you voted Tory or Brexit to improve your wages, you made a mistake. Growth since 2015: Germany: 40%, France: 39%, UK: 9%
We're 1/4 the wage performance of our economic rivals.
If you voted Tory to reduce the number of people waiting for NHS treatment, you made a mistake. Numbers have grown every year (except during Covid, when most non-urgent treatments were postponed)
If you voted Tory reduce waiting times, you made a mistake. They've also increased every year.
If you voted Tory to improve education funding, you made a mistake
If you voted Tory to reduce the amount of council tax you pay, you made a mistake. The amount you pay is shown in blue, and has grown every year
If you voted for Tories to stamp down on corruption, you made a mistake. It has risen hugely, before even factoring in the 20% of Covid contracts that raised a "red flag" for corruption by international standards
If you voted Tory to reduce racist or other hate crimes, you made a mistake.
If you voted Tory to control inflation, that was a mistake. UK inflation hits 30 year high.
If you voted Tory to make housing more affordable, that was a mistake.
If you voted Tory because you wanted good leadership, you made a mistake. Cameron scores worse than even Brown, and Theresa May worse than anybody. They are HUGELY negative in all categories.
And this doesn't even include Boris Johnson.
You should reconsider being a shill for the Tories.
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For the sceptics, young, people with short-term memories - a reminder of what Labour achieved uUnder Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beat the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripled of overseas aid
– the cancelled of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banned fox hunting
– the Olympics for London 2012
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students were women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
Feel free to compile a similar list for what the Tories have achieved in 12 years.
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@MohitKumar-jf8lz Who are you? You don't know me or what I've done in my life. I've lived and worked in Australia, New Zealand, the US and India. It's not that easy to get work visas even with qualifications. I'm making a point about the UK voting to have rights removed (Freedom of Movement), which no other country has been self destructive to emulate.
I'm a patriot - not a nationalist like these Brexiteers - who wants the UK to live up to its ideals, which means asking us to be our best selves. A patriot has universal values, standards by which they judge the nation, always wishing it well - and wishing it can do better.
A nationalist - people like Johnson, Farage, Trump, Le Pen, Putin et al - encourages people to be our worst and then tells us that we are the best. A nationalist, "although endlessly brooding on power, victory, defeat, revenge," wrote Orwell, tends to be "uninterested in what happens in the real world." Nationalism is relative, since the only truth is the resentment we feel when we contemplate others. As the novelist Danilo Kis put it, nationalism "has no universal values, aesthetic or ethical."
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@garrywynne1218 Nice try, but a study by Oxford Economics (2018), commissioned by the Migration Advisory Committee, estimated the net fiscal contribution of EEA migrants in the financial year (FY) 2016/17 at £4.7bn. HMRC data (2022) showed that in FY2018/19 (the most recent year for which there are data), EEA and Swiss citizens paid £22.4bn more in income tax and National Insurance contributions than they took out in tax credits and child benefit. Non-EEA (and non-Swiss) citizens paid £20bn more in income tax and National Insurance than they received in tax credits and child benefit. The Office for Budget Responsibility forecasts net immigration reduces government debt - the OBR estimated that net immigration of 245,000 (the ‘high-migration’ scenario) would mean that by 2067-68, the primary budget deficit (i.e. excluding interest payments on debt) would be 0.8% of GDP lower, and net debt would be 30% lower. A government Impact Assessment of the Skilled Worker route (the post-Brexit alternative to FOM) estimates that it would have a total fiscal cost of £2.4 billion over its first ten years of implementation. The calculation takes into account a range of costs and benefits, including the fiscal cost of public service provision, fiscal benefit from tax revenue, revenue from visa fees, and the cost to the Home Office of administering the route. These costs are estimated at approximately £2.4 trillion at the end of 2021.
It's a myth that immigrants from the EU are a drain on our welfare state. The likes of Farage spread the myth for reasons I'd rather not speculate on.
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@garrywynne1218 As late as December 2015, just 1% of Brits said that Europe was the most crucial issue facing the country. Noone cared about the EU. Most people didn’t understand the Single Market or Customs Union, it became apparent during the negotiations the Tory Brexiteer MPS certainly didn’t. Cameron promised the referendum to appease MPs who were thinking of defecting to UKIP, while he expected not to win the 2015 General Election outright, that is the Tories would be again in a coalition with the Lib Dems who would not agree to the referendum (being pro EU). So please, don’t talk about the cost of the “club.” The sad irony is areas who voted for Brexit, places like Wales, Cornwall, north of England are losing massive amounts of investment – the money the Tories are putting into those areas are a fraction of the European Regional Development Fund. Since the referendum result, so-called “Project Fear” has come to pass: devalued pound, decreased foreign investment, decreased trade, decreased skilled workers, 4% hit to GDP. Young people will make sure the UK will rejoin Europe.
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@1chish Journalism
In 1988 Johnson was sacked from his first job in journalism as a graduate trainee on The Times for fabricating a quote.
In 1995 a recording emerged of a telephone conversation in which he agreed to provide an old friend, Darius Guppy, with the address of a journalist who was investigating him so that he could have him beaten up to the extent of “a couple of black eyes and a cracked rib or something like that.”
As a columnist on The Daily Telegraph he faced accusations of racism and homophobia for describing Africans as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles” and referring to gay men as “tank-topped bum boys”.
In 2018, he caused further controversy with an article for the paper in which he described Muslim women who wore the niqab or the burka as looking like “letterboxes” and “bank robbers”.
Personal life
The three times-married Johnson has led a colourful personal life, with allegations of multiple affairs. He has never confirmed how many children he has fathered in and out of wedlock.
In 2004 he was sacked as a shadow minister by then-Tory leader Michael Howard for lying to journalists over reports he had an affair with the columnist Petronella Wyatt who said she had had two abortions.
While he was campaigning to be Tory leader in 2019, police were called to the flat of his girlfriend (now wife), Carrie Symonds, following reports of a noisy altercation between the pair.
His first Conservative Party conference as leader was marked by claims by the journalist Charlotte Edwardes that he squeezed her thigh during a private lunch when he was editor of The Spectator magazine.
Jennifer Arcuri
Johnson was investigated by the police watchdog over his relationship with the American businesswoman Jennifer Arcuri who said she had a four-year affair with him when he was London mayor.
In 2019, he was referred to the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) over reports Arcuri’s tech firm was able to access £25,000 in public funds and that she was allowed onto three overseas trade missions.
The IOPC found that while there was no basis for any criminal charges, Johnson should have declared an interest concerning Arcuri and that his failure to do so may have breached the London Assembly’s code of conduct.
Foreign Secretary
In 2017 Johnson was accused of worsening the plight of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe – the British-Iranian dual national held in Tehran on spying charges – after he wrongly claimed she was in the country teaching journalism.
Following his comments, Zaghari-Ratcliffe, who always maintained she was in Iran on holiday with her young daughter, was brought before a court and accused of engaging in propaganda.
Standards
Following his resignation as foreign secretary, Johnson was forced to apologise to Parliament for failing properly to declare outside earnings – totalling more than £50,000 on nine separate occasions.
The Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards found the failings were not inadvertent and showed a lack of regard for the rules of the House.
Priti Patel
Johnson’s independent adviser on ministerial interests Sir Alex Allan quit after Johnson overruled his finding that Home Secretary Priti Patel had bullied civil servants.
The Prime Minister said he did not accept that Patel – a fellow Brexiteer – had breached the Ministerial Code which would normally meant she would have been required to quit.
Covid-19
Johnson was criticised for failing to attend a series of five Cobra meetings in early 2020 just as the virus was beginning to spread.
He controversially refused to sack his chief adviser Dominic Cummings over his notorious trip to Barnard Castle to “test his eyesight” while the country was in lockdown.
Johnson came under fire for the chaotic way Christmas was cancelled for millions following the discovery of the Alpha variant and his slow response when the Delta variant emerged in India.
He reportedly said he would rather see bodies “piled high” than order a third national lockdown and was panned for his reluctance to wear a face mask in Parliament.
The UK have had 188 000 + covid related deaths, per capita one of the worse death tolls in the world, while enduring one of the longest and most severe lockdowns.
The economy UK experienced the worse drop in the G7.
The Downing Street flat
Johnson was accused by Dominic Cummings, his former adviser, of secretly trying to arrange for wealthy Tory donors to pay for a lavish £112 000 revamp of his official flat over No 11.
Following an inquiry, his new adviser on ministerial interests, Lord Geidt, accepted that Mr Johnson had not known what was going on and when he found out he paid for the work out of his own pocket.
Lord Geidt reacted angrily when he learned later that Johnson had exchanged WhatsApp messages with one of the donors involved, although he said it would not have changed his final conclusion that there was no breach of the Ministerial Code.
In a separate investigation, the Electoral Commission fined the Tory Party £17,800 for failing to properly declare a donation, part of which was originally used to help pay for the revamp.
Economy
The UK is predicted to have the lowest growth in the G7 and the second lowest growth in the G20 (only Russia is predicted to have worse growth).
The UK currently has an inflation rate of 7.4%. We are likely to experience stagflation – a stagnant economy (likely a recession) and inflation.
You happy MFer?
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@FlaviusConstantinus306 Under Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 12 years? Compare the UK in 2023 with the UK in 2007 when Blair stood down as PM or in 2010 when Brown left.
As for your inaccurate allegations: Blair declared the need for five economic tests for the Euro to be adapted and promised a referendum. Four of those five tests were never met. White people make up 87% of the country, no where near a minority. As for Bkair being soley responsible for "radical Islamic terrorists"...riiiight...
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Trump incited a deadly assault on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
His extremist justices took away women’s right to control their own bodies.
He wants huge tariffs, which are essentially a tax on American consumers.
He stole top secrets and left them in a Mar-a-Lago bathroom.
He bragged about grabbing the private parts of women he’d just met.
He called for a “day of violence” in which police could do whatever they wanted with no accountability.
He says his mass deportation of undocumented immigrants will be “a bloody story.”
He pushed the fake-electors scheme to overturn a fair election.
He called his opponents “vermin,” echoing hate speech from the Holocaust and the 1994 Rwanda massacre.
He invited the Taliban to Camp David.
He claimed you need an ID to buy cereal.
He pulled the U.S. out of the Paris Agreement on climate change.
He said a 2nd Trump administration would give a major health policy role to anti-vaxxer RFK Jr., a disturbed person who dumped a dead bear cub in Central Park and cut off the head of a dead whale with a chainsaw and strapped it to the roof of his minivan. (Really.)
He was friends with Jeffrey Epstein.
He helped the Saudis cover up the murder and dismemberment of a U.S.-based journalist.
He wants to use the military to put down “the enemy from within” – Democrats.
He thinks windmills cause cancer.
He used a Sharpie to doctor an official weather map rather than admit he was wrong about a hurricane hitting Alabama.
He lied that “Dems want to shut your churches down, permanently.”
He said falsely that Mexico would pay for the wall.
His administration separated migrant children from their parents and then lost track of the parents.
He said he'd be a dictator, but only on “Day 1” (which is not how dictators operate).
He denounced Denmark’s leader because she wouldn’t sell him Greenland.
He increased the national debt by 39% in just 4 years while giving the rich a big tax cut.
He said of his daughter Ivanka: “She does have a very nice figure. I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”
He lied publicly that Covid-19 was “like a regular flu that we have flu shots for” while he privately said it was “more deadly than even your strenuous flu.”
He suggested that putting light in people's bodies and injecting them with disinfectant could kill Covid.
He had to pay $2 million in a lawsuit over the Trump Foundation’s misuse of charity funds.
He called Mexican immigrants “rapists.”
On 9/11, he bragged that the fall of the Twin Towers meant his building was NYC's tallest. That boast was tasteless — and false.
He touted his business acumen but couldn’t make a profit from casinos and filed for bankruptcy six times.
He said a judge in one of his legal cases should be removed because he was of Mexican descent.
He called Haiti and African nations “shithole countries.”
He threatened to withdraw the U.S. from NATO, a key alliance for global stability.
He urged supporters to "knock the crap out of" protesters at a 2016 rally.
He made false statements more than 30,000 times as president.
He lied that an “extremely credible source” told him Obama’s birth certificate was fake. After years of pushing the birtherism hoax, Trump admitted it was bunk — and he blamed it on Hillary Clinton.
He took Putin’s word over the word of U.S. intel agencies.
He insulted Gold Star parents whose son, a U.S. soldier, had been killed in Iraq. It was no coincidence that the family was Muslim.
A NY judge found Trump and his adult sons liable for business fraud and canceled the Trump Organization’s business certification.
He exploited the assault on a NYC jogger by taking out newspaper ads calling for the death penalty. The young Central Park 5 suspects were exonerated, but Trump never apologized.
He paid actors to pose as supporters at his June 2015 campaign launch event.
In a bizarre speech to a Boy Scout Jamboree, Trump described a cocktail party for “the hottest people in New York.” He later claimed the group’s leader called to say it was “the greatest speech that was ever made to them.” The Scout leader denied any call happened.
He cheats at everything, including golf. There's a book: "Commander in Cheat: How Golf Explains Trump."
Trump claimed he “helped a little bit” to clear 9/11 rubble, but there’s no evidence it happened.
He lied about being named Michigan’s Man of the Year.
After a MAGA supporter massacred Latinos in El Paso, Trump and his wife went to the city and used a newly orphaned baby as a prop for a photo op.
He lied that “we're the highest taxed nation in the world.” Nope.
He bragged about his penis size on national TV, and Stormy Daniels later fact-checked that as false.
He tweeted in 2019: “Today I opened a major Apple Manufacturing plant in Texas.” In fact, the plant had opened nearly 6 years earlier.
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@bushwhackeddos.2703 Who do you mean exactly? Iron Age Britons, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings, Normans?
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@beverleyday149
More Tory MPs (as a percentage voted for the war in Iraq), the letter was a joke by Liam Byrne, Chief Secretary to the Treasury. Countries don't run out of money - the budget isn't kept in a piggy bank.
£2,365,000,000,000. Two point three six five trillion pounds. That's how big the national debt was in March 2022.
When Labour left office in 2010 it was £995,000,000,000 (995 billion). So, after 12 years of Tory austerity, what happened to the other £1.4 trillion?
Under Blair and Brown:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and yes the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation of our great cities with bright new dawns for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland
– a Britain in Europe’s mainstream not in Europe’s slipstream
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 12 years?
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@guineapigsith699 What do I think? I’m not the least surprised. You start off with a gross and offensive generalisation – “the bad behaviour of previous waves [of refugees/immigrants]”.
Then move on to British exceptionalism – “The British are the most generous and accommodating people in the world, and we've proved that.” – please, we take some of the lowest numbers of refugees for our population and GDP, our benefit system (for all UK nationals, not just refugees) is one of the stingiest in Western Europe. You must get tumescent when Johnson brags we’re “World leading” in some area we are plainly not.
Then you provided a link to a video titled “Some exceedingly ungrateful refugees and immigrants to Britain”, which feeds into that quintessential British demand: that immigrants are welcome, sometimes, provided they’re permanently grateful and deferential and shut the fck up.
If you can’t see the benefits to this country of refugees / immigrants you must be either be wilfully ignorant or a bigot. I’m not going to be able to convince you in a YouTube comment.
People like you are obvious targets for the Tories’ culture war. They divide and rule the population by attacks on immigrants, people of colour, misogyny, homophobia, statues, environment etc, distracting people from their incompetence and corruption, enabling them to hold onto power, maintaining the status quo.
One last point, don’t be so smug about being British. What exactly does that mean? There were no indigenous people of these islands. We all came here at some point in the history of humans. Have you done a DNA test? I have ancestry from Celts, Scandinavia, France, Germany, Iberia and Italy. We originally evolved in Africa, in the Rift Valley. Get over yourself.
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The people arriving in dinghies are not “illegal”. People have the right to apply for asylum in any country that has signed the 1951 Refugee Convention. Many of those people seeking asylum are coming from countries the UK has waged war in (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria) or brought sanctions against. We are partly responsible for the instability in those countries which lead to push factors, ie the desire of people to flee. The geopolitics of the Sahel and Sahara are complicated, a lot of the issues are due to European colonialism. The UK takes far fewer refugees than other European countries, one would be forgiven for not realising this given the hysteria generated by culture warriors. Speaking of our veterans, some of those seeking asylum would have worked with our military in places like Afghanistan, because of which they are no longer safe in their homeland. In regards to our military veterans being homeless, there are a myriad of issues causing this including: lack of funding for mental health services, lack of social housing, poor discharge support from the military. It is disingenuous for culture warriors to lay the blame for this shameful issue on immigrants.
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Under Blair and Brown 1997 - 2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred Act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation of Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London 2012
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
"both parties are useless" FFS🤬
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@bam bam 2008 was the GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS. Capitalism almost came to a standstill.
More Tory MPs (as a percentage) voted to invade Iraq. You don't think a Tory PM wouldn't have supported Bush & Cheney?
The scandals you refer to was local government and insitutions, not central government. Most groomers are white males under 30.
We need immigration. Immigration is positive on the country. Why do so many sectors have massive job vacancies?
The note was a lame joke by Liam Byrne, Chief Secretary to the Treasury. When Labour left office in 2010 the government debt was £995,000,000,000 (995 billion). In March 2022, after 12 years of the Tories it was £2,365,000,000,000. Two point three six five trillion pounds. So, after 12 years of Tory austerity, what happened to the other £1.4 trillion? And you came at me with a "note".
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Huh? There are so many creepy regulars on GBeebies: Dan Wootton, Nigel Farage, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Michael Fabricant, RIchard Tice, Arlene Foster, Mark Dolan, Lee Anderson, Tom Harwood, Guto Harri, Darren Grimes etc.
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This is what Labour achieved in office 1997-2010
HEALTH
85,000 more nurses
NHS waiting times down 82%
98% of A&E patients seen in 4 hours
Free eye tests for over 60s
Heart disease deaths down 150,000
Cancer deaths down 50,000
Free breast screening for 50-70 year-olds
In-patient waiting lists down 500,000
Created NHS Direct
POVERTY
600,000 children lifted out of poverty
1m pensioners lifted out of poverty
26% increase in child benefit
Introduced winter fuel payments
Made improvements to 1m social homes
Introduced child Tax Credits
Created 3m child trust funds
Free bus travel for over 60s
EMPLOYMENT
Introduced the first minimum wage
Created 1.8m new jobs
Cut long term unemployment by 75%
Doubled the number of apprenticeships
Introduced the right to 24 days holiday
Introduced 2 weeks paternity leave
EDUCATION
Doubled education funding for every pupil
36,000 additional teachers
Added 274,000 teaching assistants
2,200 Sure Start centres
Record literacy
Record numeracy
Free nursery places
Free fruit for 4-6 year-olds
SOCIAL / CULTURAL
Scrapped Section 28
Introduced Civil Partnerships
Banned fox hunting
Free TV licenses to over 75s
Free entry to museums and art galleries
Smoking ban
Olympics and the sporting legacy since destroyed by Tories
SECURITY
Peace in Ireland (building on John Major's work, but still, completed by Labour)
Added 14,000 extra police
Cut crime by 35%
Increased criminal justice (court) spending by 21%
ECONOMY
Longest period of low inflation growth since 1960
Created an independent Bank of England
Wrote off debt for dozens of poor nations
Doubled overseas aid (a better life at home reduces the incentive to migrate to the UK)
Created GiftAid to help charities
MISCELLANEOUS
Introduced devolution for Scotland and Wales
Banned fur farming
Brought the Human Rights Act into UK law
And created the cleanest rivers, beaches, water and air since the industrial revolution
Over to you, Tory fans: create your own list of all the wonderful achievements in the last 14 years.
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@xzenderx Johnson was fired by The Times for inventing a quote from his godfather, the historian Sir Colin Lucas.
Johnson made his name by filing absurd, because largely untrue, reports from Brussels about the apparent iniquities of the European Union.
He entered politics on a lie -- having promised when he took on the editorship of the Spectator magazine that he had no ambitions to become an MP, he did just that.
He lied to his many wives, girlfriends and mistresses. He lied about his children (it is unclear how many he has).
From his first resignation from the Conservative's top team in 2004, after lying to then-party leader Michael Howard about his relationship with the journalist Petronella Wyatt, to his lies this year over the scandal involving parties (not the singular “a bloody petty party” you claim) during the strictest period of the Lockdown, when other Britons were unable to visit dying relatives.
Johnson attempted to rewrite the House of Commons rulebook to save the skin of the obviously compromised Tory MP Owen Paterson for inappropriately lobbying in return for cash.
Johnson lied about Pincher.
There never was an “oven-ready”, he did not "get Brexit done". He lied about the Brexit deal that would bring fabulous opportunity to Britain. The promises in the leave campaign of which Johnson was the main actor and driver – that trade with the EU would continue as before, that Britain could have its cake and eat it, that vast savings on the EU budget would be redirected to public services, notably the NHS – were false. Johnson did what Theresa May thought no British PM would ever do and put a border in the Irish Sea. He lied about it. Then when the lies stopped working proposed breaking the international treaty he had agreed to a mere two years before.
Johnson vaingloriously boasting of his achievements that are nothing of the sort. Johnson proclaims the UK led the world in its response to Covid, which it could not have done within the EU. Wrong. So far 181,000 have died in Britain – a Covid death rate per million above France, Germany, Italy, Spain and most of the EU and caused by being consistently too late to lockdown and too quick to exit – Johnson in thrall to the libertarian wing of the Tory party. No EU rule would have inhibited any UK government from striking the deals it did over vaccine production and for supportive medical equipment. Where Britain did climb new heights has been in breathtaking levels of corruption, as Tory donors and sympathisers had their paths smoothed to lush contracts with no process or accountability.
What of the above is “petty crap and nonsense”?
“Dishonest incidents” does not go anywhere, not even close, to describing what Johnson has done throughout his adult life and time in politics. The real question is why would someone support such a person knowing who he was and then continue to support him as the scandals and examples of incompetence mounted?
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@xzenderx You misunderstood The Boy Who Cried Wolf fable, the meaning of which is to make false claims, with the result that subsequent true claims are disbelieved. Johnson’s case is the nothing like that – people pointed out Johnson was a liar, those claims were known to be true when they were made.
You challenged me to name a single lie. I provided an extensive list, none of which are contestable. You glibly dismissed this as “petty”.
You pompously claimed people “misunderstood” Johnson’s simplistic “Oven Ready Deal” claim. I asked you to explain how. You refused to do so.
You state “in reality they have the legal right to tell the EU to bugger off and sort out the problem”. Why should the EU? It’s the UK’s problem, one of our own creation. You’re a typical Brexiteer in that every issue is someone’s fault. Has a Brexiteer ever taken ownership of the problems Brexit has created?
You then suggest scrapping the NI Protocol and going on WTO agreement, displaying your economic illiteracy. Not even these mediocre fifth rate Tory leadership contenders have suggested trading via the WTO, incurring tariffs, during double digit inflation. It’s the sort of unserious, infantile, damn the consequences policy which sums up the entire Brexit project.
I asked about the NI Protocol as it was one of Johnson’s lies and key to his “oven ready deal”. Brexiteers either don’t understand the implications for NI and the peace process or don’t care. Both is likely to be true.
Are you friends with “Boris” and “Frosty”? You know them well?
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@xzenderx The aim of the lockdowns was (1) prevent the NHS hospitals from being over run, they don't have much spare capacity as it was; (2) to prevent a new virus ripping through the population which had a high mortality rate for older people and people with underlying conditions and (3) buy time for vaccinations and antivirals. How is that controversial?
I agree due to the pandemic and the increased pressures on the NHS, operations, screenings/tests, appointments etc have been delayed and would result in otherwise treatable conditions going undiagnosed, potentially leading to worse health outcomes. I also blame the Tories for this, but for different reasons to you. I blame the Tories for 12 years of ideological austerity underfunding of the NHS, not for pandemic lockdowns.
“Cost of freedom” I like delicious irony of someone who cheered for us to lose our Freedom of Movement (leaving the Single Market), the right for us to work, live, study or retire anywhere in the EU, moaning about being told to stay inside for a few months, wash your hands and wear a face mask "cost freedom."
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@G-ra-ha-m Bowie is the Starman.
Graham is the Dustman.
There are loads of photos of lunar rocks, nearly 400kg were collected. What I'm asking for is an authorative analysis of why the rocks are faked.
The rocks collected from the Moon are extremely old compared to rocks found on Earth, as measured by radiometric dating techniques. They range in age from about 3.2 billion years for the basaltic samples derived from the lunar maria, to about 4.6 billion years for samples derived from the highlands crust. ne important rock found during the Apollo Program is dubbed the Genesis Rock, retrieved by astronauts David Scott and James Irwin during the Apollo 15 mission. This anorthosite rock is composed almost exclusively of the calcium-rich feldspar mineral anorthite, and is believed to be representative of the highland crust. A geochemical component called KREEP was discovered by Apollo 12, which has no known terrestrial counterpart. KREEP and the anorthositic samples have been used to infer that the outer portion of the Moon was once completely molten. Almost all the rocks show evidence of impact process effects. Many samples appear to be pitted with micrometeoroid impact craters, which is never seen on Earth rocks, due to the thick atmosphere. Many show signs of being subjected to high-pressure shock waves that are generated during impact events. Some of the returned samples are of impact melt (materials melted near an impact crater.) All samples returned from the Moon are highly brecciated as a result of being subjected to multiple impact events. Analysis of the composition of the lunar samples supports the giant impact hypothesis, that the Moon was created through impact of a large astronomical body with the Earth.
But go on Dustman, tell me about your dustless rock photos.
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“So I said, so there’s a shark 10 yards away from the boat, 10 yards or here, do I get electrocuted if the boat is sinking? Water goes over the battery, the boat is sinking. Do I stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted, or do I jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted? Because I will tell you, he didn’t know the answer. He said, ‘You know, nobody’s ever asked me that question.” I said, ‘I think it’s a good question.’ I think there’s a lot of electric current coming through that water. But you know what I’d do if there was a shark or you get electrocuted, I’ll take electrocution every single time. I’m not getting near the shark. So we’re going to end that.”
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"Grant rates vary considerably by nationality as the protection requirements of specific nationalities or individuals vary. Of those nationalities that commonly claim asylum in the UK, Libyans (98%) and Syrians (96%) typically have high grant rates at initial decision, while nationals of India (3%), China (19%) and Bangladesh (16%) typically have low grant rates.
Only six nationalities, in the top ten, had a grant rate at initial decision of more than 50%, that is applicants were more likely than not to be granted protection. These six nationalities – Iran, Afghanistan, Eritrea, Vietnam, Sudan and Syria - together accounted for more than one third (36%) of asylum applications."
"Some initial decisions (mainly, but not entirely, refusals) will go on to be appealed. There were 3,663 appeals lodged on initial decisions in the year ending March 2021, of the appeals resolved over the period, 47% were allowed (meaning the applicant successfully overturned the initial decision)."
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"So I said, ‘Let me ask you a question, and [the guy who makes boats in South Carolina] said, ‘Nobody ever asked this question,’ and it must be because of MIT, my relationship to MIT —very smart. He goes, I say, ‘What would happen if the boat sank from its weight? And you’re in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery and the battery is now underwater and there’s a shark that’s approximately 10 yards over there?’
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On the sets of adult movies, there used to be a class of employee belonging to the makeup department, called a fluffer.
The job of the fluffer was to ensure that the male star’s member was fully erect before shooting started. It saved time, and ensured that the male performer was good to go as soon as the cameras began to roll. How the fluffer did this was very much up to the conscience of the individual fluffer, but I’m sure you can imagine.
Fluffers are not much used anymore—not in adult films, anyway.
Instead, fluffers have moved from adult entertainment to the world of what you might call ‘newstainment’.
Nigel Farage is a fluffer.
His job is not to tell the truth, but to stroke his viewers’ opinions in such a way that their generally unfocused sense of grievance rears up, turgid and stiff, so that they can wave it about in public as if it were something to be proud of.
Truth ain’t nothing to do with it.
Nigel Farage just wants to get your blood flowing.
And he was very good at it, wasn’t he? Because you’re dancing to his tune right now.
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@The_Phoenix_Saga Imagine you had a daughter, who was naive, dissatisfied and searching for meaning, a purpose in life. And then imagine your daughter stumbled across a devious, manipulative bad faith actor online. Someone who then befriended your daughter, lured in her in, gained her confidence and then proceeded to slowly, insidiously indoctrinate and brainwash her. Your daughter, being unworldly and lacking critical thinking skills, was taken in by this person. This bad faith actor, who is only using your daughter and cares nothing for her wellbeing or welfare, then persuades your daughter to flee your home, running away to a warzone. Now imagine your daughter is trafficked into the warzone by an asset of a Five Eyes nation's external intelligence agency. Someone who uses their connections to assist your daughter from a safe country into a country experiencing a vicious civil war. How would you want your daughter treated, if she was fortunate enough to survive such an ordeal? A fate her friends did not survive.
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@Jasmine's Video Nostalgia! I'm Australian and am able to vote in UK elections, I'm not sure of the rules around that, maybe you need to be here a certain number of years.
The Tories are now a party dominated by extremists. Their full name is the Conservative and Unionist Party. They don't want to "conserve" anything apart from the wealth of themselves, families, friends and donors, and they seemed determined to destroy the Union, with their hard Brexit, Northern Ireland border issues and the appalling way they deal with Scotland. The self proclaimed party of "law and order" brags about breaking international law, engaged in industrial level corruption, Partygate, has numerous MPs under sexual assault investigations and has defunded all aspects of the criminal justice system. I could go on, but no doubt you know all this already and it makes me ill thinking about these ghouls.
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@Jasmine's Video Nostalgia!
I don't hold citizenship. I came over on a two year working holiday visa, was sponsored by work for a work permit, after five years I got Indefinite Leave to Remain. I could apply for citizenship, but there's no real need. It's expensive and not as desirable as it used to be (post-Brexit and losing Freedom of Movement - as an aside, what sort of nation votes to lose rights?!).
I looked up who can vote in UK elections. It seems I’m able to as I'm "a qualifying Commonwealth citizen is someone who is resident in the UK and who has leave to remain in the UK". You're right - as a US citizen, you'd have to become a UK citizen.
I hope Labour cleans up at the next election, but it's no sure thing, The SNP will likely win almost all the Scottish seats and, as discussed, the distribution of Conservative voters favour them. Also, the right wing, non dom, billionaire baron owned media is the propaganda arm for the Tories, so they are hard to beat. To govern, Labour may need to form a coalition with the Lib Dems and Greens, which may result in voting reform, ie proportional representation. I wish Labour, Lib Dems and the Greens would just have a formal pact to ensure the Tories are defeated, I can't bear the thought of another five years of them in power. If that happened, I'd seriously consider leaving this country, a country which has voted for its own decline.
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The sheer volume of these comments is just staggering, filled with tired, sordid stereotypes, deeply derogatory language, and a level of vitriol that makes you wonder what century we’re living in. This isn’t about political discourse or debate; it’s about tearing down a woman who doesn’t fit some narrow, outdated idea of how women should behave, look, or where they should come from.
It’s truly exhausting, this constant barrage of misogyny disguised as “critique,” and it’s a stark reminder that, despite the progress we’ve made, there are still those who see women - especially working-class women - as nothing more than targets for their own insecurities and frustrations.
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@andyb3522 The British Isles have always had immigration. People move. They have since we left the Rift Valley. From Romans, Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Franks, Angles, Jutes, Celts, Picts, Vikings to Normans.
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Maybe you have a short memory or are just wilfully ignorant. The Labour government was not "awful". A reminder of what was achieved under Blair and Brown from 1997-2010:
Under Blair and Brown 1997-2010:
- the shortest NHS waiting times in history
– three million more operations a year
– over 44,000 more doctors
– 90,000 more nurses
– GPs open into the evenings and at weekends
– free cancer prescriptions
– a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist
– over 100 new hospitals
– the Winter Fuel Allowance
– free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners
– the Pension Credit
– the New Deal for the Unemployed
– full-time rights for part-time workers
– the Social Chapter
– record maternity pay
– for the first time in history the right to paternity leave
– the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years
– the Disability Discrimination Act
– the Racial and Religious Hatred act
– the Equalities Act
– the first black cabinet minister
– the first Muslim minister
– the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box
– civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28 and the right to book into a bed and breakfast
– devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor for London
– the transformation for Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester
– the Human Rights Act
– crime down by a third
– the hand gun ban
– domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half
– more police than ever on our streets
– the world’s first ever Climate Change Act
– beating the Kyoto emissions targets
– the tripling of overseas aid
– the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries
– the ban on cluster bombs
– peace in Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement
– free swimming for kids
– free museum entry
– the right to roam
– banning fox hunting
– the Olympics for London
– half a million children out of poverty
– extended schools
– 42,000 more teachers
– the best ever exam results in schools
– Education Maintenance Allowances
– record numbers of students – and for the first time the majority of students are women
– a doubling of apprenticeships
– a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child
– Sure Start children’s centres
– free nursery places
– and Child Tax Credits
What have the Tories done in 12 years?
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I think you’re labouring under a delusion about Nigel Farage.
On the sets of porn movies, there used to be a class of employee belonging to the makeup department, called a fluffer.
The job of the fluffer was to ensure that the male porn star’s member was fully erect before shooting started. It saved time, and ensured that the male performer was good to go as soon as the cameras began to roll. How the fluffer did this was very much up to the conscience of the individual fluffer, but I’m sure you can imagine.
Fluffers are not much used anymore—not in porn, anyway.
Instead, fluffers have moved from adult entertainment to the world of what you might call ‘newstainment’.
Nigel Farage is a fluffer.
His job is not to tell the truth, but to stroke his viewers’ opinions in such a way that their generally unfocused sense of grievance rears up, turgid and stiff, so that they can wave it about in public as if it were something to be proud of.
Truth ain’t nothing to do with it.
Farage just wants to get your blood flowing.
And he was very good at it, wasn’t he? Because you’re dancing to his tune right now.
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The overwhelming violence and crimes committed in the world is conducted by male homo sapiens. From assaults, murders, rapes and other sexual assaults, to fraud, corruption, theft, cronyism, genocide, war, torture, terrorism, autocrats, ecocide, hunting, cruelty to animals, pollution etc etc. Male homo sapiens are the largest threat to this planet.
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@trytellingthetruth.2068 Blair and Brown didn’t leave the country “broke”. You’re just repeating the Tory and Murdoch's and the other billionaire non dom newspaper owners' propaganda. How old are you? Do you appreciate the significance of the Global Financial Crisis?
There were four recessions and contractions (by year) during Margaret Thatcher’s term alone (1979-90), and three during Major’s (1990-97, including Q4 of 1990), Labour continues to take the blame for the global financial crisis in 2008, even though Labour – as you noted - was at the time pursuing the very “light touch” financial regulation favoured by Tories. The “light touch” is something that Chancellor and later PM Brown said was a mistake.
Another propaganda weapon used against Labour is the post-crash memo written by Treasury Secretary Liam Byrne to his successor, saying: “I’m afraid there is no money.” This added to the perception of Labour’s economic incompetence. Both the Tories and the Liberal Democrats used the memo as an election prop and a reminder that the economy is not safe with Labour. But Byrne’s memo was in reality a practical joke and later a source of personal regret, given its political power.
One thing that almost all macroeconomists agree on is that when recovering from a severe downturn such as 2008 — and with interest rates at nearly zero — the deficit should not be the target of policy. Instead, it should be allowed to expand until the economy has recovered. Eliminating the deficit was the single most important target of the Conservatives’ so-called Long Term Economic Plan. In 2010, Osborne stated that the deficit would be eliminated by 2015. Two years after that deadline passed, the 2017 Conservative manifesto stated that they will ‘aim to’ eliminate the deficit by 2025. Even on their own entirely misguided terms, they have failed completely. When Labour left office in 2010, the UK’s national debt as a percentage of GDP was just under 70%. Instead of eliminating the debt, under the Tories it was risen to over 100% of GDP. Before you cite the pandemic, the debt was 84% of GDP before the pandemic started.
The Tories economic record since 2010 is: stagnant wages and productivity, weak investment and manufacturing, rising household debt, and a large external deficit.
The UK’s credit rating was AAA when Labour left office it is now down to AA-.
You mentioned the Referendum. It is hard to think of a more economically reckless move to call a referendum on Brexit after six years of an austerity program. The resulting devaluation of the pound, lack of investment, decreased trade, capital flight, staff shortages have further weakened a weak economy, leading directly to the current cost of living crisis. The Referendum was not in the national interest – it was to stop right wing Tories defecting to UKIP.
A recent private Treasury attack dossier circulated to critique Labour’s economic policy revealed embarrassing statistics for the Tories, including Labour presided over the last budget surplus, that Labour governments presided over nine budget surpluses compared with just five under Tories, despite the Tories being in government far longer.
By several measures–public sector debt, public sector borrowing, macro-economic stability, and the value of wages and salaries–successive Tory governments have not only failed to perform better than their Labour counterparts, they have usually performed worse. The simple reason is that they disinvest in the real economy in favour of financial markets and give proportional tax breaks to the richest.
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