Comments by "Snuzzle" (@Snuzzled) on "The Humanist Report"
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@Supherodude Puberty blockers are given, at the absolute earliest, at tanner stage 2 of puberty, after the child shows clinically significant distress for at least six months about the changes it is causing to their body, and those changes are deemed to be as a result of gender dysphoria. Clinically significant distress is defined as distress that impacts one's ability to function in their daily life: so the child is having difficulty with schoolwork and homework, doing chores, maybe having difficulty keeping up with hygiene, playing with friends, interacting with family, etc.
If the child has shown this level of distress, and it has been shown to be due to gender dysphoria (which has a set of criteria the child must meet, there are iirc eight criteria and the child must meet at least six of them, one of which is a strong and persistent insistence that they are the other gender) then they will be prescribed puberty blockers. Tanner stage 2 of puberty typically happens around age 12 to 13.
Puberty blockers are entirely reversible. If they change their mind, or things change, or they simply decide they do not want to anymore.... they can go off the blockers and normal natal puberty will resume, with a statistically small effect on things like height or genital size (eg, they might have been 6'4" without blockers based on familial heights, but they'll be 6'2" now with the pause).
The child will typically be on blockers for one or two years, before they will be asked to make a decision about which puberty is best for them. This decision is made with input from the child, a team of medical experts who all are constantly monitoring this child, and the child's parents. The vast majority of children who went on blockers go on to HRT, and do not regret their decision (something like 98 percent don't regret) and that tells me we are filtering out the right people.
Again, if they change their mind, they can stop HRT at any time. If they stop early enough, they will have minimal or perhaps even no permanent changes. Most of the strongest HRT changes don't occur for several months, things like facial hair on T, or breast development on E.
A few 17 year olds have gotten bottom surgery. There are zero recorded cases of anyone younger than that, that I know of. And even these are so rare they make headlines.
A handful of 14 year old trans boys have gotten top surgery. This is a decision between themselves and their doctors, that the breast development is causing them clinically significant distress and is in their best interest to have it removed. Again, this is rare, and is something that we need to let doctors decide. If we simply ban it for folks under a certain age, we are asking vulnerable youths to suffer for years, just marking the calendar day by day and for what? So we can make sure they're sure? Because what if they change their mind? The regret rates are clear: this would cause the majority to suffer because a tiny fractional minority may make a mistake. That's not okay with me.
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@benjaminfranklin8412 No, actually, it's you who doesn't understand. I'm trans and let me assure you, that's not how it works.
Trans kids, and trans adults, don't "have body self hatred." I love my body, there are just certain parts of it that don't belong or aren't quite right. If a person missing a limb gets a prosthetic limb, does that mean they hated their body beforehand? Of course not. If someone with a deviated septum gets rhinoplasty to fix it, does that mean they hated their body? Also no.
Trans kids are being put on puberty blockers and given gender affirming therapy because that's what works. I do not know what you mean by "sęx affirming therapy." Do you mean giving them hormones concordant with their birth sęx, eg, giving a trans girl testosterone? Not only would that not help her gender dysphoria, but it would actually do her harm, because then her body would have too much testosterone. Gender dysphoria, and trans identity, doesn't stem from hormone imbalances. They actually do test for that prior to any kind of medical treatment, believe it or not.
But obviously, you would know all this, since you want to lecture me on how trans affirming health care works. Right?
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@benjaminfranklin8412 I am athiest, I do not have any religious beliefs. Being transgender is supported by science, and this notion that it can be dismissed as a religion is simply absurd.
The earth is indeed not flat, the earth was indeed not created in six days, and male humans are indeed distinct from female humans. However, man and woman are social categories, and always have been, since cultures from around the world and throughout history have had multiple different genders. That is not a religion, friend, that is to do with how humans categorize the natural world.
You cannot simply dismiss any science you do not understand as religion. It will not get you very far in life. When you are presented with facts that shake the foundation of your worldview, you dig in your heels, declare it a religion, and walk away from the conversation. That's what's truly regressive.
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@crispypudding Hi, I'm a registered Democrat. Abortion isn't murder.
There is plenty of evidence that medical transition is the best treatment for transgender people with gender dysphoria. It drastically decreases dysphoria, while increasing quality of life. It reduces all comorbid mental health issues across the board: anxiety, depression, low self esteem, etc.
Nobody is "castrating and mutilating" kids though. Puberty blockers do not castrate children, that's why we've been using them for decades on precocious puberty. And we do have that decades of evidence that they're safe. We've been using them to treat minors with gender dysphoria since the 90s.
Children of course cannot consent. However, their parents consent on their behalf for medical procedures all the time. When kids need an appendectomy, or braces, or any number of surgeries or medical procedures. It's often a tough decision, like putting a child on antipsychotics if they're showing symptoms of schizophrenia. Antipsychotics can have serious side effects, including sęxual dysfunction, but the medical experts weigh these against the benefits and ultimately have to make a decision in the best interest of the patient.
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I'm crying at work now because of Milo. This hurts all my younger brothers, sisters, and siblings who finally thought they could start to feel alive. That hope has now been ripped away from them, cruelly, because of hatred.
An injury to one of us is an injury to all of us.
To Milo, and all the other Milos out there, who are hurting, scared, and hopeless: stay strong. We will get through this together. Take it one day at a time. And if all is lost, and you cannot find any motivation, do it for no other reason than spite. They want you hopeless and dead. Give them hell. 🏳️⚧️
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