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They had peak production but also halted much of the spare parts to increase production. There fuel available for training pilots was minimal and also for sorties. They lost many experienced pilots and were not able to replace them so increased production did not help much. Also the combat effectiveness of the planes declined since they had to use slave labor not skilled workers.
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Well what was the reason? Do you know?
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Indeed the Germans used the ponies when they needed to but a modern army needs much more in supplies tahn an ancient one ad railways are the most efficient.
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The Stalingrad area was serviced only by 3 single track railway lines which were regularly interrupted by air attacks and partisans. Trucks were worn out and fuel scarce. Horses were sent back to winter quarters . By October the 6th Army was receiving less then half its required daily trainloads of supply. The 6th Army would face a hunger catastrophe even if they seized the entire city Fritz Ostkrieg p. 297.
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Aid will come in from the West and and the Germans were trapped and got less and less food fuel and ammunition so the situation is different.
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No there were a number of attacks on the Kletskaya and Serifimovich bridgeheads and none of them eliminated the foothold. It would have taken a very much stronger and sustained attack and even then it might not have succeeded.
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@LokiOdinssnn How come the Germans did not execute the soldiers who killed Soviet citizens on the spot? I don't think they treated raspe any more seriously than civilian massacres.
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They had airdrops but those are unreliable and the Germans lacked fuel to recover the airdrops.
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Yes they could have used them but how long would it take them to get to Stalingrad? That assumes they were sent on their way months ago.
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They sometimes could hold brcause they were dug in and fortified all the buildings the best they could.
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It was about the 23rd to 25th when they started to hear the sounds of battle starting to recede from them they knew the relief was over.
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Yes it would be impossible for the Wehrmacht to get oil in a single campaign. Not only the tremendous flanks but also the distances. They reached Rostov but could not hold it. Maikop is 207 miles (Not Kilometers) from Rostov. and the least of the oil centers. Grozny is 354 miles from Rostov and the big prize Baku is 883 miles from Rostov. To reach these and over the Caucasus in the fall and winter is impossible. If the USSR collapsed it might work but obviously they did not. Rommel had only 3 or 4 German divisions the rest of his troops were Italian. No way that would have made a difference.
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The Romanians would not be interested in fighting in the West. They were out to get Transnistria and Bukovina which they had to cede to the Soviets. They were also promised Soviet territory including Odessa. The Italians and Hungarians were asked to supply men for the Eastern Front by Hitler and they complied. They were not needed in the West in the summer of 1942.
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@mumin7229 There were no unimportant parts to send them to. There were attacks vital for Germany in the Caucasus to get oil. The Soviets were fighting in the center at Rezhv and Hitler wanted to take Leningrad in the North but was unable to do so since the Soviets attacked. There were no quiet places and the Germans needed the axis troops to advance in the South or they would be too short of manpower to carry out the offensive.
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They lost land to the USSR and wanted that back. They were anticommunist and hated the Soviets. Hitler promised them additional land from the USSR including Odessa.
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@keithsledger6282 I don't see how that justifies Hitler
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That is true. You need instructors for US equipment . Also there were US observers.
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They didsince every plane landed brought back wounded. It wouldn't make sense to flu planes empty and the number of planes that made it due to weather flak and the Red Airforce would not be greater if the planes were loaded with supplies. There was little chance each plane could make atrip more than once s day so the number coming out was probably noy going to change.
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What is?
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@greatsouthernplumbinggaswa2255 To give you a little more information the Germans lost 45,033 dead in September 1942 and you can assume 3 times the number of wounded. Obviously fighting is going on in other places along the front. Isaev gives totals of Soviet strengths of divisions. On Sept 25 the 13th guard is down to 6,906. Another figure is the 42nd rifle brigade losses on Sept 17-18 is 153 men killed 308 wounded and 72 missing. You really have to read Glantz , Isaev and others to get the picture since even with all the detail Tik doesn't have time to discuss all the losses mentioned in the various books.
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You can read Island of Fire which covers the Soviet division around the Barrikady factory which was isolated but continued to fight as a unit until the full capture of Stalingrad by the Soviets they were there all the months of fighting and it was quite some time (January 1943) till the Soviets reached them.
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Well as far as the Soviets were concerne3d they were likely to shoot SS members from any country as they identified any SS with atrocities.
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Yes I would agree. Difficulty in the arrival of supplies at the airport might be a contributing factor but not the sole one. Both von Richtophen and Fibbig made it clear from the beginning of the airlift that they could not see how they could deliver even the minimum of supplies. The various factors weather, anti-aircraft flak the Red Airforce and other problems they were aware of were taken into consideration and these problems were even worse than they anticipated. As with most failures there were multiple reasons but it was was very quickly evident from the first few days the airlift was not going to work.
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No
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Milch was not Jewish in any interpretation. He had a jewish father but was raised aChristian. He had no ties to the Jewish community and never considered hmself Jewish in any way.. His mother claimed he was illegitimate to hide his ancestry. He was only Jewish by Nazi racial laws but not by any recognized view of his identity.
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Perhaps perhaps not. Many were near total starvation or sick and the vast majority died within a few months.
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The Luftwaffe had been bringing in supplies since July but it could not have satisfied the army.
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@alanle1471 As I said not in Stalingrad they were on the front line.
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They did not have enough men to do this and also support the attack on Stalingrad. They had to use Romanians, Hungarians and Italians to protect their flanks on the Don rather than German troops
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The Romanians had taken huge casualties and a long time in taking Odessa and the Germans did not have faith in their ability to fight in Stalingrad. Also the Germans did not anticipate such a overwhelming attack at the Don so thought the Romanians could manage
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As to one of your questions it was the Soviets who were doing the attacking at Rzhev and since the attacks were heavy Army Group Center needed reinforcement. Hitler did not use Army Group Center to keep the Soviets busy he wanted to conquer the USSR and the plan was on 3 axis, North, Center and South in1941.
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Yes they knew they were under equipped and did not have the training the Germans had. They saw the weakness and exploited it.
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Excusing the war crimes of the Wehrmacht https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEraxud7vZ4&t=11s
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@coolunicorn2895 Wehrmacht crimes were planned before. There was an agreement to support murder squads in the USSR in March 1941 before any soldier entered the USSR.
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@coolunicorn2895 Your ignorance is showing. The Morgenthau plan did not have anything to to with "killing half the German People". It was about deindustrializing Germany. It did not propose killing anyone. ..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenthau_Plan. The attempt to depopulate the USSR is discussed here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost. You better start reading a lot more on WWII and what the Germans did and planned to do. You keep getting things wrong. I don't know if this is deliberate or you just don't know. If you read the previous information I sent you would be aware of what the Germans actually did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J-xlJgCr2U&t=1s&bpctr=1610225635.
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Indeed they had to send many reinforcements to Rzhev and Hitler sent Manstein and the 11th army to Leningrad. Meanwhile Army Group A was sent to the Caucasus. The Wehrmacht was short of soldiers.
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He would get nothing from the US.
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@postumus77 There are plenty of books on what the Nazis did in the USSR and in Yugoslavia (also Slavs) there is a movie Russian called Come and See. Make some effort on your such as reading wikipedia and exploring the bibliography instead of crying you don't get enough attention.
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There were not enough produced, fuel available and pilots to make a difference. Too little and too late.
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@Clinton Reisig I believe you are wrong. There was active fighting both at Rezehv in the central section and fighting in the North at Leningrad. It was Hitler who sent Manstein and the 11th army to Leningrad. I don't think much of Halder but he needed troops in the center and Hitler wanted Leningrad. Also the German army was definitely short of manpower.
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In some areas he mentioned the Soviets did not advance.
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@cccpredarmy If you are attacked by tanks and promised antitank weapons but they are never delivered it is pretty difficult to stop a tank corps or division. Some Romanian divisions held firm especially General Lascar. See this After the Romanian front was broken at the Battle of Stalingrad, General Lascăr took command of the remains of the Romanian Third Army and kept fighting for 4 days. The only unit under his command that managed to escape encirclement was the battalion led by major Gheorghe Răscănescu. Lascăr was taken prisoner on November 22, 1942, spending the years 1943–1945 in captivity in the Soviet Union.
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See Military History Visualized. He did a couple videos on booty weapons.
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All this information is already available in books. Most from Glantz along with Hayward and Isaev that is where the information comes from.
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@valentine8988 They fought for the Soviet Union not Russia.
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@valentine8988 Evidently you don't know your own history. It was the USSR from 1918 till 1990. Ukrainians, Russians, Kazaks, Tatars and every other nationality fought in the Soviet forces in WWII not just Russians.
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The problem is people think it is accurate history. If they watch it and go on to read real history books thats great. If they think they have an accurate picture of the battle for Stalingrad not good.
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Indee even when it is not justified.
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Not a 400 kilometer breakout in the middle of winter and verging on starvation. The circumstances at Cherkassy was different.
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Yes it was good for it's time but is now sadly outdated.
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