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There was limited fighting in the city but gains by either side was small and considering both sides were very beaten up this is not surprising.
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@johnkkkj I am not guessing. Read Island Of Fire by Jason D Mark who describes the fighting in the city particularly the Barrikady Gun Factory through the German surrender.
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The effect they had was to drive more and people into the partisan organization.
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An excellent book is Joel Hayward Stopped at Stalingrad: The Luftwaffe and Hitler's Defeat in the East 1942-1943
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Battle of the Bulge happened when the Third Reich was on its last legs and there was no way the Germans could stave off defeat whether they were successful or not. Kursk is different but they Germans lost their largest amy at Stalingrad and they did not lose anything like that at Kursk.
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There was a very important factor which is that the Germans had complete air superiority during the the Don battles and the assault on Stalingrad.
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You have to look at the entire front. There was no inactive front. The Germans hoped to take Leningrad but a soviet attack forced them on the defensive and Manstein and the 11th Army could not take the city. In the center the battles at Rzhev were intense and required reinforcements. In the Caucasus there was heavy fighting and oil was the goal. Al this fighting required more German troops so Stalingrad did not get reinforcements.
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@Anthony-jo7up take a look at Dieppe.
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Halderr said and Hitler agreed it would take a week to 10days but Pauklus did not agree and asked for 2 FRESH divisions.
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No they were not. There was a civil war but Greece was never occupied by the Russian.
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What is propaganda? The Germans having supply problems? That is well known by competernt historians and especially German historians.
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no
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The Soviets wanted to be sure the 6th Army was destroyed. They wanted there to be no chance for any troops to escape.
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The Soviets remembered Demyansk when surrounded German divisions escxaped.
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@timobrienwells Please tell us who are the accurate historians of the Russo-German war
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@timobrienwells I have read the same ones and do not see where TIK is wrong in his description of the fighting. Can you supply any specific statements about which he is wrong. I also use Isaev.
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@timobrienwells Wait a minute be specific. All you say is it is completely wrong. If you want to convince anyone you have to supply an argument not just say he is wrong. No one will accept only on your assertion.
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No It would have been very dangerous and risky. The Volga was a very wide river and the Soviets were there in force.
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@dhardy6654 No I am not saying anything about the Artillery. I am saying the Germans had air superiority over Stalingrad and they used that in their attacks before and after they reached the city. The vast majority of Soviet artillery was located on the western bank of the Volga, not in the city. You said the Germans were totally deficient in air power and I pointed out that they had air superiority over Stalingrad.
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They had all the fighting they could manage holding the Soviets off at Rzhev.
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The Germans were in a desperate situation for troops once the 6th Army was no longer able to participate in the south of the USSR. It is obvious Manstein was trying to get any and every soldier he could into the counterattack. Clearly most were tied up in fending off other attacks along the Chir and the ones in the center were fighting in Rzhev. Even the ones in the Caucasus were supposed to get oil but were also in a standstill. Troops in France and the West would take weeks to reach the Stalingrad. The Germans attacked with what hey had but it was hardly likely to be successful.
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It was von Manstein
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Yes but no efforts were made and the lag time for getting oil for Italy would take many many years.
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@jimsackmanbusinesscoaching1344 Well you should ask Mussolini. Why they did nothing is something that is probably due to politics in Italy in the20s and 30s. Where you could find out is something I have no information on.
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This is what I found. Maybe there is more info In 1935 a professor from Milan University who was in charge of a water well drilling program made it a point to watch for petroleum. This was probably more out of academic interest than a serious concern for finding a significant economic resource. A couple of year later petroleum was detected in a water well drilled near Tripoli. This find was enough to prompt a geological survey in Tripolitania. One well was drilled searching for petroleum but none was found. Nevertheless in 1940 a program of exploration was initiated but the available equipment was inadequate to deal with the severe conditions of the Saharan Desert. Shortly thereafter war came to Libya and all exploration stopped. Immediately after World War II the political status of Libya, which had been controlled by Italy, was uncertain. There was no state which could guarantee petroleum exploring companies the rights to what they might find. Therefore no exploration was carried out until after Libya became an independent kingdom in 1951. The new kingdom developed mineral rights law through consultation with the international petroleum companies. In 1953 Libya granted prospecting permits to eleven petroleum companies. Geologic surveys were undertaken by those companies. In 1955 a petroleum well was successfully drilled under desert conditions just across the border in Algeria.
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From 1943 on it was thw Soviets who did the attacking not the Wehrmacht
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He was feeling the pressure. He knew that the US would be involved in the ground war soon which happened in 1942 in North Africa. Also US aid to the USSR and other allies would only increase. He hoped there was a possibility to end the fighting on the Eastern front and be able to concentrate on the West. He had limited time to do this and he tried to rush the operations in response to the time pressure.
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It would be a big problem to transport them to the Easter Front battle lines. Also the British Navy was powerful in the Meditteranean.
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No that muc. The USSR had their own sorces and the US had enough at home and also supplied the UK.
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By the time the Nazis developed the V1 and V2 it was too late. Besides they did not have the range or the accuracy to do much damage to the Soviet army.
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It was the continued battles in the Rhzev that caused the need for replacements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Rzhev
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Well he was there at Yeremenko's headquarters.
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Rather I would say he is a libertarian
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Their troops were not necessarily second rate. They did send in guard divisions.
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@mladenmatosevic4591 I still say they were not 2nd rate troops.
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True there were were major attacks by the Soviets at Rzhev. They sent Manstein and 11th Army to Leningrad. They split Army Group South into A and B to simultaneously attack Stalingrad and the Caucasus when they were supposed to capture or neutralize Stalingrad and THEN go on to the Caucasus.
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@sirtalkalot3211 Cary Black 1 second ago Because Hitler wanted to keep all the conquest he made in Europe and then conquer the USSR. Eventually he could and would turn on the UK or at least turn it into a vassal state. That would be the end of Democracy in Europe. Also it would accept to terror that Germany visited on their conquered peoples. Do you think the Nazis would stop killing if they won the war?
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@sirtalkalot3211 We saw what Nazi Germany did as a fact and the pipe dream of Hitler wanting to peacefully let the UK go nits own way is absurd. It sounds like the propaganda the Germans put out to show how peace loving they were. I think the facts of Nazi Germany speak for themselves regarding the motives and plans of Germany.
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The Germans are fighting in the Rzevh section in the Moscow axis. There are not much manpwoer and supplies to send to Stalingrad and of course the transport of supplies is still quite bad.
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No
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It was real but later tan the time frame of this video.
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Yet they eventually cleared the South and central parts of Stalingrad and had over 90% of the city. This convinced the Germans that the city would fall to them.
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They tried t bring about a quick victory in 1941 but it did not work. Now in 1942 the Germans are fighting off Soviet attacks at Leningrad in the north and Rzhev in the center as well as conducting an offensive at Stalingrad and the Caucasus. The Germans do not have enough troops and are hurting.
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@wazza33racer They still predicted a short war with the USSR. They expected the war to last 12to 16 weeks which meant at the most the organized fighting would end by September 22nd or shortly thereafter. See Richard Evans The Third Reich At War. David Stahel Operation Typhoon and The Battle For Moscow.
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@wazza33racer The point was that if they only attacked in the south they would have a very long flank. The Soviets could attack the flank and with no Soviet soldiers occupied in the north and center they would all attack the flank and cut it making the chances of the Germans being totally cut off from their supplies likely. There was also the danger of the Germans being trapped in a pocket in the Caucasus or elsewhere. It would be e extremely risky or suicidal to let millions of Soviet soldiers free to attack the flanks.
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I agree with much of what you say however I have a somewhat different take. At the conference Halder is way over optimistic as usual and thinks Stalingrad can be taken in 10 days. Hitler agrees because it is just what he wants to hear and von Weichs agrees with his superiors. Paulus is more realistic and does not agree with ten days and says he needs additional troops. He must have agreed that he could take the city or they would have replaced him. The situation is this: the 6th army has taken many losses but they know the 62nd army is probably in worse shape. They haven't gone into the city yet but they know they have pushed the Soviets back in every action and repelled the attacks from north of the Don. Why would they not go into Stalingrad and assume they can take it with hard fighting? Is it likely they would not even try? After 2 weeks they have the south of Stalingrad in their hands. The commitment takes over and the mindset becomes one more push and we will have all of Stalingrad. Now at the end of the first push around Oct 1st is the time when they should have reevaluated and said this is costing us too much and the Soviets have reinforced. We need to take another look but by this time they and Hitler who gave a public speech Sept 30 that Stalingrad would be conquered, are committed.
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There were major Soviet attacks a Rzhev and there was danger of a collapse. Hitler and Halder sent Manstein and the 11th Army to capture Leningrad. Hitler and Halder decided to attack the Caucasus and Stalingrad at the same time splitting their forces when the original plan was to capture or neutralize Stalingrad and THEN attack in the Caucasus.
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They never sent troops that were scheduled to Astrakhan. They were tied up in Stalingrad.
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I believe it is likely that Paulus I can take the city but did not give ant commitment to a particular amount of time it would take. He may have just said if you give me reinforcements I can take Stalingrad. One thing that TIK did not mention along with postponing dealing with the forces of the Soviets north of the Don the war diary of the 6th army (Sept.13, 1941) states the army will have to forego the complete clearing of the SOUTHERN BANK of the Don along the left flank. On the 15th of Sept it was noted FOLLOWING the capture of Stalingrad the army must as quickly as possible attack the area between the Volga and Don to the north and destroy the forces there Isaev p99. In other words they have decided to leave the bridgeheads at Serifimovich and Kletskaya until after conquering Stalingrad. This will have dire consequences in November as the Romanians will be defending those bridgeheads when the counterattack begins.
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