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its because for decades t hat is all the drilled everyone with.
" go to college, you dont want to work a mcjob forever do you?"
Its become a giant scam, jobs that dont require 4 years of education are now asking for 4 year degrees + experience. All that happened was college became defacto required for anything other than manual labor, and even trades are inundated with this nonsense. Thousands and thousands for certificates, licenses, etc. Not saying that having debt isnt a self inflicted wound, and thankfully i wasnt an idiot.
" its unrealistic to be able to support yourself as an adult"
You seem to forget that we are all players in a game where we dont control the rules...
We didnt ask for massively inflated housing prices, we didnt ask for million of immigrants, we didnt ask to allow foreigners to buy up property with manipulated funny money ( china), we didnt ask for manufacturing to be shipped out of the country, we didnt ask to have workers imported to the country, we didnt ask to bail out the banks, we didnt ask to pump more debt currency into the economy, we didnt ask for the government to take a third of our income, we didnt ask for never ending regulations.....
At what point can we start talking about how out of control everything is????
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Jackson Hughes "how odd you keep such a list."
Not really? they usually brag ala spectre or Ignatiev... the best part is the quote about percentage reprenestation was from jsh virtuall ibrary
"It's funny how you guys have all these cut and past lists ready to go. Banker list. Media List, you name it."
Yeah, its almost like pattern recognition or something, IDK man
"Truth is not important to conspiracy nutters"
Hey you know calling me names and dismissing what i said as conspiracy doesnt work when conspiracies exist right?
remember mkultra, northwoods, and Tuskegee?
"There's probably thousands and thousands of nepotism examples, but the conspiracy nuts cherry-pick out the Goldbergs only."
despite being 2% of the population, they are over represented in positions of power and influence, in media, news, government, and advocacy groups... noticing things makes me the bad guy remember?
"We excel at stuff. But sometimes you guys excel too. And when you do, you are no different."
Its almost like bragging, must be a genetic thing ; )
"Replace Mr Goldberg with Mr Whitely 100% and nothing will change. Because it is not a plot."
LOL buddy, this " plot" you refuse to see, has existed long before either of us were born...
"Do you know how European movies and TV are compared to Hollywood.? What you see in America today, the Europeans were doing back in to 1970's. They even laugh at America for being so conservative and prudish. None of your arguments hold water."
What does this have to do with anything? what are you trying to argue here?
"don't think you realize how democracy works. Overrepresentation is not enough. In a democracy, the majority rules."
weird, i thought this was a republic. but more to your point, i wonder who is behind a vast push for non W immigration into W nations? HMMmmm i notice a lot of names that are easy pickings for early life checks... but you know that, because you can look it up. so you are either denying it, or complicit, or maybe you are just that naïve and are just being honest
"If an Eskimo gets a Congressional seat and there are only 100 Eskimos in the entire US, are you going to argue Eskimos have too much power in the legislative branch?"
No, how silly
"I can assure you, a 93% to 7% is a massive landslide in your favor."
2% of the population, but more than double the percentage in most places of influence? seems sus
"You don't know how the Fed works either."
I sure do, END THE FED
"Thanks for the wars."
You can thank the Js for that sht too bucko... EUROPA THE LAST BATTLE,
"OH AND DON'T FORGET TO UPDATE YOUR LISTS."
I will when people stop wishing W's to be made minorities in their own nations, being made debt slaves to international banker clans who have financed every side of nearly every conflict since Napoleon
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Jackson Hughes
"Smarter groups do better, it's just the way it is. Has nothing to do with nepotism, that's a cop-out."
LOL listen to this guy " theres no nepotism" dude, in the list i sent there was a guy who just gave his daughter a position almost as high as his. nope no nepotism there lol
"if a certain group is trying to corrupt a society through control of the media, then why is there no difference with Sony Pictures. Universal, Columbia, Prime, Netflix(the people that gave us Cuties)? You are not explaining this. "
What is there to explain dude? do some early life checks on those involved. surprise yourself, it surprised me at first, now i see it before i even look
"These are huge studios that produce a lot of content."
aaaaand theres still tons of influence from a certain tribe, or friends of the tribe... you can keep denying it, but you can look it all up yourself.. " overrepresentation isnt real" sure buddy, sure...
"If there was a difference, I would consider your point. I would say, why does one group produce good films and the other filth. But they are not different, you are just scapegoating a certain group and ignoring the sins of your own."
Its like you arent even trying to make an argument. why would there be a difference? does a group with an agenda mean nothing else can exist at the same time? liek what are you even tryign to argue dude? whatever it is, it isnt doing very well
"I don't go around saying Mr Whitely is doing this or that. I am just pointing our your hypocrisy.
"Don't point the finger at us, when you do the same."
and there it is
"Congress is about 95% gentile." "there is no over representation
Although Js make up 2 percent of the U.S. population, nearly 7 percent of the new Congress is Jish, with 37 Jews among the total of 535 lawmakers. In the Senate, the 9 Jsh members comprise 9 percent of that body; 28 Js comprise 5 percent of the House. The record was the 1993 Congress, which included 51 Js — nearly 10 percent of the total.
"All wars are banker wars"
yeah,
Top Banks in America
Federal Reserve Jerome Powell
Bro are you even trying?
16th Chair of the Federal Reserve
Jerome Powell
Preceded by Janet Yellen
"Yellen was born on August 13, 1946,[3] to a family of Polish Jewish[4] ancestry in the Bay Ridge neighborhood of New York City's Brooklyn borough,[5] where she also grew up.
Chase Jamie Dimon
well chase bank just rolls right back up to the Rockefellers
Bank of America Brain Moynihan
Citigroup John Dugan
WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN UP TO MR. WHITELY?
honestly bud, your entire argument hinging on " here, see? heres important people who arent Jish" and it kinda falls apart when you look at percentages, and how things actually work.. but i think you already know that
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Jackson Hughes
"If it's a matter of overrepresentation than do you we need Affirmative Action for Mr Whitely?"
Yeah, or we could talk about the nepotism and corruption that comes from it.... oh never mind, thats a conspiracy... oh wait, remember how conspiracy is noun, plural con·spir·a·cies.
the act of conspiring.
an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.
therefore, if a system exists to nepotistically raise up some people over others, would mean that in it self is a conspiracy i guess that means calling something a conspiracy is pretty much not a way to dismiss something...
"It wasn't a matter of overrepresentation, you and others of your ilk think this is a planned plot, a conspiracy by a certain group."
It literally is. they promote themselves, enact movements, and legislation that benefits them and their allies (spoilers, non Js are in on it too), and they do it in front of our faces constantly...
"I gave more than enough examples to show that no matter the group, the outcome is the same."
What? you did no such thing.
"Take CNN, it was started by Ted Turner, and it had different owners over the years, but it was always a mouthpiece for the liberals. So all the evidence shows there is no plot by one group."
yeah ok buddy, its just all the major media companies, most of hollywood, and a large portion of the us government
"Yes, I proved you wrong and you can't even say. Yes, I was wrong. That's a reflection on your character."
Hello kettle, im pot
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Jackson Hughes
"In addition to the positive Jewish role models leading the way to a better future I listed above"
LOL ben " i dont care about the browning of america" shapiro, and prager U are your examples? lol I went ahead and wrote an update for one of your lists.
Open Borders:
Biden
All the Jews Biden has tapped for top roles in his new administration
Times of isreal
Immigration Act of 2007
Immigration Act of 1986
neither of those really matter much considering the act of 1965 i mentioned earlier, more like pouring gas on a fire someone else lit... ALSO, , your entire rebuttal is " here are people not in the tribe doing things you claim tribe do" right, i didnt say they were the only ones doin git. just that they had an over representation of it... its like you are willfully deceitful... interesting tactic
"Only the Trump Administration worked for Border Control. And who was in charge?
Stephen Miller Close border, eliminate federal funds to Sanctuary cities, built wall, stop travel from countries with terror activities."
and trump kissed the wall, and did nothing to stop election nonsense... he is not on my side, he is just controlled opposition
"No wonder you bring up a nobody like Spectre. You have nothing. She is obscure and only talked about multiculturalism. And she didn't mean W, she was referring to Mr Abul. "
nonsense
"See what happens when you live in conspiracy world? You stop caring about the facts"
you really are a joke my dude
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@skitidet4302
"No, that solves nothing, only idiotic commies think that such a system could work."
Lol ok im with you so far
"The way you stop this process is by having powerful institutions like the state"
Aaaand you lost me. the state having power is why we are here. with greater government power comes greater influence.
"If the state, the church or the king is smart and moral it/he will see what is going on and start a purge/inquisition before the merchant class accumulates too much power and influence."
Weird, if only someone tried to do that in the past... HHMMMMM Maybe uncle A was on to something
It's the only way to keep it in check, this is why the Dutch and the British has so much blame for the situation we are in now. They allowed this boil to fester and they served as a bridgehead from which financial power and the liberal logic that goes with it, could corrupt the rest of the world.
Yeahhh but they werent dutch or british, they were a DIFFERENT group of people
"Right, but MY point is they only GOT that rich by BEING corrupt... the system that takes place in is irrelevant when the ones making the rules are the ones benefitting from them."
No, the system does matter. Merchant-corruption does not pay nearly as much in pre-capitalistic systems since the Merchant class will get mercilessly purged if they get too powerful and start threatening the other powers in a healthy system.
What the hell is this even supposed to mean? What healthy system? the one where the same corruption is in the very state, church or kings court?
"Capitalism has everything to do with this, this current system was born of capitalism and capitalism is it's driving force."
So what the hell is capitalism? did capitalism make capitalism? or is capitalism not the system we operate under? which is it?
Remove capitalism and it dies, it's the lifeblood of the current order.
How?
Other systems could never produce an abomination like this because they aren't so insidious.
soooo was weimar germany capitlaism? was the end days of rome capitalism?
"Yeah but YOU attribute that to capitalism, and still existed 50 years ago, while Im trying to articulate that the system has nothing to do with it, the moral corruption comes from this liberal lefty live and let live garbage. you think capitalism is what manipulates social constructs and group think? no, thats the media and Hollywood, i wonder which group of people are over represented in those..."
Capitalism still existed 50 years ago, true, but capitalism dosen't just flip a switch and change everything.
no, its just the idea that you should be rewarded for your labor, and if you can offer a service or product to people freely able to choose products or services to buy.
"It works by being insidious and subtly doing things behind the scenes over time, it has to be like this because the whole system is built on an illusion of freedom."
You keep talking about things that have nothing to do with capitalism, you keep mentioning subversion and insidious tactics, but it isnt the SYSTEM that does this, it is a certain group
If they destroy the illusion they risk losing everything so ofc they would not dare pushing immoral stuff like that until they have sufficiently undermined the morality of their subjects.
this has nothing to do with capitalism and has everything to do with the corruption of culture using media... who owns the media?
Who do you think fund lefty media and Hollywood? Who do you think fund the democratic party? Let me tell you. It's billionaires that run multinational corporations and are part of the small kabal that run this world.
Its like you are so close yet so far. Yes this is a cabal, yes they run international finance, yes they run the world. no this has nothing to do with capitalism
The whole left vs right system is just a scam, both parties are controlled. Politics in a democracy is at best an internal power-game played among the elite, but most of the time it looks like it's just kabuki theater.
riiiight and your solution is more government control/power?
"so religion aside, you seem to miss the part where history IS cyclical, and there is a group of people who are manipulating that. and it has nothing to do with " capitalism""
I fail to understand what you are getting at. Please clarify.
Look we already had someone who tried to kill the international finance system, he was turned into the embodiment of evil, and destroyed nationalism and white identity forever
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@Danb15000 if everyone is something. No one is.
Let me help you
c. 1300, nacioun, "a race of people, large group of people with common ancestry and language," from Old French nacion "birth, rank; descendants, relatives; country, homeland" (12c.) and directly from Latin nationem (nominative natio) "birth, origin; breed, stock, kind, species; race of people, tribe," literally "that which has been born," from natus, past participle of nasci "be born" (Old Latin gnasci), from PIE root gene "give birth, beget," with derivatives referring to procreation and familial and tribal groups
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@vladislavssirins7226
yes..you suppoort all the wars US involved..cos you are not protesting that..
I was in 6th grade when we invaded iraq, what you expect 12/13 year old to understand geopolitics and propaganda enough to protest???
you are more worryied about protests in Russia or China...
the fuck are you talking about?
I hate china, china sucks, everything is made in china and it sucks... HK giving china the middle finger is just a personal enjoyment
you went to Vietnam war,,you sent your boys to die there..hte war started cos of a fake accusations of vietnamese atacked your ship(which didn't happend).how many american citizens died in that war?how many vietnamese? you went to Iraq..and ,again,you lied about WMD...what did you (folk)do about that? nothing again...it is easy way to blame government...so do something about that gov. then/ but no,you better worry about chinese government...china is not going with war to other countries and not killing millions civilians and not destroying and not destabilizing regions on other part of the world,thousands of miles away..US does
Look buddy, china and the US are plenty buddy buddy and thats the entire fucking problem. you think i wanted everything my country gets to be made in china? you think thats fun for me? a guy who likes fixing things living in a world where its easier to buy new cheap shit from china than getting your old reliable stuff fixed?
You think my government cares what the citizens think? what the fuck do you think the propaganda is for?
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@OrdoMallius " What nation can truly claim biological similarity?"
Almost every single nation ever to exist
nation (n.)
c. 1300, nacioun, "a race of people, large group of people with common ancestry and language," from Old French nacion "birth, rank; descendants, relatives; country, homeland" (12c.) and directly from Latin nationem (nominative natio) "birth, origin; breed, stock, kind, species; race of people, tribe," literally "that which has been born," from natus, past participle of nasci "be born" (Old Latin gnasci), from PIE root *gene- "give birth, beget," with derivatives referring to procreation and familial and tribal groups.
The word is used in English in a broad sense, "a race of people an aggregation of persons of the same ethnic family and speaking the same language," and also in the narrower sense, "a political society composed of a government and subjects or citizens and constituting a political unit; an organized community inhabiting a defined territory within which its sovereignty is exercised."
In Middle English it is not easy to distinguish them, but the "political society" sense emerged by 16c., perhaps late 14c. and it has gradually predominated. The older sense is preserved in the application of nation to the native North American peoples (1640s). Nation-building "creation of a new nation" is attested by 1907 (implied in nation-builder). Nation-state "sovereign country the inhabitants of which are united by language, culture, and common descent" is from 1918.
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@SergeiVorobei "how do you know it doesn't work in practice?"
well, you cant legislate the poor out of poverty, most forms of taxation are theft, and wealth distribution will subsidize poor behavior. ( IE taking from the haves and giving to the have nots will only create more have nots)
"Speaking of centralised control over a nation for elite, this is how all governments work."
No it doesn't, government is supposed to be decentralized, hence states have the ability to be separate from other states, and cities and towns do the same. This was to keep power lower in the chain, and closer to the voting citizen... The more federal programs and oversight, the farther out of control they become from the voting citizen
"Centralised control is essential for all sorts of operations under one government."
I dont need the federal government dictating what my state is forced to do.
I dont need my state government dictating what my local town is forced to do
"If you mean obstruction of freedom through centralised government control, then you should be more specific as to extent of freedom and respective degree of violence."
If i dont pay the state their cut of my home value ( taxes) they either take me to jail ( under threat of armed resistance) or seize my home ( IE violently forced to vacate my property)
Where else would you like me to go?
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@robinhood5627
That's not correct what-so-ever.
Oh?
It caused a temporary global dimming effect due to ash and sulphate particulates blanketing the stratosphere. The dimming only lasted for around 5 years with the worst of it dissipating within 1 year.
So the first part is correct, a volcano that caused a years long effect, was again, only temporary.
Human activity has been adding CO2 to the atmosphere since the dawn of coal powered industry and agriculture around 1750. Since that time human population has more than octupled thanks to industry. We are a gargantuan organism that coats the entire planet like a skin. We are the biggest contributor to CO2 in the history of this planet with the only exception being the Siberian traps some 252 million years ago. You are very deluded if you honest believe the whole of humanity has no effect on the atmospheric makeup of this planet. Of course we do! we are pumping out more CO2 each and every day than a volcanic eruption the size of the Tambora eruption put out.
So, " we pump out more c02 every day than the tambora eruption"?
two questions here,
How much c02 was released by that volcano?
and
How much C02 is " we"
You are insane to think this has no effect. All of our science says it does. The IPCC even though it's way off and too conservative says this is devastating, and like I said, it's wrong, it's way way worse.
" even though they are wrong about the data, the point still stands" yeah sure
But believe whatever you like, it doesn't matter either way at this point. The CO2 already exists and the damage is already done, the heating is locked in and no matter what we do we will see no change in that heating.
I mean the warming effect of c02 is limited considering it is such a small part of the overall climate
And we will do nothing, because too many people are as deluded as those in this comment section. So time will prove me right, at least I get the satisfaction of my last words being "I told ya so" with a smug look.
Holy fuck man, how amazing you project your smugness upon me. I love arguing about c02 because it completely ignores and avoids the real pollution problem, but that would require accepting that the US and most of the first world are far better at managing pollution and waste than others.... say india or china
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@robinhood5627
Yes the warming effect of co2 IS limited. It counts for about 40% of total GHGs in the atmosphere.
No
"The most common gases in Earth's atmosphere are nitrogen (78%), oxygen (21%), and argon (0.9%). The next most common gases are carbon dioxide (0.04%)"
carbon dioxide (0.04%)
0.04%
Water Vapour is the biggest GHG and does way more to trap heat than CO2.
right, but theres always a but
BUT the co2 WE have emitted has slowly over almost 300 years warmed the planet enough to cause other GHGs to be emitted, Methane and Nitrogen from over 7000 sources of clathrates in seas, oceans, lakes and rivers around the whole world. More being released from the permafrost in the Arctic.
The seas? you mean the seas we havent explored more than 20% of? you mean the same sea that is also involved in the heating and warming cycles of the earth, but we dont have a precise accounting of its effects, but its TOTALLY bad and going to cause a runaway reaction
I can't be bothered to go into more example but trust me there are dozens, yes CO2 is tiny, but it's built up over the years and it has more of a trigger / accelerant effect causing other things to provide more bulk heating.
Sure, totally, because all the other predictions were so accurate, im sure this one will be too
As for the west being better at waste management, sure we pack it up onto cargo ships, sail it around the globe and give it to indonesia to dump into the ocean. Or did you mean GHGs? if so you need to understand India and China's emissions are largely due to production of crap for the western markets as well as their own massive populations.
But yes they are terrible polluters.
And if we didnt offshore manufacturing things would be made in first world countries with first world pollution requirements. Its not like i wanted it to turn out that way, but here we are, and now the first world nations have to pay billions of dollars for tax credits to save the earth...
My advice stop buying plastic tat and importing it in. But at least you are acknowledging there is a GHG pollution issue, that's a good start.
Stop buying and making shit in china, stop importing pajeets so they stop sending money home, and plant trees... problem solved
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@redrumtm3435
Feeling threatened? Your straw man arguement didn't make a single valid point. I can't just walk into the home you inherited from your father and lay claim to it, yet I could under your flawed way of thinking.
And yet millions of people walk across or fly into the borders of my country, pop a kid out, and voila, they get to stay forever. not sure how thats not an apt comparison
Oh, that's right, you aren't bothered until it effects you.
So this is news to you? being in the self interest of yourself, and your family and community is bad, but unending " sympathy" for the entire world is some kind of moral altruism that makes you feel good about yourself
Ordinary people are suffering all over the world, and all you care about is your own prosperity.
Sooo i should care more about the strangers in the congo, or the entire middle east over my family, my people and my own country? i dont understated your point
You'll soon whine when it's your turn to be replaced - it's already happening to non-white people throughout the Western world, which is why ethnic quotas have been introduced to prevent too many non-whites from developing an anti-mass-immigration sentiment.
What? what is this paragraph even supposed to say? we have quotas to stop mass immigration sentiment? why do we need mass immigration? why are we opining the flood gates to the entire impoverished world? we cant sustain that and you know it.
As always, indigenous Europeans have to suffer so that "diversity'' can flourish; all whilst we see our own diversity disappear. How long is it before blondes, red heads, and blue eyes are non-existent? That isn't diversity, racist.
of course its racist, why cant euros keep the countries they were born into? why do they have to be forced to share with the entire world?
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Martyr4JesusTheChrist yeah, bandwagon, sure, say that all you want while an entire industry suffers from imported labor from on average substandard educations, and often times fraudulent diplomas, certificates and education. mix that with an entire industry built upon the facilitation of this importation, and its becomes clear there serious problems here... pretend that im wrong all you want, but i spent 30-40 hours a week for years with a mostly indian company, so feel free to ignore my anecdotes, but when you are working with a company that has its fingers in every other hospital industry, bank/financial institution,retail chain etc etc, nearly entirely staffed by Indians, you can start to see a serious problem... but i digress,
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@CharlesDarwinHimself
Firstly, you asked " what lies"
how does this end on people killing themselves?
destroying your nation from the inside out, shipping off low skill jobs, while importing skilled labor, all while squeezing your out in favor of various other ethnic advocacy groups, then demonizing you for doing the same. meanwhile, you, as white male, are statistically the only group of people in the country who are a net tax producer, meaning every single other metric are a net tax loss over time. so while at the same time all this is happening, you a re being taxed disproportionately to what you take out of the system. all the while being socially ostracized for speaking out against it
You think the rest of the world has it any better than that?
why does that matter in this context at all? the rest of the world is flooding into white western nations, so of course its not any better, its the fact that everyone else is bleeding into your own nations
Dude you people have it easy.
Yeah ok, sure keep thinking that
Also you just threw a bunch of sentences without proving them.
they arent just a " bunch of sentences" every single one of them is based on an actual lie
I do believe that some of them are lies.
Every single one is a lie
I don't understand however why would someone kill themselves over that?
imagine growing up in a world being told this is how it works, and these are the rules, only to find out as an adult that everything was bullshit, and no one plays by the rules
If you don't work then you'll not have anything that you desire in life.
Even if you work the government takes a third right off the bat, then you spend the rest of your life paying said government hundreds of thousands of dollars every year to give away to foreign nations, import foreigners into your cities and towns, line their own pockets, use homes and other properties as investments, and selling them to foreign investors causing a never ending increase in rent and home values, bombard you with propaganda every day in every facet of your life, every other group but straight white males get legs up in anything they want, from quotas, to lowered standards, to loan programs to tax breaks.
One day you wake up and realize the entire game is rigged against you, and no one cares
You are only proving my point:
not really
you're blaming everything but yourselves, you're saying that people literally END THEIR LIVES because a couple of blacks/browns entered their country or because they have been told that six million jews were killed or that the government uses the MK Ultra?
1965 90% white
2019 65% white
" a few blacks and browns"
why not look into yearly visas? why not look into everything i said? why are you pretending this isnt a massive fucking issue that everyone is ignoring?
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@captainfreedom3649 really? every single one of them? even if its in your country? even if it actually doesnt benefit the people?
I dont know, why not elaborate? you seem to be creating a scenario that doesnt exist to make a point
well they certainly tell more about hk than the yellow vests in france.
So the yellow vests are the good guys and the HK protesters are the bad guys for what reason?
"And do what? let them continue doing what they were already doing?
"
dont know what u mean.
existing as an entity that isnt china?
"so because they are small means they cant have independence from larger groups?
"
not only that, hk has no army. they depend on the PLA to defend them. those capitalist city states like hk and singapur belong to the financal elite anyway.
so i guess the people who were born and live there have no say what goes on in the lands they were born into? seems pretty fucking lame if you ask me
"What genocide are you talking about fam? you sound like you dont even know what you are trying to talk about"
remember when us sanctions crippled Iraq so much that 500 000 children died?
"Initially the UN Security Council imposed stringent economic sanctions on Iraq by adopting and enforcing United Nations Security Council Resolution 661"
Ohhh bad USA, bad, UN good, good UN
do I have to remind you of what madeleine albright said when she was asked wether it was worth it? and lets not forget the two iraq wars, which add even more hundreds of thousands.... how about the bombing of serbia 1999? when they killed like 2000 civillians, and one them freedom bombs even hit a CHINESE EMBASSY. if these aint genocides fam, I dont know what is. lets see when chinas last war was.... it was 40 years ago, against vietnam, and they lost.
Yeah i dont see how thats my problem as i wasnt able to vote then, and im failry certian the US government is now a hostile power, but thats just my opinion living there my whole life... Yeah i totally wanted my government to go bomb sand people in the desert for freedums
did it ever occur to you, that propaganda endorsing the war and enabling my government do do what it did is proving my point that the average us citizen has zero control over the federal government?
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@stevennagy5351
so you think independence is always beneficial for everyone? lets take a look on ukraine, ............it simply became a joke state run by the intl financal mafia who sucked it dry. independence movement isnt always a good thing for the people. dont generalize this, there are always many other factors.
"became a joke state run by the intl financal mafia who sucked it dry."
and what do you think they are doing in the USA? and literally every other country connected to international banking finance.... Id rather die a free man rather than live a slave? i dunno, if they couldnt hack it doesnt mean it shouldnt be done at all ever?
I just mentioned that because it shows on which side the msm stays. just take the opposite of the msm say and it will likely be true. remember what CIA director william casey said: "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false""
Yeah and yet i dont hear much about the yellow vests nor do i hear about these protests in msm, but alright.
by your logic the whole world is pretty fucking lame because almost everywhere people cant just secede from a country.
Ok no it wouldnt, but alright. Sort of the entire point of 'states' but the federal gov doesnt seem to care about that part, so i guess its all fucked
"Ohhh bad USA, bad, UN good, good UN"
oh I almost forgot... looks like murica was fucking innocent all the time... seriously, what....... are you even trying to say? the un is just a tool to legitimize us wars...
Yeah it sucks, what do you want me to do about it?
it worked in 1950 with korea and in 1990 because at the time us had no enemys in the security council anymore.
like they care about permission from the council, looks like they didnt need that in 2003. I wonder on whom you blame that one... it wasnt the un who used all that depleted uranium.
I dunno, my government is in the pocket of international bankers and shit, how is that my fault?
"Yeah i dont see how thats my problem as i wasnt able to vote then"
news flash: no one cares for your vote, they do what is profitable.
funny how they werent actually sand people before the us bombed them: "By the end of the 1970’s Iraq had received an award from UNESCO for its campaign to eradicate illiteracy" the standard of living was pretty high by 1989... yeah... now they are sand people but who wouldnt be after that.
Yeah and islam does wonders to the places it grows, again, how is an out of control government my fault? and if all the governments are corrupt, and all revolution is scripted what the fuckare you even trying to say?
yes of course it did. my only problem is that you were actually defending them by distracting from it, either on purpose or due to ignorance. otherwise you wouldnt say that china meddles everywhere or ignoring all the signs for the hk riots being a color revolution.
If every revolution is a color revolution, what is the solution to ever growing corrupt governments and forceful immigration destroying countries for a small number of financial elites?
I dont know what your issue is
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@skitidet4302
The federal reserve and government intervention
No, it happens because most things/people can be influenced if not outright bought with money. This happens regardless if the rich has a federal reserve or government under their thumb, those institutions just help to expedite the process by giving monied interests more power to influence the system in their favor.
OK so unless you are going to tell me we need a moneyless system, im gonna have to stop you there and say that wont work either.
"You mean the government in bed with corrupt multinationals create legislation that controls market forces and destroys competition? "
Yes, when the rich become powerful enough to outright control governments and other powerful institutions like guilds, unions, churches and the media, all control is lost.
Right, but MY point is they only GOT that rich by BEING corrupt... the system that takes place in is irrelevant when the ones making the rules are the ones benefitting from them.
"From that point on, multinational corporations and the billionaires that run them rule the world, they are the true sovereigns and nation states are just their subjects that has to fight among each-other for scraps. This is the endstate of capitalism that last until the people rise up and take back the world from these scheming exploiters"
Capitalism has nothing to do with this, and this exact thing would happen under any other nonsense system you come up with because the problem is the governments and the power they wield. If you make the rules who cares what system you use?
"What? How does this even make sense in your head?"
Let me give you an example. How do you make more money when the markets are already saturated? You open up a new market! There are plenty of markets that are very profitable just waiting to be exploited, things like prostitution, pornography, drugs and human trafficking and so on, the thing is that those markets are immoral so first they need to erode away morality to open up these markets in order to exploit them for profit. Do you think a virtual meat market like Tinder or onlyfans would have been socially acceptable 50 years ago? NO! That businesses model only became viable once morality has been sufficiently eroded.
Yeah but YOU attribute that to capitalism, and still existed 50 years ago, while Im trying to articulate that the system has nothing to do with it, the moral corruption comes from this liberal lefty live and let live garbage. you think capitalism is what manipulates social constructs and group think? no, thats the media and Hollywood, i wonder which group of people are over represented in those...
"Because " capitalism" to you is the decades of government manipulation of finance and markets, while globalizing and offshoring to keep their power... This has nothing to do with capitalism and everything to do with crony business practices, corrupt governments, and a global clique of internationalists who have zero problems with nation destroying. "
No, you got it backwards, it's not the government doing it, it's just a pawn. The governments are just puppets for international finance system that runs the world. Democracy has always been a scam, it's just a clever way for the oligarchs to set up an oligarchy that masquerades as the will of the people and thus legitimizes their oppressive rule.
The international finance system cant do anything until it manipulated a government in the first place, and by that point its irrelevant... im arguing the same thing, except you call it capitalism, missing the point. " making money" isnt the problem, its " who controls the money, who controls the laws, who controls the media"
"What the hell was that last bit about? doesnt really follow and makes no sense"
I'm talking about religions and how they sorta predicted/foreshadowed all of this. Many religions, especially Indo-European pagan religions believed in cyclical history where the ages would create more wealth than the last but it would corrupt the hearts of men and turn them in to immoral people. It would culminate in a final age called the dark age/the age of iron/Kali Yuga where money, lust, greed, treachery and materialism would completely corrupt the human spirit. Then it would end with an apocalyptic event like Ragnarök or Krishna coming down to earth and purging all the evil so a new era can begin anew once the filth has been burned away.
so religion aside, you seem to miss the part where history IS cyclical, and there is a group of people who are manipulating that. and it has nothing to do with " capitalism"
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@skitidet4302
the " capitalist" cant enslave the state unless the state is already corrupt. how else do these mega nationals get their financial arrangements? favorable legislation
'How would you keep the merchant cast and especially that special ethnic group in check without using state power? I dare you to try to explain that.'
lol cant say that, no way the comment would stay up haha. but you are not going to do this with the state, because the state is already under control. you cant beat them when they control the system used to beat them.
'True, but that group is not our kin so projecting our duties and responsibilities on to them is irrational.'
Right, and they control the levers of the mechanisms that both control legislation, finance, education, media and entertainment industries. Trying to do anything within the confines of their system is always a fruitless effort
'A healthy system is a system in which the powers work together in harmony for the common good of their people, this tend to happen when their interests mostly align'
cant have that with the tribe
'If one of the institutions becomes corrupt and pursues their own interests at the expense of everyone else, it should be purged and if it can't be purged in time it will have the blame at it's feet so it tend to be overthrown eventually. '
Other than watering the tree of liberty none of that will happen, because the media education institutions, etc etc etc can control the perception of reality
'Capitalism is the main force behind the current order. It is what upholds and perpetuates ideologies like liberalism, democracy, globalism, universalism, materialism, humanism, egalitarianism etc because it needs them to survive and grow.'
Yeah still not explaining how capitalism is at fault here... its abundantly clear that " capitalism" means nothing when you control everything else, so blaming capitalism makes no sense
'As for the question of who/what created capitalism, the process has existed since before recorded history when people started trading for profit instead of necessity, but the system only came in to effect when the process of capitalism became a driving force if not the driving force of society.'
You say this as if controlling the perceived reality of the masses has no effect on what drives society...
'That's not capitalism. Capitalism is money making money, that is making money without labor, so literally the opposite of what you are talking about.'
'It has everything to do with Capitalism. The whole system of control and deception is set up by and for the elites that run the capitalist system. You fail to see the mechanics of the system and just blame it on a certain group. Sure that group is very influential and a main player in the capitalist system of control, but that system is so flawed I can criticize it without even bringing up that group.'
And that literally can only happen when you have control over the money supply, the legislation, media, and legal institutions and therefore has nothing to do with capitalism. Words mean nothing when you control the context. what you keep describing literally cannot happen without the tribe
the moral degradation isnt from markets, its from the media industry. You are arguing its capitalism doing this, but its the other way around, its the tribe corrupting and using capitalism as a vehicle. Any amount of free trade will always turn into what you think is capitalism. If i start a business im not going to bust my back for decades unless there is financial incentive for me to do so.
'How did you wake up to the ethnic problem and not understand anything of the main tool/system they used to enslave us?"'
Right, capitalism is a tool, not the problem. we can be enslaved by whatever term or system you want, its still exactly the same. stating " capitalism " is how they gain their power is laughable because that implies that this cabal isnt older than the USA... You think they needed "capitalism" when they instituted the federal reserve? no, they were already there
'It boggles the mind. How do you think they accumulated that power? Foreskin sacrificing blood magic? '
How should i know? this cabal is older than everyone currently running it and they had power well over 200 years ago
'Yes the current system is rotten through and through and should not be given any more power, but the only thing that could prevent this from happening is a strong state to protect it's people. '
Ok, so anything you do while inside said system wont work
'If you tear down the rotten system and do not set up a strong state as a guardian to prevent the system from becoming rotten again, you will soon find yourself knee deep in the same rot again."
Great, obviously, how does one tear down a system when we the people have no means to do so?
So since the hero failed to save the world we should just never try to be heroic again? We should just let the world fall deeper and deeper into darkness because last time we failed? This is insane.
Dont know where you get that from... what is your solution? because " capitalism bad" isnt really an answer
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@KR-mm4el now, i know you are gaslighting/trolling
but as per UN
1. A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and
2. A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:
Killing members of the group
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
endless propaganda, whute guilt indoctrination, forceful integration with endless foreigners, and a denial of attacks on whuites, and an inversion for a peoples right to self determination, and in group preferences is turned into an absolute evil AKA racism and hatred.
so feel free to disagree, but you are wrong
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