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Comments by "ootmaster1" (@ootmaster1) on "The pandemic is ending even if COVID is still here." video.

@Bynming i guess all those cases of totally not covid deaths are just made up stories, and there was no financial incentive for positive diagnosis and treatments, and there was DEFNNTLY no financial incentive for vax companies (you know the ones like J&J and that whole causing cancer thing) at all or anything, yup, just trust the science
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@Bynming 3 million deaths and the numbers are totally legit
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@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475 "Because 2 masks are better than 1. " if one works why need 2? you are a fucking joke dude
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@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475 muh fb posts fuck off with your dishonest bullshittery dude, no one but sheep are buying it
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@Bynming "buying into lies" lol ok
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@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475 "Masks are well proven to prevent COVID spread" so why does fauci recommend wearing 2 masks if they work so well?
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@waylonmercy1533 lol and this jabroni takes whatever the establishment says as fact while doing no cursory investigations into anything on the topic, then gets confused when someone calls out the appeal to authority as the person claiming to be an authority ... massive big brain here
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@waylonmercy1533 "So your explanation is doctors are putting people on ventilators when they don’t need to?" Yes. because that has been what had happened, but dont look into anything and just let the system tell you what they deem as " truth" "Do you have any evidence doctors are murdering people across the country?" Cool, when did i say that? you like putting words in other peoples mouths? or do you just purposefully misinterpret what is said in a dishonest manner? "And if flu/pneumonia deaths were not up in 2020 then what did they really die of?" Cool, when did i say that? you like putting words in other peoples mouths? or do you just purposefully misinterpret what is said in a dishonest manner? "And can you provide evidence doctors across the country were lying about flu deaths?" Yes, you just dismiss it by telling me it didnt happen. we already went through this "flu deaths were not around 80k, 80k is the acceptation not the claim stupid to make considering all the measures taken to prevent the spread of Covid." not even sure what you are attempting to say here, but its probably wrong
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@Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure uh oh, you pointed out that masks dont stop covid because the box said so, his brain will not compute two different " facts" from the establishment lmao
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@waylonmercy1533 "You claim doctors are not doing their jobs correctly but you know how they should be doing their jobs" Wow im not, almost like you keep doing this thing where you misrepresent what i say... "Thinking you know more than you actually do cause you read some bullshit online. Intelligent people don’t do that." he says repeating MSM and establishment talking points with zero self awareness. "Intelligent people read shit online and realize how little they know. " And yet here you are "Also for the second time malpractice accounts for 0 excess deaths." And i didnt say it accounts for excess deaths. re read what i wrote to know what i said "So you’ve yet to deny the 500k excess total deaths from all cause. At most the flu may cause 10k excess deaths. Usually it causes 0 so you’ve yet to put a dent in the figure. Now onto your assertion that ventilators caused 500k excess total deaths. Now since you supplied 0 evidence for your claim. Your claim can be dismissed without evidence. So here’s that 500k excess total deaths figure still waiting on you to explain it. Assertions are not explanations. Don’t worry cause I’ve got the perfect evidence based explanation that actually makes sense " You keep misrepresenting what i say over and over again so this is pointless. you listen and beleive the establishment lines and data, and i dont. you can research these things at your leisure, but you dont want to And you’ve yet to provide evidence for your extraordinary claim that ventilators were responsible for and you have done nothing but parrot establishment talking points while being oblivious to what " appeal to authority" means
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@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475 "You're ignorant of facts." False "Masks work extremely well." False You just don't understand why, so claim you are an authority" False (You're not, btw. You're 100% incorrect. You're nit a professional, not a doctor. Takes one to know one). You are clearly someone who cant read
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@waylonmercy1533 "Flu and pneumonia deaths were up in 2020." Said by the same people who have been lying since last year? ok "So tell me how classifying flu deaths as Covid would cause 500k more total deaths in 2020 than previous years? " Again, not what i was saying at all, but ok... with over 250k malpractice deaths each year, id wager a significant uptick in the last year (with ventilators causing more damage than help, and nursing home deaths) could be explained without resorting to covid "Flu only kills 40k people a year on average. And rarely causes excess deaths. Yet there were 500k excess deaths." Well 40 average doesnt mean only 40, weve had 80+ from flu. and not JUST flu is related as covid, and not all deaths are the same. you keep trusting the same institutions that lie to you time and time again.
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@waylonmercy1533 @ootmaster1 "if masks don’t work dumbass tell me why it’s harder to blow out a candle with one on?" If masks work, why can i smell through them? you know how the sense of scent works right? are you this dense? "then explain the 17% spike in death rate. Keep in mind motor cycle deaths and cancer deaths cause 0 excess deaths. So saying “doctors are calling cancer deaths Covid deaths” doesn’t address the 17% spike in death rate." Jesus christ dude its like you arent listening to what is being said and keep regurgitating talking points you dont fully understand
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@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475 "selfishly spreading the virus" oh fuck off
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@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475 do you have brain damage? you realize viral particles and transmission are a different mechanism than heat retention right??? you arent just havin a giggle right?
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@waylonmercy1533 "provide evidence ventilators are responsible for excess deaths rather than saving lives??" AKA spoon feed me because actually researching things against the status quo seems hard, no thanks, youtube deletes most links anyway "500k excess deaths in 2020 and this dumbass is claiming ventilators are responsible." No this is you either willfully misrepresenting what i said, or strawmaninng "You understand people are put on ventilators when it’s very likely they will die without one right?" And all i was saying many people were put on ventilators shouldnt have been, and it caused more harm than good, YOU are the one putting words in my mouth "You may not be claiming doctors are murdering people but you are claiming they’re committing manslaughter. So do you have any evidence?" Im stating that both a quarter of a million people die a year due to medical faults, and that financially incentivizing ventilators may have had an adverse affect
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@waylonmercy1533 "dumbass the box says it won’t protect the wearer. Lmao you sheep and your fake bullshit" then why the fuck are we all wearing them constantly?
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@waylonmercy1533 video of people sneezing with masks on so instead of what normal people do, and sneeze into their elbows, or away from people, we have government mandates to force everyone to wear face coverings regardless of which type and expect the average person to also have the brain power to wear them constantly, and at which point, it doesnt protect the wearer, so what is the point again? oh right, social conditioning
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@waylonmercy1533 how are you protecting others if they dont work to protect oneself? what is the point?
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@waylonmercy1533 its almost like you arent even trying to read what im saying with hoe much you put words in my mouth...
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@waylonmercy1533 the entire point of what i said was if masks work why do they explicitly state they do not prevent the spread of diseases. if they work, why are there so many cases where people get it while wearing the mask? could it be there are other methods of transmission other than your mouth and nose? your arrogance on the topic is very telling
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@waylonmercy1533 "Just because I’m saying what the main stream media is saying does not me what I’m saying is false nor does it mean I’m getting my information from the main stream media" yes, yes it does "If you’re not seeing ventilators are responsible for the 500,000 excess deaths then what are you saying?" Read what i wrote insted of the words you put there " still yet to explain why they were 500,000 excess total deaths in 2020 so get to it or shut the fuck up" because there is no answer other than people dying, the only argument is why and how... mostly because you cant read
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@waylonmercy1533 look buddy if you keep being dishonest no one is going to bother
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@waylonmercy1533 muh flat earfh
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@waylonmercy1533 lol ok dude you clearly havent been reading what i type yet continue to insult me
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@dxtrish he also said on record that fauci is a fraud
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@waylonmercy1533 so you are telling me the death counts, and positive case totals are airtight and there is no discrepancies with defining them? ive been following this nonsense since dec of last year... "ou’re saying people are inventing people that didn’t exist abd saying they died of Covid" No, im not, and you keep saying things ive not claimed.. Im claiming that a 300lb guy who dies of heart complications is listed as a covid death or the guy who died in a car accident listed as a covid death, or terminal hospital patients listed as covid deaths.. Are you denying the financial incentive to listed covid? or the incentive to put people on ventilators?
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@waylonmercy1533 ok thanks for not reading what i said
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@waylonmercy1533 when you can read and comprehend ill try again
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@waylonmercy1533 naw dude i spoke quite clearly. You have an issue here that has nothing to do with me or what i said...
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@waylonmercy1533 "i cant read so im going to project my ineptitude on others" Thanks bro, means alot
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@waylonmercy1533 you keep demanding i answer for shit i never said. Its dishonest as fck
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@waylonmercy1533 you clearly have some personal issues you need to work out before you can have normal conversations with people
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@waylonmercy1533 jesus christ dude your ego must barely fit through a doorway. Maybe if you learned how to read instead of doubling down on your arrogance you would know exactly what im talking about...
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@waylonmercy1533 my point was you said the numbers were "airtight" i gave examples of them clearly not being "airtight". Like ventilators and classification problems like the death examples. But you kept insisting i defend something i never said.... But here we are....
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@waylonmercy1533 "never said the numbers were airtight" Yes you did. I literally quoted it from you. "Numbers are as airtight as " implying they are as accurate other forms of death. Then i brought up discrepancies, and you deny them. Then here we are you denying what you said earlier while projecting onto me....
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@waylonmercy1533 no im claiming some deaths are misatributed and most of the other numbers being used are innacurate. Stop putting words in my mouth
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Lol
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Rent free
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@isakjones5836 you dont have to buy into the great reset. They arw doing it without you. They tell you blatantly what they plan to do and you just assume hes making it up? Lol
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@dxtrish lol ok bud
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@waylonmercy1533 uh huh
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@waylonmercy1533 yeah sure. "Evidence" like data run through institutions that are impervious to corruption or misinformation...
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@waylonmercy1533 didnt say i thought any of that. But good on you.
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@waylonmercy1533 prove what? Institutionalized corruption? Lol if i could do that we wouldnt be having this discussion. But pretending its not there is intellectually dishonest...
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@waylonmercy1533 "case counts don’t matter." They absolutely DO matter when they are used as the foundation of draconian mandates, but OK... "We are talking about deaths. And I’m saying death counts are as air tight as you would say they’re air tight for heart disease, cancer, pneumonia etc. " Sure they are bud, sure "And I didn’t say you said doctors are invented people and saying they’re dying. I said you have to be saying that cause the “doctors putting Covid on the death certificate when it’s not COVID” argument is debunked by the 500k excess total deaths from all causes figure. Its like you arent even listening ... " deboonked' yeah sure bud, im sure the terminal stage 4 cancer patient died totally because of covid, or the guy who was killed in a motorcycle crash, or any other example of " air tight" deaths... you dont look into anything and you just regurgitate what is said to you like a good lemming. you cant even fathom the difference between " died OF covid" and " died WITH covid" "The only conspiracy theory you have left is to claim doctors are inventing people that don’t exist. When I said that I figured you’d know your argument was debunked by that 500k figure." No, its clear you have no idea what you are actually trying to tell me because it makes zero sense and relies solely on you not understanding what im trying to say to you. "This is elementary deductive reasoning. If an average of 2.8 million people die a year from 2015-2019. And then 3.3 million die in 2020." Uh huh sure, im totally sure all those records are squeaky clean and there is no book cooking to keep up the façade. Im sure you have faith in world wide numbers being accurate, but i dont "Doctors can’t be doing what you’re describing on grand scale if there were 500k excess total deaths in 2020" This doesnt do anything to prove they couldnt have done this... "If they were the 500k figure would mean any overcounted Covid deaths are being offset by undercounted Covid deaths. For example in April 2020. Pneumonia and flu deaths spiked in that month. " Where did pneumonia deaths spike in april? more data from the same CDC that flipped flopped from January of last year to today? "We know a lot of those were Covid deaths because flu and pneumonia doesn’t spike in April." Yea just like we know its covid from a pcr test? "Tell me how doctors can be misclassifying Covid deaths on a grand scale when all other causes of death were up 90k in 2020?" I did tell you , you just keep telling me it isnt real, didnt happen, has been deboonked, and only recite the establishment lines to defend your point without doing any actual research into it yourself. youll just call me a liar "How can they be doing this when there was the largest spike in total deaths from 2019-2020 in the US in a hundred years?" Very easily with a nation filled with people like you. "How can they be doing this if the death rate jumped 17% in one year? In short if doctors were doing what you’re saying there wouldn’t be 3.3 million dead people in the US in 2029. There would be 2.9 million at most. What the hell are you even trying to say here? we arent in 2029? "And btw “incentives” aka a motive to lie." Is not evidence a lie occurred. It’s just you projecting. It’s you saying you would lie and do shit like that this is not a lie, YOU are a liar... Its literally right out in the open for you to look at, but if its not coming from the CDC you wont believe anything apparently. You tell me its a lie, but then you also tell me that it isnt evidence of a lie? do you just like listening to yourself talk?
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@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475 "Masks reduced spread of flu to negligible levels." no they dont, but go off
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@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475 sure thing, just appeal to authority on something you know nothing about keep wearing your face diaper all you want, its about as useful as airport security
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@waylonmercy1533 jesus christ dude you have problems
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@waylonmercy1533 i literally quote you, and you still slither out of it dishonest as fck dude
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@waylonmercy1533 "I said “as air tight as other causes of death” since other causes are not air tight thats me literally saying it’s not air tight. But other causes are not either so you really don’t have a point." so then why did you dismiss what i said about non covid deaths being labeled as covid deaths? "First thing dishonest people do is accuse the other side of being dishonest the moment their dishonesty is brought to light. Prime example right now. Why the fuck are we even talking about this? If I said Covid was air tight I’ve already explained that’s not what I meant. You’re making a moot Point to distract away from the main point that you don’t have an explanation for the 500k excess deaths." This entire paragraph is solid projection... 500k deaths is the talking point YOU brought up, and keep demanding i "explain" these deaths... Im arguing that the DATA ITSELF is defective, so YOUR point of " 500k excess deaths" is a meaningless talking point, as it has nothing to do with what im talking about... but im sure you knew that..... "and not I don’t you do in point of fact." What?????? "You’re a conspiracy theorist." Lol first off, a meaningless term, mostly used to discredit outright, and conflate with lunacy to make it seem crazy... im sure next thing youll do is compare it to flat earth.... oh wait... "the establishment say the earth is the shape of a sphere so you must not believe the earth is the shape of a sphere then because that’s what they’re saying?" Seems you already did that.... "That’s a problem. You also think you know more than the massive majority of doctors." No, i dont, but please tell me more about what i know and dont know "Thats good evidence of low intelligence" Projection "You’re making claims you have no evidence for" Everything i have said can be looked into independently, but please, go on and tell me how you totally didnt just dismiss what i said because you want to be spoon fed? "Explain these 500k excess deaths. If you don’t in your next reply. That means you’re wrong" Why am i trying to explain something i never said? My explanation is everything you have been ignoring, that the data is faulty. how am i suppose to " explain 500k" excess deaths? what sort of answer do you require that i havent already stated? what is your deal man?
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@waylonmercy1533 "I dismissed the “mislabeling of Covid deaths” argument because 500k excess total deaths from all causes debunks it." No it doesnt, but ok "It’s also debunked by the fact all other causes of death were up from previous years. So that argument is debunked." How is it debooonked? "Now you claim the 500k excess death figure is defective. Ok then I said. The only way it would be defective is if doctors across the country, county health boards, states health departments and the CDC invented deaths that did not exist and saying they died. " to be fair, my " claim" the entire time was the numbers are bogus. I did point out there were cases all over the country of miscounted " covid" deaths. You dismissed them. YOU keep talking about excess deaths like it means anything. Its just a talking point you repeat because you hear the establishment stating it. You call me a conspiracy theorist like governments, the medical industry, and the media dont lie regularly
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@waylonmercy1533 I mean my argument isnt " nuh uh" but ok... Even if the excess deaths were still an accurate number, death counts for covid can still be wrong. So no, the deaths existing doesnt debunk mislabeled deaths "For example if heart attack deaths deaths are being called Covid deaths. Why are heart attack deaths way up when they should be way down?" Because its not every heart attack being called covid? why would heart attacks be down in a country with the most overweight people on the planet? "someone lied before therefor they lied again” is a logical fallacy" Which one? Because when people regularly lie to me, i assume that other things they say will also ben lies. remember when they said MK ultra was a conspiracy? or operation northwoods? or the tuskagee experiment? or any other of a number of times conspiracies were true, and government and otehr institituions were lying... but pelase, keep trusting these same people "You’re still not telling me how they fudged the total death numbers? How are they doing this if they’re not inventing people that didn’t exist abd saying they’re dying when you said you weren’t claiming this?" Im not saying the fudged total death numbers. you keep doing this thing where you ask questions based on things you assume im saying, or other such manners of possibly intentionally not understanding what im saying. Im saying the numbers are bullshit and covid deaths are missatributed. again, things i wrote, not things you wrote are what im talking about here.
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@waylonmercy1533 well those were deleted pretty fast
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@waylonmercy1533 Heart attacks would be down because you say they’re being called Covid deaths." "you say" Its almost like you are incapable of being honest when conversing... "We didn’t just get obese in a year. Lmfao your ass has no understanding of statistics and a natural progression." And you have a lack of understanding of the English language with how often you put words in my mouth and deliberately misrepresent what i say, but ad-homs arent really important here... "Were we not an obese country in 2019 but were in 2020? Lmfao" Oh yeah i totally said that, and or that can totally be implied by what i did say in an honest and genuine manner... "Your argument make no sense" Probably because you either dont understand what im saying, or you are deliberately misunderstanding it... "You say they’re misattributing Covid deaths." Yes, this part i did say "If they were doing that there wouldn’t have been 500k excess total deaths from all causes" Yeah no, that doesnt really follow... "Heart attack deaths, strokes, diabetes, would all be down." No they wouldnt? why would they be down? "Yet they’re up. You’re literally saying Covid is taking from those death totals are WAYYYY UP. When you subtract from a number t goes down not up. So if you’re subtracting from heart attack deaths how are heart attack deaths way up in an unnatural way? It’s not a natural progression." First off, this entire hypothetical is based off of the understanding that the numbers given to us are accurate, which i have pointed out they are not. "People didn’t just get obese in one year. That’s incredibly stupid to think that. Dude you’re just not a very smart person. You’re suffering from the Dunning/Kruger effect so you can’t tell that you’re not a very smart person. " Yeah crazy how i totally said that and TOTALLY wasnt implying that having a large aging unhealthy population is TOTALLY in NO WAY going to result in higher than average deaths. Hey you think that maybe suicides deaths of despair, alcohol deaths, medical mistreatments and other effects of lockdowns may have contributed to the death rate? you think throwing covid patients in nursing homes might bump up some numbers? Why do you insist on being so dishonest with every reply? each soaked with arrogance and a pompous attitude, sprinkled in with ad-homs.. "Ya people the population were obese in 2020 but not 2019, 2018,2017. They just got fat in 2020" Yeah this is probably your saddest excuse for a strawman ive seen yet... and you STILL pretend to be honest...
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@waylonmercy1533 " we just got really fat this year" or an aging population with a never ending influx of total population combined with multiple other factors can explain how we still have more deaths than last year
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@waylonmercy1533 posting links on youtube is a pointless endeavor
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@waylonmercy1533 "now youre claiming" dude stop doing this fucking shit, its dishonest as fuck and im sick of it
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@waylonmercy1533 "then why wasn’t there a normal increase in deaths instead of a historic increase In deaths?" What about anything in the last 2 years has been normal? also, what is " normal" increase, also, this all falling under the presupposition that any of this data is accurate "Also why weren’t we an aging obese population in 2015, 16, 17 , 18 and 19?" We did? we still do? And what do you mean numbers are being used in inaccurately? " being used in inaccurately" doesnt make sense im going to assume that its supposed to be "the numbers used are inaccurate" "Type the title of the article and I will find it" you cant even be bothered to look into anything i said earlier so what would be the point?
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@waylonmercy1533 "a normal increase is what’s occurred over the last 100 years prior to 2020." Ok, but in infinite number of things has happened in a hundred years for any increase to be considered normal... "So why wasn’t there a normal death increase? Offer and explanation. Not an assertion." What are you talking about? im literally disagreeing with the data being presented, and the idea of wha ta " normal" death increase is, and you want me to answer a question inside those parameters that i dont even agree with? why? Nothing i have said has ever sufficiently satisfied your questions since we started this conversation.. "You know all of this is easily explained by Covid 19. Actually makes sense" Sure it does a virus so dangerous and so deadly you have to lock the world down for a year, force everyone to wear masks and vet a vax foe something that has a fatality rate of less than .05%? so deadly that you have to shut down discussion and place warming labels on youtube videos? and the establishment is so legit that when professionals who disagree with the narrative come out, they are silenced. But ok listen and believe, trust the same people who have spend decades lying to the public, because they cant lie ALL the time right? How are total death numbers inaccurate? I already answered this and explained it above. you are free to research the topics yourself, but its clear from your attitude you will do no such thing.. Why did an aging and obese population not cause deaths to spike in the 10 years prior to 2020. Because not everyone dies at the same time? because we have had an exponentially increasing population for over 50 years? "Jesus Christ you’re dumb. I think there might be something mentally wrong with you. If so I apologize" Honestly, GFYS, you have such un earned arrogance, and an attitude that needs a reality check
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@waylonmercy1533 "none of that is an explanation btw. Those are assertions with no explanatory power. " Because i disagree with the basis of the terms used in the question, no answer i ever give will satisfy you "are you saying" No, im not, stop doing that its dishonest and irritating "Why did our population increase so much in 2020 and not 15,16,17,18, or 19?" Again, i disagree with the basis of the terms used in the question, no answer i ever give will satisfy you. The government cant even accurately track illegal immigrants or welfare fraud, and you expect them to have accurate and useful population data? No answer i give to your questions will satisfy you "You said people don’t die at the same time then Why did so many more people die in 2020 and not in 15,16,17,18 or 19?" "you said" No i didnt, and stop... ffs "And it’s a 2-3% death rate not .5%." Pretty sure its not, but whatever you say man "Why are you arguing statistics when you don’t have a basic understanding?" The same reason you are arguing here and repeating yourself? lack of understanding? "you’re displaying great differences between between a skeptical scientific mindset and a paranoid conspiracy theorists mindset" No im not, but sure "YouTube censoring certain things one can logically conclude they’re censoring misinformation" Lmfao and why would one logically assume that? its a laughable assumption "While the conspiracy theorist would jump to the illogical conclusion that they’re “censoring the truth”. There is no logical reason to come to that conclusion" there is no reason? how is there no reason? "Paranoid people like you see evidence where none exists" So you see what i see? interesting... can you read my mind too? this is such a laughable assertion "YouTube censoring or not is evidence absolutely nothing." Its evidence of youtube censoring things "And this is where education comes into play. You need to learn what good evidence is and what is not." Ok, well you can trust your authority all you want. the government, media, pharma and medical industry have never lied to protect self interests ever...
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@waylonmercy1533 "Dishonest dodging of the question. Yes. A new cause of death or something unpredictable. A terrorist attack pehams. All of these things cause excess deaths. IIf I would asked this question i could easily answer it." how is it dishonest? i disagree with the numbers so asking me for evidence of causes of excess death is a meaningless question because i disagree with the terms IN said question ... the only thing dishonest here is you "your saying" Again, what part of stop this shit is so hard for you to grasp? are you doing this shit intentionally for a rise out of people in youtube comment sections? "So why this year and not years past? I gave you " assumptions" and you didnt like them, now you are asking me the same question over and over again because you already disqualified anything id say as an answer... Which is why I know total deaths don't jump like they did and unless something catastrophic happens. i disagree with " a jump" because i disagree with the total death counts, and i disagree with anything that comes out of the CDC or faucis mouth. "YOu're jumping to conclusions that don't logically follow. Like thinking youtube censoring people is evidence of anything. It's factually not." except when its a pattern of behavior exhibited by youtube and other large media outlets for YEARS, but i guess that doesnt happen. "Occams Razor and I have no evidence to assume otherwise." so occams razor huh? which side of " the government is probably lying" side of that razor? "But you've provided no evidence of any of your claims so far." Because im going to be lazier than you, and tell you you can easily search up any single thing i said in thie comment chain, but YOU STILL HAVENT because you are dishonest.. but i dont care really, this is more entertainment than education "Its not about Trust. Its about critical thought., weighing the odds, viewing the evidence and applying occams razor" Yeah, and im doing that pretty well, turns out assuming the government, the media, pharmaceutical/healthcare industries, and establishment talking heads have an agenda, and that they usually lie about it until they get caught later... "So I'm still waiting on you to give me an explanation for the historic spike in total deaths in 2020. Mine is Covid19 and pandemic related deaths" And mine was a multitude of things you just dismissed as assumptions, i guess the bit about the old folks homes whizzed right over your head "I've not the numbers and data to back me up" debatable "Lets go over the evidence so far. We have 500k Excess deaths" again, debatable "Covid explains this" Or maybe, its just a flu thats slightly worse than the flu, like weve had before, where there is an out of the ordinary death rate, and people with preexisting conditions, elderly, or unwell were worse off than healthy young people? maybe " 500k excess deaths" isnt actually 500k excess deaths and its a statistical talking point that you have not been able to stop repeating regardless of any argument against the validity of the numbers in question... "You don't have an explanation for this but to assert "immigration, people suddenly got fat, people suddenly got old." No, immigration was a point on how unable the government is at doing simple jobs, the old and fat is a point to how old and fat people are unwell and getting sick doesnt help? "These things you claim didn't happen in previous years but coincidentally happened during a year a pandemic was said to be occurring. Its amazing that these "conspirators" knew deaths were going to sky rocket in 2020. Absolutely amazing. " Its like you are incapable of understanding what im trying to say to you... truly amazing.. i guess instead of a slightly worse than average flu season its a super scary new virus that we have to cripple the economy, propagandize the population into arbitrary guidelines and mandates (that politicians, talking heads type people ignore them when not on public camera) while pushing new untested vaxs from companies who have been caught doing terrible things ( J&J with the talc years ago) "We have all this data and evidence from across the country." Who is this "we"? the inept government? But some random guy who doesn't understand basic addition and subtraction on youtube debunked all of it by going "nuhhh uhh fake". Imagine being this much of a dishonest fck you continue to throw petty insults like some child... You can strut around pretending to be the intellectual superior here, but its clearly an act
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@waylonmercy1533 so answer me this, are you actually trying to have a discussion here? or are you just shitposting
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@waylonmercy1533 "It’s debate." well you are doing a great job showing everyone how dishonest you are... "It’s not for you though it’s for those reading comments who are on the fence. You don’t change your mind no matter what." I mean i could say the same for you "There was a historic spike in deaths" This is the point of contention. You trust the establishment figures, i dont. this is the crux of the issue that you keep glossing over. "You have no explanation" I do, you just dismissed it "I do." Your explanation is the establishment narrative which isnt exactly trustworthy or accurate, yet here you are touting what they say as gospel "You’re only response is to make assertions and try claiming that it’s just a coincidence total deaths are way up when there is a “fake pandemic” going on." Your only response is to misrepresent my points, put words in my mouth, and insult me. "These conspirators sure were lucky a once in 100 year spike in deaths occurs exactly when they’re enacting a “fake pandemic”" Wow its almost like what you are saying has no bearing ion what i said, because you misrepresent it so easily... "Objectively speaking. Do you not see how stupid that sounds? Cause that’s what you think" Wow you did it again, you assume what i think and misrepresent my points to make a beautiful idiot of a strawman for you to attack, good for you "how are total deaths wrong?" The numbers are inaccurate and the establishment is lying.... your question is impossible to answer the way you word it but thats intentional. I cant explain something that i have its doubts of its authenticity, but you have no problem running on the assumption that these people wont lie to you "Remember you said you’re not claiming they’re inventing deaths so how are total deaths numbers wrong? How many times to i have to repeat myself to you? the numbers are inaccurate "What’s there to disagree with. There were 3.4 million total deaths in 2020 if they’re inventing deaths how are they getting them wrong?" You dont listen so asking the same questions is a pointless endeavor
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@waylonmercy1533 you really are a piece of work..... "so to sum up your reply. Nuhhh uhhh establishment. Nuhhhbuhhh numbers are wrong" You know there were other words involved there right? like i was making coherent points and you were ignoring them and asking the same question i just answered "But you’re being dishonest and are not telling me how the numbers are wrong?" no, i said plenty, YOU are being dishonest and disregarding everything i said because you are a dishonest person who clearly has some issues they need to deal with "There’s only one way they could be wrong. And that’s if they’re inventing deaths that did not happen and doctors across the country are in on this scheme" Or, the numbers are wrong and the government lies to you... "Then you say you’re not claiming that. Ok then you’re saying the total deaths numbers are correct than cause that’s the only way the could be wrong?" Yes i literally said this multiple times, yet you seem to be incapable of actually comprehending what i wrote... "So what is it? Mr honesty who can’t answer simple questions?" Buddy ive answered every single question you asked, YOU are the one disregarding the answers and asking teh same question over and over again while constantly misrepresenting what i say and putting words in my mouth, all while insulting me repeatedly ... and you expect to be taken seriously?? "And I’m not a moron like you" Wow such massive intellect here You’re saying total death numbers are wrong. But they’re not inventing deaths cause you said over and over you’re not claiming that. So that would mean they’re undercounting total deaths. But that would mean the historical spike in deaths is even worse. you keep referring to " historical spike" like it means anything if the numbers in question are junk... but you dont actually care... "My 5 year old could say “they’re inaccurate” over and over. It literally takes no thought or intelligence to say this. So how are they inaccurate." Learn to read, and read what i wrote. this is a stupid fcking game you keep playing "And I’m not a simpleton like you I don’t just “trust the establishment” like you trust random conspiracy theorists." Right, you are a pseduo intellectual who regurgitates establishment talking points pretending to be some massive big brain, while ignoring the near infinite times the government and establishment lie regularly, while you take everything they say at face value, while simultaneously never looking into anything that runs contrary to the establishment narrative.. "I weigh the odds" Poorly apparently... "Either doctors across the country, 3000 county health boards, state health departments abd the cdc are all involved in a conspiracy to invent people that didn’t exist and then say they died" Or, normal deaths have been pushed into the " excess deaths " category, or any of the other things i pointed out that you have done zero research into and just dimiss as lies outright... "They manage to do all this and remain completely silent" Except the doctors and physicians who were calling out the lies over the entire year who were silenced by big tech and the establishment... "Or the numbers are correct. That’s not blind Trust. That’s Occam’s razor" " the government is lying" or " the government is telling the truth this time dispite lying all teh time previously" Occams razor tells me not to assume the government ISNT lying... YOU have blind trust in the establishment "You however want me to blindly trust you when you scream “that’s a lie” over and over." No im not, im expecting you to look into what i said, learn how to read, learn how to COMPREHEND what is read, and look into this stuff yourself, instead of listening to the establishment.. you are such an arrogant person, that i cant actually believe you are here in good faith
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@waylonmercy1533 You are still going on and on about these fukin numbers that ive already, in previous answers, told you are bullshit. you keep asking questions with the crux being those numbers and basing everything around them. "They’ve said they’re misattributing them." This is what ive been trying to say to you for over a day now and you just now see it? wow "Why believe the fringe minority of doctors and not the vast majority?" Because many years ago the vast majority agreed to many barbaric and foolish " treatments" so just because a bunch of people in authority believe something doesnt make it more true the more people who believe it? There were 3.4 million total deaths. 500kIn 2020, is the actual number higher or lower than that? What part of i dont think the numbers are accurate is not getting through to you? I tried to tell you many times that you cant base anything off these numbers because the entities creating/keeping track of such things are incompetent "Cause that would mean you’re a Nazi and a flat earther because YouTube censors videos promoting nazism and flat earth videos." wow what a useless statement that has nothing to do with what im talking about. you can sit there and pretend there isnt rampant censorship all over every major media platform, it happens, and the internet remembers forever... speaking of which, everything i talked about can be independently researched by someone who actually cares about truth instead of being right take your ego down a notch big guy
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@waylonmercy1533 so i guess you just act like an arrogant prick to everyone not just me
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@waylonmercy1533 calling me a conspiracy theorist is an adhom, and means nothing my argument wasnt " nuh uh" you are either a dishonest fck or you lack reading comprehension skills "spreading dangerous misinformation" No im not, you are a liar
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@waylonmercy1533 stop being such a condescending asshat
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@waylonmercy1533 literally irrelevant to anything. If the numbers are in question how could anyone answer your question? Your "excess death" number is an estimation based on assumptions based on data that im calling into question... Repeating yourself over and over again and insulting people isnt addressing anything anyone has said
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@waylonmercy1533 you are either here to shitpost or to shill.. Which is it?
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@waylonmercy1533 Its not a lie, and you clearly have no idea what you are talking about... answer my question, are you here to shill or are you shitposting?
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@waylonmercy1533 you keep asking the same question i already answered while ignoring mine... You arent proving anyone wrong, you are just proving how much of an arrogant twt you are
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@waylonmercy1533 all you can do is repeat yourself while insulting your opponent
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@waylonmercy1533 i didnt dodge a single question... you apparently cant comprehend written english
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@waylonmercy1533 name calling and insults are adhoms, but ok i called you a liar because you called me a liar, but ok, you are the one who refuses to look into anything anyone other than you have said.. "And just because you typed out incoherent babble in response to a question does not mean you answered it" Just because you have trouble reading English, and cant understand what im saying doesn't mean it wasnt an answer "are the total death numbers over reported or under reported”" I already told you multiple times, IDK because the numbers are bull. but you apparently cant grasp that concept and just double down on name calling "theyre estimates is nuhh uhh" no its not you disingenuous arrogant person
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@waylonmercy1533 "then how do you know the numbers are bullshit? Dude ive already articulated that repeatedly in previous comments. learn how to comprehend what you are reading before calling other people dumb "And a name call alone is an ad hom. I debunked you then I insulted you" No you didnt! You just said im wrong, and THEN insulted me... you know, instead of addressing what i said, which apparently you cant comprehend because you keep repeating the same answered question... almost like you are just being dishonest....
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@waylonmercy1533 buddy. You cant just dismiss everything i say as "babble" and then say im wrong..... "By saying" Same thing as "so your saying"..... "Conspiracy" Know why i mentioned those other CoNsPiRaCy ThEoRiEs that turned out to be true? Because they were true even though they were CoNsPiRaCy ThEoRiEs. So saying its a CoNsPiRaCy ThEoRy doesnt mean anything... "Proove me wrong but you cant" You really arent grasping this are you? How does one prove a negative? If i view the numbers as invalid how would one prove anything? I gave you examples and you ignored them. You dont actually care about truth you just care about being "right" and your arrogance is really the cherry on top
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