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@siukong " wrong"
yet after the gun is pulled, they are able to leave... HMMMMmmmm
Again, words have meanings and you don't get to just pretend de-escalation has whatever definition you want.
Yeah its almost like there is a hierarchy of conflict, and one side tried to de escalate from the beginning, and another side didnt... thats the whole context of the problem here
In the context of conflict resolution and law enforcement deescalation refers to a specific process where by staying cool and calm, listening, and talking it out, a hostile, aggressive and potentially violent person is calmed down to a more compliant state.
Ahh i guess you didnt see the video where the lady with the gun was doing this exact thing for quite some time while trying to calmly leave... the other side didnt also de escalate, they escalated.....
Pulling a firearm does NOT achieve that aim. By pulling a gun you are going for intimidation, and often some level of bluffing, in order to bully your way into getting what you want. This is escalation , not deescalation.
This is a reaction to escalation, not the escalation itself... if the de escalation tactics the woman used beforehand had no effect, you move up on the hierarchy of conflict until the situation is resolved...
The other party would be justified to respond to this action by drawing a firearm of their own and responding to your threat with lethal force. If that had happened in this situation one or both parties could be gravely injured or dead. There are some situations where pulling a gun is the only option. This was not one of them. There is a reason this woman still got her weapon confiscated despite ultimately not being charged of anything.
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She did nothing wrong, and should be given her guns back. Pretending that this isnt a justified case of firearm self defense is laughable
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@Lysergic_ the us, and all of the western world could go carbon negative tomorrow, and it would make no effective change.
before i even bother, im not denying the c climate is changing, im denying that humans are the main driver of it. it is entirely more likely that the sun, and earths orbit, as well as its magnetic poles have far more effect on earths climate. i disagree with the notion that co2 is going to disastrously ruin the earths climate, i disagree that anything more the average western country is doing for c02 emissions is about as practical as we can expect. Pollution, waste dumping, and chemicals usages are a far more pressing matter, and far more reasonable to combat
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" she is a lunatic"
full stop, a gross mis-characterization of this poor woman...
" How unhinged do you have to be to whip out your gun over something like this"
How unhinged do you have to be to scream, berate, harass, call racist, threaten to " beat they w hite asses" and block a moving vehicle?
"My guess she is worried about getting her ass kicked."
Hence the self defense with a firearm... yet you seem to disagree?
"You should not be allowed to pull your gun on anybody that pisses you off"
What about people who scream at you, berate you, harass you, call you racist, threaten to beat you, and block you from de escalating the situation and leaving? how about then? when they fear for themselves and their family? seems like clear cut self defense no?
"How miserable do you have to be to pull a gun out on somebody because they made you angry? "
Pretty sure it was the constant threats of getting your a ss beaten for no apparent reason.....
"This woman must have little to no control over the events in her own life. I am sure that they will get off because she is w hite."
Ahh so thats all this is, you just hate w hite people...
or this was some exquisite tasting bait
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