Comments by "Ember Fist" (@emberfist8347) on "Man Swatted Over His Twitter Handle Doesn't Survive..." video.

  1. Because the police are expected to treat every call on the emergency hotline as an emergency.
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  2.  @scottdaniels8129  Except they don't go in guns blazing.
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  3.  @scottdaniels8129  Except he died of a heart attack.
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  4. Life.
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  5. Second Degree first degree requires they pull the trigger.
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  6.  @Medic99z  I would say they would intend physical harm as they make up BS that would require the SWAT Team to show up.
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  7.  @danieljames500  Felony Murder is different from second degree. Second Degree is planning a murder but not committing yourself like Al Capone he rarely killed people himself but he did plan the murder of multiple people. Felony Murder is when someone is killed while committing a felony.
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  8.  @brandondavis7777  Second Degree First Degree requires you pull the trigger yourself.
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  9.  @chrisbarrett2117  They sent in a false report with the intention of getting the person killed so it is on the caller.
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  10.  @danieljames500  Capone was only charged with Tax Evasion was because it was the only charge they could stick him with. But legally, situations like the Saint Valentine's Day Massacre were second degree murder hence why I cited Capone who planned the event but didn't carry it out.
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  11. Well the d!cknob who calls generally makes up stories about time-sensitive situations where you can't investigate first.
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  12.  @steadybacon1606  Except you don't have time because if a hostage is caught making a call, they will be executed. Every second counts in a hostage situation. The police didn't even shoot in this case the man had a heart attack.
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  13.  @steadybacon1606  No we do not because there is no reason for it. This wasn't a no-knock raid. They didn't even kill the man. And you forget the scenario on the call where SWAT is used because of the time-sensitive nature.
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  14.  @nt78stonewobble  It wasn’t even cartels that caused SWAT to form but widespread crime in major cities
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  15. @npc 117 No second degree as first degree means they pulled the trigger.
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  16.  @WingmanStudios  Except you are basing your logic on there being malicious intent on the officer's side. When an officer is being maliciously misled you can't blame them for the incident.
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  17. I think that is down to parents to monitor what their kids are doing.
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  18. No they handle Federal Crimes. Not all SWATing is Federal and they have no jurisdiction overseas. The person would be charged by the local authorities if he was extradited to the US or charge locally.
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  19.  @patrickobermiller  The callers the cops are not at fault due to being given false information.
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  20.  @xXReimuHakureiXx  That is complete bullshit. SWAT procedure is to hold fire until the person becomes a threat. Even if you have loaded gun in your hand, they will not fire until you shoot at them.
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  21. John wouldn't kill them. The Continental has a rule they don't mess with police and the police don't mess don't with them.
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  22. Except no it doesn't
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  23. No it should be a felony.
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  24. Well lets say you are being held hostage in a bank and need the SWAT to come you can't go in person you have to call them.
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  25. It showed up as a local number to the dispatcher.
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  26. It isn't their fault. The call was made about a crime in progress and they responded as such followed procedure and didn't even shoot him he had a heart attack.
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  27. They don't actually enforce the law. They just coordinate the national law enforcement agencies.
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  28.  @freddyfox5002  Well not really not everyone is willing to identify themselves for fear of repercussions if they were an actual hostage they wouldn't want to ID themselves.
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  29. It was spoofed to look like it was a local call.
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  30. The call described a crime in progress no time for investigation when that is happening.
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  31. The person who did this should get life.
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  32.  @kuuryotwo5153  You don’t know anything about Police work. For example as another comment mentioned, Swatting calls include claims like someone is about to blow up children with a pipe bomb that is time sensitive. Anything with bombs and hostages are time sensitive
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  33.  @steadybacon1606  Nice strawman you made. You realize no-knock warrants aren't a free pass to use lethal force right?
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  34.  @olejniczak12  You need some citiations.
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  35.  Mike Dalby  You are not familiar with hostage situations
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  36.  Mike Dalby  I have more of an education than you my friend.
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  37. The SWATing calls tend to be talking about time-sensitive situations where you can't wait before you sent the SWAT team in.
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  38.  @jaycampbell4925  Police actually use hollow point rounds most of the time to avoid the bullets passing through walls.
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  39.  @brandondavis7777  First Degree requires you pull the trigger yourself. This kid didn't kill the dude directly but planned on having him killed so it is a felony murder as it was heart attack.
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  40. No they are not. They didn't open fire at all in this incident
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  41.  @jerimenolan4809  No he got someone killed he deserves it.
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  42. No Second Degree Murder or in this case as it was a heart attack, felony murder.
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  43.  @scottdecowski4913  Because they were misled by false information.
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  44.  @guillermoelnino  No they were given false information.
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  45.  @guillermoelnino  No they didn't kill the person and even if they did because they were deceived it isn't their fault.
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  46. Well only if they die of say a heart attack. If the person is shot it is second-degree murder.
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  47.  @DragoEpyon  My response is simple. Because pain is part of who we are.
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  48.  @silverblade357 Well the difference is they planned the murder but don't do it themself, having someone else pull the trigger makes a second degree murder but cutting the breaks or using poison if you did it yourself would make it first degree.
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  49. Second Degree murder.
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  50. No the problem is the false call. Police have to treat every call as an emergency until they have evidence otherwise if it is dialed to 911.
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  51. They aren't the dude died of a heart attack and the police have to treat the call on their emergency line as an emergency.
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  52.  Marko Botic  No they didn't kill him.
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  53. No they do and have a protocol. Their protocol is detain everyone at the scene of a incident until they sort out who is who and they didn't kill him.
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  54. Well they had evidence the call. They have to treat call particularly ones that generally summon (Hostage Situation, bombings, etc.) as a real emergency until proven otherwise.
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  55. He was using a local number.
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  56. It needs to be a felony not Federal. Federal would be a nationwide crime otherwise a crime that crosses into federal jurisdicition.
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  57.  @dr.wolfstar1765  The kid created a situation where he intended for the dude to be killed so it is on him and not the police.
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  58. No just murder. In this case it would be Felony Murder.
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  59.  @dr.wolfstar1765  No from the caller. Police don't go out to kill people. Would you blame a soldier who was deceived by the enemy into killing a civilian?
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  60.  @VegetoStevieD  Except no that isn't the case.
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  61.  @VegetoStevieD  Because everything you said was wrong. The dude wasn’t shot he had a heart attack.
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  62.  @VegetoStevieD  And in the analogy they would have done something that would have caused the police to think their life was in danger. Often people are accidentally shot because they reach into their pocket and never explain what they are doing causing police to assume they are pulling out a weapon.
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  63. It is different. cutting a break line is the same as pulling the trigger but you aren't pulling the trigger when you make a false call.
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  64. They didn't shoot the dude had a heart attack and the calls frequently make up time-sensitive situations.
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  65. No they were given false information and per official procedure they need to detain everyone at the scene until they can prove who is innocent and who isn't this policy is to stop criminals from escaping by pretending to be hostage.
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  66. First degree is when you pull the trigger.
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  67. First Degree requires you to pull the trigger yourself. What happened here should be felony murder as the person died of a heart attack because someone committed a felony. If he was shot, that would be second-degree murder because it was pre-meditated but they didn't kill the person themself.
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  68. No it is a pretty simple cause of the police doing their job. As a cop you should know every call needs to be treated as an emergency until you can prove otherwise.
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  69.  @xXReimuHakureiXx  That is bullshit.
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  70. The police are required to treat every call to them as an emergency until it is clear it isn't.
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