Comments by "Ember Fist" (@emberfist8347) on "Marvel BETRAYS Captain Marvel! Scarlet Witch \"BUSTS\" Her Bubble!" video.

  1. Well he didn't defeat him he just annoyed him into accepting a very lopsided deal. Strange even said in the movie itself he couldn't defeat Dormamuu but he didn't have to. He just needed to keep dying over and over to stop Dormamuu from reaching Earth.
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  2.  @mrpj1390  Still the MCU version of Black Panther is not on the same level as his comics counterpart. Even then I wouldn't rank T'Challa as smarter than Strange because the dude is a genuine MD with specialty for brain surgery.
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  3.  @Alkaizer87  "Dormammu, I have come to bargain" that is the actual line and you can still use because how the climax went.
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  4.  Nickolas Schneider  Hulk would beat Red Cape Man World-Breaker Form. Hulk still strongest one there is. To be serious Hulk is one of the most powerful character characters at Marvel in the incarnation seen in Planet Hulk and World War Hulk storyline. Plus the Marvel Vs DC series had the winner of the fights get determined by fan votes even when this doesn't make sense. A good example is Lobo losing to Wolverine when the former has much more potent healing factor. They actually had to explain that was paid by Professor X to throw the fight later in his solo series.
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  5. She isn't Adam Warlock has been waiting in the wings since Guardians Volume 2 and he is on the same level Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet
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  6. Adam Warlock: Hold my beer.
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  7.  @QUESTIONguy12455  I still don't call a true defeat since it is really just a very one-sided truce.
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  8. Except Rouge couldn't fly or do anything other drain people's life force and abilities without Carol.
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  9. Hulk Strongest One There Is.
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  10.  Nickolas Schneider  Lobo's healing factor is powerful enough that he can regenerate from a drop of blood. Wolverine's claws (which weren't even the adamatium ones at the time of the comic) can't stop something like that. The victory was also off-panel because it was that it really shouldn't have been possible.
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  11. Plus she was an officer in the Air Force who never actually served in combat. Captain America meanwhile was the leader of an entire commando force back during WWII.
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  12.  Nickolas Schneider  Wolverine got his Adamantum ripped from his Skeleton by Magneto in 1993 during the events of Fatal Attraction and didn't get it back until 1999 during a flashback in his solo series. the DC vs Marvel series came out in 1996.
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  13. He is part of the cosmic tier heroes alongside Adam Warlock. In other words he is strong enough to go toe-to-toe with Thanos even when he had the Infinity Gauntlet.
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  14.  @saturcasual  Because the A tier is lower than the S tier Carol is in.
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  15. @Byron Walters I don't recall him ever having that power. Beside it is not the point. The point is Strange is not powerful enough yet to face Dormamuu properly.
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  16. Adam Warlock: I can beat both of you without breaking a sweat.
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  17.  @darcyauguste281  What?
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  18. Because if you have character that can't control their powers, that can be used create conflict that is the entire idea behind Rouge after she joined the X-Men. Other possibilities include having the hero being shown as incredibly power, but not infallible like Superman. The problem with the pretender Captain Marvel is that she has no personality.
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  19.  @kinghell9061  That is exactly what the MCU has been doing.
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  20.  @kinghell9061  You haven't seen Spider-Man Far From Home I guess. They followed a story about half the universe being wiped out with a story of Spider-Man having his school being hijacked by Nick Fury and fighting a petty glory hound whose gimmick is that they weaponize special effects. The MCU has always the really big threats sparingly and so far it doesn't look like Phase 4 will have any attempt to one-up Thanos.
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  21. Really he held his own against Thor, Bucky and beat the Hulk.
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  22.  @avikingman1  No they don't need a team. they just have play things smart. In the comics both Iron Man and Batman have super-powered characters in their rouges gallery and Batman has contingencies to counter each member of the Justice League. Realistically all need to defeat any super-powered being is a good plan and some super-powered characters are not good match ups against either hero. (Thor for example can't use his lightning powers against Iron Man because it will just give him a power boost.)
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  23. Death isn't really an accurate measure for a how a battle to play out. Exhibit A: Batman vs Captain America. Batman wins despite the comic JLA/Avengers having Batman himself admit Cap would win if they ever got into a fight. Exhibit B: Boba Fett vs Samus. The missile should have taken off most of Samus' health bar if not kill her outright. The Attack Of The Clones Visual Dictionary mentions that those missiles would have killed Obi-Wan with a direct hit and given what they did to with indirect one it should have done way more damage. Plus the host forgot One other thing that could have let Boba win that fight. Boba also frequently uses a Disruptor which can ignore personal deflector shields and some models are designed to disable Star Destroyers. Exhibit C: Master Chief vs Doom Guy. If they actually played the Halo games, they would know that you can't throw a plasma grenade through the bubble shield.
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  24. I would put her at the higher end of global tier heroes but there are still two tiers about that.
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  25.  @ajch22  I am talking about comics where that wasn't the case.
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  26.  Thrusty McPants  Nah Rogue could still Temporally use other people's powers before she did this on Carol.
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  27.  Nickolas Schneider  It was during an event comic called Fatal Attractions.
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  28.  @Dargonhuman  It was canon on the DC side at least. At least I assume it is because they later made a story that confirmed that JLA/Avengers actually happened.
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  29. Well House of M is kinda a stupid story.
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  30. Well Doom was empowered with outside magic so I wouldn't really count that. What I would count is comics Thanos beating all the Earth based heroes without needing the Infinity Gauntlet just to show off to his crush Lady Death.
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  31. It is about as factually inaccurate as Death Battle.
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  32. I would prefer Adam Warlock. But it is kinda too little too late now that Thanos is dead for good.
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  33. How to beat Scarlet Witch, Infinity Gaunlet or Cosmic Cubes.
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  34.  @stecav7199  I don't Remember Wanda being the person who defeated Thanos in the Infinity Gauntlet.
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  35. They had that stuff before. There is event a list of the most powerful heroes in the comics and Thor and Hulk (specifically the Green Scar Hulk from Planet Hulk and World War Hulk) are on that list well before Captain Marvel.
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  36. No she was in the comics for years before Rouge. Carol made her first appearance in 1968 and first became a costumed superhero in 1977. Rouge by contrast first appeared in 1981.
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  37. Another point. Adam Warlock has been confirmed to be in the MCU in the near future. He is on the same as Thanos both with and without the Infinity Gauntlet.
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  38. Except there is also Adam Warlock he is one of the few cosmic tier heroes and actually was more of threat to Thanos than anyone else from the Infinity Gauntlet storyline barring Nebula when she got the gauntlet.
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  39. Well the Marvel universe canonically has characters that make even Thor look like a street-level hero. Adam Warlock is a good example and he has been confirmed to be in MCU for while now.
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  40. Not really I am okay with the idea of the existence of Character tiers in Marvel. You have the non-powered heroes like the Punisher and Black Widow, street-level heroes like Spider-Man and Iron Fist, the global-level heroes like Iron Man and Captain America, the magic-users like Doctor Strange and Scarlet Witch, and finally you the have the Cosmic tier heroes like Adam Warlock and Silver Surfer at the very top.
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  41. Well if it Adam Warlock in that scene, he would have killed them all wouldn't die when he did. The dude is Thanos level powerful even Thanos is the one with the infinity stones.
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  42. Nah they had this kinda stuff before in the comics. It is natural when your universe has everything from people with no powers like Black Widow and the Punisher to cosmic god-tier characters like Thanos, Adam Warlock, and even a character that is the embodiment of the universe itself.
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  43. Rouge kinda has that as her power but I would remind you if that person didn't have superpowers, they probably would have died when she did what she did to Carol.
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  44. She didn't kill Carol plus that was back when Carol was written properly.
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  45. Adam Warlock: But neither can actually wield the full set of Infinity Stones.
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  46. Nah the strongest is Adam Warlock he is Thanos' arch-rival and one of the only people on the same power level as Thanos.
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  47. not all powered individuals at Marvel were mutants. Even the she didn't wipe them out, she just drastically reduced the population size by depowering the majority of mutants. The storyline is also House of M not "No More Mutants"
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  48. Not the energy blast but still.
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  49. Nah the strongest character is Adam Warlock he is on the same level as Thanos and has waiting in the wings since Guardians Volume 2.
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  50. The motorcycle bit was a deleted scene.
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  51. What about Black Widow and Spider-Man?
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  52. Still she will pail in comparison to Adam Warlock. He is a Thanos level hero.
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  53.  @DasKrug  You forget that Strange keep Dormamuu in check anymore because the time stone was destroyed by Thanos.
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  54.  @jjmiles7173  It ended in a draw and a deal. One that with the time stone gone can now broken by Dormamuu with ease.
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  55.  @jjmiles7173  No my definition of a victory requires it clear to that one side has won. There is nothing stopping Dormamuu from going back on his word and Strange doesn't have the time stone. What happened is the military equivalent of a cease-fire.
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  56.  @Cathodox  I wouldn't describe Strange as battling Dormamuu he just annoyed him into submission.
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  57.  @Cathodox  No it was a cease-fire since Dormamuu made a deal with Strange to leave earth alone.
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  58. @Byron Walters That is distinction without a difference. Plus nobody has answered about what is stopping Dormamuu from going back on the agreement not that the Time Stone is destroyed.
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  59. @Byron Walters I think a being as powerful as him would notice the power signature the Infinity Stones give off when used.
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  60. @Byron Walters So you are saying that a group of mere mortals can track the energy signature given off by using all of the infinity stones at once but a immortal inter-dimensional god can't? That seems messed up.
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  61.  DarkEternal6  Not really he is just isn't at the Sorcerer Supreme levels because he isn't the Sorcerer Supreme yet.
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  62.  @gabrielhill995  I think if a group of mortals can identify the energy pulse that happens when the infinity stones are used a inter-demensional god can as well.
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  63.  @Harkmagic  Thanos during the events of the Infinity Gauntlet (The comic book that is the basis for Infinity War and Endgame) single-handedly curb-stomped all of Earth's Heroes without having to use the Gauntlet. He was actually going easy on the heroes when he fought them to boot.
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  64.  @Harkmagic  He didn't even use the power stone in that fight. Even at his base power, Thanos is still a cosmic tier villain which puts him several levels over Hulk in terms of power.
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  65.  @Harkmagic  Except the movie makes it very clear the stones have no passive benefits like that. He only ever used a infinity stone in a fight once in Endgame but he still strong enough to shatter Captain America's shield and made it through the entire final battle without a scratch until Tony sacrificed himself. If he needed the power stone to beat Hulk, he would have been seen using it but he doesn't.
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  66.  @Harkmagic  Except Thanos did beat Hulk and every other Earth based hero in the Infinity Gauntlet storyline without using any of the stones.
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  67. She isn't in the MCU yet, but she would be somewhere in the low-end Cosmic tier list alongside Silver Surfer.
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  68.  @fahmisahar  Well the cosmic tier also includes the planet-eating Galactus and tops off at Eternity the embodiment of the Marvel multiverse.
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