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Comments by "Ember Fist" (@emberfist8347) on "Chinas Insane Control of Hollywood" video.
Well one is good and the other isn’t. Also the changes they made to appease China didn’t really help the movie. They replaced Mushu with a Phoenix but used a Western version of the mythical bird while Mushu was a good example of how Dragons are treated in the East as benevolent beings.
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@Bmetalful Because Israel isn't like China at all.
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@carljohan9265 You can. The Foreigner came out in 2017-2018 and it has Jackie Chan as a retired Taiwanese Special Forces operative that served in Vietnam. Though that is still a change from the book where he was a former Viet Cong Guerrilla.
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@randomuserame I say that is the most likely reason. Mexico City refused to allow EON to show the crime Cartels and Corruption in the nation when they filmed Spectre's cold open there. It isn't just China.
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@dividedstatesofamerica2520 Taiwan as in acknowledgment that it is a nation and not part of Red China.
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The difference is the United States is case of creator provincialism (meaning the US gets the most focus because the movies are made there) and we can and do make movies critical of the United States in Hollywood all the time. China is a different ball park.
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That was a recent one and it was lazily done you see the bombs going off before the freeze frame and ending text.
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They have but it stopped after 2008. Some examples, The first Transformers movie had China being one of the main suspects in the attack on a military base in Qatar at the start of the film, and the United States nearly ends up on the brink of war with China before it is finally revealed to be alien robots. The Departed had a major plot point being the main villain selling microchips to the Chinese Government for their ICBM program. The Dark Knight had a Chinese banker flee to Hong Kong to avoid being prosecuted for laundering the money of the Gotham Mob Families in the US because of the lack of extradition treaties and the entire police force is depicted as corrupt. The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor released the same year as the Dark Knight has a fictional version of the founder of the Qing Dynasty (read: Modern China) as the villain wanting to take over the world and Chinese human antagonist. The script actually appeared to be changed to be more critical of China as the Chinese human antagonists were originally Japanese Soldiers when the movie was set during the Second Sino-Japanese War and the final battle would have had Chinese POWs helping the heroes (this was changed to zombies from the laborers who built the original Great Wall)
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@Naruga Nah we just need good disaster movies. The problem is that 2012 is a Roland Emmerich movie where everything takes a backseat to the special effects. There exist good disaster movies.
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When Mulan thanks a province for allowing to film near their death camps and a trailer has to be pulled for using footage of a real-life atrocity not for the children (this is an M-rated game after all) but to appease the nation that committed the atrocity you should be alarmed.
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@grimhat2 Black Ops II had the US in a Cold War with China and while not the main villain's the leader of the Chinese military alliance was still an important antagonist.
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No it is Chinese.
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@TheHalogen131 When the spectacle doesn’t work because it is absurd there is something wrong.
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Russia is not bad guy in every modern Call of Duty. Outside of the first Black Ops, the Russian antagonists (when they have them and not have them be other nationalities) are non-state-sponsored independent actors. Also China was one of the antagonist in Black Ops II.
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And most of them do. Age of Extinction and Iron Man 3 had scenes that could easily be removed for domestic release. Also, the Mission Impossible 3 thing is something that tends to happen with any film doing location shoots. Some other examples include Scream where Wes Craven had to film the high school scenes in a different area from the rest of the film as the town he filmed most of the film in, was in the middle of a trial over a school murder that occurred a few years earlier and Spectre had EON having to remove an entire subplot in the Mexico City cold open to remove a corrupt government official character to appease the Mexican Government.
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“2012 is good” you are the first person to say that congratulations.
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You can make films critical of the US no problem. go to China an post anything anti-CCP you will never be seen from again.
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Except not really. Godzilla was made in 1954 and fairly critical of the US as in the monster was created by the US.
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@craigb47 None. The US tends to go into that are already destabilized.
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@craigb47 No I am being accurate. The countries we get involved already are destabilized. Korea, Vietnam, Grenada. Somalia, Afghanistan Iraq.
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@craigb47 What about them? Iran was subject to a coup and the got into a long and bloody conflict with Iraq so it was destabilized: Rhodesia we weren’t even involved in even indirectly. The Latin American nations they were destabilized pretty well on their own and we only directly got involved with the two biggest offenders.
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@craigb47 Except no the Iran coup was the opposite. The coup was anti-American as the coup led to the Iranian Hostage Crisis.
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@craigb47 We did not train any of them. Khomeini was just discretely shipped back to Iran but supported in his coup or train. We also didn't train Saddam as he was already in power at the time and we didn't train or back Bin Laden but the Mujahideen a coalition of anti-Soviet Afghans who remained our allies when the War in Afghanistan began in 2001.
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Eh back then there was more overt Anti-China stuff like the Dark Knight having a Chinese banker laundering money for the mob or the Departed having Jack Nicholson sell mirochips to Chinese Government Agents for their missile program.
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The issue isn't Chinese People enjoying movies but the CCCP having a disproportionate influence in the making of movies like how Doctor Strange didn't cast a Tibetan actor to play The Ancient One who was Tibetan in the comics to avoid getting banned in China or removing the Tiamen Square footage in The Cold War Trailer covering up a real world atrocity committed against Chinese citizens.
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He can be. They only banned the memes.
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That isn’t the case. We were anti-Germany back then.
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@samwayne8961 Except we didn't we were very anti-Germany back then.
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Some places are surprising strict about what you can do while location shooting. Not just China.
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I am still pissed about that. At least making him Arab would have worked if they didn’t throw in that twist. It would be necessary to make a modern version of the Character not to be a relic of the Cold War by removing the Yellow Peril/Red China elements.
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Sony is really two companies right now. Sony of Japan and Sony of America.
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The Hoover Dam, Area 51, Nebraska, Baffin Island, Mount Yumatau.
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You could do the program in the US or even Canada or Russia.
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Okay anti-Semitic.
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@Vherstinae Well that applies to Islam but not Judaism.
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@DefinitelyNotEmma But you are just spreading a textbook conspiracy theory.
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@DefinitelyNotEmma Not your anti-Semitic conspiracy theories which is looking at crap that isn’t there.
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@DefinitelyNotEmma The fact you are two cowardly to say the religion you are bashing proves you are wrong.
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They are basically interchangable.
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Well that is because the pre-War United States is just as bad. It is was more a critique of the US than of Communism.
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Mocking capitalism on a platform that could only be created by capitalism is classic.
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@cherniqhs Which isn't true at all.
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@safrith494 Or just look at the Bourne Films which are pretty anti-US.
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