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Comments by "Ember Fist" (@emberfist8347) on "Meet The Youtuber Convicted of Treason - Andrei Pyzh" video.
If they wanted the information. A few rounds of Vodka would be cheaper and more low profile.
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If Putin was a good KGB operative he would have realized that a couple thousand rubbles would have solved the problem and be cleaner.
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Nah most of the Soviet facilities used in fiction are real places. Call of Duty Black Ops had Vorkuta, Rebirth Island, and Mount Yumatau. The first two were known to exist but don't anymore (The Vorkutalag was shut down in 1962 due to a prison riot a decade before and Rebirth Island is now part of a desert due to Soviet dam projects draining the Aral Sea) and the last is much like Metro 2 it hasn't been confirmed or denied and it is long suspected there is something inside that mountain.
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@Helen Keller Russian shill found. You need to look up what treason is. Posting a video exploring an abandoned military facility isn't treason.
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@Honudes Gai depends on the nation. Some countries have overly broad definitions of treason.
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The definition depends on the nation. For example, in the US, treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution because of the abuse of the charge by Great Britain. I remember some devs from Arma III were jailed for similar charges when examining a Greek military base as reference material.
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Except Curiosity is now under more scrutiny for imprisoning the cat. If Curiosity left the cat alone, the story wouldn't be as big.
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Congratulations FSB. You just managed to draw more attention to this situation than if you just left this guy alone. Or they could have just bribed the dude.
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@DanielFrost79 Except he didn't. Treason is very clearly defined and he doesn't fit the definition.
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@WeedDays Ah yes whataboutism. Also Guantanamo Bay was shut down a few years back.
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@Helen Keller He didn't take it to a hostile nation. Is Youtube a hostile nation now? You are pretty dense as you don't seem to understand the Stratiesand Effect. This is a textbook of that in action.
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@wrongthinker843 An Agent of the FSB.
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@ramonandrajo6348 Really that is all you got?
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@ramonandrajo6348 You couldn't t make a new comment.
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Except this just draws more attention to the incident.
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@Helen Keller Except this isn't like that. NORAD has people inside of it and he posted it on a public video platform he didn't go to China with it.
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Vortex 88 If it was operational people would be working there and he would have been shot long before he got inside.
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He was dodging guards in Chernobyl too. So not really a good relationship.
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@GreenBlueWalkthrough Yep.
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I am not sure if that is really true. It may depend on specific locations as Stock Footage exists for Cheyenne Mountain which was used all the time in Stargate SG-1.
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Nah most Soviet facilities that appear in fiction are based on real places. There has been a lot to go on thanks to declassified documents after the fall of the Soviet Union from both the Soviet Archives and rival state intelligence agencies.
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But the question is why is it restricted? If they suddenly made driving your car illegal would have the same reaction?
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@annabella1650 Well realistic an abandoned site military or not is fair game. If you want to be technical it isn't even Russian property but Soviet property.
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@srdjantrail But if you watched the video you would he only took public documents.
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@wrongthinker843 Nope I am not Jewish unfortunately.
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@DannyKa-x8z No it is not. Russia is pretty draconian.
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Actually, even somewhere with guns like the US, it isn't a bad hobby. Urban Explorers go for abandoned areas.
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Laws aren't always morally or ethically right.
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@greenknightofwar7024 Russia is infamous for corrupt cops.
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@jkl9984 Except not really. Most US facilities that aren't used but the US anymore are either sold to private entities or made national parks and the like.
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Except it isn't really private as he got in means there wasn't so much as a picket fence.
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@drakron Except Area 51 isn’t abandoned. Also those people only “broke in” becuause the property line for base extends past the fence for a good few miles just to trap people.
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@drakron Except the base was abandoned. He spent a whole year there which wouldn’t be possible if it wasn’t
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No it was a clear threat.
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The law is unjust.
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@Helen Keller It is not justice because it is not just.
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@srdjantrail Not exactly the same thing. Old military sites tend to be museums and such. You publicly available and that is when they aren’t being sold.
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@annabella1650 Most disused military sites in the US don’t have these laws around most of them are open to the public.
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@rainbowsnail4171 Not really. Also your logic makes no sense. If military stuff is restricted than we shouldn't have the Internet, Epipens, antibiotics and any number of every day items first made with military applications in mind. The black market only exists to begin with because they try to restrict these items.
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@jkl9984 Except it was abandoned. He wouldn't have gone there if there was a security detail outside.
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@jkl9984 Was a military site. It was abandoned.
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@srdjantrail Not active. There would have been personnel in the facility if it was. It is at best mothballed.
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@Helen Keller Except he didn't send it to a hostile country. Also NORAD isn't abandoned.
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@Helen Keller Law's aren't always ethical shill.
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If it was active, he wouldn't have spent a year there unnoticed.
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Except visiting Ukraine isn't selling secrets to them and the facility was abandoned. Just because he visited Ukraine to visit the Exclusion Zone (which is similarly forbidden for people to enter) doesn't mean he is in bed with the government. Hell he was avoiding guards when he was exploring Chernobyl. If he was in bed with them, they would have given a free tour.
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Yep a bribe would avoided this mess.
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@annabella1650 No bribing him before the videos were posted would work and besides arresting him at all would just draw more attention.
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He didn't take to another country.
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@srdjantrail Everything he did was publically available stuff. Hell the facility isn't that secret if any urban explorer could find it.
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Not really. The US isn't nearly this severe because we understand that harsh punishments just provide more exposure to the situation.
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@greenknightofwar7024 You realize there wouldn’t be a video about this if he wasn’t arrested.
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@Lost_Evanes Well that raid would only because it was a raid also most of them would have been shot for trespassing.
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@elcidleon6500 Found the anti-semite
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@atribecalledplanes9079 Unfortunately for them, Treason is clearly defined to avoid it abused.
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@yousufnaroo3181 Not in the US. Whistleblowers aren't committing treason as there is a very clear definition for what that is in the US and they aren't committing it as it would require defining the public as an enemy.
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@johnwolfe7058 What?
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@Helen Keller Except a state facility is under military jurisdiction so it wouldn't be FSB either as they aren't military.
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Except it isn't really trespassing if it is abandoned and there is not even a picket fence to stop you.
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@ronaldmahan8417 Actually it is how it works. In order for trespassing to be claimed, there needs to be some level of security implying it can’t be freely accessed.
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If it was operational, there would have been people inside who would have shot him long ago.
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The video mentioned the accusations came from third party organizations not state governments.
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@MrSolus-ls6us Torture doesn't work though. A few beers and a nice conversation can get far better results. Also as I said most of the accusations came from third-party organizations, not other governments.
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Being an idiot isn't a crime.
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@shadowkhan422 No he successfully managed to do this stuff for years without incident.
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@AndresGrelan Whataboutism.
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@pukingpanda1803 Nah we do not. There is a freedom index and we surpass both of them.
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@Helen Keller You don't seem to realize how notoriously corrupt the Russian Government is
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