Comments by "Ember Fist" (@emberfist8347) on "Dennis Prager DESTROYS Cenk Uygur" video.

  1.  @rationalbacon5872  Cyprus is de facto partially Islamic thanks to the Turkish Invasion in the 1970s and Lebanon had a long and devastating civil war that involved the Entire Middle East and the UN. As I said we need a politically stable ally and neither of those nations fall under that category.
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  2. Yep. I think he is still angry about the Ottoman Empire collapsed and is unhappy they don't control the territory anymore.
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  3. Why do so many Christian sects say no to the Pope? Religious differences are thing and it doesn't mean anything.
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  4. They are okay with a two state solution. Dennis Prager has done multiple videos about the Arab-Israeli conflict and explained that the Israeli government has given the olive branch multiple times.
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  5. Do you support Hamas too?
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  6. Thet are called that for ridiculous reasons. The land that isn't Jewish majority is considered a separate nation and Israel has strict border control.
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  7. No they are worse Israel isn't a terrorist group.
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  8. So you are going to ignore Hamas's atrocities? They are the agressors.
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  9. Except there is such as a defensive war.
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  10.  @zzevonplant  Except I have never found anything suggesting that Israel did anything on the level of Hamas. And no the IDF has always gone tit-for-tat with Hamas.
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  11. No he is not.
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  12.  @shadowwhowalk  No it did not do your research there were Jews living in the area since the Ottomans ruled it.
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  13. Eh the ones with more atrocities under their belts tend to Hamas. Like the recent rocket attacks. They used civilian buildings like hospitals and schools with people still inside as a shield from retaliatory strikes and then Israel decides to fire back anyways and suddenly they are the ones who did the atrocity but not the ones who committed a war crime by placing military equipment in a civilian occupied area with the intention of getting those people killed.
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  14. Agreed. It is a politically complicated issue but people need to do their research. Preferably they should start their research at the Ottoman Rule or the British Mandate period as the issue mostly stems from the Mandate era.
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  15. The problem is that Hamas isn't a single headed beast. You kill one terrorist leader, another will show up to take their place. Al-Qaeda is still operational despite Bin Laden being dead for over a decade. This is a similar problem that exists with Hamas.
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  16. How? By placing rockets on hospitals to attack Israeli civilians?
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  17. That sounds like a leftist tactic and it is loaded question if you take it too far. It is the stuff Cenk did to Prager.
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  18. He does by not going down to their level. By continuing to be a reasonable and level-headed person who doesn't let the strawmans get past him, he does destroy their arguments.
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  19. Islam is not beyond Redemption. The radical religious sects that are exemplified by terrorist groups are beyond redemption certainly. Islam is not a monolithic religion any more than Christianity. There are multiple sects with their own differences in beliefs.
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  20.  @stevenroberts5740  You are talking a load of shit. Al-Qaeda did 9/11 and The USS Liberty wasn't sunk it was damaged but survived and later scrapped after travelling back to the United States. It was also a warship in politically violatile environment that even the UAR warned neutral ships to steer clear from.
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  21.  @stevenroberts5740  No it is easy to dispute the fact it was a false flag operation. First the IDF torpedo boats did have Israeli flags on them. Hard to do a false flag when the attackers use your flag for it. Second, it was documented by the US inquiry that the US flag was knocked off by the first attack run and the Holiday Ensign wasn't raised until after the the jets left and the torpedo boats arrived unable to see the flag due to the whaleboat fire and them they launched torpedoes only after the crew of the Liberty apparently opened fire on them (in reality at least one gunner did so but only because another turret had its ammunition cooked off). Prior to that, the boats were signaling for Liberty to identify itself which was confirmed again by the US inquiry and more specifically the testimony of Captain William G. McGonagle. Also if the attack was really a false flag, they wouldn't be distinctively Israeli aircraft. McGonagle's testimony confirms that one of the prior recon runs used what he described as being similar to "an American Flying Boxcar". He is a referring to the Nord Noratlas a French twin-boom cargo plane that is similar in design to the US C-119 Flying Boxcar. The remaining aircraft were distinctively French made designs when Egypt used Soviet jets. Also the NSA has declassified some transmissions that the IDF had sent indicating that far from trying to kill anyone they were doing what any would do when encountering a warship and sent helicopters to conduct CSAR after the attack. You shouldn't try to challange the knowledge of the Liberty Incident of someone who had family on that ship.
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  22.  @stevenroberts5740  I checked that and there is no way to track down the original document from the state document. All evidence they knew comes from second hand accounts. There are currently no primary sources and believe me I checked.
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  23.  @stevenroberts5740  No they were on the Liberty herself.
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  24.  @shadowwhowalk  You going by all the stops and using Godwin's law and using all the strawman congradulations.
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  25. They are named after a theocratic regime so yes.
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  26. You are wrong though the thing is Palestine would end occupation if Hamas didn't keep escalating the conflict.
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  27. No they actually don't.
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  28. We side with the nation as in a region as unstable as the Middle East, we need a stable ally.
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  29. ​ @rationalbacon5872  Both nations fell strictly due to geo-political factors dating back to before the creation of Israel. And Israel never required US intervention outside of funding and military aid. Cyprus was invaded because of a long-running political feud between the Greek and Turkish natives which culiminated in a 1974 military coup by the Greek Cypiots that was used a pretext for the Turkish Invasion. Lebanon fell due to the arbitrary division of the land as while the Marronite Christians held control of the government, there was still a sizable Islamic population and Hamas who had been operating in parts of Lebanon were another significant contributing factor. They already caused a civil war in Jordan before King Hussein (not a US ally at the time) forced them so they moved to Lebanon and caused a Civil War there too.
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  30.  @rationalbacon5872  Is having a stable ally in a unstable region of the world not enough for you? Or the fact they were fighting Soviet influence in the Middle East during the Cold War?
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  31.  @rationalbacon5872  The last they would want is a civil war in their backyard where one of the player is the group that wants them wiped from the face of the Earth. Also it had to do the Christian Muslim in the nation's demographic which was from the French Mandate era.
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  32. No he isn't
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  33. It something they printed on coins since the Civil War period. It became a national motto during the Cold War Period due to the combination of a religious revival and a belief in the government the only way to fight communism which was an ideology that effectively treated itself as a state religion was to encourage Christian ideology to fight fire with fire.
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  34.  @phantom8926  short version, Britain and France are dicks. Long version. For most of modern history, the area that is present day Israel was part of the Ottoman Empire and specifcially the southern part of Syria. Back then you have denominations of every Abrahamic Religion living in Jerusalem which is significant to all three religions. During World War I, The British and French convinced several rulers of Ottoman provinces to rise up and this sparked the Arab Revolt. The rulers were promised their own lands when the war was over (and they did keep their promises with Kuwait) but the Allied Powers signed secret treaties behind their backs that would divide the Ottoman territory under British and French rule. The Treaty of Sevres which dismantled the Ottoman Empire was the one they followed in dismantling the Ottoman Empire which led to the area called Palestine becoming a British Mandate. Jews were still living in Palestine and the 1920s saw the first wave of Zionism, a term for Jewish immigration that is turned into a dirty word by anti-semities, who got their own lands from contracts with the Arab landowners in the area. The issue started after World War II. Due to the combination of a international wave of decolonization and the Holocaust, the British Mandate of Palestine was made independent in 1948 and to fulfull the request for a Jewish state, Israel was created from the Jewish majority territories while the Arab majority areas of the West Bank, Golan Heights, and Gaza Strip became Palestine. The original plan was to have the area around the center to be an international zone because it contained both Jerusalem and Bethelhelm, but the idea never panned out that well (as was the case of the Free City of Dazing which was the reason World War II began) and so they get separated between Israel and Palestine after the 1947 Arab-Israeli War which was every Arab nation that bordered Israel coming out for blood.
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  35. A. A Religion is not always going to be static in its beliefs. People can read the same text and come up with different interpretations from what others took from it. That is why there are so many denominations.
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  36. Which one? Depending on the way you call it there are two capitals.
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  37. Probably because most Europeans are Christian. Thomas Jefferson's Declaration of Independence was also influenced by John Locke but Locke was certainly influenced by Christian ideas.
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  38. Except it is hard to all it an occupation when Palestine wasn't deemed a separate state until very recently. And they are only occupying it because they have been attacked multiple times with the attackers wanting to wiped them out.
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  39. Yeah I hate when people complained about Israel attacking and said it was a war crime but ignored Hamas using those places as living shields from retaliation is a war crime itself.
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  40.  @HistorywithCato  Well they weren't forced out they bought the land legally.
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  41.  @HistorywithCato  Except they weren't.
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  42.  @HistorywithCato  It wasn't a ethnic cleansing.
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  43.  @HistorywithCato  They do but they need to stop having Hamas committing terrorism if they really want it.
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  44.  @anakinthemannequin69  Palestine wasn't occupied given that is is considered Israel.
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  45.  @anakinthemannequin69  No they actually don't
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  46. I always hate people try to invoke Godwin's law on a state that founded in response to his atrocticies.
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  47. Anatolia is literally all of Turkey east of the straits. You are saying there shouldn't be Turkey.
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  48. That was what the left said about the Third World since the end of World War II.
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  49. Sort of. Palestine isn't considered part of Israel by anyone who doesn't live in that region. The Israeli government considers it sovereign but due to border skrimishes, they keep the IDF on alert and they frequently have to come in due to attacks by Hamas.
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