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Comments by "Ember Fist" (@emberfist8347) on "The Left Is WRONG About Prisons" video.
@david-468 Well some asylums were pretty bad but we still need more mental institutions instead of prisons being used to hold mentally ill people who need professional help.
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@yevgeniygrechka6431 It is only the case in the US because most states don’t have the death penalty unlike India or China.
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@shelbyspeaks3287 ok conspiracy nut.
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@TheAIKnowledgeHub Except making that question illegal is a disaster waiting to happen. I mean they should be allowed to ask someone applying to be a teacher if they had been to prison for assaulting minors.
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@RezaQin Most of them in jail had larger crimes but took a plea deal to lower their charges to owning pot.
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@trigjones Ok conspiracy nut. FYI most drug users spend less than year behind bars.
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@elephantman2112 there is no thing as a victimless crime.
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They should have learned a trade before they went for crime.
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@toddtravis2596 the Supreme Court judges it and you are showing the problem of mob mentality.
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@aaronleedescombes Name 5
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@aaronleedescombes How about for drugs the cartels are victimizing others to get you those drugs? As for moonshine, making it wrong can have some very nasty side effects, selling raw milk still makes them victims is it goes wrong,
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@GodOfOrphans No it is because it is torture.
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@GodOfOrphans Nobody enforces the lemonade stand thing which I am pretty sure is BS. The drug thing isn't extant circumstances it is extremely common. You could name only one drug but every drug including that one are big money for the cartels. My point behind the other examples are how your examples don't hold much water as victimless crimes as the laws are made to avoid crimes that have victims.
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@GodOfOrphans It isn't pre-crime it is called conspiracy to commit a crime.
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@GodOfOrphans But you never said if there was any intent or not in those examples though. It could have gone either way.
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Except that claim isn’t completely true. Most drug users serve less than a year. Also if you already committed a felony you did something serious so aren’t victims because they can’t get apartment they shouldn’t have done the felony to begin with.
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@pariah_carey The list of non-violent offenses include arson, burglarly, and fraud. Those people need to be in prison.
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Only because crime rates are based on the crimes that are reported.
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@trigjones And they can and do have their contracts revoked.
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Ah the eugenicst.
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Except that is cruel and unusual punishment which is illegal because of the bill of rights. Also there is no such as a victimless crime.
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@GodOfOrphans No whipping is indeed a cruel punishment.
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@GodOfOrphans Drugs: Tell that to the people who are victimzed by the cartels. Owning guns without a permit: You can easily pass a background check to get a permit unless you have a felony on your record. Owning explosives: Same deal they are regulated but not completely outlawed if you have a legitmate reason to own explosives you can obtain a permit for it. Owning Brass Knuckles: I think you can get a permit for that but that is still absurd. I will concede the final one but you had to use extant circumstances to get it dubbed a victimless crime.
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@GodOfOrphans I was asking OP.
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@shelbyspeaks3287 What the hell are you talking about?
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@nokeksgiven No it is not.
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@nokeksgiven You provide no evidence to your claim.
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I don’t the sex offenders should be counseled.
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Except most people imprisoned for drugs had more serious crimes to their names too.
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@wubuck79 But coke addicts do commit more serious crimes as do their dealers the possession charge is what goes on the record as they almost invariably take plea deals.
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Those last two are illegal thanks to the bill of rights forbidding cruel and unusual punishment.
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@trigjones Except they don’t. Most are out in a year and they actually had other crimes on their charges too before those were dropped.
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@trigjones What involvement?
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That 20 is probably in prison because they assaulted someone and resisted arrest too. The weed was the charge the police didn’t drop after he made a plea deal.
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@thomasbel4193 It should actually as the cartels getting big money from the stuff.
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@thomasbel4193 Except they wouldn’t there would be a market for weed that isn’t taxed. That is why there is a black market for other stuff that is still legal.
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We need these sort of laws as when you don’t have laws people can do terrible stuff and get away with it. For example in the early 2000s some Filipino hackers released one of the most destructive viruses in the history of computers but the hackers were never charged as the Philippines had no laws against making computer viruses.
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@zhoupact8567 Except that is not in the case. Despite the damage technically everything those hackers did was Legal so they couldn’t punished them. That is why we tend to have so many laws seen as absurd.
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Except most private prisons don’t work like that.
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@dallascopp4798 He was also probably for shooting at the police but he made plea deal.
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We already there are different levels of security for different types of prisons. White collar criminals go to minimum security facilities while the Ed Gliens and the Manson family goes to federal pound me in the ass prison.
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If they committed a felony they should have consequences. Felons are stealing loaves of bread they are burning down buildings.
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@mervunit Except the representatives mean you are being representative and the plants you are growing are illegal so don’t surprised you are getting arrested for it. Also you advocated for vigilantism which isn’t legal because it is wrong.
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@Ajourneyofknowing Where am a wrong?
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@Ajourneyofknowing So cartels don’t victimize people is what you are saying.
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Most of those people did more serious crimes though. It is never just drugs.
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Well there were still gangsters like Capone and Bonnie and Clyde but criminals like that were an issue before the depression.
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That is called cruel and unusual punishment.
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