Comments by "Ember Fist" (@emberfist8347) on "Athlete Wins With Gay Panic Defense" video.

  1.  @SeanWinters  That statement wasn’t in the original police report.
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  2. Not assault but rape by deception.
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  3.  @mouseutopiadystopia24601  Rape by deception. Using false claims to obtain consent is illegal.
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  4.  @SeanWinters  The knife wasn’t mentioned in the original police report.
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  5.  @SeanWinters  The fact the defendant didn’t mention the knife in his statement to the police means he either lied to them or lied on the stand.
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  6.  @mouseutopiadystopia24601  That is the law.
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  7. Not just messed up very illegal.
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  8.  @xijujangliti4906  No but lying about your identity which occurred in this case is.
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  9. No rape by deception is already a crime.
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  10.  @anakinthemannequin69  So you are telling me someone who went in under the impression they were going to have sexual relations with a female, only to have a male do it isn't rape by deception? That is wrong.
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  11. No it is rape by deception don’t victim blame. Using false pretenses to obtain consent makes the consent null and void.
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  12. It is considered rape. Rape by deception is what it is called when you use false statements or pretenses to obtain consent.
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  13. There is already a law about using deception to get someone to consent to a sexual encounter. The encounter is then considered r**e
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  14. He was r**ed
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  15. There is a counter. The “victim” committed r**e
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  16.  @startagain675  Please tell me you are being sarcastic.
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  17.  @startagain675  It is just hard to read sarcasm with just text.
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  18. Because it isn’t homophobic. The man was the victim of r**e
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  19. It is not homophobic to get mad over being r**ed
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  20. So you are victim blaming for victim of r**e
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  21.  @ActualJusticeWarrior  No it is rape. Making false claims to get consent is still rape.
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  22. Well we can’t because they were murdered. In short everyone in this situation sucks.
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  23.  @typingcat  There is a thing called rape by deception which is when you try to have sex with someone by pretending to be someone else.
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  24.  @MrBuns-yi2hk  Rape by deception is a perfect explanation for what this situation was.
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  25.  @carlsnyder4833  This was rape by deception sorry this is already illegal. Don’t victim blame.
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  26.  @carlsnyder4833  No it is. Lying about your identity counts as rape by deception
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  27. He was r**ed
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  28.  @mouseutopiadystopia24601  It is illegal to get consent through deception and since the guy lied and claimed he was a woman that makes this situation rape.
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  29. Not likely. This was a case of r**e
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  30. Legally it is r**e. Consent is considered null and void if you use false pretenses to obtain it.
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  31. Even when the person involved committed a criminal act.
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  32. No he did not know.
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  33.  @ActualJusticeWarrior  Still makes it r**e by deceptionz
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  34. Yep the dude committed rape
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  35.  @xijujangliti4906  what he did is called rape by deception because about who he actually was.
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  36. It is actually r**e by deception. This is a separate law for when you obtain consent by using false pretenses.
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  37.  @thatoneweirdkidthatyoudisl6723  It didn’t as it wasn’t carried out by the state.
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  38.  @tonywatts2584  It is a law called rape by deception making any false claims to obtain consent is deemed rape by the law.
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  39.  @tonywatts2584  It is rape by deception so yes it is.
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  40. @Anonymité404 No you should because rape by deception is a crime
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  41.  @Chris-xt8io  If you use that to try to obtain consent for sex it is.
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  42. @Anonymité404 Well perhaps we need to standardize rape by deception laws.
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  43.  John Pruett  That is a blatant lie.
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  44.  @tonywatts2584  Except there is evidence he did this crap in the past and if this was a weird role play why the hell did Jerry change his online profile to that of a woman almost half his age?
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  45.  @tonywatts2584  You don't change a public online dating profile for a roleplay. And the entire reason Etute went to Jerry was finding out Jerry r**ed him.
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  46.  @tonywatts2584  Not for a public dating site which is what he did this wasn’t a private discord server.
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  47.  @tonywatts2584  You are arguing in circles all by yourself. it was r**e plain and simple.
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  48.  @tonywatts2584  That is not even why he went there he went there because Jerry r**ed him
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  49.  @tonywatts2584  You are not paying attention man. I answered it already.
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  50.  @tonywatts2584  I already gave my answer.
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  51.  @4i4kov  No it wasn't and it would not.
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  52. Should have reported him to cops. This was r**e
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  53. I would report him to the police for r**e
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  54.  @anakinthemannequin69  No this was textbook r**e by deception. Using false pretenses to get consent is illegal.
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  55.  @anakinthemannequin69  So you are assuming motives of people that don’t match the facts and don’t listen to the law which says this is rape
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  56. There was enough reasonable doubt to avoid murder charges.
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  57. Rape is not something only women can experience that is one of the most ignorant and terrible takes I have seen in my whole life.
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  58.  @Toolingabout  No it is indeed illegal a legal term and is an illegal man. You are just flat out wrong.
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  59.  @Toolingabout  Virginia law section 18.2-67.4 covers rape by deception.
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  60. I only have this to say. Everyone in the situation sucks. The guy who catfished was a terrible person and given the false pretenses, probably committed r**e, but so is the defendant who got a posse to commit what is basically vigilante action when there are other less violent avenues.
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  61. No he was not gay.
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  62.  @charleswidmore1071  He isn’t this was r**e by deception
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  63. That is agreeing with the law. It is illegal to obtain consent by using false claims including claims about your identity.
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  64. No we do. It is legally called r**e by deception.
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  65.  @3mvtabigjake794  No this is typical r**e by deception. Lure a person to a dark place to have sex with them pretending to be someone else. It is illegal to get consent through false pretenses.
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  66.  @3mvtabigjake794  if that is the reason she consented then yes
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  67.  @3mvtabigjake794  So you are victim blamer
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  68. It is victim blaming as he was a victim of r**e
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  69. Most r**e by deception cases like this happen in dark places.
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  70.  @Stinker2029  The dude is already known as a sex offender for the actions he did which is rape.
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  71. There is a form of rape for this scenario rape by deception.
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  72. If the room is dark enough you can.
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  73. I hope not as it should be thrown out for the fact they committed r**e
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  74. It was technically done with consent but the fact false pretenses were used to obtain it is classified as rape by deception.
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  75. No he was r**e. It was in a dark room.
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  76.  @88Marlo  Typical cases of this type of crime do take place in dark rooms.
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