Comments by "John Crawford" (@JohnCrawford1979) on "Windows 7 Users In 2023 Are Psychos" video.

  1. This is why I don't use Steam that much, because it is just renting. You pay how much you would to own a game to rent it. For now, you may mock Win 7 users for being frustrated for what is effectively planned obsolescence, but then, why be mad at Ubuntu and other major Linux distros when they choose not to support older versions? Valve may support and run on Linux for now, but they are not beholden to remain doing so. They don't even have to continue to use Chrome. Win 7 an XP are not unsafe, and I think there is a good case to make that, when older OSes do get put on planned obsolescence that the company that no longer supports the OS no longer has control or rights over how people may use it, and effectively make it free and open source. Plus, look at what the retro gaming community, and demo scene, that utilize old computers as far back as the Amiga and Atari ST. You can even find people that try to refurbish old Commodore PET to play some of the most ancient versions of Snake. Then there's the Atari consoles and people that make home brew games for thr 2600, 7800, even the 5200. These are console and computers that, for some, even their original company has long went out of business. Security-wise, there's few people left that even know how to program on them, let alone want to make viruses in BASIC. not to mention, with RAM based computers, you just turn them off, and the malware is killed because RAM is short term memory, which is shut off when the computer shuts off. You're selling the Win 7, and the XP argument short. It's not just about Steam, but also a mater of right to ownership and right to repair. The only thing that makes Win 7, XP, or even earlier versions of Ubuntu obsolete is that the people that once worked on it no longer do so. So why can't those that, for whatever reason, decide they want to use the OSes form communities that continue to work on support on their own? Isn't this, in a way, how Linux carries on, and part of why we have so many distros is because of older distro that are no longer around, but there is still a dedicated community that forks off of them? Why is it laughable for Win 7 and XP to now become free and open source distros of their own right? Especially when the company that used to support them abandoned them. It doesn't even matter that the company that abandoned them still exist, for then you might as well say Ubuntu shouldn't exist because Debian still exists. Or, a little closer in similarity, Fedora and other Red Hat distros shouldn't exist because Red Hat still exists, open source copyright notwithstanding. Because, legally, such copyrights don't seem to hold water anyways, since Redhat can trample over it anyway and say it's their code and they can use it however they want, regardless, and the courts seem to side with Red Hat. Anyway, and as it is, GOG wouldn't have existed, nor would Steam eventually pick up certain classic games, like Doom, if it wasn't for abandonware. It's only later, after companies that still held the licenses realized they could still profit from older games, that the older games wound up on Steam and consol stores, or repackaged in all-in-one nostalgia console cash grabs. Because otherwise, the argument would remain that people got ROMs for old abandoned games because either no one was selling them, the originals became insanely expensive collectibles that no one wanted to damage the hardware, so ROM backups were the better option to play them, or just simply the game companies no longer supported them, or no longer existed to support them - hence being called abandonware. All I'm saying is there's more to the story, and a lot more that ought to be hashed out legally, which gets into the archaic views we have of copywite, and how they work (or how abusive and dysfunctional they are) in modern contracts, licensing, etc. if anything, Linux and the abandoned OSes like Win 7 and XP are on a similar path. When it comes to rights of ownership, what it means to have community driven support for an OS, and being able to maintain these things. Steam shouldn't be beholden fo chrome. But moreover, your argument about security of an OS that has to rely on a dedicated community for support is shooting Linux in the foot. Linux is a diverse community that has people dedicated to updating and maintaining the particular distros that have built up to become a community. The difference for Win 7 and XP is they are already a built up community that has been abandoned. The probably are mad most especially at Microsoft, so the lashing out at Steam is from putting salt on an already open wound. What would you say to them if you continued having trouble with Windows native games, with Wine and Proton failing to get them to work, and they said, "Just give up and run Windows!" Oh, right, some did say that, and yet you didn't give up on Linux, despite you could have gotten on Win 10 or 11 for free. But hey, that's the banter among competition.Yet now that they have reached the time of forced obsolescence, they don't have to be enemies any more. They can help push for a more free and open world that isn't subject to the whims of big tech on whether we are made obsolete, or otherwise get locked out simply because the choose to do so.
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  2. They are oly having the maintenance issue because of dependency on Chrome. There isn't anything Steam has to patch regarding 7, or XP, especially if they keep up with existing Windows packages. Chrome decided to cut support for Win7, and Steam depends on Chrome which is sad really. For I still consider chromium malware, and probably a good reason to stay off of Steam anyways.
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  3.  @windowsxseven  - Of course you won't 🤡
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  4. Despite DRM being around for decades, not many people know or understand what that is. Likewise, not many people understand that a hold is put on their card if they pay at the pump with a card. Never mind that said pumps are likely still being run on XP, despite the supposed security threats, and are trusting using their bank cards in the system. Granted, the biggest security threats to these cards are CityBank, who has a way of screwing over their customers by leaking out their data periodically.
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  5. Plus, for those that aren't on Linux, the concept of repositories maintained by the particular Linux community is the same as going to some weird website that nobody knows about. Plenty of people see the AUR and git hub as such weird websites that are a security risk.
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  6. I'm sure they do blame Microsoft as well. Valve just put salt into an already open wound.
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  7. While I agree, Microsoft can, and does limit, if not completely deny use and access of things like their cloud services, and other thing online may be broken from use without a patch or workaround.
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  8. Digital rights isn't necessarily bad. It's when companies choose to use it for why they can take away products that you purchased from them. However, we do need some type of digital rights that is fair for both those that make a product and those that purchase and/or use a product.
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  9. So what if they get laughed at for trying to stand up for their rights? I guess unless still salty for all the times Windows and Mac users laughed at Linux for being so uncompatible for so long, and still has some issues. Sure, what goes around, comes around. But that itself is a psychotic response that only continues a vicious cycle of resentment.
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  10. Yes, I agree that Chrome is a known vulnerable browser, which is why I never use Chrome. It started off as malware and continues to be malware to this day. Just yet another reason to drop Sream, if the prefer to have malware as a major component of their client.
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