Comments by "Earth " (@earth0128) on "COURT TV" channel.

  1. This poor child never stood a chance, she was surrounded by such risks and evil. May her soul be at peace, I'm sorry you were not protected Breasia, be free and fly high ✨🩷
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  2. This officer is to be respected, he will never forget what he has seen. His courage to tell the court is admirable. Such a asset to society unlike the accused.
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  3. This poor child was failed, her life was taken so cruelly. The testimony of how her remains were found was tough to hear. The level of depravity this poor soul endured is beyond words. I hope justice is served.
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  4. Justice must be served,these killers are a danger to society.
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  5. It still amazes me how these people think they are going to get away with these crimes. The mind boggles 😕
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  6. The lawyer certainly has a steep hill to climb. She knew she was pregnant her actions resulted in the death of a baby, she needs to face punishment and face the consequences.
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  7. The accused and her mother need to take accountability, to say she got off lightly is an understatement. Her aggressive behaviour whilst using a deadly weapon and her inability to control aggressive impulses seem to have been influenced by both genetic and environmental factors resulted in the passing of 2 innocent lives. Welcome to reality.
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  8. There is clear evidence of neglect, I will never understand her lack of action to her child's issues. Deepest sympathy to all the victims and families.
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  9. Double life indeed! Praying they can get everything they can and it can be proven beyond any doubt. Sympathy to all victims and those affected. It's heartbreaking 💔
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  10. This is beyond comprehension, she should be made to feel the same pain and anguish her child did.
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  11. Mother should be charged!
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  12. The way he says " involved in a shooting" talk about minimising the facts. More like you chased someone down and shot him. No excuses IMO
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  13. I still can't believe she walked away. Her actions are beyond comprehension. The poor lads must have been terrified, forgiveness would not be possible for me if I was a family member.
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  14. This doofus could try and trip up this witness all day ... Never gonna 😂
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  15. This is real life, Proctor has let himself down and he knows it. It's important to look at the evidence and not allow emotions to lead. It's very difficult. The victim gets lost in all the dramatics. R.I.P. John O' Keefe.
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  16. I'm still trying to get my head around what is so funny? Compassion and professionalism is at a all time low for court TV. My thoughts are with all affected by this case, I hope LE can gather every last bit of evidence they need to get justice for all the victims.
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  17. This makes my brain hurt, no mother acts like this. Should be charged too!
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  18. I'm so pleased Eric's sister spoke, she truly said what was needed to potray the evil person she really is. She was so brave to stand up in court and tell the world what she truly is. R.I.P. Eric
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  19. This case is beyond comprehension. The roots of madness in this family run deep. There were never going to be any winners. So sad for the children to be left with such loss. 💔
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  20. This piece of work is lucid and very manipulative if given a chance.
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  21. Happens more than we all want to admit... Chris watts, Scott Petersen, the family members were in the way so they remove them! They lie all the way to the jail, self preservation. Narcissism at it's very worst 😥
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  22. I can't believe these victims didn't receive justice, just shows even with eye witnesses a conviction is not guaranteed.
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  23. This case was not handled properly, it reminds me of the Madeline McCann case, the mystery and false information that surrounds these cases is beyond frustrating. Praying both get solved, justice is overdue 🙏
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  24. This individual still shocks me to the core, I don't know how she can live with herself. Those poor children 💔
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  25. There is always more to a relationship than others see, but the fact she entered the house with 2 weapons eliminates self defense in my opinion. If she was so afraid she should never have gone in the house. The police were present, her actions were aggressive and led to a man's death.
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  26. Breasia should never have been anywhere near this man! The mother and grandmother both failed Breasia.
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  27. This case proves that men like this can never change, they lurk and pounce at an opportunity. Breasia should have been protected! Many failed Breasia, 😢
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  28. What a terrible shock to a community. It really can happen anywhere. What a betrayal to so many people. My sympathy to the family and friends. 💔
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  29. I will never be able to comprehend how he could do this to Harmony 😢 ✨Harmony needs to be found and receive justice ✨
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  30. There is no way anyone else unalived Eric she had means, motive and opportunity. Her true colours are exposed, pure greed drove her actions. Life behind bars is needed.
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  31. Don't think G.Hughs will be back on court TV anytime soon 😮
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  32. Will be interesting to see what the defense comes up with, this is not just a DNA case in my opinion.
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  33. This was one crazy case, I've never heard of it before. The snippets of trial shown showed what characters were at play.
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  34. They both belong in prison cells
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  35. The fact she can still smile and smirk tells me everything i need to know. They are both beyond disgusting.
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  36. Can you imagine being in a car with that woman for hours... Ear plugs in and audio record 👍 They all need a medal
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  37. So glad you escaped! Best wishes to you and all 🩷💫
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  38. Need my headphones for this one, if I can get through listening to his lies 😔
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  39. That case made this judge rethink her own life. Respect and stength to her. ❤
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  40. I'm from the UK and this case is very interesting but just also so terribly sad, but his defense team are certainly doing their jobs. Evidence will show in the trial what the public are not privy to.
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  41. As another comment I read, all evidence seems to point to no intruder and they had knowledge
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  42. That's what consequences look like. Jury got it right 👍
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  43. Respect to defendant, she sounded genuine 👍he wanted his day in court... 🤔 It may backfire on his ass!!!!
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  44. The Judge knew what he was dealing with, a pos. R.I.P. Timothy 💜
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  45. I believe his account up until the end, he had help with disposing poor Natalie. I can't imagine what her parents are feeling 💔
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  46. Let's hope they can arrest her too 🙏
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  47. If his lips are moving he is lying
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  48. I feel sorry for Judge Newman having to look at that face again
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  49. This is heartbreaking 💔 They both deserve to be haunted for the rest of their days. R.I.P. Harmony.
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  50. Doesn't matter where they are from, their actions caused his death. They should face both civil/ criminal charges. Education is the key, you are in the devil's playground whilst online. R.I.P. Jordan ✨
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  51. The passing of the tissue was a wasted one, she has nothing but dry eye. Actually looks like she was poking herself in the eye. Greed and no conscience got her where she is. R.I.P. Eric
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  52. This victim and the community is to be respected, her strength to call for help is overwhelming. This shows that vigilance and looking out for your neighbours is so important. So pleased this animal is out of society. Respect to the attending officers.
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  53. They both sound scripted to me, I don't believe the mother (if she can be called that) didn't know what was happening. He used her to get to Madeline it went on for years. At the least she should be arrested for child neglect. She let the monster into her home and gave access to her daughter. Such a twisted mess they both belong in prison.
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  54. I can't believe parole is even an option, the parents should be jailed too.
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  55. All those recorded phonecalls, they are so arrogant, desperate and foolish. What a family! I'm thinking of the children caught up in this tragic mess.😞
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  56. Remember who put both families in this nightmare, the driver did.
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  57. He's letting him show his true colours, the judge is no fool.
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  58. It appears she only has herself to blame for any backlash, she gave the defense the window of opportunity. What a mess.
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  59. Justice for Maya ❤
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  60. Exactly, I'm sure she was, poor child 😢
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  61. Such a betrayal to this poor woman 💔 If only she hadn't shown him her cards she could have brought him down legally. What a coward, full of self pity.
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  62. Such an awful case why kill a man that was a good father, such depravity and darkness makes me incredibly sad but relieved for the families and friends that have justice, they were his voice❤️
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  63. There is a direct link between his parents and the crime's he committed. They failed to act when their son was mentally ill. He may have pulled the trigger but his parents are guilty too. This case highlights the need for intervention where children are presenting anti social ( red flags) behaviours.
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  64. One of these cases alone is tragic, and each case is different. But seeing them altogether just hit's home the devastation and pain they have caused to so many. The victims can't be forgotten, hoping justice is served.
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  65. Seemed like staging but why write a novel of a ransom letter in the first place. So bizarre
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  66. Its a crime in itself that this is still unsolved, his mother and family have waited long enough for Stephen to get justice. The truth needs to come out. Prayers to the family R.I.P. Stephen
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  67. Enabled and entitled.
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  68. These people think they are in a movie, in real life they are just evil .
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  69. This prosecution is doing a fantastic job. Evidence is clear and powerful. Those poor souls ✨💔✨💔 took by such darkness. Praying for justice. 🙏
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  70. I feel for the man as he was injured, good luck to him! 👍
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  71. He will never admit what he has done, even from prison he still has to be relevant. He deserves nothing but long, hard prison time.
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  72. Agreed 💯
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  73. So very sad, such disregard for life.💔 Hoping Le can find who did this.
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  74. 🙏 for you to have a child
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  75. 💚💚 Sebastian 💚💚
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  76. This case is so crazy and disturbing, I need to see every minute😮
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  77. Absolutely 💯
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  78. The restraint they had is admirable
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  79. Exactly, so very true!
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  80. This thing needs to be removed from this world. My thoughts and sympathy are with all affected by this tragedy. It's beyond comprehension what he did to those precious souls.
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  81. This heartbreaking case reminds us how evil is walking amongst us. I pray the LE/ prosecution have enough evidence to present in court.
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  82. Long wait ... 😕
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  83. I appreciate all the takes from the panel, LE should be able to link it all together. In my opinion there could be a cross over of perpetrators using the same dumping ground. It's horrifying but hopefully all the victim's will get justice soon.
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  84. From report they had food stamps for the special needs son.
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  85. The captain could hardly speak 😢 Justice is needed, pronto 🙏
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  86. So true. Me, myself and I.
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  87. A new judge is needed!
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  88. They are all shameless 😔
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  89. Poor soul 😔
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  90. 8TB is a crazy amount!! A life time of storage... And a challenge to go through. 😮
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  91. There never was a genuine tear, just a load of snot and self pity. Hard to watch again, still can't believe he did that to his family. 💔
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  92. Narcissists have been around forever, they are all over.
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  93. They had the best eye witness come forward it's madness or worse
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  94.  @lovepet4565  I can't even watch the trial just updates 😪
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  95. Is there not one person in this woman's life that can help her 😢 Very sad to see
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  96. Mr. Tinsley has battled for so long and I hope he can achieve his goal in this case. Mr.T. is a fighter and I wish him continued good health, someone has to battle this family and I wish him all the best. 💫💜
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  97. I'm glad the judge was named and shamed
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  98. I smell a rat
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  99. To think what those hands have potentially done, sends a shiver to the core. Praying they got him banged to rights! Poor souls need justice 💕
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  100. Greed
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  101. None of this would have happened if they had just moved their boat, as for the brawl the person who flung the first punch should be done for assault. There would not have been a brawl otherwise, I only see self defense from the crew man. Respect to those that intervened.
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  102. Well said! 👏👏👏
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  103. Can't believe 6 women married him, must have something I can't see. It's not looking good for him.
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  104. I'm going to say it, white and her age. Simple.
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  105. Good for you 👏 I gave up alcohol it's the best thing I've ever done.
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  106. She should be locked up indefinitely
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  107. These children deserve peace and happiness. They should not be around individuals who cause such toxic drama, no matter who they are. They are clearly just used as pawns in a tug of war, it's so destructive and pointless.
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  108. The UK 👍
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  109. Dear me... She must have something that I can't see.. 😮
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  110. Good to see another episode! Tamron is wonderful ❤ Such a sad case and such betrayal 😢
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  111. It was awful to watch
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  112. Says everything
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  113. He won't give them anything
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  114. Feel your frustration
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  115. They had collective narcissism, but the matriarch was ruler in that family.
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  116. Well aren't these guests jovial 😕 I thought this was about a man that was brutally removed for this world. I pray for the children that are caught up in this tragedy 🙏
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  117. Unless there is other evidence there is only one aggressor in my view. It's possible he mentally abused her behind closed doors but neither got out of the relationship. Very sad to see, even worse to know what eventually happened. R.I.P. Christian
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  118. It's like putting a mirror up to AH 👍
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  119. Once he is behind the cell door it will hit
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  120. People lose their senses mainly in common sense, in my opinion.
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  121. Right, if they can show that this happened it's going to cause major issues for the prosecution.
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  122. They were full of cr*p then and still are today. The poor child was an annoyance and a responsibility they simply got rid of so they could have their drug fuelled party time. Shame on them both, they deserve no mercy.
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  123. Agreed
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  124. The families must be heartbroken, no winners here. He will face karma one day. Choices are made that destroy so many. It's beyond comprehension what he did, he will be haunted until karna takes over. Deepest condolences 🙏
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  125. Yes, he is the most honourable judge around IMO
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  126. No empathy
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  127. Shockingly, they were too close to see what he was. Blinded by love.
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  128. Exactly, there was a reason he never moved or updated the house.
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  129. TY 👍
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  130. Nothing will pass his lips that will incriminate him further. I don't trust these individuals that are talking like they knew him before. It just stirs the pot, they should not be able to say anything until the trial is over.
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  131. Money talks, he will likely walk
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  132. ​ @jodisutherland4505  I get you, if they find evidence that shows she knew then she will have to face her actions. I have compassion but there must be a consequence/ punishment.
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  133. Not credible, why did they bother
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  134. Arrogance and self preservation drives them to a trial. The prosecution has top cards and strategically playing them.
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  135. First line of defense... Deny The set was a tragedy waiting to happen, if it hadn't have been poor Halyna it would have been someone else. Would Alec have checked the weapon if the scene called for him to put it to his head?? I think so, he's as liable as Hannah.
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  136. Fact 😞
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  137. ​ @kimward5746 I hope they have enough complaints to make them simmer. People have been murdered. They act like they are at a comedy club 😠
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  138. Losing streak...True words spoken. The greed of this individual is sickening, praying the children can recover from such damage.
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  139. So very true, do you ever really know someone... 🤔
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  140. This case was so senseless and just so cruel. This poor man was a good man and his life was brutally taken. The children have lost their father, so accountability, truth and justice is needed. I hope light is put on all the guilty individuals.
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  141. The weight loss is telling
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  142. The prosecution is cleaning the house! Respect 👍
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  143. It would help if parents and guardians of children protect their children to the fullest ability. All the adults in Breasia's life failed her. There are no second chances when these types of offenders are around. They lurk and pounce at any opportunity.
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  144. Christian needs justice. His life was cut short.
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  145. Sorry for your loss 😔
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  146. She got off lightly
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  147. I'm hoping that they have enough evidence to shut this case. Saddening beyond words for the loss of these young lives. They deserve justice and the families and community deserve resolution. ❤️❤️🩵❤️
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  148. These types of situations must cause so much damage and trauma to the children. They don't ask to be born, That's the only defensive she may have. I really have empathy for them.
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  149. He was making his mother proud
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  150. Caught in the act, glad he is out of society. So disturbing 😢
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  151. Feel for the defense he really has nothing to work with, her actions were brutal. 😢 The officer's eyes haven't left her, hope he is ninja quick if needed.
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  152. He looks and sounds foolish.
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  153. Victim to survivor, I'm so pleased she had the strength and courage to get out of that nightmare.
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  154. Well said, compassion is lacking from this panel.
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  155. 💯
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  156. My guess is his wife knew nothing of the crimes, she must be in complete shock. I hope she and the children get the support they need. Kerri offers insight into this awful position families find themselves in. Truly sad for them.
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  157. You can't defend the undefendable, period. R.I.P. Timothy
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  158. Tamron, the lady in red ♥️ I think she manipulated many and more importantly the jury. She appeared so smart but chose the dumbest path in my opinion. She could had proven infidelity in a divorce but guess money was as important to her as it was to him. Greed destroys lives.
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  159. Harmony was in danger the moment she was born, everyone failed her. Many including the judge should be forever haunted by her murder. R.I.P. Harmony ✨
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  160. These 2 are evil the sooner this trial is over the better this world will be. I need to cleanse after seeing these 2. They need to fade into obscurity. So many victims, my deepest condolences to the families. ❤
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  161. Agreed, she was in the best place to have a baby. Then why did this happen? In my experience she had time and opportunity if her mother or a staff member had stayed with her we wouldn't be any the wiser. Plenty of blame to go around, she should face consequences but her mental health is off. The mother appears bat sh*t crazy in my opinion. But not one person called her out, the boyfriend, the school, family members on both sides. She presented at the hospital and she raised red flags in just her demeanour alone. Hindsight is not helpful as what is done is done.
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  162.  @mariapilarme  But their downfall is their own inflated ego and entitlement with a good dose of lack of empathy. Some would say narcissism. Well if the cap fits.
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  163. Didn't take him long to get his interview, he can talk and he knows it.
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  164. Thanks for the family tree! 👍
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  165. Poor Stephen 💔 Praying evidence and answers are found. Sympathy to all affected.
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  166. It's hard to believe 😭
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  167. It's uncomfortable to watch
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  168. That punishment would fit the crime
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  169. It doesn't matter where you are from, it's extortion. It resulted in his death. Their actions resulted in a death. It's criminal.
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  170. It's awful to watch 😢
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  171. She can't even squeeze a tear out, this is what evil looks like. The suffering she caused that sweet child is unfathomable 😢
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  172. Such rage, she should have got help. No second chances. Respect and condolences to Christian's family and friends. 💔
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  173. Exactly, it would seem the perpetrators are given more protection than the victims.
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  174. The best 💫
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  175. This so called mother is twisted, certainly no victim. She failed to protect Madeline, lock her up already!
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  176. I have to agree why now? I fear money is the driving force 😢
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  177. I'm not a fan of either, Cardi B lost her temper and if injury was cause she is responsible. The other is based on evidence, time will tell.
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  178. 👏👏👏
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  179.  @circus-music-  exactly, there should be a chain of documentation of all DNA from the scene.
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  180. Don't rely on the picture perfect, these cases prove that. No house, partner guarantees happiness. It comes from you.
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  181. This is truly heartbreaking Respect to the officers taking him alive. The individual is disassociated from this world.
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  182. ​ @lica1598 it appears many mistakes were made.
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  183. ​ @pamferguson2605 no intruder, it was within the family
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  184. Well said
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  185. I go to sleep listening, then have to rewatch when I wake up! 😅
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  186. Like many before him, he will try and keep control from the inside and another report stated he was talking to his wife. Wouldn't that be an interesting phone call 😕
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  187. Of course he wants cameras, going to be few under the bus if he gets the chance. Shame on them both, they deserve no attention at all !
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  188. I can't believe this is happening. Did noone know? To think I chose not to be a mother but i would have adopted Harmony. Those two monsters deserve to be haunted for the rest of their lives. R.I.P. Harmony. 🩷
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  189. Self pity and entitlement is what I hear.
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  190. This judge restored my faith in humanity. To have lost his own son and to remain professional is admirable. The words the judge spoke will resonate with many. Judge Newman is truly a good man first, fantastic judge second. Respect 💟
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  191. ​ @_phileo at this stage there is no point in your words. No disrespect but there are no winners here. Karma will call for him one day.
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  192. These two are scary. Definitely true for them the following: " beauty is in the eye of the beholder" They are dark souls 💔
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  193. Self pity is all I hear.
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  194. Two words= Black Widow 😢
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  195. Good point
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  196. The trigger was he was going to be cut off. He chose to remove them. He deserves every minute behind bars. Sympathy to all victims 🙏
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  197. Question I have too
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  198. Fact
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  199. Sorry for your loss
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  200. This case is a reminder that there are those amongst us capable of such shocking, disgusting acts. Praying the truth comes out, those beautiful souls need justice. The bravery of Liberty still astounds me 💔
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  201. I agree, whatever happened she put her children in danger.
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  202. Me also her voice is soothing
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  203. Her attitude throughout has stunk, no visible remorse. I think she hated Jorge, her brain is pickled from years of abuse. It's time wasting in my opinion.
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  204. I really feel for them
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  205. It's her crying that did it for me,sounds like she is laughing. He had brain damage in my opinion, what's her excuse? What a manipulative piece of work.
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  206. ​ @Galaxie08  Bet he did 😖
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  207. I'm sorry but he is guilty as sin!! 🤦 But rightly so innocent until proven guilty....
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  208. Mrs coffee.... whatever her name is... talks such rubbish. Melanie talks sense 👍
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  209. We all have opinions, but unless you have been in a relationship with abuse ( and there are many sorts) it's hard to understand others situations and choices.
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  210. We have all witnessed a miracle!
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  211. Gross negligence.. this whole situation is gross!
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  212. Well said
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  213. They should be forced to say sorry live on air, went too far this time 😭
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  214. I question their mental capacity, their actions are horrific. That poor child was treated like a animal. They both belong in prison cells.
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  215. Consequences have come knocking for both of them.
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  216. Respect to you 🤗
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  217. Many failed that baby
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  218. Lol 🤣🤣
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  219. How can anyone but them know, it's blatant disrespect and sensationalism at its worst.
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  220. Sadly when unconscious it can happen in very little water
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  221.  @karlamarcellus4941  I agree with you, we may never hear what she was actually thinking. Let's hope they can prove she knew, digital etc.
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  222. The writing was on the wall way before this tragedy. The parents were negligent and should lose their liberty long term. One day (Ethan) will be grown and must be kept out of society. No second chances in my book.
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  223. One tooth Tucker sure is confident... Over confident 🙃
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  224. This video says so much about her, "my kids" she clearly used the children to control and manipulate the situation. The nature of her appears vindictive and calculating. In my opinion she thrives on toxic drama.
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  225. The following is from Google. Court documents, filed by attorneys for the 28-year-old PhD student last week, argue that DNA from two other men was also found inside the off-campus student home in Moscow, Idaho. DNA from a third unknown man was also found on a glove found outside the property on 20 November – one week on from the murders, the documents state. “By December 17, 2022, lab analysts were aware of two additional males’ DNA within the house where the deceased were located and another unknown male DNA on a glove found outside the residence on November 20, 2022,” Mr Kohberger’s attorney Jay Logsdon writes in the filing. “To this date, the Defense is unaware of what sort of testing, if any, was conducted on these samples other than the STR DNA profiles. Further, these three separate and distinct male DNA profiles were not identified through CODIS leading to the conclusion that the profiles do not belong to Mr. Kohberger.”
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  226. ​ @mol588 I immediately thought that too
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  227. Absolutely 🫶
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  228. ​@@niemand98the longest unknown fact, who was the author?
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  229. Agreed. It appears many lies have been told.
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  230. Such a fantastic host 🙂
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  231. Mother's arrogance and lack of empathy is hard to watch. My thinking is that something is wrong in the family, for her not to tell a single person of the pregnancy. The secrecy is the issue in my opinion, her actions are appalling and she needs punishment. But there are many people that could/ should have done more.
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  232. Such horror for all concerned. Strength and peace to all affected 💟
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  233. The service announcement is very off putting 😮
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  234. I have to remind myself the accused is a man, sure looks feminine to me. What a messed up situation this is.... He sure doesn't help himself!
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  235. More like an army sergeant
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  236. The Jury made the right decision in so taking every last bit of power and control he had. His acts were evil.
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  237. ​ @SuzanneO707 they were only objects to him, revenge killings for sure. Narcissism at its worst.
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  238. It is shocking what a human is capable of, much should be taken from this sad, avoidable case.
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  239. Judge letting him talk... True colours are on display
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  240. Absolutely 💯
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  241. ​ @tchili1 and the digital analysis
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  242. I can only imagine their pain and heartache after this decision, but there was not enough evidence. Such a bitter pill to swallow, karma will come around. I hope they can find peace and not let him ruin another day of their lives. So much sympathy for them ✨
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  243. 😂😂
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  244. This case is a reminder of the evil that exists. Praying the truth comes out. The press conferences and Doug Carter's emotions were telling I could feel his anger. This case runs deep. Praying for justice 🙏
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  245. Very low blow they are playing dirty. They had no right to disclose that information 😢
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  246. Absolutely
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  247. There is no remorse her actions were repulsive. She will never appreciate what he went through. Harsh sentence is needed.
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  248. They are so hyped up it's uncomfortable to watch
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  249. ​@@oneoftheabove6609yes, that's what I thought straight away. I'm in no doubt Harmony looked very much like her mom. When he hit her he was hitting the Mom. 💔
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  250. She can't have empathy, must be a narc/ psycho. Poor child 😔
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  251. So sorry 😔
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  252. His own words will be his undoing on this earth. No belief system should escape punishment.
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  253. Psychopath plain and simple
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  254. Sentence would have been longer for sure
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  255. ​ @Lil2shoes222 she refused all physical exams that in itself is a huge red flag
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  256. To try to understand how anyone could hurt a child such as sweet Harmony keeps me awake at night. Justice is long overdue. R.I.P. Harmony 🩷
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  257. Speaks volumes
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  258. The 911 call is haunting 😢 I just wish the operators could have done more. Shannon was the light that was shone on all the other victim's.
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  259. And laughing like it's a joke
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  260. I find other yt channels are not wanting to say it's police corr***ion. But it looks like it to me.
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  261. ​ DonnellOkafor I've got others = disturbing, disgusting, shocking, eye opening, scary, life changing.
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  262. Both embraced it.
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  263. They always say follow the money I tend to agree
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  264. Of course he should, he contributed to Christina's passing.
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  265. It's hard to take, a child was murdered with premeditation.
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  266. As a care assistant ditto what you said.
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  267.  @dsoutherland1747  absolutely, great reminder to us all.
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  268. This case has been an eye opener for many I hope, the lengths people will go to because they can't face their mistakes never ceases to surprise me. Hindsight is always clear, reminds us that it's choices that have consequences. My sympathy to the victim's and the families affected. 💟
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  269. ​ @rachelwalsh6116 beg to differ
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  270. These types are among us, they always have been. I trust no-one outside of my family circle,never have. These types of discussions are so important to remind us that they are living in plain sight. Victims are from all walks of life and deserve justice no matter how long it takes.
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  271. They are both responsible
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  272. If he shows no emotion he's guilty if he smiles he's guilty. Bottom line, innocent until proven otherwise.
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  273. Arrogance has been a downfall for many a killer.
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  274. The defense are struggling, this has not helped him one bit.
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  275. I'm not sure what happened but to me it sounded like John was pulling away from Karen. The children were a source of frustration but the text messages are cold from John. It's a really tough case 😢
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  276. Absolutely 💯
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  277. There is a book of evidence on her, her very own "book' should be thrown at her in court. She is so wicked.
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  278. The fact he said that out load speaks volumes. Christian was stabbed to death. Fact.
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  279. Right, I was just thinking that, however when I watched her on the stand, her true colours were obvious. This case was sickening. 😢
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  280. His actions were horrific, he will have to face karma whenever it comes for him. There are no winners just broken hearts.
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  281. They should
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  282. Pure greed, a narcissist such as this will never be happy. Nothing is ever enough. Such a waste of a good life, praying they all find peace. ✨
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  283.  @Woodman-Spare-that-tree  you missed my irony, she is walking now isn't she? Not paralysed? That's my point !
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  284. "it's a snapshot" Well it's an ugly "snapshot" She needs to take accountability. Period.
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  285. She gotta live with that
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  286. ​ @savinabees9220 she couldn't care less
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  287. ​ @lilychats5317 yes good point
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  288. This is awful, praying LE can find the perpetrator asap. Love & prayers to her children 🙏
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  289. Try Google there is plenty of information regarding this case.
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  290. ​ @innocentnemesis3519  yes, certainly confirms knowledge to me.
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  291. Anyone can see she was the aggressor. She can't get away with this. 🙏
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  292. There is clearly manipulation and premeditation.
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  293. 😢
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  294. Smelling a rat, time will tell. Those poor souls need justice. R.I.P. Abbie & Liberty 💜💜
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  295. It's unnerving
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  296. Yes, makes sense
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  297. By looking at face she is clearly brain damaged, the violence she is capable of is just frightening. Everyone has a story to tell but she had choices. To take a man's life the way she did meant the end of her liberty. The world is a safer place now.
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  298. Drunks behind a vehicle/ boat always come off better. R.I.P. Mallory 🩷
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  299. It's staggering how much that is 😮
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  300. Not one bit
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  301. Huge
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  302. Well said 👏
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  303. Her witness account is vital
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  304. It's a miracle!
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  305. It is terrifying
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  306. She has no empathy that's how she could do this
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  307. It's stacked against her, in my mind she is smearing the victim. Loose lips will sink her ship. Feel for the children 💔
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  308. ​ @lildebboston455 so unfair, he can't say what's in his heart
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  309. If they have a heart and soul they should, nothing shocks me in these high profile cases anymore. 😞
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  310. Very controlled
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  311. And yet ... She obviously feared her mother more than loving her own child. Disturbing but true.
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  312. I know what you mean, wide eyed too.
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  313. One person could easily control and overpower two people. Even if there was a chance for one to escape I believe they would never have left eachother. They were best friends and so committed to eachother.❤❤ Liberty's bravery still astounds me.❤ Justice is needed.
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  314. What a terrific gentleman 💙👍
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  315. Arrogance
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  316. Agreed, they are not qualified to talk about cases. They are not saying anything Joe public doesn't already think or say, they add nothing to the discussions of any value.
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  317. I don't know why they bother having these clowns in this case its no laughing matter.
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  318. Right, it's cruel and dehumanising
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  319. The person sat in court looks like a different man. There is clear premeditation, his acts upon this victim were sickening. He deserves zero mercy.
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  320. ​ @hotboy80baby18 who do you think is responsible? Hypothetical of course
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  321. ​ @thecozyconstellation is true, beware of all always.
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  322. ​ @Sandi-ke9mi bless your father, he knew 💟
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  323. Free choice, but sadly a dangerous choice.
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  324. ​ @MyPronounIsGoddess the whole family was there? Why? They must have known.
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  325. Me too
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  326. ​ @LawRNTx  yes, if there are messages, deleted or not they can find them.
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  327. Yes they have facades for all occasions
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  328. ​ @LizzieWhiz  I'm interested more so as in where this other DNA was found
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  329. The new team have really done well
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  330. Malicious and soulless
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  331. Repeat offender given opportunity= loss of life
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  332. Bullies ruin lives and take lives It's infuriating
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  333. ​ @veronicanevarez22 they will have to prove negligence, who knows what the team will come up with 😕
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  334. Entitlement and no boundaries is a recipe for this kind of tragedy
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  335. Exactly, he stayed to be a father.😢
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  336. He planned this, he may have even been nice to her. Tricked her in other words.
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  337. The house is a horrific reminder however it may be needed for the trial. It's far too important to take it down. Those poor souls deserve justice.
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  338. Absolutely agree
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  339. This case needs solving 🙏 but this latest narrative does not pass the sniff test in my opinion. The ransom letter is so bizarre I just can't see this individual writing that! 😳
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  340. When TBI, PTSD is involved the experts can make a evaluation based on all information to help determine his capacity. He should face time for his crime, an innocent man lost his life. However her manipulations and coersive behaviours should be considered.
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  341. ​ @virginianorby644 its beyond words 🥹💔
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  342. ​ @bennyboy2079 very likely
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  343. Greed destroys lives, all of them should have been locked up for life. The collective premeditation was beyond doubt in my opinion. The violence used was hard to hear.
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  344. True, but these are current cases.
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  345. Very naive
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  346. Like the judge already, she is stone cold lucid.
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  347. Can't watch this one... Disappointed in Court TV 😭
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  348. Dissociation for sure, sadly the baby was objectified she never had a bond whilst pregnant let alone on delivery. Things should have been so different. Poor baby.
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  349. It seems like their relationship was two way abusive but I wonder what made her unalive him that particular day. He was watching her children, was she in fear he was going to hurt the children? Of was it just red mist. The evidence seems against her but haven't watched defense opening yet. I feel for the children 😢
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  350. This child didn't stand a chance 😔
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  351. So true, each soul is precious.
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  352. ❤❤
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  353. I'm not so sure, some staff knew she was pregnant, pain relief was administered. Any legal team could defend her actions. Doesn't make it right but definitely plenty of responsibility to go around. Very sad and avoidable.
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  354. ​ @Scottishgirl754 the staff could have told the mother to leave and spoke to her alone. She is 19, legally responsible unless private otherwise. I've worked in a similar environment and things go wrong quick and many medical staff have to live with regret. Bad decision making can result in preventable outcomes. There are many to blame in this situation. She was obviously pregnant, it should never have got to this.
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  355. Had their eye on him
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  356. Can't trust people inserting themselves into a case like this.
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  357. Parental neglect = Tragic consequences
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  358. They were both abusers it was just her that snapped first, could have been either one ended up gone.
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  359. It's entirely possible she did not know anything. She should not be judged.
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  360. Absolutely
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  361. She chose to get behind the wheel, she should face life imprisonment.
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  362. They sailed past the borderline
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  363. Was wondering how and when they would go after MT. Any excuse to bring another into disrepute. Parker corp broke the law too, enough guilt to go around. Poor Malory R.I.P. 💟
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  364. The family was everyone's worst nightmare
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  365. My husband and I rescued a mixed breed that had been terribly abused. My husband said if she couldn't look him in the eye we couldn't take her. She did and we turned her around. Each dog is different but the breeding is out of control, it's all about ego and money.
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  366. It's infuriating
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  367. He is a coward
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  368. Truly is, the victims were objects to him. No empathy or remorse.
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  369. Justice came knocking eventually
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  370. Social media needs laws
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  371. ​ @lynnsmith4  it makes more sense than anything else
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  372. Digital data Camera footage Alibi for the window of crimes A witness who can potentially put him at the scene.
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  373. I'm so glad her wicked acts have been exposed. Those poor children deserve happiness and love. The neighbours are amazing and were the light on the darkness. She needs jail time yesterday!
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  374. This comment should have a thousand likes! Well said! 👌
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  375. I have to agree, manipulation it clearly seems 😢
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  376. So much tragedy, justice is long overdue. Prayers to the family
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  377. It wasn't enough to have complete control over the victims, it's pure sadism to do that to family members.
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  378. Greed
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  379. He certainly is committed
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  380.  @lildebboston455  to think what grief they are in 💔 I hope they can find peace one day.
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  381. ​ @agees924  they were, this was avoidable. Lessons will hopefully be learnt. I feel for the staff affected but they were the last defense for the baby. The young woman needs some prison time to learn what reality is.
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  382. As a 9 year old he also hit JBR with a golf club, smeared faeces on her belongings. Look into it, there are facts that point to a very disturbed 9 year old. Sad but true.
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  383. Exactly she was obviously pregnant.
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  384. In Wales, England I've followed this case.
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  385. Where is the source for this?
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  386. She is probably listening to "her lord" cringe!
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  387. Evidence and their own words soon sieves out the liars. Yes there might be underlying mental health but from what I've seen it's just ego abd entitlement. We must never lose sight of the true victims of crimes,its a complete dishonour to them otherwise.
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  388. Full on self preservation mode
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  389. I actually saw that she choked over her words with emotion.
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  390. I think they could have tried resuscitation at least.
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  391. ​ @Douglas_Hamilton exactly
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  392. ​ @karlamarcellus4941  my friend didn't say anything... Very strange but silent births do happen.
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  393. Certainly appears arrogant
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  394. It's only right the defense has been reinstated. This has gone on too long. The victims and families are lost in this chaos, wrongfully so 😢
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  395. They facilitated/ armed him. They are guilty too
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  396. Makes more sense than the current narrative
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  397. Definitely a blocked nose
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  398. It's sickening
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  399.  @mypeeps333  oh have they been sentenced yet? If not they deserve lengthy prison sentences.
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  400. I'm glad he got to age....locked up.... gracefully 👍
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  401. Good move Court TV to actually having a guest that knows what its like. I've respect for her she speaks facts from experience. Bless her heart, so honest.
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  402. Exactly, she has zero empathy
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  403. I'm confused 😕
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  404. Awful and certainly not professional
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  405. The witnesses are all stars in their own right, the loss of life is beyond tragic and justice is needed
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  406. ​ @savinabees9220 I very much doubt it, it's like she is out of her body
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  407. ​ @ciobalina7445  I totally agree, she was a threat to his ego. Coward narc.
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  408. She's sick
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  409. ​ @JenniLynn1218 it's beyond sad 😢
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  410. 💔💔
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  411. I see your point but the jury tasked with this will have all the facts that the public won't be privy to. There is always more to a case than meets the eye. This young woman is not evil and should face punishment. The situation is complex. It can't be tried by the public.
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  412. Hopefully
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  413. 🖐️
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  414.  @cecemeadows8117  Yes, obviously
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  415. Makes good sense to me
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  416. I've known parents call the time with the children as 'date night/ time.
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  417. Prosecution will rip it apart
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  418. It was objectified to her Zero bonding
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  419. She got off lightly
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  420. ​ @Michael_J_M14  defenses dream
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  421. Ikr 🙄
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  422. Yes, pity plays
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  423. 💜💜💜
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  424. ​ @Juke582  Right, digital evidence and so much more
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  425. I do she is a strong person
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  426. That's why defense wants all DNA documentation chain.
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  427. His greed was more powerful than love for his parents. 💔
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  428. Even then some don't
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  429. Best theory I've heard
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  430. ​ @beverlyhitchon4901 I can't believe their conduct
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  431. Her attorney passing the tissue is contrived
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  432. Absolutely 💯
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  433. Only she can tell her story, anything else is speculation. Her eye witness account is vital.
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  434. Certainly pushed her over the edge
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  435. This case doesn't add up, she left her children and a newborn with him. Why unalive him when she got home.
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  436. ​@faceykad8443 Who do you think is responsible? Genuine question.
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  437. I think he will get off the charge, he should have checked the weapon imo.
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  438. ​ @hypemaine9155  Exactly, letting him talk and talk. True colours will show
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  439.  @patriciascott4211  based on information available there was no intruder, it's my opinion. We all have that right thanks
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  440. Would you say that if it was your child or family member?
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  441. That's why I question his capacity with decision making, her manipulation and coersive behaviours were extreme. He must face time for taking an innocent man's life.
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  442. I hope there is not corruption but that the LE at the scene were overwhelmed, either way crucial evidence was left. Any defense will be all over that.
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  443. Yes me too, it's rare to have video etc. My concern is that it has become trial by the public.
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  444. So very true
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  445. Accountability is vital
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  446. ​ @gingersmith2888  Well said 👏
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  447. He looks about like Jordan Petersen but older 😂 on a serious note I think he might have cognitive issues now, maybe selective memory? Who knows but entertaining, pointless but entertaining.
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  448. ​ @shannondore  yes! I saw that too, he admitted it. But then took it back. Such a liar then and still half truths now 😢
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  449. Her behaviour in the elevator is telling, she lost control. I'm sure all evidence will be brought in. Possible coersive control at play on both sides. Very sad it came to this.
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  450. It's heartbreaking sending strength and best wishes 💟
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  451. I see your point
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  452. So sad 🥹
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  453. Exactly, they are the victims
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  454. It's not your fault at all, sympathy to you ✨
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  455.  @January.  Hence a fantastic business man too.
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  456. It's so eerie 😮
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  457. I think they have drinks before going on air 🙄
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  458. Truly sad
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  459. Doth protest too much
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  460. Innocent until proven guilty, all evidence must be considered.
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  461. The old saying comes to mind... " Shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted!" Much damage has been done, praying that the victims get justice one day. 🙏
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  462. She refused to have physical exams, denied pregnancy.
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  463. Good advice, red flags can be overlooked due to emotional thinking. So tragic 💔
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  464.  @mac_saauce4351  never fulfilled
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  465. ​ @MortgageGirl7 I said the same so sad for them.
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  466. Guilty knowledge at the least
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  467. She's fantastic
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  468. Lies come easy for her, will look you on the eye and do it.
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  469. It's difficult to believe Buster doesn't know more in regards to his father, he isn't stupid or blind. As long as he has his money he will be happy. He will have to think before he speaks the rest of his life. Loose lips sink ships.
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  470. Agreed, his career is vital
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  471. ​ @uneeky5785  she was never treated 19 by the staff they should have asked the mother to leave to discuss things confidentially. Hard for some to take but the staff failed their patient. Legally they were negligent.
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  472. ​ @betty8860  no doubt training and new protocols will be brought in, and rightly so.
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  473. I think so too
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  474. ​ @zephyrsky__ and that's what you took away from her interview... Wow 😳
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  475. 👌
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  476. Contempt for sure
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  477. What a delusional narcissist and psychopath. Poor girly 💔 She was in danger the moment she met him. L.H. is delusional and very ill, something snapped long time ago. Wonder if she recovered.
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  478. Good question
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  479. That's why the defense has asked for the full documentation chain of all DNA found. If there were 3 other samples whatever the status of the DNA the prosecution should be able to show that. Defense are doing all they can, although it's a steep hill to climb for them.
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  480. With all due respect I've done my research on this case, read many pieces of information available. She clearly had a strong motive to unalive Eric. The information on the internet is from different sources and that's how I came to my opinion. We all have our opinion so your comment is in itself judgemental. The victim Eric and the children are the only ones I have empathy for. Kind regards to you.
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  481. Yes, it appears ok to unalive family members then say sorry and you get off. Great message
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  482. 💯 👍
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  483. Agreed
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  484. Greed, Narcissism, entitlement
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  485. ​ @TheSacredSight-v6w who knows what her life was like
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  486.  @julesservantofjesus972  they'd already lost one child they were not going to lose another.
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  487. ​ @la-km_3828 absolutely, I've worked in healthcare and she SHOULD have been escorted
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  488. ​ @carltonwalton9819  Knowing you have one is powerful enough, no one is worth your liberty or sanity
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  489. ​ @TawnyC_ that makes sense
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  490. ​ @stephsmanicshenanigans8017 yes, I believe they found other letters, some might say practice ones 🤔
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  491. Yes, it's actually simple that is what makes it so horrifying.
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  492. Someone will recognise him, not everyone uses FB so hope this is put on all media. R.I.P. Rachel
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  493. I agree
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  494. The mother needs to think hard about why her daughter ended up in this position. Accountability is vital. The most critical potential influence of violence exposure is on childhood brain development, as alterations to the developmental trajectory of relevant brain regions will influence individual characteristics and behaviors for many years to come, into and through adulthood. Aggressive behavior and the inability to control aggressive impulses seem to be influenced by both genetic and environmental factors. She got off lightly for deliberately taking 2 lives. ( IMO)
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  495. Disturbing and brutal
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  496. ​ @Mimi197-f2z poor child 😞
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  497. Well that was disturbing to watch. Where does all this anger, hate come from? Makes me remember why I don't like public places or people for that matter. Stop the madness people! 🙏
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  498.  @micenabled9418  Alcohol brings out the worst
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  499. 5 years too long
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  500. ​ @kwiett if you have been affected by it it's something you never get over. A wrecking ball is a great way of putting it.
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  501. Her lawyer only has her side for a start, Christian can't defend her himself. Just hope all evidence is brought to trial.
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  502. Frankenstein gets me every time 😁
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  503.  @1cruzbat1  yes he was gigantic
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  504. Sick
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  505. Exactly he kicked the FBI off the case 😞
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  506. I agree 💯
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  507. Certainly looking that way
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  508. Vinny is right,you never forget a good teacher. By the evidence so far this mother obviously chose her "quality fun time" over her daughter. There is no defense, should be a DP case.
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  509. ​ @-The-Darkside yes but if people leave a comment they state as fact they should support it with a source. It's important.
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  510. That's why the defense wants all of the chain for DNA documentation.
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  511. Agreed
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  512. ​ @mariasuarez6269  many failed that poor baby Mother dearest is a major factor Both families School teachers/ friends
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  513. So sorry for your loss 💗
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  514. Not enough is being done to protect indigenous females. Shameful 😪
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  515. It's one of the best ✨
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  516. I would have given up but the case deserves the attention. It's awful though 😔
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  517. ​ @beverlyhitchon4901 I've been one of those family members and it's no fun and laughter.
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  518. Poor soul must have been so scared 💔😪
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  519. Medical staff are trained well, 15 years for me seeing patients. This doesn't even shock me what people are capable of. To have a patient do this is a nightmare, any defense attorney will argue she was left alone for too long, question the medication. She raised red flags in my opinion but no one could have foreseen this. So sad and so avoidable 💔.
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  520. I'm sure all the evidence will be brought to court
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  521. None of us know what the full evidence is. Judgement will be made on evidence not feelings. I keep reminding myself often.
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  522. 😅 came for the comments 😅
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  523. ​ @SweetT601  right, happens more than people know.
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  524. Cemeteries are not the issue here, in my opinion it's just a dot in the make up of her.
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  525. 👏 dam straight
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  526. I must have seen a different video
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  527. 👌
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  528. It's very distracting 😕
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  529. Yes, in my view he was sober
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  530. Most definitely the father is fully aware
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  531. Good point
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  532. The dude who threw the first punch looked like a murdaugh type hence I agree total arrogance and entitlement.
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  533. ​ @antbooboo5884  it puts doubt in my mind
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  534. Praying they can link him to more 🤞
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  535. Well said 👏
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  536. I think it's the judge, I read another comment that said that
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  537. ​ @slimskatie9524  I have to agree, been in the medical field for over 20 years, and opened many locked doors for young to elderly patients. I feel for the staff/ hospital however the defense will go after them. Such a tragic situation.
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  538. Massive amount
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  539. Very messy 😩
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  540. Yes knowledge is power
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  541. Innocent people don't need to lie! Simple! 👍
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  542. ​ @TraciyCurryReyes agreed
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  543.  @9babyblu  it's important to look at the bigger picture, so hard with cases like this, the victim seems forgotten. 😞 But he's not the first person to get manipulated into crime by another. He needs prison time and therapy.
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  544. This does not make sense, what sort of punishment is this? The drivel she spouted to the judge was self serving. Just another case of an entitled, sick individual who gets off lightly. The pain and suffering her father went through is obviously not important to this judge. Ridiculous!
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  545. They are doing their jobs, they only need an inch and they will take miles, if you know what I mean.
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  546. Such a heartless individual, he took their lives and appears to have no conscience. The closing argument was powerful, he showed no mercy on them so should have the same in return. Real justice is needed.
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  547. ​ @deja9462  True 👍 there has been negligence proven for lesser crimes.
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  548.  @susanmetz9892  yes I know it's obvious
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  549. Her behaviour is questionable
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  550. So brave
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  551.  @Sweet2-y7d  I can't answer that, but he did. I don't think he actually believed that she would do it. Let his guard down. It's hard to make sense of.
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  552. Well stated it's out of control
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  553. Most likely, there was no intruder
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  554. The father's words sadly mean nothing.
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  555. He left out details for sure
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  556. Seriously, how did this happen! My brain is scrambled by this 😖
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  557. ​​ @mmontes15 f she had been observed/ monitored visually things could have been very different, we wouldn't have been any wiser. Just another teenager and an unwanted baby Plenty of blame to go around
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  558. 😅😅
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  559. Judicial system needs updating
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  560. If he was aware the wife was planning to leave then his plan was hatched. It's the most dangerous time for any partner.
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  561. Exactly, life changing
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  562. I had to rewind it to make sure 😮
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  563. ​ @NotMaliciouss troll
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  564. However I think the brain may freeze
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  565. ​ @adonyisrael1724  that's ok, the information provided just says she will be in jail until her trial. I thought I saw September mentioned but that might be wrong . Kind regards.
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  566. Such an annoying filler sentence.
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  567. ​ @pamsworld5492  All points to them
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  568. At least she speaks from experience unlike some who just put her down and speculate her motives. What a horrible world this is, when a victim is berated online.
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  569. No matter what ethnicity of these people, assault was the first punch, the crew member was defending himself. No hate/ race crime just violence from entitled jerks.
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  570. She knew 😪
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  571. Career is not the term I would use, she needed fast money.
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  572. She will get off, a great message they are sending out 🙄
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  573.  @joank.0421  no forgiveness needed lol
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  574. ​ @12happyhannah  makes sense thank you
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  575. ​ @candy9986 seems likely 😔
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  576. Motive is the key, there is evidence if you research it.
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  577. She is beautiful ❤️
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  578. They all lived extravagant lives ... In my opinion greed is at the core of all of this 👍
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  579. Unprofessionalism at its worst they all acted high) pumped up, why? People have been murdered 😢
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  580. It's important to Mallory's family
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  581. A fair trial is vital, every piece of evidence presented to the jury.
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  582. ​ @naelyneurkopfen9741  exactly, it's something that is theirs.
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  583. Clicked fast on this. Moving in the right direction 🤞
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  584. Terribly ill
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  585. It's a HUGE amount to go through!
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  586. He missed his vocation he should have been a comedian... Not
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  587. She has her own identity
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  588.  @pearl3026  agreed her name is Kerri Rawson
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  589. They look very alike
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  590.  @raykane2063  cruel words
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  591. They won't go back there
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  592. She is not a monster Look at the family then work outwards Too many to mention failed that baby 💔
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  593. Many factors, any defense rightly or wrongly will find fault . This was so avoidable, if just one person had really called her out she would have faced reality. Her actions were appalling
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  594. Fact
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  595. He was always capable and his parents enabled. Perfect recipe for a tragedy
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  596. She clearly hates everyone
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  597. She would not allow them to look at her, completely denied being pregnant. Took eye off the ball
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  598. The victim in cases seem to get lost 💔 R.I.P. Brenda I don't see remorse I see self pity and a tap of tears which appears to have worked.
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  599. Sounds like there is a possibility he sustained head trauma, either way his actions caused her death. There are often no second chances once you are driving drunk or as a passenger. The risks people take never ceases to shock me.
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  600. ​ @betty8860 this is exactly what I've tried saying, there was negligence at the end of the day. They failed to observe their patient. This was an avoidable incident.
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  601. Wrong case
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  602. Fact!
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  603. I agree with you
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  604. Yes another one, at least she was exposed.
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  605. ​ @LizzieWhiz  exactly,the defense is blatantly highlighting that fact. They have been asking for it since last year.
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  606. ​ @crystal25288 highly unlikely his family were involved in any way.
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  607. That is exactly what the defense will raise, people don't want to hear these facts. A massive witch hunt is all I hear. I'm with you, I've been in a care role for over 15 years. Facts matter, not feelings. I've seen many medical professionals lose their jobs for less serious incidents. It will only take one juror to side with defense. There are going to be some very upset people but that's life and the legal system. Accountability is in many forms, as you rightly say they ALL failed that baby.
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  608. So true they lay it on thick and it appears to work, pity plays are beyond infuriating.
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  609.  @windblowncat  yes sorry I mis interpreted
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  610.  @babyofmyfamily  you make sense
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  611. Well said! I couldn't say it better 👍
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  612. Think the same,the house was wide open hours before LE were alerted. There is more to it than the narrative out there.
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  613. Exactly
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  614. Dam right 👌
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  615. Selective memory and self serving testimony
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  616. They get it wrong mostly but she is so elegant she could wear a bin liner and look great 😅
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  617. I think he is slightly afraid
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  618. I agree how they are verified before talking on a case 😩
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  619. Exactly, unlikely guns are important in this case. From what I've understood they were a collection.
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  620. So very true
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  621. She has a son
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  622. Thanks you saved me listening to this 😅
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  623. I think the same, plenty of blame to go around.
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  624. Of course guilty people do interviews!
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  625. His acting is not up to the job
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  626. Which case/ woman?
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  627. He got struck first so imo he was defending himself.
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  628. I'd never heard of her before this, she sunk herself
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  629. Eric may have had cognitive dissonance that can include being forced to comply with something against their beliefs, having to decide between different choices, and having to put effort into the goal. Seems to me he didn't want to leave the family home/ children and still loved his wife. Misplaced trust for sure. So sad 😢
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  630. So sorry for your losses 🙏✨
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  631. Money ..
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  632. Great to see Vinny back and Gray's input is fantastic. 👍 There was blatant premeditation, the planning it took shows just how callous the ex wife is. So many times one of them could have pulled out, but they didn't. Ex wife was the malicious mind that created this despicable crime. R.I.P. Jared, hoping the children can have a happy and healthy life regardless of such tragedy.
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  633. 😕
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  634. How does anyone know what they think/ feel. Speculation is out of control
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  635.  @elaineateoate1020  Well said, that pretty much sums it up and I think the same. 👍
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  636.  @TheSacredSight-v6w  a judge! Stop the world I wanna get off 😤
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  637. They are able to Compartmentalise their lives, it's very possible that the family members didn't know.
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  638. ​ @Ilene.s  religion bears no part in this case, ego, entitlement, envy, rage, control, ab*se comes closer.
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  639. ​ @robbymonaco3738  I agree, I've worked in the healthcare environment and this young woman had red flags everywhere. Obviously pregnant and in denial. Mother should have been asked to leave the room. Escorted to a bathroom for her own safety, I've unlocked doors to save patients from various situations. There is enough blame to go around, prevention is everything and in my opinion this was a preventable incident.
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  640. Dogs can be a deterrent but will be taken out if needed.
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  641. Race had nothing to do with it in my opinion. She refused to be examined, repeatedly denied pregnancy. Mother was there, overbearing no doubt. The young woman was given IV pain relief, she wanted to use the bathroom so the rest is history. So avoidable. 😢
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  642.  @Angelsbobbi  I get you, the speculation surrounding this and others is out of control. It certainly put me off court TV. Kind regards to you 💫
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  643. These two individuals were off their rockers before they met. Together= this nightmare Neither deserves any rights.
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  644. Insanity!
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  645. I think he has seen her before, maybe the gym? and stalked her to that isolated area, she fought back I'm sure. There isn't mention if she carried spray or anything. Bless her 💔 I wish she could have unalived him! This sick predator needs catching asap. 🙏
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  646. Guilty beyond doubt.
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  647. 😮 that's awful, hope your daughter is doing ok now 🙏
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  648. Don't think they set an alarm that night, the basement window was broken from research I did.
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  649. Sure does
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  650. ​ @bridget5180  could it be argued that it was medical staff's duty of care to observe/ monitor a patient? Being unhooked from a IV so she could go to a bathroom for 19 minutes in a locked bathroom is ill judged? Not one person had a visual on her. Any defense attorney worth their weight will blame others that's their job. Many failed that poor baby. She needs a reality check and punishment but many can learn from this. Not one person called her out on the OBVIOUS pregnancy.
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  651. Narcs don't feel anything let alone remorse. The son made his mother proud, that coward doesn't deserve the title of father.
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  652. Something happened to him that night, i believe the scene was staged. He was attacked and left in rhe road. Respect to his mom i hope justice is served.
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  653. She repeatedly lied, hindsight is clear
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  654. Fact 👏
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  655. Yes back pain was due to her being in labour, she lied, hid the pregnancy from all staff. It's best you research it yourself.👍
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  656. Pity play
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  657. She died of the skull fracture
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  658.  @dianefiske-foy4717  apologies to you 🙏 I googled it and the cause of death was both.
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  659. Very sorry 😔
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  660. He is a giant to most 😮
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  661. Very judgemental 😢
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  662. This defendant is amazing 🤗
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  663. Money
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  664. Thanks for your comment 🙂
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  665. It's infuriating
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  666. Probably tension
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  667. Possible for sure
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  668. Videos are evidence in a case like this, imo whoever swung first is to blame anything after that is self defense. 🤷
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  669. Very similar
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  670. ​ @karmakarmina7182 👍
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  671. ​ @donnamontanarella2403  Exactly, it's all those things
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  672. He has selective memory
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  673. It's important to keep the victim's story out there
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  674. Was that on the officer's body cam? I vaguely remember seeing one video where there were people running in the background. But the video is not great quality.
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  675. My brain scrambled watching it
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  676. Inconvenienced, she didn't care
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  677. So true
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  678. She should have been escorted by staff she had the opportunity and time. It's awful what she did. But clearly the dynamics of the family were off the hospital staff had a duty of care and they failed in my opinion.
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  679. Her actions were malicious and resulted in death, she needs a harsh punishment.
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  680. 😅😅
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  681. Now is the time to be transparent the victims and public deserve that
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  682. 💟
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  683. Dear me 😕
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  684. This case is a circus, I can't believe this DA released that "public rant" ... give me a break. As for the " expert" on the health data... Steps are steps. Does what you say make sense Mr expert? No!!
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  685. Defense attorneys will use that against the hospital, she was under their care and out of sight for 19 minutes. She deserves punishment and a huge dose of reality, the mother is a negative effect.
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  686. Entitlement a close second
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  687. They all have their scripts imo
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  688. It appears he had control in all aspects of his world. 😢
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  689. I'm not sure how the brain injury and PTSD affected his decision making. Her manipulation and coersive behaviours may have put him in a psychological trap. To judge is easy and I'm sure the right punishment will be delivered, he needs to face his actions.
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  690. Stunning ✨⭐
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  691. Exactly 💯
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  692. Looks like he may not make it to a trial, looks ancient 😕
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  693.  @lifepathnumbernine6607  I'm going to research the attorney see what I can find. Maybe he was all they could afford
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  694. I hope Stephen receives justice, the case appears to be another web of mystery let's hope the truth is revealed whatever that maybe. ❤
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  695. Digital analysis, behaviours/ actions, witnesses. There is much to a case, we are not privy to. Let's hope for a fair trial.
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  696. ​ @suburbantrapqueen  A witness who can put him at the scene.
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  697. ​ @suburbantrapqueen  Imagine in court, hearing all of it laid out.
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  698. ​ @suburbantrapqueen  The prosecution should be able to present a tight case. 👍
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  699. Doth protest too much comes to mind
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  700. Refused a breathalyser... Of course he was sober 😁
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  701. False sense of security bless the parents, such heartache 💔
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  702. Won't last
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  703. Legally an adult
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  704. It takes a certain type of an individual to do these crimes, so many factors but Narcissism is key. No boundaries, entitlement are key.
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  705. This guy thought he was invisible, he certainly did soar towards the sun fast R.I.P. Lance .H.
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  706. Absolutely, she seems terrified of her mother. 19 going on 10 years
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  707.  @charmx333  I'm not sure how you took my comment negative, I think the same as you. I've seen that kind of behaviour too from medical staff. It doesn't surprise me anymore. I'm a RN of 15 years so seen alot.
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  708. Agreed, there is plenty of blame to go around
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  709. Fact
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  710. Well she has certainly got the attention she so craved. I'm annoyed she has shown zero remorse. It should be jail time no question!
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  711. I'm wondering where the other DNA was, near the victims, within the bedrooms?
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  712. Judge is crazy!
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  713. I hope they have the right individual, if not there is an even more disturbing possiblity. I further hope they have enough evidence to prove all crimes possible. Let's hope they televisethe the trial 🤞
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  714. ​ @Oshiiiiiiiiiiii exactly, I would rather listen to her than a wannabe seeking their 5 min of fame
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  715. That's the problem with ear pods they take away the noises of your surroundings. Poor soul 😭
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  716. Good point
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  717. This was a tough one 🥹
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  718. Agreed, no chances should be taken on him being in society. The parents need their liberty taken long term also.
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  719. WA must be getting nervous now
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  720. It is terrifying young people can do such a wicked thing. 💔
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  721. 🫶🙏
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  722. ​ @waynefoote3781 bravo 👏
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  723.  @SpicyBeautifulDisaster  yes me too 👍
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  724. ​ @sunitamosesesq I absolutely agree with you 💯
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  725. It does make you wonder what goes through the heads of people that do things like this.
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  726. He's just a talking head I blame the higher ups they give him the scripts
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  727.  @dianealarcon8304  yes Vinnie is so hyper ATM
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  728.  @safeinmyheart1  if the panel continue their comedy club antics I sure will be
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  729. Wow, you never know.
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  730.  @chanlove7065  appreciate your information ✨ it never surprising me when a suspect is arrested what murders can get linked. I'm going to look into what you said. Thankyou 💫
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  731. He is always so controlled, I don't trust any of the people linked to this case
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  732. I read that she had left the child with neighbours prior to this saying it was only for a weekend but she was always away longer. So sad 😭
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  733. I 💜 her outfit!
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  734. Don't turn your back on crazy, they may have her med up
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  735. I think Eric had cognitive dissonance which can include being forced to comply with something against their beliefs, having to decide between different choices, and having to put effort into the goal. He wanted to be in the family home, near his children.
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  736. That's their scripted narrative, it's the complete opposite imo.
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  737. Digital check will show her guilt
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  738. ​ @betty8860  they were negligent, I just wish they had kept a visual observations on her, things would have been different.
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  739. I think if AM would scam his way out of prison he would, in a heart beat. He must be climbing the walls, i hope they keep him shackled both physically and mentally. Can't give this ba***rd an inch. Please stop giving him fuel 🙏
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  740. 🙌✨
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  741. Just the usual hype spin
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  742. Addiction took her away from her child but that is no excuse, adoption should have been. Harmony deserved so much better. 💔
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  743. Kerri Rawson, best wishes to you 💟
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  744.  @brokenangel3695 Amen ✨
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  745. True, it happens everyday but it's quite rare for it to happen in a hospital.
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  746. Me too it was awful to hear
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  747. Wtf ... Stop the world I need to get off!
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  748. Wasn't he named the ice man? Thought he only killed men, like a hit man.
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  749. Burke kicked the FBI out of the case
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  750. ​ @kmalow66  there was a case in the UK, James Bulger, two children were convicted of his murder they were 10/11 at the time of crime. Do some research, children commit crimes, maybe accidentally but never the less results in murder. It's no laughing matter.
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  751. Who struck who first? It was violence no matter what the ethnicity
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  752. I'd never heard of her
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  753. There is also digital evidence, potentially witness who can put him at the scene, his behaviours prior and past , DNA. Hoping all evidence ensures the jury is beyond reasonable doubt. A fair trial is vital.
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  754. ​ @Pink_143_6 how did the police not look further, Harmony was failed by EVERYONE 💔
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  755. That's more believable
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  756. can't find a date for trial
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  757. Because people think nothing bad will happen, intoxication takes over.
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  758. 😅 only heard of cardi b.
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  759. ​​ @JanJan-Y4d-6dx  feel the same, I would much rather listen to her than the clowns that were on there yesterday. At least she has respect, it amazes me how anyone can berate a victim such as her.
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  760. ​ @Kittywhisperer333 👋 I did at 19 only my best friend knew. Fear, denial is Powerful. She needs punishment but also compassion. So many people failed this baby.
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  761. Do you have a theory? Based on fact not emotion obviously
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  762. 💟
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  763. Precisely
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  764. He caught strays and would bet my home they never got to a shelter 😔
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  765. ​ @ShayJaxson-m2z  yes she didn't even spend a day in prison did she?
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  766. The tap of her tears is obvious, she got off lightly in my opinion. R.I.P. Brenda
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  767. He was begging, so callous
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  768. They believed they were safe, with a false sense of safety.
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  769. Poor man didn't stand a chance 😭
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  770. Something doesn't add up in this case, I'm not sure what to think 🤔
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  771. You could well be right but it does not diminish the fact that she knows what a child of a sk is likely to experience, yes she has a platform and she uses the profit for a living, so what? People on YouTube do it without actual knowledge every day. Isn't everyone speculating? She has a right to speak especially when court TV invites her on. Look at the guests they had yesterday, they all acted like they were at a happy, social gathering! At least she has respect.
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  772. Well said 👏
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  773. Yes, me too
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  774. ​ @Angel0fTruth  yes if she had been observed and escorted she would not have had the time to do what she did. So heartbreaking and so avoidable.
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  775. ​ @dpapincak exactly! Family dynamics are plain to see.
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  776. ​ @ksm5563 let's hope so 🤞
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  777. Chances are narcissist/ psychopath
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  778. Ikr she will have more rights than she deserves.
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  779. LS was very close to the family, he couldn't see the woods for the trees
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  780. Exactly
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  781. Makes sense
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  782. ​@faceykad8443 Do D & B have potential connections to the crimes? The delay in the alert to LE have always troubled me.
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  783. The history of individuals is key in this case.
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  784. Sounds like this is a small link on a large scale operation. Frightening
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  785. They all are a joke
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  786. Good question
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  787. Exactly
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  788. ​ @islandthrifts809 bang on, zero empathy
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  789. Exactly "yet to hear"
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  790. The poor child was probably too weak to even cry, or never did cry as the mother never came anyway. Neglected to death 💔🥹
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  791. Many missed opportunities I feel, red flags were all over her prior to going to the bathroom. It's so sad 😢
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  792.  @london5945  I think I know what you mean 😊
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  793. Ikr, not a laughing matter at all
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  794. And you can prove this how?
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  795. 💔💔
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  796. Me too plenty of blame to go around. Legally she is responsible and the hospital in the eyes of law is negligent. They had a duty of care.
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  797. Sadistic 😮
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  798. Pay back to the community, help others instead of boosting egos.
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  799.  @Januarycap  #1 The host Tamron was wearing red. #2 Terri Gilbert was manipulative. Hope this makes sense now.
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  800. I'm from England... It seems to me those that want the gun laws to change are getting what they want as those that own guns are acting crazy such as these parents!! They should be imprisoned, he is a child, he wasn't protected as those poor victims were not. What a mess!! I hope the system works on this one. 🤞
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  801. Twisted minds full of entitlement
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  802. They all have the same hype juice
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  803. This trial is confusing.... 🤦
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  804. It seems his whole life has been a drama, certainly not the average guy. Good to see Vinny back!
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  805. You are so right
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  806. How can anyone process this information, therapy is needed just to get over the shock. Tonnes of respect to Kerri Rawson.
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  807. I agree
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  808. Defense will work with everything they got I agree with you
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  809. ​ @changeofattitude8781  If LE needed her she wouldn't be on TV, doesn't mean she is not credible but time might tell.
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  810. Yes, me too
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  811. ​ @jaysika4417 I totally agree with you, preventative care and intuitive care was lacking . She needs to face consequences but there is plenty of blame to go around
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  812. He is a fantastic personality 💜
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  813. Really?
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  814. The cost and resources is the problem, especially if all based on lies
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  815. Spot on 👌
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  816. Embarrassing 😬
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  817. There just wasn't enough evidence
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  818. They do, many failed that baby.
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  819. Says a lot doesn't it
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  820. Well said
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  821. It's like being in the cinema 😳
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  822. ​ @wholeshebang1 that makes sense, Ty.
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  823.  @josephdover198  you are right
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  824. I was thinking that ..
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  825. Her skull was fractured
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  826. 💟 well said
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  827. I know they must have all been in denial
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  828. And toilet paper, gotta be prepared
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  829. This is so sad 😢
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  830. ​ @carolewinter6050  ....and not one of the people around her in the last 9 months called her out. Collective deception/ denial, her and others concerned should be penalised for neglect.
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  831. There is so much to process in this case.... To be fair ... The defense is mudding the waters. I don't believe that he shot anyone from the cart. He had weapons in him got off cart walked to victims, rest is history.hey... we all have an opinion 👍
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  832. Yes, when you know you can see it, so scary 😲
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  833. That's why Vinnie isn't a judge. Judge Newman is a good soul.
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  834. 🙏
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  835. Lol a lot in my opinion
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  836.  @Ne8f2h18dhcwl0q  it really is 😞
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  837. Well said, double, triple lives exist more than we know
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  838. A narcissist for sure
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  839. If neglected as much as reported the poor child probably learnt that crying didn't mean anything plus no food or water, she was too weak to cry. The neighbours had cared for the poor soul before this and the mother would not come back for days, she lied to everyone.
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  840. Yes! Finally a voice of reason. I 1000 % agree with you. ✨
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  841. ​ @KohalaLover fact
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  842. 🙏✨
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  843. It has to be asked when, how, where, why were any murdaughs at the scene 😮
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  844. ​ @cbwilliamss630 exactly
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  845. 😂 oh yeah!
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  846. I heard something different, she relives her past everyday.
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  847. ✨👏
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  848. Absolutely right
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  849. She was a threat to his ego, greedy coward. Never corner a narc, just go.
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  850. ​ @SouthernSass51  I see your point, the defense will have to prove negligence.
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  851. According to experts on here,it's not a lot.
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  852. So sorry 🥹✨
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  853. Exactly
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  854. From the UK and yes it was frightening,broad daylight. It can happen, never let your guard down.
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  855.  @puparazzi_dogs  Rachel Jane Nickell (23 November 1968 – 15 July 1992) was a British woman who was stabbed to death on Wimbledon Common in south-west London on 15 July 1992. The initial police investigation of the crime resulted in the arrest in controversial circumstances of an innocent man, who was acquitted. Robert Napper Is responsible for her murder and a mother and child. Samantha and Jazmine Bisset, in May 1994. 💔💔💔
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  856. Nobody including the young woman in question is in reality. In my opinion the young woman, the mother, her family, boyfriend family, school teachers/ friends, hospital staff all had a part to play. Any defense attorney worth their weight will blame others. So sad and avoidable, consequences/ punishment is needed.
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  857.  @susanwest4137  she deserves punishment for sure, lessons can be learnt from this.
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  858. They are everywhere in that town, like poison ivy
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  859. ​ @123cutieputtie agree with you
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  860. Correct
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  861. ​ @traceygeer797  my friend spotted during pregnancy but she was very aware, and had awful indigestion and back pain.
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  862. Any defense attorney worth their weight will say what you have, I'm seeing both sides. It was so avoidable, she was obviously pregnant.
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  863. Monetised, fact
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  864. Everyone wears masks
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  865. ​ @LetThereBeLoveLight  really feel for you, praying your daughter seeks help soon. 🙏✨
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  866. What are they then? Collateral damage better?
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  867. Looks and sounds like it, they tell us what they want.
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  868. Are the FBI going to testify?
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  869. Good point, he had a train set too may explain the marks found on her. I wish the truth would come out. 🙏 Poor Jon Benet 💔
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  870. Absolutely 💯
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  871. ​ @rosemariemello6675 yes, me too. She had time and opportunity. Observations and monitoring are so important.
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  872. ​ @Connie-E I am too, plenty of blame to go around
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  873. As if this case was not horrific enough. That you tuber only has herself to blame abd needs to face the consequences. My heart goes out to Gannon's family, R.I.P. Gannon 💜✨
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  874. because of a bad grade 😔 His team wants a psychiatric review
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  875. He could have passed out and she somehow got him in there.
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  876. Well she did!
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  877. ​ @maneckineckbeard1749 exactly! She should have been monitored there were red flags all over
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  878. ​ @theleastofthese5369 I agree, it was preventable if she had been monitored/ escorted
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  879. ​ @robbymonaco3738  💯 agree. If she had been escorted and visibly monitored then she would not have had the time/ opportunity to do what she did, which I find deplorable btw. In healthcare prevention is everything. There is plenty of blame to go around. There was a reason she couldn't/ wouldn't tell her mother, that in itself is telling. If she is mentally competent then she should face criminal charges. Compassion goes a long way in preventing future incidents like this.
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  880. ​ @alisha8586 I've worked in one and all you do is constantly monitor patients especially those that cause the red flags as much as this one. The mother should have been told to leave so they could speak to her alone.
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  881. ​ @Asidebar exactly 💯
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  882. I know what you mean
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  883. Court TV is one big speculation on subjects, why should she not speak about what happened to her. It's just her view and she has the right to speak. All the other guests have their say why not her?
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  884. It's not about emotions, it's about respect and morals. This channel has neither let alone empathy for the victim or family. This victim was a child remember.
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  885.  @qui_etes_vous  whatever
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  886. Now he lives in the real world.
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  887. Low levels I'm sure, can't wait for all details. It's important.
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  888. The only thing I take from this case is the lack of accountability, not one person including Alexee has taken it. The lack of morals from this family is shocking, the medical staff rely on honesty to treat a patient correctly. The baby and the staff are the only ones I feel sorry for. 😢
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  889. I'm quite hard of hearing so good for me 😊
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  890. 👍
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  891.  @bittersweet2166  I get you
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  892. Totally agree, criminal negligence resulting in fatal consequences 😢
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  893. Agree
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  894. You'd think/ hope so it's like anyone her was in a bubble of denial 🥹
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  895. Yeah the mother is a major factor in this, I believe she mentally crippled her. Hence the appalling decision making skills. She needs consequences/ punishment but so does the mother.
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  896. Nonsense... The mind boggles
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  897. This comment made me smile 😄 Thank you
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  898. There should be consequences
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  899. Fact, and we all know it 👍
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  900. Did they show autopsy pictures?
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  901. 👏
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  902. It's beyond words 💔
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  903.  @justkiddin84  the ones I've noticed are ex LE
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  904.  @justkiddin84  should have been blown out the water years ago then , why wasn't it?
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  905.  @DimonGirl  💟✨
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  906. ​ @b.1162 exactly, well said
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  907. Absolutely 👍
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  908.  @tipper6733  we are all entitled to a opinion. Kind regards 👍
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  909.  @DawnPatrol21  I think my comment clearly says that she is legally responsible, however the defense will find anything they can. It's very sad all round.
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  910.  @tipper6733  and it was the staffs duty of care to prevent actions such as this. What she did to her baby is deplorable but the hospital was negligent in monitoring her. If she refused treatment they should have spoken to her alone. The mother was a driving force in the truth being covered. That is why staff are trained to detect family dynamics in order to prevent such incidents.
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  911.  @tipper6733  you don't know that, none of us do. What she did was criminal and she needs punishment but the minute you are in a hospital the staff have a duty of care which in turn is observations and monitoring. Would this have happened if she had been escorted to the bathroom? No.
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  912. From what I saw at various times her brow was like "glabella furrowing" which can indicate confusion, concern and upset. But who knows, I'm sure experts will look into it.
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  913. ​ @Failureisnotanoptionever I'm confused 😕
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  914. Third that!
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  915. Cycles of abuse, they literally went round and round until she snapped.
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  916.  @helenab7390  it's no worries 🙂I totally understand, those guests were awful!
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  917. Makes me sick 😭
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  918.  @judahtribe7  I think Chris watts was more introvert but when his back was against the wall, financially and emotionally he chose to delete his old life for his new love.
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  919. Any attorney will rip the hospital and staff a new one. Avoidable in my opinion
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  920. Agree
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  921. The ransom novel was so bizarre
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  922. Torture for the family.
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  923. I was under the impression that they had done a pregnancy test and confirmed pregnancy however due to the denials and refusing of physical exams that they were awaiting further test results. She was put on a morphine IV drip but said she needed the toilet so they removed the IV, she then went on her own to the toilet and locked herself in. From the video her mother and staff checked her several times but had zero visuals on her. This gave her time and opportunity to do the dreadful actions. She definitely needs consequences/ punishment but many failed that poor baby in my opinion: Herself Both families School teachers/ friends Any defense lawyer worth their weight will find any loop hole that's their job. Tragic it came to this 💔
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  924. Second that
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  925. We were all teenagers once and made bad decisions. R.I.P. Mallory Beach ✨
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  926. I get what you are saying, in my view many people could have prevented this. There is obviously something very wrong with this case.
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  927. She was at home and was sending text messages then nothing, their daughters were camping. Bm had gone on a job.
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  928. Whatever happened has caused a total mess. She won't talk so all this speculation is pointless.
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  929. ​ @joled498  that makes sense if he has special needs, it may have been the only source she was allowed? Time might tell.
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  930. ​ @ehLeanne311 she died from ovarian cancer
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  931. Greed/ money
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  932. Their egos dictate their actions along with entitlement.
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  933. ​ @bobbyc2768 yes I thought so
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  934. ​ @sylerbo exactly no one was in the bathroom, there were red flags all over it, refusing medical exam, over bearing mother. Plenty of blame to go around. She should face consequences but she is not evil.
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  935. This is heartbreaking 💔 How can these individuals live with themselves they are beyond help.
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  936. ​ @esmeralda..... right, a disgusting human
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  937.  @Miss.831  I'm pretty sure it was IV but this case is muddied. The sooner they bring it to court the better.
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  938. 🙏✨
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  939. ​ @kathynj6479 it's painful to explain isn't it 😕
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  940. ​ @gwynjustice2575 staff are trained for these situations, the family dynamics are telling. I've worked in healthcare environments and this was screaming red flags.
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  941. ​ @OShackHennessy  Right, I bet he knew where everything was though
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  942. There was a skull fracture
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  943. He was always capable of this, his parents did nothing to stop it. Just as guilty in my book.
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  944. Becky gave them all they needed
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  945.  @beverlyhitchon4901  thankyou 💫💜
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  946. ​ @KohalaLover  I've always hoped/ believe that the mind can shut down and your soul leaves the body, but realistically there must be pain in the mind and body. It's heartbreaking 💔
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  947. Can happen, add into that fear, denial.
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  948. Mother sure is arrogant, there is something very wrong in this case. She may be 19 but actions say different mental age. Legally responsible, many people could have prevented this.
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  949. It would seem many were unalived in connection to him
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  950.  @SaddleRockManitou  certainly has zero control now
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  951. The hospital should not have allowed her to be alone for any length of time. Red flags all over it in my opinion. The mother should have been escorted out of the cubicle.
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  952. So right
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  953. Dam right
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  954. 🤡
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  955. No wonder that the judge was taken ill right before this sh*t went down. Such a circus
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  956. Fact
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  957. It seems the cops should have done more. Especially considering children were present.
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  958. I'm at 13:00 it's a slow process 😴
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  959. I don't know where these so called experts come from 🙄
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  960. Doesn't make sense the child seemed instructed by her.
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  961. The Springfield 3 On June 7, 1992, Sherill Levitt, her daughter Suzanne Streeter, and friend Stacy McCall disappeared from Levitt's home in Springfield, Missouri, between 02:15am – 07:30am. Suzanne and Stacy had returned to Levitt's home to spend the night after attending graduation parties the night of June 6, 1992.
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  962. Yes, he threw the first punch guilty of assault imo
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  963. Yes, both are horrible individuals
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  964. Such an sn arrogant individual, he waited all those years to pounce. A m.u.r.d.e.r. in slow motion. I so wish Amie had a fire arm or guard dog. R.I.P. Amie
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  965. ​ @stonecrestquilt I've worked in healthcare environments and I've unlocked many doors, intuition was lacking from these staff.
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  966. ​ @tracymarquez6875 I feel exactly the same, she had the time and opportunity. What she did was deplorable but were actions of a terrified woman.
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  967. ​ @MagnoliaBelle369 totally agree, finally found someone with the same opinion.
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  968.  @em9316  I get your points and they are good points. It's hard to believe that not one person confronted the elephant in the room. Sometimes it takes incidents such as this to equip people for the future. I'm sure she will face some criminal charges. Hindsight is always easy to say. Your comment reminds me of that. Thanks.
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  969. I've never had children, but in my opinion she obviously looked pregnant. She refused all physical exams, doctors confirmed pregnancy but she repeatedly denied it. The Dr was waiting for further test results, she was put in IV pain relief but asked to use the bathroom, so IV must have been removed she then went solo and locked herself in for approx 19 mins, the rest is history. Women that I've seen post pregnancy still very much have a bump but everyone is different. Hope this helps 👍
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  970. Of course she will
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  971. She knows exactly what it's like
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  972. It really is as complex as you say. 😢
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  973. Exactly, trial by the media.
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  974.  @killerheelscrime  I have the utmost respect and empathy for all the victims and all members of their families. I feel strongly that when a person is charged with a crime, , they have the right to a fair trial. This means a fair and public hearing, within a reasonable time, by an independent and impartial court and judge. Everybody is presumed innocent until proven beyond reasonable doubt, I'm not simping anybody. Kind regards.
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  975. ​ @-The-Darkside  do you think she will be sent a subpoena?
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  976. The lawyer will find any way to defend their client. In my opinion the hospital has a duty of care once a patient is admitted. Observations are vital, she was alone too long. Her actions were horrendous but staff are trained to detect denial and family dynamics. There were red flags all over this patient. It's just so sad as it was preventable.
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  977. Charles Manson was diagnosed with schizoid personality disorders with underlying paranoid narcissistic features and an anti social disorder.
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  978. So true 💯
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  979. Totally, her fear and shame led her to appalling consequences.
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  980. That's why the defense is asking for the full chain of DNA documentation. They are within their rights to ask.
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  981. 🙏 you stay safe
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  982. ​ @y2y66  what Madison said on that audio,is that significant to this trial?
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  983. Sadly, correct.
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  984. ​ @Sweetyhide  she refused all physical exams, and repeatedly denied pregnancy. I can't help but think if her mother hadn't been there things may have been different. Hindsight is always clearer. So sad and so avoidable 💔
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  985.  @Sweetyhide  I do too, so sad and avoidable 💔
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  986. This is uncomfortable to watch
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  987. It's a family that has mental health, drug addictions, and sexual deviance. Everyone has a story, this one part is just a chapter of many.
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  988. Her trial is next
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  989.  @renevillarreal7066  it's also self worth, morals. I agree with you.
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  990.  @adriannahuezo6112  feel the same
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  991. Time will tell, some of the comments are vicious. Trial by public happens when there is far too much info released.
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  992. 👏💫
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  993. Only they can answer that but it looks like they ignored it on purpose.
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  994. Dr. Hoover likely knew the k*ller, lets hope le can find some evidence. R.I.P. Dr. Hoover 💜
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  995. Certainly agree with you, the defense are doing their jobs and are entitled to documentation regarding the DNA.
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  996. Hope you are ok Megan 💟 this case is traumatic.
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  997. Absolutely 💯
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  998. Doesn't surprise me, animals know ✨ Wonder if they had a dog or cat?
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  999. I would think writing about her past is therapy in itself
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  1000. If the mother hadn't been there I'm positive the outcome would have been different
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  1001. No-one should be above the law, time to face their actions. There's a novel idea! 😂
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  1002.  @OneHunnitNoCapStannitOnBidnisz  Acts not acting, big difference!
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  1003. I smell a rat 🙄
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  1004. ​ @TawnyC_ great point
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  1005. I agree he started way earlier
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  1006. Callous
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  1007.  @LightLight-nf5tl  but who? D*ug D****rs?
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  1008.  @Meagain2sc  this user is sure it's multiple people but doesn't say anything else? I'm just asking if it was, read the comments. Can't be bothered with all this riddle talk. It's a pointless scenario .. 😔
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  1009.  @LightLight-nf5tl  still his DNA
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  1010. I still can't believe she walked away, her actions were deplorable. Karma will be waiting for her one day.
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  1011. ​ @TheFrenchPug  Try = cogitationes et precaria
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  1012. Threats possible
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  1013. They got food stamps as the son was special needs
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  1014. I fear there are many involved.
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  1015. So sorry for your loss 💟
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  1016. Best wishes to you and family ❤️
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  1017. ​ @lynnhubbard844  JR is with Natalie Holloway's mother I believe
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  1018.  @jimwerther  thanks
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  1019. Absolutely
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  1020. Precisely, she presented many red flags.
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  1021.  @b.1162  the trial will answer many questions
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  1022. ​ @TheCandiceWang what's soamy?
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  1023. Terrible connection 😕
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  1024. Say what? I need to read up on this case! 🤔
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  1025. Died in prison
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  1026. Yes, he is crestfallen. Deservedly.
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  1027. The poor child probably learnt that crying didn't do any good, also no food and water made her weak. It's just wicked. 💔
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  1028. I think so too, it's possible the baby had defects. I hope more facts come to light.
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  1029. Definitely
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  1030. Appears so
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  1031. Many people missed the reality of the situation. A stranger would realise she was heavily pregnant, back pain on admission. In my opinion the hospital has a problem. Any defense attorney worth their weight will blame the staff. Personally I blame: Her Her Mother School teachers/ friends Boy friend family Were they all in denial?
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  1032. She is infuriating 😡
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  1033. The murder of a child is heinous 😢
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  1034. Poor Harmony so let down 💔
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  1035. True
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  1036. That's generalising I for one have never said that. Each case is different.
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  1037. That's true, follows commands plus impaired. She manipulated him.
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  1038. Professionalism is lacking in some cases
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  1039. I think the lack of observation is a gap for the defense.
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  1040. Exactly, they are looking for anything
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  1041. Right 👍
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  1042. The family are off to say the least.
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  1043. I think it was the victim that shut the door, from reports it was a minor, so much trauma for her. But she can identify him hopefully.
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  1044. Say what 😨
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  1045. Professional liar and paid well. Just doing his job at the end of the day.
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  1046.  @fanny3942  I know it's makes me sick too
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  1047. A very possible aspect, a great take on this sad case 👌 She needs a reality check and therapy.
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  1048. Great points, it's possible she has cognitive issues.
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  1049.  @laurenmay2098  they say love and hate are close.
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  1050. So many people want children, then there are individuals like this... Blows my mind 😤
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  1051. Wish they could have protected themselves
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  1052. And very malicious
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  1053. ​ @NickAyers-zg7rj possible, he shouldn't have a chance to unalive himself until court. The evidence is all that matters.
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  1054. ​ @kathynj6479  neither is it a contest, unless you have been in that situation it's all speculation. I've been there and I would much rather listen to someone that has been through it than a bunch of overrated so called professionals.
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  1055. Son was special needs = food stamps
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  1056.  @KitKatToeBeans  calm down it's only a opinion
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  1057. There was no bogey man in my opinion, whatever happened those in the home knew/ know.
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  1058. I've always wondered why the phone wasn't taken
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  1059. I think you are spot on
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  1060. Sorry for your loss 🙏
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  1061. Accountability is needed not secrecy
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  1062. I really fell for the staff 😢 The attorney will go after each staff member.
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  1063. Yes I would need experts to testify, hope they bring them in.
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  1064. He really did and he is so proud of himself 😖
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  1065. They must have known, a stranger would know. Many people failed that poor baby
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  1066. ​ @princekareem yes that's right, she wasn't in reality
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  1067. Absolutely 💯
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  1068. ​ @LovelyLaureness  Fact I've seen colleagues get disciplinaries/ fired for lesser serious issues.
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  1069. Well written, and bang on correct
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  1070. Chances are high he calculates every interaction with people will his mask slip when faced with evidence.
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  1071.  @alexandrasymeon5893  yes, obviously
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  1072. I have to agree, she had the time and opportunity. It's just so sad 😢
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  1073. What you say is true, it's so tragic but was avoidable if staff had stayed with the patient. She had time and opportunity alone.
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  1074. Very good point
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  1075. ​ @loriburnip this troll is everywhere, harassing in fact. Best to report
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  1076. Me too, I was followed once. The location of this crime is not lost on me.
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  1077. I think she smiles when she is alone
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  1078. ​ @CannaGro81  Thanks! 👍 Yes, she would scare the strongest minded person.
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  1079. I saw her physically recoil when her mother found out. Speaks volumes.
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  1080. She may as well have taken a tent and camped properly!
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  1081. Yes, I agree something is very wrong. Not one person in her life faced reality. Well reality is scary but now she is learning fast . I still question her mental age.
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  1082. Absolutely 💯
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  1083. Compartmentalised is the right word, they also wear many masks
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  1084. Exactly, the staff never treated her as a legal adult, her mother exasperated the obvious elephant in the room issue. They all failed in keeping the patient and child safe. Preventative care is vital and protocols were not followed.
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  1085. Such denial and avoidance, no excuse though
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  1086. Haven't heard that for a long time, so very true 👏
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  1087. Something is off,more involved
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  1088. ​ @annconforti9294 always with you
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  1089. ​ @corq many empaths murder too
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  1090. Your comment made me cry 😢
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  1091. ​ @QueenOfPetty21  no it's ok honestly your words were powerful, thank you. I just can't believe what they did. It's like we feel the pain she is supposed to. So messed up. 😢
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  1092. Absolutely, they need to find Harmony 💔
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  1093. Neither mother or medical staff had a visual on her as she was on a locked toilet.
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  1094. I think it's possible that others were involved.
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  1095. 🙏✨💔
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  1096. Certainly a symbolic message
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  1097. Definitely
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  1098. He has an odd demeanour/ attitude in that interview 😖
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  1099. It sounds like the abuse was their normal, very worrying.
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  1100. Very possible and a very frightening thought
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  1101. ​ @moda78z 🤦
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  1102. 🫢
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  1103. ​ @lilg2300 it appears LE have screwed up
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  1104. It appears from some reports that staff did perform CPR and autopsy shows air in lungs and stomach. It's confusing, overall it's homicide. The defense will go to the hospital they always will.
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  1105. Chances are they would have unalived him too
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  1106. ​ @looking4things669  right, in the eye of the beholder
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  1107. ​ @francesmcstay yes, they had knowledge, no surprise there
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  1108. A addict for 20 years .... 🤦
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  1109. She is a horror 😭
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  1110. Doubt it, your comment could be
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  1111. Fact
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  1112. ​ @davidgray1515  your advice should be worldwide lol
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  1113. He may have passed out/ knocked out then she got him in somehow. She has a sick mind.
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  1114. Exactly 💯
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  1115. She sounded drowsy/ strange in the recordings 😞
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  1116. Brooke Skylar Richardson
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  1117. Me too, I listen with headphones and it's slightly improved.
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  1118. More like how will this end?
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  1119. Well said 👏
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  1120. Pure speculation
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  1121. ​ @biancamaclean4794 it all points in their direction
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  1122. They both sound bitter, angry, vengeful, no good can come from this type of parenting. They showed no respect to their son so no respect in return. They are abusers no question.
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  1123. I wondered when she would have her day, good for her! They deserve to be dragged through the legal system.
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  1124. Yes, I agree
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  1125.  @IrishHndGrenade  congratulations ✨
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  1126. Of course the defense don't want cameras, exactly why they should be there.
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  1127. Conflicting reports, can't wait to hear all the facts it's so important
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  1128. Families like that stick together
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  1129. I'm not sure L. lawyer is right for this show 😳
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  1130. I read that she had left the poor child with neighbours prior to this saying it would only be for a few days but was always longer. It's beyond tragic.
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  1131. The baby had air in the lungs, her actions were appalling and consequences are needed. There is so much wrong in her world to have denied, hurt her own child. Start with the family and mother.
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  1132. My thoughts are with you all ♥️ They should face prison time without a doubt!
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  1133. On a week holiday/ vacation
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  1134.  @GirlfromFinland  me too, there was a something comforting about Vinny. 😁
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  1135. ​ @washedinhisblood.3906  Thank you 🙏
    2
  1136. 💯 agree with you
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  1137. I get you, humans are corrupt 😭
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  1138.  @luxetveritas4633  I agree with you, I was just saying
    2
  1139. Very fishy
    2
  1140. 👍
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  1141. ​ @Earthbound369 I totally agree with you
    2
  1142. Me too 😂
    2
  1143. Kudos to the Judge 👌 Boone will talk herself into a long sentence.
    2
  1144. Well said
    2
  1145. Your right, It speaks volumes
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  1146. Ikr, the news feed on this case is crazy 😧
    1
  1147.  @LifeProducersofNewJerseyLLC  time will tell
    1
  1148. Yes her digital history will be prevalent
    1
  1149. Sticking to her vows that's for sure.
    1
  1150. You can still bleed during pregnancies
    1
  1151. I agree, there is not solid evidence. Just trial by the media as usual.
    1
  1152. Absolutely 💯
    1
  1153. @faceykad8443 thought so, have you seen my other question?
    1
  1154. It's a right brain scratch 🙄
    1
  1155. This is heartbreaking to watch, Charles told them everything they needed to know. Obviously more training is needed so officers can see the red flags. Imo.
    1
  1156. No doubt she wore gloves
    1
  1157. ​ @jennizel 👍
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  1158. I thought the judge had something in her mouth,maybe it was because the audio of the child made her react that way.
    1
  1159. Agreed, isolated place
    1
  1160. I would cr*p myself
    1
  1161. They seem to have lost their senses ATM 😞
    1
  1162. If their roles were reversed I highly doubt the outcome would have been the same.
    1
  1163. ​ @reeva5735 I agree
    1
  1164. I'm hoping the trial will give Christian's voice back. It's not fair just to hear her side. Let's hope all the evidence makes it to court.
    1
  1165. Absolutely it's vital, who really was in and out. So many people
    1
  1166. No words....
    1
  1167. Absolutely I agree, I was a carer for over 20 years, I've opened many locked doors quicker than 19 ( approx) minutes. Feel for the staff but the attorney will go after them for negligence.
    1
  1168. ​ @Angel0fTruth  I agree, if the mother or staff member had an eye on her then we would be none the wiser and it certainly wouldn't be a criminal case. The young woman had too much time alone. So tragic but so avoidable. I feel for the staff, all major incidents or accidents in a care setting are blamed on staff present at the time of events. Been there done that, it's not nice.
    1
  1169.  @Catchmyvib2  well they didn't in this case
    1
  1170. ​ @feliciaboston6365 btk was Dennis radar look it up
    1
  1171. I think she left the show
    1
  1172. Great points, the truth is always different from the snapshots that are shown.
    1
  1173. They are usually far from insane
    1
  1174. All I hear is self pity and entitlement. I see no remorse. This was infuriating to listen to, I can't imagine the pain she has caused. Long jail term is needed.
    1
  1175. Exactly 💯
    1
  1176. ​ @twinkletoes6290 👏⭐👏✨⭐
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  1177.  @nicoledoran7700  exactly, observations are so important
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  1178. Agreed, she is not a monster and she will face charges I'm sure But many people failed that poor baby. A massive dose of reality came knocking.
    1
  1179. Totally, it's like they all were in a detached reality.
    1
  1180. Exactly, 💯
    1
  1181. See your point
    1
  1182. She is just a coward
    1
  1183. ​ @bswogger4656  don't bother this one is all over the comments. Let's face facts any lawyer would call negligence. They only need one juror to side with her regardless of what the public feels/ thinks.
    1
  1184. ​ @susiefoxy8130 I feel your frustration, my neighbours are awful
    1
  1185. Me too! I can't do public places or people!
    1
  1186. I absolutely agree with you, all evidence points to the family, no intruder
    1
  1187. In my opinion it is possible for one individual to unalive 4 individuals with a weapon such as in this case. I'm sure the prosecution will be able to lay out the course of events based on the evidence they obtained . The trial should answer most questions, I'm hoping anyway.
    1
  1188. ​ @thraxgasolina  this case is considered a mass murder
    1
  1189. I do agree
    1
  1190. Maggie did not get mentioned enough ... The real Maggie is so very important 🙏
    1
  1191. She must have cleaned up well
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  1192.  @MyPronounIsGoddess  thanks 👍
    1
  1193. All respect to those life savers 👍🤗
    1
  1194. She wasn't born a monster
    1
  1195. ​ @goldlockedmonster469 absolutely agree, mother dearest as much to answer for 😢
    1
  1196. There was 8 hrs approx for the scene to be contaminated
    1
  1197. I know what you mean 🥹
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  1198. My thoughts too
    1
  1199. Absolutely 👍
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  1200. She may as well have been in a ditch giving birth. Any decent defense lawyer will find excuses for their clients behaviour. So many people failed that baby.
    1
  1201. There are intertextualities in many cases, hoping for a fair trial.
    1
  1202. There is so much more to how it came to this tragic case, but she needs prison time for a reality check.
    1
  1203.  @cdo8994  yes definitely she needs to receive some therapy 👍
    1
  1204. From the reports available and only in my opinion she was admitted with severe back pain, preliminary tests showed positive pregnancy. However she refused ALL physical exams, she was put on a morphine IV drip but said she needed the toilet so IV was removed. She went solo to the bathroom and locked herself in. There was no visual on her for 19 minutes or there about, the mother and staff asked if she was ok several times but could not see her. Any defense attorney worth their weight will blame others. She should face punishment but many failed that poor baby. The young woman herself, her own mother, the boyfriend, the school teachers, her friends, the hospital. It was avoidable if one person had faced reality.
    1
  1205. Her family, people around her must have seen her belly getting bigger. It's mind boggling.
    1
  1206. It was clear she was hiding a pregnancy, refusing physical exams, her demeanour/ language. So sad and so avoidable 💔
    1
  1207. I totally agree, many people failed that poor baby
    1
  1208. Exactly, scary thought
    1
  1209. She refused all physical exams
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  1210. Yes I agree with you. There were red flags, she needs to face consequences, but the hospital staff dropped the ball in my opinion. She had time and opportunity whilst unattended. It's a tragic incident. The mother is toxic and contributed to it.
    1
  1211. Name and shame for sure
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  1212. Aged fast
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  1213. The judge is an inspiration
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  1214. What a load of self serving BS, this just confirms how far gone this individual really is. Good riddance.
    1
  1215. Well said , many people failed that baby.
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  1216. Very likely
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  1217. I've worked in similar environments and things can go wrong quickly. She should have been escorted to the bathroom for her own safety. She sadly had the freedom and time. There are problems in that family home.
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  1218.  @luvlost03  no she wasn't honestly, she kinda went into a trance, she answered questions but no speaking or noise. Very strange I know, she wouldn't even let her husband touch her until she delivered, this was her fourth and was her last baby. She started talking straight after.
    1
  1219.  @jesclifford88  it's hard to believe but true.
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  1220. ​ @bazookajoe2889 exactly
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  1221. They really did
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  1222. Hindsight is clear but I do agree she should have been escorted, the opportunity was there and her acts are horrendous. I do feel empathy for her though.
    1
  1223. ​ @qmaineotcg  in my opinion she is 19 going on 10.
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  1224. A defence attorney will highlight the fact she was unattended for the 19 mins it gave her time and opportunity. So sad and so avoidable 💔
    1
  1225. He's one of the best 👌
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  1226. Impotence? Incompetence is more likely
    1
  1227. Fact
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  1228. ​ @CarrieBishop-n1f  do a check but I'm certain it was the skull fracture that was the cause of death.
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  1229. Obviously not, sadly
    1
  1230. 🙏⭐✨
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  1231. ​ @GaiaCarney I totally agree 💯
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  1232. ​ @jaysika4417 I agree with you
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  1233. ​ @jaysika4417 agreed
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  1234. That's why staff often accompany patients to the bathroom. I feel for the staff, such an awful situation for them.
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  1235. Uh-oh 🤦
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  1236. Doubtful
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  1237. ​ @JosephineB63  Fact 👍
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  1238. Also the phone was in airplane mode. That is significant.
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  1239. Greed
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  1240. Any defense attorney worth their weight will blame
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  1241. His own flesh and blood
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  1242. Right, the attorney will find any way to defend. She was unattended for an extended period of time, whilst under the care of the hospital. The young woman needs punishment/ consequences and made to face reality. The people that were around her 9 months prior must have had blinders on. 🙄
    1
  1243.  @rachelrachel3146  that is amazing, I got chills reading your comment ✨
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  1244. There must be more to it, trial by the public as usual. 🙄
    1
  1245. That was funny I must admit 🤣
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  1246. Very suspicious why were they there?
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  1247. People often think of DNA as being infallible – and it truly can conclusively prove the innocence of the wrongfully convicted. But we have to be very careful about using the same type of evidence to prove a person’s guilt. Touch DNA is pseudoscience. The defense has a right to ask for every piece of evidence regarding the DNA chain of documentation. A fair trial is needed not a trial by the public/ media.
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  1248. ​ @Belle_Ndebeledoll it's heartbreaking
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  1249. So bizarre
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  1250. ​ @bobbyc2768  This why defense are still asking... Court documents, filed by attorneys for the 28-year-old PhD student ,argue that DNA from two other men was also found inside the off-campus student home in Moscow, Idaho. DNA from a third unknown man was also found on a glove found outside the property on 20 November – one week on from the murders, the documents state. “By December 17, 2022, lab analysts were aware of two additional males’ DNA within the house where the deceased were located and another unknown male DNA on a glove found outside the residence on November 20, 2022,” Mr Kohberger’s attorney Jay Logsdon writes in the filing. “To this date, the Defense is unaware of what sort of testing, if any, was conducted on these samples other than the STR DNA profiles. Further, these three separate and distinct male DNA profiles were not identified through CODIS leading to the conclusion that the profiles do not belong to Mr. Kohberger.”
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  1251. I watched his whole admission and he is heartless. His family was never a thought to him.
    1
  1252. I'm sure she warranted being sectioned prior to this, but went on to take a man's life.
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  1253. ​ @letitiamcculley9311  she is a piece of work
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  1254. Incontinence is a sure sign of fear and abuse
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  1255. Legally there is negligence, morally she is guilty.
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  1256. Much can go wrong quickly, I feel for all concerned especially the poor baby 😔
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  1257. Wow!!! Powerful 👍well done judge!!
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  1258. Well said, the dynamics in this are so off and led to tragedy. Many lessons should be learnt.
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  1259. Good question, either way thru got to live with it. Poor soul was failed by so many 💔
    1
  1260. Exactly
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  1261. ​ @susanwest4137 I really don't understand your hostility, fyi I've worked in both roles in healthcare. Have you ever worked in a hospital? You are not accepting the fact it is not personal feelings that matter in a legal negligence case. It's facts!!! There is protocol for a reason, to prevent incidents such as this. They failed to keep their patient, baby safe. End of!
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  1262.  @susanwest4137  it's not ME holding anyone responsible. The jury will decide at the end of the day, all this talk is pointless. I wish no offence to anyone, king regards. 👍
    1
  1263. 😂 yes! 😂
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  1264. Absolutely fantastic points
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  1265. Fact
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  1266. Remember one of the roommates is an eye witness It would be interesting to see if she is called to testify.
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  1267.  @maureens100  didn't they find GSK through genetic DNA? It's just such a shame that they didn't have more evidence in this current case 😔
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  1268. Fact, family dynamics were off.
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  1269.  @derekbrunette222  don't stress your brain, is " she will never understand what he went through" or" she will never be able to comprehend what he went through " Is that better for you?
    1
  1270. Wow, to think I got a warning from you tube about my comments and then they allow your comment! Just so you know I'm reporting this.
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  1271. Wasn't it his father's?
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  1272. Family dynamics here were way off
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  1273. Beyond comprehension 🥹
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  1274. As you say there is always more information, the trial will be an eye opener for many if they listen with their ears not the heart.
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  1275. ✨⭐💫 Amazing!
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  1276. Masks should be worn properly, they are useless if they are pulled down when talking. Since COVID complacency occurs. Working through lockdowns was hell
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  1277. DP should not have applied here
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  1278. Right, she deserves no attention
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  1279. Any defense lawyer will say negligence in a situation like this, I really feel for the staff but they took their eyes off the ball.
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  1280. That's right, her behaviour/ language was obviously denial.
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  1281. Agreed, neither mother nor grandmother were/ are in reality. The hospital/ staff were the last defense for the baby.
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  1282. Keep eyes open Never trust anyone
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  1283. Denial is powerful. Much can be learnt from this
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  1284. Feel the same. In my opinion the young woman herself, the boyfriend, both families, the school teachers/the friends. Were they all in an ignorant trance for 9 months? Boggles the brain this one. 🥹
    1
  1285. Ikr, unprofessional and disrespectful
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  1286. Agree with you The defense are doing their job whatever anyone feels. Only a desperate, in denial person does this action. Consequences are needed but also understanding as to how it can be prevented.
    1
  1287. Yes no doubt she got a lawyer ready
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  1288. I don't doubt it, but this event was in a hospital not common, imo
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  1289. Very true, her mental health will be questioned
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  1290. Best to Google it
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  1291. He is full of cr*p
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  1292. Research some statistics
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  1293. Very true Such a sesspit
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  1294. ​ @micenabled9418  maybe a part of a train set would, BR had one in the basement. Check it out research wise.
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  1295. Who is Molly please?
    1
  1296. Not a bad theory 👍
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  1297. Zero bond
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  1298. In my view she is immature possibly delayed, but the entitlement of her mother is obvious. If the mother was not there I'm sure things may have been different. She needs prison time to teach her what reality is.
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  1299.  @virgiliod.9436  certainly does
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  1300. Need to catch up on this case 🤔
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  1301. The sliding back door may have been the entry
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  1302. Makes more sense than a stranger/ intruder
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  1303. It's happening every day
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  1304. I hope she has good support, maybe she will go to her homeland when possible
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  1305. Think so too
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  1306. No excuse, literally the best eye witness ever!
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  1307. I'd be outta there!
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  1308. Then why didn't she? I see this comment over and over. I've yet to see an answer as to why she didn't. It can't be answered because no one knows. Only she knows.
    1
  1309. That's true, it's unbearable to think of what this poor child went through 😔
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  1310. 💔 my heart hurts
    1
  1311. That's right
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  1312. Makes money though doesn't it
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  1313. From Doug .C. demeanor in the press conferences, he was angry, haunted. Can't unring that bell, truly horrific circumstances 💔
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  1314. Definitely not
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  1315.  @call.me.archie  I'm sure Alec, grandad murdaugh went to the hospital. I don't think the uncle was at the hospital. IMO
    1
  1316. It's mind boggling that not one person called her out WAY before this. In particular teachers have a duty of care otherwise known in Latin as "loco parentis"
    1
  1317. ​ @catsario7512 I don't recall a name
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  1318. She had a head injury too
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  1319. I agree, but in your opinion should she have been escorted to the bathroom? I've worked in healthcare and with the information provided there were red flags all over her.
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  1320. She had the money to get the best therapy it should never had got to a man losing his life.
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  1321. This guy is a nut job, a dangerous one at that. Guilty as heck!
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  1322. Yes, make them show their face
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  1323. From research it was the head trauma that did it but looks like staging possibly. Wish the truth was found, Jon Benet needs justice 🩷
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  1324. update I've googled it and she passed from both strangulation and blunt force trauma.
    1
  1325. I totally agree, the staff should have prevented this. Hindsight is clear but staff have training to detect denial and family dynamics. What she did was awful, but she had time and more importantly an opportunity. She should never have been alone, observations are vital.
    1
  1326. Oj's son knows more
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  1327. ​ @TheProfessorNM  that's the sad/ unjust thing.. the defense only needs one juror side with her 🙄
    1
  1328. That's the protocol I know too.
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  1329. It certainly appears there are many problems in that home.
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  1330. Feel the same, staff didn't see that one coming who would? Much can be learnt from this. I question her mental capacity.
    1
  1331.  @iffyangel007  it's alot to me too
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  1332. Agreed. Touch” or “transfer” or “trace” DNA is an unreliable method of proving the offense at court-martial.
    1
  1333. Any defense attorney worth their weight will blame them. I've seen medical professionals fired for less serious events. So avoidable, poor baby was failed by everyone.
    1
  1334.  @marlenedeblasio2881  I noticed the tattoos they often have symbolism such as children, passed loved ones, artistic expression. 🤷
    1
  1335. ​ @January.  grammar pedantry syndrome
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  1336. The house is unique, in my opinion it was a goldfish bowl
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  1337.  @catbee1452  she will face punishment, she is an adult. I'm just saying there were many people that contributed to this.
    1
  1338. Praying they are!
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  1339. They have a duty to prevent harm to the patient, she was given freedom and time. If she had been closely monitored she would not have been able to conceal the baby. What she did was horrendous but prevention is everything in a healthcare environment.
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  1340. ​ @susanwest4137 that in itself is a red flag indicator. Have you worked as a nurse or carer?
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  1341.  @susanwest4137  if the timeline is correct ( 19minutes) alone in a bath room she may as well been alone in a public toilet. Staff were aware enough to call the red flags. Hindsight is clear however staff are trained for deception and denial. She needs to face punishment but legally they failed in duty of care.
    1
  1342.  @susanwest4137  like I said she needs to face criminal punishment but any lawyer will find fault with other parties involved. The investigation will show all aspects. Kind regards.
    1
  1343. (I'm from UK ) trashy tabloid talking head
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  1344. ​ @libertyna933  yes the bathrooms are in the hallway but a commode is or can be used in a cubicle. Would have been the perfect time for mother dearest to have been asked to leave.
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  1345. I agree
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  1346. I see your point
    1
  1347. Desperate people will do anything. It's possible she pulled it/ ripped it.
    1
  1348. Baby girl 💔
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  1349. Locked always so creepy in hindsight
    1
  1350. I agree with you
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  1351. Her actions were horrific, she now has to live with that. Much can be learnt by this tragic case.
    1
  1352. Ikr 🙄
    1
  1353. ​ @ldolan4051 absolutely
    1
  1354. Absolutely 😂
    1
  1355. ​ @John-tj4up  It is a 2 way street and the oldest trade, as much as the worker gets paid the user has secrecy and instant gratification. It takes 2!
    1
  1356. Exactly 💯
    1
  1357. Adrenaline, shock, desperation. Her actions were appalling
    1
  1358. It was pointless bringing him in 😞
    1
  1359. Yes, her demeanour/ language said everything
    1
  1360. I managed 2 minutes of this lawyer, got her moment on tv I suppose 😕
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  1361. When he was sat in the police car No tears if they were, it was crocodile tears. Cold as a fish, no remorse, no empathy.
    1
  1362. There must be more to it
    1
  1363. But was he nicknamed "ice man" because he froze all the victims?
    1
  1364. Reports say she had left the child before with neighbours for long periods. It's insane and heartbreaking
    1
  1365. ​ @laurasalo6160  I absolutely 💯 agree
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  1366. Fair points, it only takes one juror to side with her anyway. I can see both sides of this. What a total mess, it was so avoidable.
    1
  1367. The defense has every right to request all DNA documents and the chain of documentation is vital. People often think of DNA as being infallible – and it truly can conclusively prove the innocence of the wrongfully convicted. But we have to be very careful about using the same type of evidence to prove a person’s guilt. Touch DNA is pseudoscience as stated on Google. The jury are the ones to decide, not the public or trial by the media.
    1
  1368. ​ @lisarobbinslauve3825 exactly
    1
  1369. I really hope these individuals are being truthful, but you can't trust everything you see. I might wait for the Behaviour Panel's take on it, as I'm seeing some deception.
    1
  1370. She is mentally damaged for sure
    1
  1371. ​ @NewsLTAI  I didn't either but my hearing is bad 😕
    1
  1372. I always thought Cardi B had tourettes
    1
  1373.  @missa3157  yes that's true
    1
  1374. It's shocking and heartbreaking 💔
    1
  1375. And strangulation both officially are on Google. Anyone can find it 😒
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  1376. ​ @nunyabidnez5857  he was annoyed he wasn't getting the recognition, in court he was proud when recalling each murder.
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  1377. I think the same Many regrets and faults to go around.
    1
  1378. It's awful to think what that house represents 😢
    1
  1379. ​ @GaiaCarney  Agree with you
    1
  1380. Think the same
    1
  1381. She must have been crying, truly horrendous and torturous what that poor baby went through.
    1
  1382. Hoping there is evidence to prove she was complicit
    1
  1383. ​ @dammar117 I completely agree, stunted mental growth.
    1
  1384. I can't believe this, wth 😮
    1
  1385. Doesn't look healthy
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  1386. I think the same, BR had issues. Struck her with a golf club prior, smeared faeces in her belongings. Whatever happened only 2 out of four can say.
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  1387. Mother dearest for sure Also on the list of blame should be: Boyfriend Both family members School teachers Friends One big bubble of denial. Many let that baby down. 💔
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  1388. Zero remorse
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  1389. Good point, my guess is he ruled that household 😔
    1
  1390. Staff did CPR
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  1391. Exactly, denial all round. Teachers have a duty of care also, in Latin it's " loco parentis" many people failed that baby.
    1
  1392. Exactly! My thoughts also. I thought IV morphine was in one report but time will tell. Mother dearest definitely put a spanner in the works for staff to get to the truth. The attorney will highlight hospitals failings rightly or wrongly. Very sad, poor baby 😢
    1
  1393. Agreed, very sad but avoidable.
    1
  1394. ​ @lauramyers4547 well said! ✨ I could not have said it better myself.
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  1395. ​ @analili0 absolutely 💯
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  1396. ​ @elviragonzalez428 then why didn't she ask for help?
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  1397. ​ @kellyarnette4897 exactly! She should have been escorted and monitored
    1
  1398. ​ @pamvuono8858 I agree, they did not handle it as well as they could.
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  1399. ​ @76482 they do have a duty of care once she steps into the hospital, she should never have been allowed to go to the bathroom alone. Visual monitoring is part of the responsibility of staff. She had time and opportunity that she wouldn't have had if she had been accompanied. Her actions are deplorable and she should face some punishment. But her mental health should be considered.
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  1400. ​ @alisha8586 there were red flags all over it, she was obviously pregnant. She should never have been alone, if she had been closely monitored she would not have had the time or opportunity. She was clearly terrified/ in denial.
    1
  1401. ​ @kimward5746 mental capacity has to be considered
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  1402. ​ @cyndib3587 she was obviously pregnant
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  1403. ​ @Kittymay98 no they didn't, but she was a patient under their care, she was left unattended. This is why a patient that is presenting an unknown diagnosis should not be alone. She had time and the opportunity to do what she did. I think she should face a criminal charge but prevention care was not done in this case. The hospital was negligent.
    1
  1404. ​ @volatile7117 that's why staff have training , there were red flags all over it.
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  1405.  @76482  I've worked in hospital/ care facilities and if a patient has as many red flags as she did close visual monitoring/ observations is a duty of care.
    1
  1406.  @mayrareyes8135  that's just it, the hospital staff are responsible they have a duty of care.
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  1407.  @alisha8586  the investigation will show all aspects, as you say it's all opinions. She deserves punishment and consequences. The one good thing to come out of this is lessons learnt. Kind regards.
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  1408.  @alisha8586  she should face criminal punishment but any lawyer will bring up duty of care. That's their job. Her actions were deplorable. Kind regards.
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  1409.  @alisha8586  I agree she needs punishment, hopefully lessons will be learnt. Even in a hospital things can happen, she may as well have been at home. Her actions were deplorable.
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  1410.  @alisha8586  yes she should have done hence what I say if they had escorted her they would have been there. The system will decide, she deserves punishment for sure.
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  1411. His secret life was buried deep
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  1412. ​ @lisaz9820  Exactly, she may have been hallucinating, she is deviant so what is the truth or lies?
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  1413.  @notinavacuum5966  ???
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  1414. ​ @LawTalk- 💯agree
    1
  1415. Exactly, keep your wits about you
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  1416. Tragically so true
    1
  1417. The mother was the last person she needed around.
    1
  1418. So he should
    1
  1419. It really is
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  1420. Appears a young person, looks like she pushes him out if you watch closely. I think he threatened her before he left. Sick pos.
    1
  1421.  @LaLaLonna  yes exactly
    1
  1422. Yet, she still has the time and opportunity to deliver a baby and put it in a trash can. Asking someone if they are ok, and seeing someone is completely different scenarios. Hence she was able to hide her actions. Red flags all over it from the very beginning. Mother and many others are to blame as well as her. Very sad. 😢
    1
  1423. True
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  1424. ​ @soniafigueroa5170 I can't believe they trusted him 😭
    1
  1425. It really is, hindsight is 20 20.
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  1426. ​@ShaeNikagreed
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  1427. She needs accountability and therapy.
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  1428. ​ @jessicagartner2005 agreed, they must be so traumatized 😢
    1
  1429.  @allysahatfield7438  It's shocking that a child that is so obviously in need of mental help is not removed from others. The schools need more power to interject before tragedies happen. I'm glad your daughter is ok bless her 🙏
    1
  1430. Not enough to raise concern and mega quick too 🙄
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  1431. Can't you buy online?
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  1432. Mother is a big factor
    1
  1433. She left the show
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  1434. The young victim it seems, to me it looks like she pushes him out. But everyone's interpretation can be different. I think he threatened her before he left. Sick pos.
    1
  1435. Proctor needs to take the stand
    1
  1436. The two shooter theory may cause probable doubt? 🤦Hung jury
    1
  1437. Right, glory hunter
    1
  1438. From what research I've done they were unable to establish that. I think bones were only found 😢
    1
  1439.  @mysteriousjz  time will tell, but the burner phones, car type. They must have enough, hopefully.
    1
  1440.  @justanotheranonymousaccoun6365  makes sense 👍
    1
  1441.  @Sarah-ic4yu  👍
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  1442. So true
    1
  1443. Justice finally 💟
    1
  1444. ​ @twinkletoes6290  What a fabulous comment Couldn't have said it better myself Bravo! 👏👌⭐✨
    1
  1445. If that's the case then he's got what he wanted.
    1
  1446. Yes!
    1
  1447. ​ @raw6460 absolutely, it would show support. Fantastic idea 💫
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  1448. ​ @Rebecca-hc5ju  absolutely, the shame and dissociation was a major factor. She never bonded emotionally whilst pregnant let alone on delivery. If her mother had not been around I think the situation would have been different. So tragic, poor baby.
    1
  1449. ​ @katw3070 ikr, thought prom dresses were long and flowing? Showing my age maybe 🤔
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  1450. ​ @cindyrice6625 mother had to control herself as there were witnesses, she can shout loudly though. Domineering for sure
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  1451. ​ @moniqua9123 she objectified the baby zero bonding
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  1452. Fact
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  1453. Not morphine then?
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  1454. ​ @WarriorGirl_113 LE caught btk by his own ego, they traced his IP address after him communication with LE. Imo obviously.
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  1455. It's shocking she needs consequences, I can't help thinking that if her mother hadn't been there things would have been different.
    1
  1456. Agreed
    1
  1457. Exactly 👏
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  1458. That's what her defense team will say, sad but true.
    1
  1459. Well said
    1
  1460. Another thing they were all at the hospital as a family, they knew.
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  1461. The land owner, that is no longer with us?
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  1462. RL I mean
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  1463. 19 going on 10 years old
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  1464. ​ @victoriasadler1426 or l.e. turning a blind eye, even more frightening 😮
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  1465. Well said 👏
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  1466. Refused all physical exams
    1
  1467.  @110311DONTWANTCHANNE  it's certainly given the defense attorney something there. Time will tell I suppose.
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  1468. Touch” or “transfer” or “trace” DNA is an unreliable method of proving the offense at court-martial.
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  1469. Desperate
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  1470. She appears schizophrenic, the drug abuse opened many doors in her brain, such a damaged brain. Let's hope the experts keep her medicated for the safety of anyone around her.
    1
  1471. Some reports say they gave CPR
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  1472. Absolutely agree, mother dearest was a major problem
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  1473. ​ @Jammn126  and that's where the defense will have to prove hospital negligence.
    1
  1474. ​ @TheLeijosa exactly 💯
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  1475. ​ @lindah7656 yes me too
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  1476. Law change is needed
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  1477. The mother clearly had cognitive dissonance regarding her daughter. A stranger would know she was pregnant and clearly in denial.
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  1478. A stranger would have known she was pregnant, I've worked in medical environments and things go wrong quickly. Prevention is everything. There is much blame to go around.
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  1479. Very much
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  1480. Or maybe he passed out, and she rolled/ got him in some how
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  1481. ​ @OddWoz yes, learning that it is not that much depends on what is found. Thanks for your explanation 👍
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  1482. They didn't try resuscitation, in my opinion they hold some accountability but many are to blame for this. Not one person made her accountable before delivery. Denial across a vast scale.
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  1483.  @Scottishgirl754  hence why I say there is blame on many levels, the minute she was admitted to hospital the staff had a duty of care. Prevention is everything. She had time and opportunity whilst alone. Monitoring/ observations are crucial. What she did was criminal but her mental health/ capacity is another issue. It's very sad.
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  1484.  @honeybadgerknockoutbadgers9642  yes totally, I've seen medical staff get the blame so many times however she was of legal age whilst in their care. I've opened so many doors to ensure a visual. It's a complex situation and I feel for the staff concerned. Time will tell.
    1
  1485. Ikr so disrespectful
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  1486. She knowingly neglected her child, she should be locked up too.
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  1487. ​ @missychan63 yes, he will take it to the grave
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  1488. I think so too
    1
  1489. ​ @amymay6591 😮
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  1490. Absolutely, they act like it is a joke
    1
  1491. Think the same
    1
  1492. Exactly, so desperate. Her actions were deplorable but any defense attorney worth their weight will find a gap.
    1
  1493. It's only speculation at the moment 😕
    1
  1494.  @helenab7390  Apologies 😟 the guests are judgemental
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  1495. Add drugs into that and you can get someone such as her.
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  1496. Wrong case
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  1497. One of the best comments I've seen ✨ It's's a tragic case but as you say it's not the first or the last time it will happen. This young woman is not evil as some have stated, she was cornered, her mother's oppressive nature only exasperated her mind set in my opinion. I think if the mother had not been at the hospital things could have been very different. It will be in the hands of a jury one day.
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  1498. I totally concur with you. There was neglect from staff, they failed to keep the patient and child safe and well.
    1
  1499. Sibling jealousy has to be considered
    1
  1500.  @kazbah1217  hilarious
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  1501. ​ @lynnek7257 😂
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  1502. 👌
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  1503.  @luisbohorquez7096  thanks 🙏
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  1504. Someone with zero empathy can do this.
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  1505. Desperate run in my opinion
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  1506.  @AprilKristel  ikr 🙄
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  1507. Well said 👏
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  1508. No words 😳
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  1509. They removed IV so she could go to the bathroom.
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  1510. To understand it is a dark rabbit hole.
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  1511. ​@@bluebellflora2510well said, they were negligent as well as the mother. Won't be surprised if she has cognitive issues, 19 going on 10
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  1512. This happened in a hospital... Exactly! She may as well have stayed at home and discarded the poor baby. The staff dropped the ball in my opinion, I've worked in many healthcare environments and preventative care is part of everyday staff roles. To remove an IV from a patient who then goes solo to a toilet without observation is risky. If the mother/ medical staff had insisted on observing her she would not have had time/ opportunity. There is plenty of blame around: Herself Both families School teachers/ friends Hospital All failed the baby 💔 Any defense attorney worth their weight will be able to find excuses. Time will tell.
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  1513. Ikr! I caught that 😦
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  1514. Yes, well said
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  1515. Kevin Spacey, yes! Lol
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  1516.  @lydibug51  🤣
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  1517. Exactly
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  1518. Makes sense
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  1519. I recall in one report that it was her brother who actually took her to the ER for severe back pain, so the mother must have arrived after. In my opinion if the mother was not present she would have had the baby and given it up for adoption. But... At that stage she was cornered, I'm not excusing her actions they were appalling. These family dynamics are way off and the mother appears bat shi* crazy. I'm sure the whole truth will come to light.
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  1520. He is gross 🤢
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  1521. Her mental health will be in question
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  1522. Guilty knowledge possibly
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  1523. The f b I were already in town of course they led this case
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  1524. Sorry but I laughed out loud at your comment 🤣 much needed light relief! Thank you 😊
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  1525. He probably knew there were cameras, both were abusive it was just a matter of time before one of them was unalived.
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  1526. Plenty of blame to go around
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  1527. It's a shame the hospital was the last defense for that baby, but through her deceit she fooled them. I feel for the staff as her attorney will blame staff.
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  1528. Would hate to walk a mile in their shoes 🥹
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  1529. I've always been frustrated by the video, it doesn't show the gait properly.
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  1530. No one really knows what a family dynamic is like unless you see it.
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  1531. Check, double check, triple check!
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  1532. Your comment makes sense to me 👌
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  1533. Justice has been served 👍
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  1534. Well said, there was obviously denial and not one person stood up and sorted it before it got to the sad outcome. If only she had someone to talk to, in my opinion the mother is overbearing to her own destruction. I'm thinking the same as you.
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  1535. Butter wouldn't melt look lol
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  1536. It's just her manner of interviewing, it's overly cordial that's for sure
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  1537. He will be forced to face it
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  1538. People have k**led for less, sad but true 😞
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  1539. ​ @burgundyjayde most likely
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  1540. Yes, the bottom line is she will be med managed for life. It's very sad that cases like this happen.
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  1541. I do too
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  1542. I'm thinking the same, could it mean the baby could have been revived?
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  1543. Fact 👏
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  1544. If it's taken down the closest the jury will get is if there is a virtual tour recording shown. I can see both sides.
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  1545. Autopsy showed the baby had air in his lungs, it's best to research yourself 👍
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  1546. ​ @Scottishgirl754 is a great point, I'm not sure
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  1547.  @dawnlove1014  from what I can tell the staff did not perform CPR, so the baby took breath. It got confusing for me when one of the guests on here ( Dr) said CPR had been done. From all other reports there was definitely no CPR and the autopsy showed air in lungs.
    1
  1548. People can have double, third and more lives all compartmentalized it's frightening.
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  1549.  @j.c.7555  obviously they want it before trial 🤷
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  1550.  @j.c.7555  yes but it has to be asked if there was other DNA found why it wasn't processed. Where were the other three DNA found? Why isn't that relevant in a quadruple murder case?Isn't that what defense are doing? Bringing attention to that fact?
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  1551.  @j.c.7555  yes so it was processed, defense is asking for the chain of that documentation. Prosecution says they can't give what they don't have. It's like a never ending conversation, the judge took control yesterday. Thankfully.
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  1552.  @bleepbloopbleep  A teachers duty of care is often referred to as " in loco parentis"
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  1553.  @error404webpagenotfound  think the same, and she needs legal punishment for her actions. The hospital was negligent in their duty of care. I feel for the staff I really do.
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  1554.  @bleepbloopbleep  I'm sure she will have punishment
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  1555. ​ @TannerGoated they must have evidence
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  1556. It appears that something delayed her, to be in so much denial came to such a tragic conclusion.
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  1557. Rightly or wrongly it takes only one juror to side with her.
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  1558. ​ @Miss.831 wasn't she put on a morphine IV ?
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  1559. 🙏🙏🙏
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  1560. One word....Delusional
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  1561. ​ @MarieShauna 😭
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  1562. Good point
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  1563. Obvious yes, her demeanour/ language spoke volumes.
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  1564. much truth in your comment,
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  1565. That's their job
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  1566. Then why didn't she? It's the main question I've yet to find an answer to. 🤷
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  1567. ​ @phillipgalan660  oh dear, that's shocking
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  1568. Exactly, I wish she could have heard those words. Prevention is everything, there are many to blame. She might be 19 years old but is younger mentally. No excuses but things could have been different if someone like you spoke to her. 💟
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  1569. Back pain from what I can tell
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  1570. ​ @faffounette she would not let them touch her, i.v. was took off, she was on her own until she came out of toilet.
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  1571. One way ticket hopefully
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  1572. It must have a meaning, linked to drugs no doubt.
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  1573.  @marieassaad-faltas1299  absolutely
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  1574. I think she should face some prosecution for the death of her baby. However they removed the IV so she could go to the bathroom, in my opinion she should have been escorted. I've worked in a care environment and things go wrong quickly. there were red flags all over this patient. At 19 years she should have been able to speak without her mother's presence. I think her cognitive function could be questioned. It's just so sad.
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  1575. They did in my opinion too
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  1576. Looks have nothing to do with it
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  1577.  @Thinkingisallowed  absolutely you are no offence intended
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  1578.  @Thinkingisallowed  💫💟
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  1579. Personally I feel Casey Anthony should have been an actress..... And I say that with some reservation. Let's be honest she is in no way credible the latest stunt of one sided documentary confirms that. I wish that her father would put the last nail in, at this point he has nothing to lose.
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  1580. I've finally read a comment that I agree with. Many people failed that baby. So avoidable 💔
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  1581. It's not clear is it?
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  1582. Yeah think so too
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  1583. I'm still trying to work it out 😭
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  1584. He will be haunted no doubt he deserves every sleepless night.
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  1585. Agreed, too many to mention failed that poor baby
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  1586. Unforgivable, sorry
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  1587. ​ @aleksandra_c her actions are indeed appalling, we all know defense will find every loop hole possible.
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  1588. Insanity for sure
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  1589. It really was
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  1590. ​ @susanwest4137  Her denials, deflections, demeanour are all in itself a HUGE red flag, she should have been escorted and observed to ensure her own safety. To give her morphine without a physical exam is one for the experts which no doubt the trial will cover. By her refusing examination is again a huge red flag. She was a patient in their care they have authority to ask questions and observe dynamics. The doctor should have asked the mother to leave on grounds of patient confidentiality unless it's proven she is mentally challenged and needs a guardian at all times. Just because she has a above average IQ means nothing. Anyone with a brain can see the mother was domineering and controlling. The mother made things 1000 times worse and obviously stopped her from admitting the truth. It's the staff's responsibility to read between the lines, I feel for them I really do, but in the eyes of medical duty of care they failed their patient in a negligent way. If staff insisted on a visual for her own safety none of this would have happened and if staff had observed her they would have known that delivery was imminent. I've worked with medical professionals that have been accused/ investigated/ prosecuted for much less serious incidents. Any defense attorney will say negligence, do you really think the hospital bears no responsibility ? She needs legal punishment and must face her actions. The hospital/ staff were that baby's last defense. All those around her for 9 months and not one person called her out with authority. She needs to face reality and I hope many lessons will be learnt from all involved in this avoidable tragedy. The baby was failed by her and many others.
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  1591. Was wondering too,
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  1592. Stay strong,don't let it take you over. Easier said than done. ✨
    1
  1593. And particularly children 😞
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  1594. Dash cam for sure
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  1595. Mother going to jail, where is the source please? I hadn't heard that
    1
  1596.  @lam19bo  wow, lots of information then. Thank you 👍
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  1597. ​ @suburbantrapqueen  I'm going to be hooked 👍✨
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  1598. Exactly
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  1599. Hardly shocking in the grand scheme of things
    1
  1600.  @January.  Oh ok 👌
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  1601.  @January.  I worked through all the COVID lockdowns and know all about PPE. Go argue with someone else.
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  1602. Many intertextualities, time will tell. Race should be no factor.
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  1603. Exactly
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  1604. The defense will use that for sure, plus she was unattended for a lengthy amount of time whilst under care of staff. She must face her actions but many let that baby down.
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  1605. Exactly great points, the defense will put the client before an potential 'abusive mother" I personally see mental/ psychological pressure on Alexee. Her actions were abhorrent however any defense attorney worth their weight will blame others for her actions. It's a terrible case, many lessons should be learned.
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  1606. She will lawyer up soon
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  1607. It actually takes money to sue, which he has clearly
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  1608. One question I would ask the jury is if you don't think SHE did it. Who did? Fools.
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  1609. From my take watching and listening to available sources and this is only imo, a preliminary pregnancy test was positive but she denied it repeatedly, also refused all physical exams. So staff were pending further tests. They put her on an IV morphine drip but she said she needed the toilet so they removed the IV. She then went to the toilet SOLO. Her mother and staff asked her several times if she was ok but no one had a visual check on her. This gave her time and opportunity. Any defense attorney will find any way to defend their client, it's their job. Too many to mention let the poor soul down. Lessons to be learnt I hope 🙏
    1
  1610. Exactly, it looks like he has significant mental health issues. Evidence is needed 🤞
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  1611. ​ @QUECARDOZA so brave
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  1612. Deity being brought up signifies desperation to me and it worked.
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  1613. Hope not! 😕
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  1614. Goes in defenses favour
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  1615. Just a facade
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  1616. There were red flags however the young woman should have been spoken to alone. Mother dearest should have been told to leave pending tests.
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  1617. So not one person in her life thought she was pregnant? It's was obvious to most strangers The school, friends, boyfriend, all family members knew nothing? She was obviously pregnant. Her actions were deliberate and appalling. Hospital staff should have asked the mother to leave. She is legally responsible unless proven otherwise. Just one person could have prevented this. So sad 😢
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  1618. ​ @MagnoliaBelle369 I totally agree, this opinion is very much in the minority though.
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  1619. ​ @dawnatkinson7704 a member of staff should have been with her. Monitoring is vital
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  1620. ​ @SavvyMuhon 19 minutes
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  1621. ​ @tracymarquez6875 exactly
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  1622. ​ @natashaburrell7615 I think so too, blame on many parts.
    1
  1623. ​ @analakic7789 let me ask, if one staff member had escorted her to the bathroom would this have happened? She was there for 19 mins alone. Yes mother and staff asked if she was ok but there was zero observation on her. The fact they gave her morphine may complicate things. Her actions were awful and should face consequences. There is plenty of blame to go around. herself, family, school, friends, boyfriend and family.
    1
  1624. ​ @dawnatkinson7704 she should have been assisted / monitored.
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  1625. ​ @andreaperini3982 there is a sense in what you are saying, if she had been escorted to the bathroom she would not have been able to act out what she did.
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  1626. ​ @griseldadominguez8734 yet they still gave pain relief, and ons and monitoring were minimal. There were red flags all over her let alone being obviously pregnant to even a stranger.
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  1627. ​ @stonecrestquilt totally agree in my opinion the hospital staff took their eyes off the ball. The family dynamics were off, red flags all over it from the start.
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  1628. ​@tangodown2x2x14many people failed that baby
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  1629. ​ @griseldadominguez8734 big red flag
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  1630. ​ @Ilikerainydayz  Have you ever worked in a hospital/ ER dept/ care home facility? have you any experience in the medical care field? I have for 15 years, and preventative care is standard practice. She was obviously pregnant, her demeanour was suspicious, refusing physical exams, the family dynamics were odd/ off The mother should have been asked to leave whilst she underwent tests etc. There were red flags all over this patient from the get go Intuition and common sense is very much needed. As for allowing her to go to the toilet alone is madness. I've opened many locked doors far quicker than in this situation to prevent incidents of self harm, falling, collapsing. In medical environments things can go wrong quickly, staff are trained to see red flags. She obviously should be punished for her actions but there is plenty of blame to go around. In my opinion her family, the boyfriends family, school teachers/ friends, hospital staff all contributed in this tragic case. Much can be learnt. Any defense attorney worth their weight will blame others we all know that. Time will tell, I've seen many medical professionals get disciplinaries, investigated, and dismissed for much less serious a case than this. Kind regards
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  1631. ​ @em9316  well if the staff are faultless then she may as well have had the baby in a ditch. She should have been accompanied to the toilet, considering IV had been in place and was removed so she could go to the toilet alone... only gave her the time and opportunity. Her actions were horrific and deserve a punishment but many people failed that poor baby. Her family and the bf's family School teachers/ friends Plenty of blame to share around.
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  1632. Oh ok 👌
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  1633. It's good if by the Investigators looking into cold cases it has resulted in this case finally being solved. But I don't think it is wise to give DR any further spot light. Especially given the other profile case that is currently all over the news.
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  1634. ​ @msaijay1153 think the same
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  1635. I believe her brother was the one who originally took her to the hospital for back pain, she was in denial possibly and the fear of exposure led her to act. Very sad
    1
  1636. I think you are right, there is so much wrong in that family. She was obviously pregnant to anyone with sight. How did it get to this? 😢
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  1637. It was her hair, transferred I presume
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  1638. As usual the victim is lost in the attention/ BS of the accused and her tap of tears got her off lightly. I only see pity plays. R.I.P. Brenda
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  1639. Only the two left can say and they won't. Forever silent.
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  1640. Yes, possibly stalking her prior.
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  1641. Probably lawyered up
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  1642. Research it
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  1643. Such a liar
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  1644. Yes I feel the same, worked in healthcare and things go wrong quickly. They took their eye off the ball. The mother made the situation worse.She should have been treated as an adult and clearly told her choices/ facts The denial went on right to the end. Poor baby.
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  1645. Right
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  1646. Many intertextualities with that case.
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  1647. I get you, healthcare environments can be hectic, complacent. It's such a horrible situation.
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  1648. Madeline needs justice, they both belong in jail . Reading the comments breaks my heart, respect and best wishes to all that have survived ❤
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  1649. Yes me too!
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  1650. Pity play and self justification
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  1651. That's very well said. I think they had a false sense of security. Many people came and went from that house so the risks were very high. I asked my husband (who for context is on the autism scale) what he thought of this case as he doesn't follow any crime at all. By only giving him basic facts of the case his response was " if that house was known as a party house then they more or less invited it in" he also looked at a plan of the house and said the perpetrator/s knew the house and gaining entry was a piece of pi*s his words. It's heartbreaking 💔
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  1652. This went crazy quick! It certainly woke the sleepy courtroom security up. Shame on him.
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  1653. I saw red flags all over her as a patient I think they dropped the ball. Her actions were deplorable however there is plenty of blame to go around
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  1654. ​ @JaimeMesChiens  can I ask you, the fact she refused all physical exams and would not undress is that a sign of denial? Red flags? From what I gather she was put on a IV drip which was removed for her to go to the bathroom solo. Is that normal? I worked in a hospital and I always escorted patients with pending diagnosis and particularly if in pain to the bathroom. Preventative measures are so important I can't help but think any defense attorney worth their weight will find blame where possible. She needs to be punished but many people failed that baby.
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  1655. Fact 👏
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  1656. ​ @Ms.Brightside77  Her father is in for SA of a minor, the mother died of alcoholism, her husband I'm not sure.
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  1657.  @Ms.Brightside77  I haven't heard that but who knows
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  1658. Stay vigilant until he's caught
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  1659. He looks like a ghost, tbh he doesn't sound good either. Looks about 80 yrs 😳
    1
  1660. That trial is never ending,but I hope the victims get justice
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  1661. ​ @2busywinning that's infuriating
    1
  1662. I agree with you, chances are it was targeted.
    1
  1663. ​ @gwynhyfer I agree
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  1664. ​@@sigh-ruhdefense attorney will defend rightly or wrongly
    1
  1665. So right
    1
  1666. I totally agree, the house was a goldfish bowl, security is so important. Bless them all they were all beautiful souls.
    1
  1667. Won't the jury see the crime scene photos anyway
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  1668. It's a miracle!
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  1669. I agree, prevention care is vital.
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  1670. He must have had a number of masks
    1
  1671. She actually believed she could get away with it. Now that's her true colours. Never been held accountable. She is now. Good!
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  1672. Then how did this happen?
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  1673.  @terry_eLLe  very avoidable if only one person around her told her to face reality she obviously is lacking something to do what she did.
    1
  1674. Yes, exactly
    1
  1675. Sounds like it 😞
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  1676. That is the number one question, it's all so mind boggling 😵‍💫
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  1677. Originally yes but now says not guilty, joke!
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  1678. Any defense attorney worth their weight will blame the hospital rightly or wrongly but I hope she faces punishment
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  1679. Yes, I thought that
    1
  1680. What she did was awful, the last defense was the hospital. Poor baby
    1
  1681. I agree with you, feelings don't matter it's negligence from a legal stance. I've opened doors to get a visual on a patient, to lose visual obs for so long is negligence. I've seen medical professionals struck off for less serious incidents. I feel for all staff but they took their eye off the patient. She deserves legal punishment and counselling to face her reality and actions.
    1
  1682. Blunt force trauma and strangulation are on Google anyone can see/ find. Just another false narrative
    1
  1683. ​ @camellia8625 very possible
    1
  1684.  @AMunoz-rh9cz  absolutely, I understand
    1
  1685. Exactly
    1
  1686. Yes, seen it. I agree the truth is out there but buried deep.
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  1687. Time will tell but I have to agree I think hospital staff took their eyes off the ball. Her denials, demeanour spoke volumes. I feel for the staff of the hospital but a decent defense attorney will rip them a new one. Personally I blame a list of people. Poor baby 💔
    1
  1688. Same here 🥹
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  1689. Probable doubt introduced at a nice price 👍
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  1690. New laws are needed for animals such as this
    1
  1691.  @dudemorris7769  I haven't heard that is that from a source?
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  1692. The lies will not end anytime soon Justice and answers will be slow but never lose hope. R.I.P. Mallory Beach ✨ Forever young✨
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  1693. 11 has been said on reports
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  1694. Me too, 15 years in healthcare. The pain relief was minimal however the monitoring of her was also minimal.
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  1695.  @CourtTV  I would think so, she is mentally fixed in her beliefs.
    1
  1696. Fact
    1
  1697. Well said!
    1
  1698. Sadly, any tabloid is not trust worthy
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  1699. Ditto 🙏
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  1700. Me too, sad but true
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  1701. Anyone in her life would have known she was pregnant, denials only get so far.
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  1702.  @LightLight-nf5tl  so he is the potential f*ll g*y, or pa**y?
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  1703. Really? I don't think so. Family dynamics spoke volumes to me, how desperate do you have to be to do what she did. She needs punishment but much can be learned from this. Many people failed that poor baby
    1
  1704.  @kimclarke5018  I agree, I think the defense will prove negligence.
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  1705. Imo whoever swung first is to blame
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  1706. ​ @janehamber  Feeling the same, she presented denial, red flags, her demeanour/ behaviours were telling. She needs to face her actions and face a punishment. Many people failed that poor baby.
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  1707. I get you 😊 she's not evil like some say. I'm just trying to work out why she did it, fear, mentally compromised, she obviously had no bond during the pregnancy so why would she on delivery? One way to look at it is she went to a hospital and still did what she did. "If's" are pointless now but if someone had had a visual on her whilst using the b/ room she would not have had any excuse. I believe she needs consequences/ punishment / counselling but lessons need to be learnt all round. Denials, rejection, fear of pregnancy does happen, the why needs to be answered to avoid this in the future. Another "if" If her own mother had not been in the cubicle when pregnancy was confirmed would things have been different? The trial will answer many questions I have but she is not evil, I believe she was in deep denial which in turn on delivery she rejected and disposed of her baby. I'm like you I feel compassion for her, if I had been around her I would have talked to her and told her what reality looks like and that she had options. P.s. I've worked in healthcare environments for over 15 years. Best wishes to you 🙏
    1
  1708.  @ChloesMicroChip  it's a tough one for sure, I've seen a lot whilst working in hospitals/ care homes for 20 years and this didn't shock me. Very little does. I'm in agreement with her possibly being on the spectrum it would explain her flat affect. Time will tell. Wishing you all the best. 💫
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  1709. Defense has a duty to their client to look at everything available.
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  1710. Yes 👌
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  1711. It's horrifying to think what she went through
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  1712. Not going to happen, he'd have to leave first
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  1713. But they did unhook the IV and she was alone in the cubicle.
    1
  1714. Agreed.
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  1715.  @lmn1966  Source?
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  1716. I know what you mean, I've no children so I'm not sure what it looks like. Glad I'm not the only one.
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  1717. (From UK) so do county LE chiefs have power over the FBI? He kicked them off, how does that work?
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  1718. Red flags in itself
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  1719. Prolonged denial caused her to objectify her baby, she had no emotional bond. Reality came knocking and she did the ultimate sin. Punishment is needed but lessons should be learnt.
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  1720. It's buried deep imo
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  1721.  @slimskatie9524  couldn't agree more
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  1722.  @slimskatie9524  absolutely, you are so right. Respect to you ✨💫⭐
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  1723. Source for this please?
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  1724. It was avoidable at so many turns
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  1725. Great advice 👍
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  1726.  @OShackHennessy  I'm not grasping at anything, 8 TB seems a lot to me. No need to be an a**hole about it !
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  1727.  @OShackHennessy  yes I get what you are saying, 8 TB is not that much.
    1
  1728. 🙏✨
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  1729. Bad acting IMO
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  1730. It's crazy that they are waking freely 🥹
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  1731. From the reports thus far it appears she refused all physical exams, was put on a morphine drip, preliminary pregnancy test confirmed pregnancy the staff were awaiting further tests, she wanted to use the toilet, staff removed IV and she went un escorted to the toilet. From the video the mother and staff asked if she was ok several times however they DID NOT have a visual on her. Hence she had time and opportunity to do the horrific act. She needs to face consequences and get in reality. Many people let that poor baby down prior to the hospital, herself, both families, school teachers/ friends. So avoidable but hopefully lessons can be learnt. 🙏
    1
  1732. I feel for the staff.. but.. the hospital/ staff was the last defense for that baby. Any attorney will say negligence.
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  1733. Conflicting reports
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  1734. Thanks for the confirmation I was unsure
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  1735. I do agree with you, entitlement is a factor.
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  1736. It's very disappointing that court TV did this
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  1737. Simplicity! I agree with you 👍
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  1738. I understand your points, the trial will answer many questions.
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  1739. If a jury can find Hannah guilty then the same should be found for AB. The leading prosecutor is more than capable of bringing him down, she won't be star struck. Halyna needs full justice.
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  1740. I think she refused a physical exam etc
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  1741. Whatever her intentions, her malicious, cruel actions resulted in his death A lengthly prison sentence will give her some perspective, maybe. 😞
    1
  1742. She did have a head trauma the garrote was not the cause, some might say staging
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  1743. Let's hope he did 🤞
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  1744. 😂
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  1745. ​ @susanwest4137 that makes the staff negligent!!!
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  1746. Totally agree
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  1747. Jose has not aged, this case will change that.
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  1748. She was on an IV drip but wanted to go to the bathroom so the IV was removed. She was alone and had time and the opportunity to do what she did. She does need punishment but many lessons should be learnt.
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  1749. If timelines are accurate it would not have hurt to try resuscitation.
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  1750. Ditto 🙏
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  1751. That's the problem the pictures could get into the wrong hands. They shouldn't be for public view, he was a child.
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  1752.  @9babyblu  👍💫
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  1753. Agreed
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  1754. ​ @kenderyalclemons7792 what???
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  1755. 👍
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  1756. Greed! Follow the money
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  1757. ​ @SiriusV23 they found his wife's hair
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  1758.  @terrarayner8766  me too!
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  1759.  @hannahsurber662  most plausible explanation
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  1760.  @MrsEvilRX  there is certainly a lot going on with the family dynamics, she appears immature but not stupid. I would like to be a fly on the wall in their home. The mother appears a driving force, hopefully the trial will give us clarity.
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  1761. Agreed, the shame she felt overrode any logical thinking. She will face punishment I'm sure but many people failed that baby.
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  1762. I've asked that before and got no logical answer. The closest thing to an answer I read was " the knife sheath could have been planted in the window of time, before the LE was called". Not sure of the percentage in support for BK but it's interesting there is so many in my opinion. The trial will be interesting.
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  1763. Good point, her mother filled her with such fear. No excuse but explains her secrecy, denials, shame. So avoidable 💔
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  1764. ​ @dec1slh is there any reason you are so rude?
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  1765.  @dec1slh  ☺️ thanks
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  1766. So many failed this poor soul.
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  1767. Some reporting says staff did CPR
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  1768. I agree with you, although we are in the minority. I get so much backlash. 😢
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  1769. Remember he put her in that position, I feel sorry for her.
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  1770.  @ShannyShan20  he was very weak
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  1771. Sure did
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  1772. I think he lost capacity through the brain injury but he must do time for his crime, no excuse.
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  1773.  @houseofsolomon2440  Let's hope he gets an adequate sentence, as he needs to face his actions, but also therapy.
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  1774. Maybe he passed out and she got him in there.
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  1775.  @The-nichole  but he could he have regained consciousness none of us really know. Is she likely to admit she got him in there when he passed out?
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  1776. Agreed, I saw on one video whilst she was stood in court the male officer stood behind her and was totally checking her a*s out. Very obvious 😳
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  1777. ​ @susanwest4137 no they did not. But they allowed her to be in the bathroom alone for an extended period of time. Duty of care was void in this case.
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  1778. The staff were in a tough position, if only they could have examined her
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  1779. 😱 terrifying
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  1780. ​ @innocentnemesis3519 I get you and agree 💯
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  1781. ​ @sunitamosesesq  the skull fracture was the cause of death
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  1782. ​ @lace1245  From what I've read there were signs of histrionic ab*se
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  1783. ​ @lyndseyjacobson2424 BR had an electric train set in the basement have a look into it
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  1784. ​@ericaraposo8310guilty knowledge
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  1785. ​ @helenwells9819 very informative thanks
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  1786. ​ @GoldRangerFanGirl35 only because it was taken no further by the DA
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  1787.  @marieassaad-faltas1299  absolutely
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  1788. Think so too
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  1789. The attorney will go after the hospital for sure.
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  1790. I agree, she needed close monitoring.
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  1791. What an example to the children of today.
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  1792.  @Sharpstoned  no need for dramatics or rudeness. I meant this type of behaviour is an awful example for children.
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  1793. She refused all physical exams, denied repeatedly her pregnancy. If her mother hadn't been there I think she would have fessed up. So heartbreaking and avoidable 💔 poor baby.
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  1794. Report her channel that's a start, I did.
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  1795. Agree with you about the hospital staff, but many people failed that poor baby.
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  1796. I have to agree, the mothers language and responses speak volumes.
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  1797. I agree, the hospital was the last defence for that baby and I feel for all staff that were affected 😞but her lies and her mother's presence made it so tricky. Lessons will be learnt hopefully.
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  1798. Ikr 🥹
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  1799.  @barbarahill4767  Good to know
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  1800. Wtf I know
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  1801. Karma will wait patiently
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  1802. Postural asphyxia 😭
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  1803. Many don't
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  1804. ​ @susanwest4137  then who should have known? She and family were either in denial or crazy. She was in a hospital, they are trained to know.
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  1805. He can only be linked to 3 but I could be wrong, gets confusing 😭
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  1806. Yes, great point
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  1807. The hospital staff took their eyes off the ball in my opinion.
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  1808. All he has is time... To think up more lies. I hope he is not just physically locked down tight but mentally also. A rotten soul.
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  1809. Didn't the judge call it
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  1810. I'm thinking of him too, I think she wanted out of the relationship.
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  1811. They did confirm pregnancy however refused physical examinations, repeatedly denied pregnancy so further tests were done. She had IV pain relief but needed the bathroom, the rest is history.
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  1812. ​ @carrielynch177  hindsight is always clear but she should face consequences. I get your point, it will only take 1 juror to side with her.
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  1813.  @jessicagartner2005  She is claiming self defense, would she not have feared for her children too? Only those that were there and witnesses will know. I found this on Google 👇 A key witness for the prosecution will be Johnson’s 8-year-old daughter, who allegedly saw the shooting. Prosecutors say the child and her then-2-month-old sister were the only other people inside the house during the shooting.
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  1814. Neighbours did hear a scream and lights on in the Ramsey house there are so many documentaries out there. Just wish the truth would come out. Poor Jon Benet 💔
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  1815. Sadistic creep
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  1816. The trial will put further light on it.
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  1817. Justice 🩵
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  1818. What a circus
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  1819. Ikr, none of them know what it is like they are just running their gobs.
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  1820. Adrenaline has to be considered.
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  1821. My take is they confirmed pregnancy but she denied it, refused examination, was put on IV pain relief but the dr's were pending further test results she was then took off IV so she could use the bathroom. The Rest is history. So sad it came to this.
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  1822. There was much wrong in that relationship to do what she did. She and the mother need to face the consequences legally but it's important to understand her actions.
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  1823. They are beyond help, shocking
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  1824. There is a sense in what you say, however she must face consequences. Many let the poor soul down, lessons to be taken from this avoidable circus.
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  1825.  @ritapearl-im3wv  I get what you are saying 🙂💜
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  1826. No
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  1827. ​ @lonewolfgirl3976 absolutely
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  1828. The amount of people that knew/ suspected a pregnancy astounds me
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  1829. 😂😂
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  1830. Depends what type of parent they are, if you have a narcissist as a parent you won't be loved. Considering the dysfunction in this family drugs, crime seems to be the bond.
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  1831. Agree, she should have been observed close and any bathroom visit should have been escorted. She had time/ opportunity to do a deplorable thing. Prevention/ duty of care was on staff.
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  1832. Happens every single day
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  1833. Some would say she was exploited
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  1834. Makes sense
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  1835. Feel the same
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  1836. 3D will be adequate
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  1837. Totally agree 👍 the defense is twisting, muddying the waters!
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  1838. Agreed
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  1839. ​@@busys8286what medium was that?
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  1840. They still could have tried CPR
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  1841.  @masterkni666  I've heard conflicting reports, time will tell
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  1842.  @masterkni666  yes absolutely 💯
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  1843. Google
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  1844. It appears there was a collected bubble of denial. Mind boggling
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  1845. Agreed there was a clear view into the bedrooms, sadly they probably had a sense of security due to their popularity. They deserved to be able to live out their lives but evil lurks in the darkness.
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  1846. The arrogance of this woman is staggering. 😮
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  1847. ​ @January. 👍
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  1848. None of them have worked in a hospital. It's the most stressful job I ever had.
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  1849. No from reports she refused all physical checks.
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  1850. Which one ?
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  1851. The trial will clear things up. Details are so important.
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  1852. Both are shrouded in conspiracy 🙄
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  1853. 😂
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  1854. Oh that's ok then ... 😵‍💫
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  1855. She refused all physical exams
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  1856. ​ @dodgingbullets3503 see what you mean
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  1857. Defense attorney will
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  1858. Staff should have insisted on talking to her alone with the right words spoken to her she would have crumbled. She must have been so desperate. Her actions deserve punishment but many people failed that poor baby.
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  1859. 🦂
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  1860. Digital evidence Camera footage Actions/ behaviours Potentially a witness that can place him at the scene. A fair trial is vital.
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  1861. I think she knows that 🙄
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  1862. Suffocation
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  1863. Maybe from DNA
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  1864. Much money has been made and moved to keep this secret.
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  1865. Humans are corrupt
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  1866.  @lisasternenkind6467  yes could be, it's hard to know for sure
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  1867. 🙏🩵
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  1868. Good point
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  1869. I recall from one report that it was her brother that took her to the ER for severe back pain. Mother dearest turned up, I'm thinking it wouldn't have happened if she had been alone and able to tell staff, deliver and then give the baby up for adoption. By the mother being there it cornered her, literally in the bathroom. The fear of her mother was a force stronger than anything. Family dynamics are way off. No excuses but could explain her actions.
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  1870. Oh yes
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  1871. Absolutely 💯
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  1872. They maybe still trying to link him to them, but I'm not sure
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  1873. Accidental death too
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  1874. I have to agree with you, well said. I wrote very similar and got back lash. Expect that but you are absolutely right, any defense attorney worth their weight will state what you have. Thanks ✨ p.s. I've worked in healthcare environments for 20 years and in my opinion the hospital staff were the baby's last defense and they failed. I feel for them but they should hold accountability also.
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  1875. I agree with you
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  1876. They asked if she was ok several times but couldn't see her, she lied to all around her. She needs punishment but lessons need to be learnt so this can't happen again.
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  1877. So true, there was not enough evidence 😢
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  1878. ​ @wotiluv  she was alone for far too long hindsight is 20 20 She needs to be punished but much should be learnt from this 💔
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  1879. To live with that 🤔I would rather die 😥
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  1880. ​ @jackselle4607 💔
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  1881. It is possible to rip the cord that would explain the blood everywhere that was seen
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  1882. ​ @beautifulwreck7296  many can pass polygraphs
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  1883. Outside the door exactly, no one could see her. She had time and opportunity. If the mother dearest hadn't been there I'm positive that things would be different. Poor baby 💜
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  1884. They will be able to get dash cams for sure
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  1885. That's true
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  1886. ​ @monicascott2354 no doubt the hospital bathrooms will be done differently
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  1887. Me too 👍 she was one big red flag, I have seen a lot in 25 years of healthcare environments , nothing shocks me anymore. One move I would have done was explain to the mother that her daughter is an adult, and asked her to leave so tests/ conversations could be done in private. Without the mother there she would have fessed up I'm sure. Much can be learnt from this sad, avoidable case 💔 poor baby
    1
  1888.  @charlottes.9495  I've seen a few patients like her but intervention has been achieved. It's just so sad
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  1889. I agree it's wrong how they are reporting this, the trial will show what they really have.
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  1890. Ikr 🙄
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  1891.  @reneet5858  I may have used the incorrect language and I stand corrected, but I'm certainly not twisted, thank you. There is such a term as a dark empath, I read some research regarding how narcissists can push an empath to do awful things so in turn causes that person to become a criminal. It's happened and I'm unsure of a statistic. Kind regards.
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  1892. To be fair those first interviews chances are she was medicated.
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  1893. The window of time for the murders was slim compared to the window of time before LE were alerted. So much could have been done in the larger window. More were involved imo.
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  1894. Sure is
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  1895. Definitely medicated
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  1896. Psychopath for sure
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  1897. ​ @amegasmith they removed the IV because SHE wanted to go to the bathroom, she went alone giving her an opportunity. There is plenty of blame to go around. It's very sad 😢
    1
  1898. ​ @HYPNOTOAD291  I'm hoping it was a minimal dose
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  1899. There were red flags prior to her going to the bathroom, I've worked in a care environment and when patients are alone things can go wrong quickly. Falling, self harm etc.
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  1900. I know but in this case she may never have spoken to anyone. I'm letting her off 💔
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  1901. ​ @peggygenoway so true, there is no rehearsal. There were obvious red flags over this one.
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  1902. She was de escalating the situation
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  1903. Makes sense
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  1904. "Kinda' you think?
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  1905. ​ @AndroidSlime  I suppose if you have never lost a person you love to murder you can say that.
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  1906. ​ @AndroidSlime you are hilarious
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  1907. A stranger in the street would know
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  1908. AM isn't capable, an empty being has no soul.
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  1909. Good question
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  1910. Exactly my thoughts
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  1911. They all seemed to be in shock if she had been accompanied to the bathroom things could have been different. So very tragic
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  1912. People often think of DNA as being infallible – and it truly can conclusively prove the innocence of the wrongfully convicted. But we have to be very careful about using the same type of evidence to prove a person’s guilt. Touch DNA is pseudoscience. The defense has a right to ask for every piece of evidence regarding the DNA chain of documentation. A fair trial is needed not a trial by the public/ media.
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  1913. Karma is ready for him
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  1914. She will walk
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  1915. I agree, no good can come of others judgments.
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  1916. They confirmed pregnancy but she denied it, and would not consent to physical exams. She was on IV pain relief then wanted to use b/ room she went solo. The rest is sad history. She needs a reality check and therapy. So does the mother.
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  1917. Yes, absolutely
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  1918. Well said, she was obviously desperate, naive, and her mental health is off.
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  1919. Well said!!! 👍
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  1920. Agree
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  1921. I have to agree, I have one friend that I worked with.
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  1922. Absolutely
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  1923. Whoever did probably tried the other doors but they were locked. The window of time was slim. The eye witness will be vital, I think he saw her and didn't have time to bash down doors. He got out of there. I think more were involved.
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  1924. Ted Bundy was charming too
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  1925. ​ @KldraMrkdo agree with you.
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  1926. I saw that too
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  1927. She doesn't sound insane here 🤯
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  1928. Think it was his father's belt
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  1929.  @shefboyarde  I know
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  1930. Actually they do
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  1931. ​ @anna27446 there was also a thud noise picked up
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  1932. Question: Why are the defense allowed to talk so much? Wth 🤔
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  1933. ​ @susanwest4137 it was their duty of care to know. I've worked in healthcare environments and a patient such as her needs observation and monitoring. The family dynamics were red flags in itself. The staff took their eyes off the ball. I can say that as I've had it happen to me.
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  1934.  @susanwest4137  if staff had escorted her to the bathroom would this have happened? No. She had the opportunity and time. She needs punishment for sure, but the hospital had a duty of care.
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  1935. P.s. I've worked in healthcare and have seen many patients do many things to themselves and others? Have you ever been a nurse or a carer, doctor?
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  1936. The duty of care laws are taken seriously believe me the hospital staff are good people. But any decent lawyer will say what I'm saying. Feelings don't matter. Kind regards .
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  1937.  @susanwest4137  I've seen many cases where staff have been condemned unfairly. The point is if it can be proven that the patient was neglected then the defense has a case.
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  1938.  @susanwest4137  it's in the hands of the powers that be.
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  1939. I think so too
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  1940. The defense wants all the chain of DNA documentation. If there were others found then there should be proof of this.
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  1941. I agree, she cared more about her mother's judgement than the baby.
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  1942. ​ @Actuallyrider feel the same
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  1943.  @Oceans11.11  you are right
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  1944. Prison would give her a reality check that is way overdue.
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  1945. It's such a strange case, poor woman. Maybe drugs/ mental health?
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  1946. I do she made the situation worse
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  1947. ​ @waywardangel6356 I agree, logic and sense appears to have left the building 😞
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  1948.  @colleenpeck6347  it's unbelievable that she could go away and stay away enjoying herself knowing her child was alone.
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  1949. That is one question the defense will ask, her mother and whichever staff only asked if she was ok they could not see her. The evidence will be shown I suppose.
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  1950. And....
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  1951. Great perspective
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  1952. Sadly I agree, just hope the woman faces some punishment.
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  1953. Her mental state should be questioned
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  1954. 👏
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  1955. They will no doubt, if the mother was not at the hospital I think it would have been much different.
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  1956. Well said 👏
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  1957. Well said
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  1958. Yes, chances are he was thinner
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  1959. Unless he has to
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  1960. If only 🥹
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  1961. Court jester is more fitting
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  1962. ​ @derpestarzt  a victim's bf had an altercation with him, told LE , description, vehicle type. Nothing happened. Literally the best eye witness ever
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  1963.  @derpestarzt  haven't heard anything
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  1964. ​ @ShayJaxson-m2z yes, Skylar Richardson didn't spend a day in prison did she?
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  1965.  @ShayJaxson-m2z  wow, no punishment. 😢
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  1966. ​ @hayleyhellbound9513 spot on
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  1967. ​ @janicescott7338 some would say that it was lucky for them it couldn't be confirmed.
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  1968. I know, if my dog was in a closed bedroom the barking would go on and on.
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  1969. Witnesses I wonder 🤔
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  1970. Very likely, they were both in the kitchen, parents were upstairs.
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  1971. I was looking for this comment lol
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  1972. ​ @MissX905 agreed
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  1973. ​ @lezbnlvr2051 my memory is the same
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  1974. ​ @daisymaisy4877 or BR prepared it?
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  1975.  @NuraCaicedo-xh2ok  research I found said a neighbour heard scream and lights were in the home. Thought they were all asleep?
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  1976.  @indayloveschocolate  perfect storm is right
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