Comments by "Earth " (@earth0128) on "Autopsy Report Released for Newborn Found in Hospital Trash" video.

  1. Agreed, she was in the best place to have a baby. Then why did this happen? In my experience she had time and opportunity if her mother or a staff member had stayed with her we wouldn't be any the wiser. Plenty of blame to go around, she should face consequences but her mental health is off. The mother appears bat sh*t crazy in my opinion. But not one person called her out, the boyfriend, the school, family members on both sides. She presented at the hospital and she raised red flags in just her demeanour alone. Hindsight is not helpful as what is done is done.
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  2. ​ @Lil2shoes222 she refused all physical exams that in itself is a huge red flag
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  3. And yet ... She obviously feared her mother more than loving her own child. Disturbing but true.
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  4. Exactly she was obviously pregnant.
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  5. It was objectified to her Zero bonding
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  6. She is not a monster Look at the family then work outwards Too many to mention failed that baby 💔
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  7. ​ @bridget5180  could it be argued that it was medical staff's duty of care to observe/ monitor a patient? Being unhooked from a IV so she could go to a bathroom for 19 minutes in a locked bathroom is ill judged? Not one person had a visual on her. Any defense attorney worth their weight will blame others that's their job. Many failed that poor baby. She needs a reality check and punishment but many can learn from this. Not one person called her out on the OBVIOUS pregnancy.
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  8. Very sorry 😔
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  9. ​ @Kittywhisperer333 👋 I did at 19 only my best friend knew. Fear, denial is Powerful. She needs punishment but also compassion. So many people failed this baby.
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  10. ​ @dpapincak exactly! Family dynamics are plain to see.
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  11.  @london5945  I think I know what you mean 😊
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  12. Ikr, not a laughing matter at all
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  13. ​ @jaysika4417 I totally agree with you, preventative care and intuitive care was lacking . She needs to face consequences but there is plenty of blame to go around
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  14. Nobody including the young woman in question is in reality. In my opinion the young woman, the mother, her family, boyfriend family, school teachers/ friends, hospital staff all had a part to play. Any defense attorney worth their weight will blame others. So sad and avoidable, consequences/ punishment is needed.
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  15. ​ @rosemariemello6675 yes, me too. She had time and opportunity. Observations and monitoring are so important.
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  16. ​ @Connie-E I am too, plenty of blame to go around
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  17. Low levels I'm sure, can't wait for all details. It's important.
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  18. Yeah the mother is a major factor in this, I believe she mentally crippled her. Hence the appalling decision making skills. She needs consequences/ punishment but so does the mother.
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  19.  @DimonGirl  💟✨
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  20. I was under the impression that they had done a pregnancy test and confirmed pregnancy however due to the denials and refusing of physical exams that they were awaiting further test results. She was put on a morphine IV drip but said she needed the toilet so they removed the IV, she then went on her own to the toilet and locked herself in. From the video her mother and staff checked her several times but had zero visuals on her. This gave her time and opportunity to do the dreadful actions. She definitely needs consequences/ punishment but many failed that poor baby in my opinion: Herself Both families School teachers/ friends Any defense lawyer worth their weight will find any loop hole that's their job. Tragic it came to this 💔
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  21. ​ @sylerbo exactly no one was in the bathroom, there were red flags all over it, refusing medical exam, over bearing mother. Plenty of blame to go around. She should face consequences but she is not evil.
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  22.  @Miss.831  I'm pretty sure it was IV but this case is muddied. The sooner they bring it to court the better.
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  23. ​ @stonecrestquilt I've worked in healthcare environments and I've unlocked many doors, intuition was lacking from these staff.
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  24. ​ @tracymarquez6875 I feel exactly the same, she had the time and opportunity. What she did was deplorable but were actions of a terrified woman.
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  25. ​ @MagnoliaBelle369 totally agree, finally found someone with the same opinion.
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  26.  @em9316  I get your points and they are good points. It's hard to believe that not one person confronted the elephant in the room. Sometimes it takes incidents such as this to equip people for the future. I'm sure she will face some criminal charges. Hindsight is always easy to say. Your comment reminds me of that. Thanks.
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  27. Totally, her fear and shame led her to appalling consequences.
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  28. Time will tell, some of the comments are vicious. Trial by public happens when there is far too much info released.
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  29. Doesn't surprise me, animals know ✨ Wonder if they had a dog or cat?
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  30. If the mother hadn't been there I'm positive the outcome would have been different
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  31. Many people missed the reality of the situation. A stranger would realise she was heavily pregnant, back pain on admission. In my opinion the hospital has a problem. Any defense attorney worth their weight will blame the staff. Personally I blame: Her Her Mother School teachers/ friends Boy friend family Were they all in denial?
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  32. I think the lack of observation is a gap for the defense.
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  33. They must have known, a stranger would know. Many people failed that poor baby
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  34. ​ @princekareem yes that's right, she wasn't in reality
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  35. Absolutely 💯
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  36. Neither mother or medical staff had a visual on her as she was on a locked toilet.
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  37. Your right, It speaks volumes
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  38. Yes her digital history will be prevalent
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  39. Totally, it's like they all were in a detached reality.
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  40. She may as well have been in a ditch giving birth. Any decent defense lawyer will find excuses for their clients behaviour. So many people failed that baby.
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  41. There is so much more to how it came to this tragic case, but she needs prison time for a reality check.
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  42.  @cdo8994  yes definitely she needs to receive some therapy 👍
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  43. From the reports available and only in my opinion she was admitted with severe back pain, preliminary tests showed positive pregnancy. However she refused ALL physical exams, she was put on a morphine IV drip but said she needed the toilet so IV was removed. She went solo to the bathroom and locked herself in. There was no visual on her for 19 minutes or there about, the mother and staff asked if she was ok several times but could not see her. Any defense attorney worth their weight will blame others. She should face punishment but many failed that poor baby. The young woman herself, her own mother, the boyfriend, the school teachers, her friends, the hospital. It was avoidable if one person had faced reality.
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  44. I totally agree, many people failed that poor baby
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  45. She refused all physical exams
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  46. Yes I agree with you. There were red flags, she needs to face consequences, but the hospital staff dropped the ball in my opinion. She had time and opportunity whilst unattended. It's a tragic incident. The mother is toxic and contributed to it.
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  47. Well said , many people failed that baby.
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  48. ​ @GaiaCarney I totally agree 💯
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  49. ​ @jaysika4417 I agree with you
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  50. ​ @jaysika4417 agreed
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  51. Any defense attorney worth their weight will blame
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  52. Right, the attorney will find any way to defend. She was unattended for an extended period of time, whilst under the care of the hospital. The young woman needs punishment/ consequences and made to face reality. The people that were around her 9 months prior must have had blinders on. 🙄
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  53.  @rachelrachel3146  that is amazing, I got chills reading your comment ✨
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  54. There must be more to it, trial by the public as usual. 🙄
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  55. Well said, the dynamics in this are so off and led to tragedy. Many lessons should be learnt.
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  56. Family dynamics here were way off
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  57. Denial is powerful. Much can be learnt from this
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  58. Feel the same. In my opinion the young woman herself, the boyfriend, both families, the school teachers/the friends. Were they all in an ignorant trance for 9 months? Boggles the brain this one. 🥹
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  59. Ikr, unprofessional and disrespectful
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  60. Zero bond
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  61. I agree, but in your opinion should she have been escorted to the bathroom? I've worked in healthcare and with the information provided there were red flags all over her.
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  62. Feel the same, staff didn't see that one coming who would? Much can be learnt from this. I question her mental capacity.
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  63. Any defense attorney worth their weight will blame them. I've seen medical professionals fired for less serious events. So avoidable, poor baby was failed by everyone.
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  64.  @catbee1452  she will face punishment, she is an adult. I'm just saying there were many people that contributed to this.
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  65. I agree
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  66. Her actions were horrific, she now has to live with that. Much can be learnt by this tragic case.
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  67. ​ @laurasalo6160  I absolutely 💯 agree
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  68. ​ @GaiaCarney  Agree with you
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  69. ​ @dammar117 I completely agree, stunted mental growth.
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  70. Mother dearest for sure Also on the list of blame should be: Boyfriend Both family members School teachers Friends One big bubble of denial. Many let that baby down. 💔
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  71. Staff did CPR
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  72. Exactly! My thoughts also. I thought IV morphine was in one report but time will tell. Mother dearest definitely put a spanner in the works for staff to get to the truth. The attorney will highlight hospitals failings rightly or wrongly. Very sad, poor baby 😢
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  73. She needs accountability and therapy.
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  74. Mother is a big factor
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  75.  @justanotheranonymousaccoun6365  makes sense 👍
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  76.  @Sarah-ic4yu  👍
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  77. Not morphine then?
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  78. It's shocking she needs consequences, I can't help thinking that if her mother hadn't been there things would have been different.
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  79. Refused all physical exams
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  80.  @110311DONTWANTCHANNE  it's certainly given the defense attorney something there. Time will tell I suppose.
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  81. The mother clearly had cognitive dissonance regarding her daughter. A stranger would know she was pregnant and clearly in denial.
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  82. Exactly, so desperate. Her actions were deplorable but any defense attorney worth their weight will find a gap.
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  83. One of the best comments I've seen ✨ It's's a tragic case but as you say it's not the first or the last time it will happen. This young woman is not evil as some have stated, she was cornered, her mother's oppressive nature only exasperated her mind set in my opinion. I think if the mother had not been at the hospital things could have been very different. It will be in the hands of a jury one day.
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  84. Desperate run in my opinion
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  85.  @AprilKristel  ikr 🙄
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  86. This happened in a hospital... Exactly! She may as well have stayed at home and discarded the poor baby. The staff dropped the ball in my opinion, I've worked in many healthcare environments and preventative care is part of everyday staff roles. To remove an IV from a patient who then goes solo to a toilet without observation is risky. If the mother/ medical staff had insisted on observing her she would not have had time/ opportunity. There is plenty of blame around: Herself Both families School teachers/ friends Hospital All failed the baby 💔 Any defense attorney worth their weight will be able to find excuses. Time will tell.
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  87. I recall in one report that it was her brother who actually took her to the ER for severe back pain, so the mother must have arrived after. In my opinion if the mother was not present she would have had the baby and given it up for adoption. But... At that stage she was cornered, I'm not excusing her actions they were appalling. These family dynamics are way off and the mother appears bat shi* crazy. I'm sure the whole truth will come to light.
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  88. ​ @Miss.831 wasn't she put on a morphine IV ?
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  89. 🙏🙏🙏
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  90. Obvious yes, her demeanour/ language spoke volumes.
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  91. much truth in your comment,
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  92. Agreed, too many to mention failed that poor baby
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  93. The defense will use that for sure, plus she was unattended for a lengthy amount of time whilst under care of staff. She must face her actions but many let that baby down.
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  94. From my take watching and listening to available sources and this is only imo, a preliminary pregnancy test was positive but she denied it repeatedly, also refused all physical exams. So staff were pending further tests. They put her on an IV morphine drip but she said she needed the toilet so they removed the IV. She then went to the toilet SOLO. Her mother and staff asked her several times if she was ok but no one had a visual check on her. This gave her time and opportunity. Any defense attorney will find any way to defend their client, it's their job. Too many to mention let the poor soul down. Lessons to be learnt I hope 🙏
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  95. There were red flags however the young woman should have been spoken to alone. Mother dearest should have been told to leave pending tests.
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  96. ​ @MagnoliaBelle369 I totally agree, this opinion is very much in the minority though.
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  97. ​ @dawnatkinson7704 a member of staff should have been with her. Monitoring is vital
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  98. ​ @SavvyMuhon 19 minutes
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  99. ​ @tracymarquez6875 exactly
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  100. ​ @natashaburrell7615 I think so too, blame on many parts.
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  101. ​ @analakic7789 let me ask, if one staff member had escorted her to the bathroom would this have happened? She was there for 19 mins alone. Yes mother and staff asked if she was ok but there was zero observation on her. The fact they gave her morphine may complicate things. Her actions were awful and should face consequences. There is plenty of blame to go around. herself, family, school, friends, boyfriend and family.
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  102. ​ @dawnatkinson7704 she should have been assisted / monitored.
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  103. ​ @andreaperini3982 there is a sense in what you are saying, if she had been escorted to the bathroom she would not have been able to act out what she did.
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  104. ​ @griseldadominguez8734 yet they still gave pain relief, and ons and monitoring were minimal. There were red flags all over her let alone being obviously pregnant to even a stranger.
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  105. ​ @stonecrestquilt totally agree in my opinion the hospital staff took their eyes off the ball. The family dynamics were off, red flags all over it from the start.
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  106. ​@tangodown2x2x14many people failed that baby
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  107. ​ @griseldadominguez8734 big red flag
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  108. ​ @Ilikerainydayz  Have you ever worked in a hospital/ ER dept/ care home facility? have you any experience in the medical care field? I have for 15 years, and preventative care is standard practice. She was obviously pregnant, her demeanour was suspicious, refusing physical exams, the family dynamics were odd/ off The mother should have been asked to leave whilst she underwent tests etc. There were red flags all over this patient from the get go Intuition and common sense is very much needed. As for allowing her to go to the toilet alone is madness. I've opened many locked doors far quicker than in this situation to prevent incidents of self harm, falling, collapsing. In medical environments things can go wrong quickly, staff are trained to see red flags. She obviously should be punished for her actions but there is plenty of blame to go around. In my opinion her family, the boyfriends family, school teachers/ friends, hospital staff all contributed in this tragic case. Much can be learnt. Any defense attorney worth their weight will blame others we all know that. Time will tell, I've seen many medical professionals get disciplinaries, investigated, and dismissed for much less serious a case than this. Kind regards
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  109. ​ @em9316  well if the staff are faultless then she may as well have had the baby in a ditch. She should have been accompanied to the toilet, considering IV had been in place and was removed so she could go to the toilet alone... only gave her the time and opportunity. Her actions were horrific and deserve a punishment but many people failed that poor baby. Her family and the bf's family School teachers/ friends Plenty of blame to share around.
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  110. ​ @JaimeMesChiens  can I ask you, the fact she refused all physical exams and would not undress is that a sign of denial? Red flags? From what I gather she was put on a IV drip which was removed for her to go to the bathroom solo. Is that normal? I worked in a hospital and I always escorted patients with pending diagnosis and particularly if in pain to the bathroom. Preventative measures are so important I can't help but think any defense attorney worth their weight will find blame where possible. She needs to be punished but many people failed that baby.
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  111. Yes, I thought that
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  112. Time will tell but I have to agree I think hospital staff took their eyes off the ball. Her denials, demeanour spoke volumes. I feel for the staff of the hospital but a decent defense attorney will rip them a new one. Personally I blame a list of people. Poor baby 💔
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  113. Same here 🥹
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  114. Me too, 15 years in healthcare. The pain relief was minimal however the monitoring of her was also minimal.
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  115. Really? I don't think so. Family dynamics spoke volumes to me, how desperate do you have to be to do what she did. She needs punishment but much can be learned from this. Many people failed that poor baby
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  116. Red flags in itself
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  117. Prolonged denial caused her to objectify her baby, she had no emotional bond. Reality came knocking and she did the ultimate sin. Punishment is needed but lessons should be learnt.
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  118. From the reports thus far it appears she refused all physical exams, was put on a morphine drip, preliminary pregnancy test confirmed pregnancy the staff were awaiting further tests, she wanted to use the toilet, staff removed IV and she went un escorted to the toilet. From the video the mother and staff asked if she was ok several times however they DID NOT have a visual on her. Hence she had time and opportunity to do the horrific act. She needs to face consequences and get in reality. Many people let that poor baby down prior to the hospital, herself, both families, school teachers/ friends. So avoidable but hopefully lessons can be learnt. 🙏
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  119. I do agree with you, entitlement is a factor.
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  120. I think she refused a physical exam etc
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  121. Good point, her mother filled her with such fear. No excuse but explains her secrecy, denials, shame. So avoidable 💔
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  122. So many failed this poor soul.
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  123. Agree with you about the hospital staff, but many people failed that poor baby.
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  124. Many don't
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  125. Ikr, none of them know what it is like they are just running their gobs.
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  126. ​ @lonewolfgirl3976 absolutely
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  127. The amount of people that knew/ suspected a pregnancy astounds me
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  128. Happens every single day
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  129. It appears there was a collected bubble of denial. Mind boggling
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  130. None of them have worked in a hospital. It's the most stressful job I ever had.
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  131. She refused all physical exams
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  132. Staff should have insisted on talking to her alone with the right words spoken to her she would have crumbled. She must have been so desperate. Her actions deserve punishment but many people failed that poor baby.
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  133. Suffocation
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  134.  @lisasternenkind6467  yes could be, it's hard to know for sure
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  135. Good point
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  136. I recall from one report that it was her brother that took her to the ER for severe back pain. Mother dearest turned up, I'm thinking it wouldn't have happened if she had been alone and able to tell staff, deliver and then give the baby up for adoption. By the mother being there it cornered her, literally in the bathroom. The fear of her mother was a force stronger than anything. Family dynamics are way off. No excuses but could explain her actions.
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  137. Oh yes
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  138. It is possible to rip the cord that would explain the blood everywhere that was seen
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  139. Me too 👍 she was one big red flag, I have seen a lot in 25 years of healthcare environments , nothing shocks me anymore. One move I would have done was explain to the mother that her daughter is an adult, and asked her to leave so tests/ conversations could be done in private. Without the mother there she would have fessed up I'm sure. Much can be learnt from this sad, avoidable case 💔 poor baby
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  140.  @charlottes.9495  I've seen a few patients like her but intervention has been achieved. It's just so sad
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  141. Ikr 🙄
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  142. Sure is
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  143. ​ @peggygenoway so true, there is no rehearsal. There were obvious red flags over this one.
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  144. She was de escalating the situation
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  145. A stranger in the street would know
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  146. Well said, she was obviously desperate, naive, and her mental health is off.
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  147. Actually they do
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  148. I agree, she cared more about her mother's judgement than the baby.
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  149. Prison would give her a reality check that is way overdue.
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  150. They will no doubt, if the mother was not at the hospital I think it would have been much different.
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  151. If only 🥹
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