Comments by "Earth " (@earth0128) on "New Mexico Teen Mother Charged in Newborn's Death" video.

  1. Mother's arrogance and lack of empathy is hard to watch. My thinking is that something is wrong in the family, for her not to tell a single person of the pregnancy. The secrecy is the issue in my opinion, her actions are appalling and she needs punishment. But there are many people that could/ should have done more.
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  2. I'm not so sure, some staff knew she was pregnant, pain relief was administered. Any legal team could defend her actions. Doesn't make it right but definitely plenty of responsibility to go around. Very sad and avoidable.
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  3. ​ @Scottishgirl754 the staff could have told the mother to leave and spoke to her alone. She is 19, legally responsible unless private otherwise. I've worked in a similar environment and things go wrong quick and many medical staff have to live with regret. Bad decision making can result in preventable outcomes. There are many to blame in this situation. She was obviously pregnant, it should never have got to this.
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  4. I think they could have tried resuscitation at least.
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  5. ​ @la-km_3828 absolutely, I've worked in healthcare and she SHOULD have been escorted
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  6. ​ @mariasuarez6269  many failed that poor baby Mother dearest is a major factor Both families School teachers/ friends
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  7. ​​ @mmontes15 f she had been observed/ monitored visually things could have been very different, we wouldn't have been any wiser. Just another teenager and an unwanted baby Plenty of blame to go around
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  8. I agree with you
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  9. I think the same, plenty of blame to go around.
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  10. ​ @robbymonaco3738  I agree, I've worked in the healthcare environment and this young woman had red flags everywhere. Obviously pregnant and in denial. Mother should have been asked to leave the room. Escorted to a bathroom for her own safety, I've unlocked doors to save patients from various situations. There is enough blame to go around, prevention is everything and in my opinion this was a preventable incident.
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  11. She should have been escorted by staff she had the opportunity and time. It's awful what she did. But clearly the dynamics of the family were off the hospital staff had a duty of care and they failed in my opinion.
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  12. Absolutely, she seems terrified of her mother. 19 going on 10 years
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  13. ​ @sunitamosesesq I absolutely agree with you 💯
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  14. Many missed opportunities I feel, red flags were all over her prior to going to the bathroom. It's so sad 😢
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  15. Me too plenty of blame to go around. Legally she is responsible and the hospital in the eyes of law is negligent. They had a duty of care.
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  16. I agree
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  17. Defense will work with everything they got I agree with you
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  18. Says a lot doesn't it
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  19. Yes! Finally a voice of reason. I 1000 % agree with you. ✨
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  20.  @susanwest4137  she deserves punishment for sure, lessons can be learnt from this.
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  21. ​ @maneckineckbeard1749 exactly! She should have been monitored there were red flags all over
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  22. ​ @theleastofthese5369 I agree, it was preventable if she had been monitored/ escorted
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  23. ​ @robbymonaco3738  💯 agree. If she had been escorted and visibly monitored then she would not have had the time/ opportunity to do what she did, which I find deplorable btw. In healthcare prevention is everything. There is plenty of blame to go around. There was a reason she couldn't/ wouldn't tell her mother, that in itself is telling. If she is mentally competent then she should face criminal charges. Compassion goes a long way in preventing future incidents like this.
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  24. ​ @alisha8586 I've worked in one and all you do is constantly monitor patients especially those that cause the red flags as much as this one. The mother should have been told to leave so they could speak to her alone.
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  25. There should be consequences
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  26.  @tipper6733  we are all entitled to a opinion. Kind regards 👍
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  27.  @DawnPatrol21  I think my comment clearly says that she is legally responsible, however the defense will find anything they can. It's very sad all round.
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  28.  @tipper6733  and it was the staffs duty of care to prevent actions such as this. What she did to her baby is deplorable but the hospital was negligent in monitoring her. If she refused treatment they should have spoken to her alone. The mother was a driving force in the truth being covered. That is why staff are trained to detect family dynamics in order to prevent such incidents.
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  29.  @tipper6733  you don't know that, none of us do. What she did was criminal and she needs punishment but the minute you are in a hospital the staff have a duty of care which in turn is observations and monitoring. Would this have happened if she had been escorted to the bathroom? No.
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  30. Any attorney will rip the hospital and staff a new one. Avoidable in my opinion
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  31. Agree
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  32. I get what you are saying, in my view many people could have prevented this. There is obviously something very wrong with this case.
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  33. ​ @gwynjustice2575 staff are trained for these situations, the family dynamics are telling. I've worked in healthcare environments and this was screaming red flags.
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  34. Can happen, add into that fear, denial.
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  35. Mother sure is arrogant, there is something very wrong in this case. She may be 19 but actions say different mental age. Legally responsible, many people could have prevented this.
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  36. The hospital should not have allowed her to be alone for any length of time. Red flags all over it in my opinion. The mother should have been escorted out of the cubicle.
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  37. I've never had children, but in my opinion she obviously looked pregnant. She refused all physical exams, doctors confirmed pregnancy but she repeatedly denied it. The Dr was waiting for further test results, she was put in IV pain relief but asked to use the bathroom, so IV must have been removed she then went solo and locked herself in for approx 19 mins, the rest is history. Women that I've seen post pregnancy still very much have a bump but everyone is different. Hope this helps 👍
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  38. The lawyer will find any way to defend their client. In my opinion the hospital has a duty of care once a patient is admitted. Observations are vital, she was alone too long. Her actions were horrendous but staff are trained to detect denial and family dynamics. There were red flags all over this patient. It's just so sad as it was preventable.
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  39.  @adriannahuezo6112  feel the same
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  40. Precisely, she presented many red flags.
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  41. The family are off to say the least.
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  42. Great points, it's possible she has cognitive issues.
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  43. I have to agree, she had the time and opportunity. It's just so sad 😢
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  44. What you say is true, it's so tragic but was avoidable if staff had stayed with the patient. She had time and opportunity alone.
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  45. Very good point
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  46. Yes, I agree something is very wrong. Not one person in her life faced reality. Well reality is scary but now she is learning fast . I still question her mental age.
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  47. Definitely
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  48. The baby had air in the lungs, her actions were appalling and consequences are needed. There is so much wrong in her world to have denied, hurt her own child. Start with the family and mother.
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  49. You can still bleed during pregnancies
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  50. Absolutely I agree, I was a carer for over 20 years, I've opened many locked doors quicker than 19 ( approx) minutes. Feel for the staff but the attorney will go after them for negligence.
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  51. Exactly 💯
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  52.  @nicoledoran7700  exactly, observations are so important
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  53. My thoughts too
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  54. I've worked in similar environments and things can go wrong quickly. She should have been escorted to the bathroom for her own safety. She sadly had the freedom and time. There are problems in that family home.
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  55. Hindsight is clear but I do agree she should have been escorted, the opportunity was there and her acts are horrendous. I do feel empathy for her though.
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  56. Fact, family dynamics were off.
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  57. Any defense lawyer will say negligence in a situation like this, I really feel for the staff but they took their eyes off the ball.
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  58. That's right, her behaviour/ language was obviously denial.
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  59. Agree with you The defense are doing their job whatever anyone feels. Only a desperate, in denial person does this action. Consequences are needed but also understanding as to how it can be prevented.
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  60. I totally agree, the staff should have prevented this. Hindsight is clear but staff have training to detect denial and family dynamics. What she did was awful, but she had time and more importantly an opportunity. She should never have been alone, observations are vital.
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  61. It certainly appears there are many problems in that home.
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  62. They have a duty to prevent harm to the patient, she was given freedom and time. If she had been closely monitored she would not have been able to conceal the baby. What she did was horrendous but prevention is everything in a healthcare environment.
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  63. ​ @susanwest4137 that in itself is a red flag indicator. Have you worked as a nurse or carer?
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  64.  @susanwest4137  if the timeline is correct ( 19minutes) alone in a bath room she may as well been alone in a public toilet. Staff were aware enough to call the red flags. Hindsight is clear however staff are trained for deception and denial. She needs to face punishment but legally they failed in duty of care.
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  65.  @susanwest4137  like I said she needs to face criminal punishment but any lawyer will find fault with other parties involved. The investigation will show all aspects. Kind regards.
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  66. Desperate people will do anything. It's possible she pulled it/ ripped it.
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  67. Adrenaline, shock, desperation. Her actions were appalling
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  68. I think the same Many regrets and faults to go around.
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  69. ​ @lauramyers4547 well said! ✨ I could not have said it better myself.
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  70. ​ @analili0 absolutely 💯
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  71. ​ @elviragonzalez428 then why didn't she ask for help?
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  72. ​ @kellyarnette4897 exactly! She should have been escorted and monitored
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  73. ​ @pamvuono8858 I agree, they did not handle it as well as they could.
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  74. ​ @76482 they do have a duty of care once she steps into the hospital, she should never have been allowed to go to the bathroom alone. Visual monitoring is part of the responsibility of staff. She had time and opportunity that she wouldn't have had if she had been accompanied. Her actions are deplorable and she should face some punishment. But her mental health should be considered.
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  75. ​ @alisha8586 there were red flags all over it, she was obviously pregnant. She should never have been alone, if she had been closely monitored she would not have had the time or opportunity. She was clearly terrified/ in denial.
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  76. ​ @kimward5746 mental capacity has to be considered
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  77. ​ @cyndib3587 she was obviously pregnant
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  78. ​ @Kittymay98 no they didn't, but she was a patient under their care, she was left unattended. This is why a patient that is presenting an unknown diagnosis should not be alone. She had time and the opportunity to do what she did. I think she should face a criminal charge but prevention care was not done in this case. The hospital was negligent.
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  79. ​ @volatile7117 that's why staff have training , there were red flags all over it.
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  80.  @76482  I've worked in hospital/ care facilities and if a patient has as many red flags as she did close visual monitoring/ observations is a duty of care.
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  81.  @mayrareyes8135  that's just it, the hospital staff are responsible they have a duty of care.
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  82.  @alisha8586  the investigation will show all aspects, as you say it's all opinions. She deserves punishment and consequences. The one good thing to come out of this is lessons learnt. Kind regards.
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  83.  @alisha8586  she should face criminal punishment but any lawyer will bring up duty of care. That's their job. Her actions were deplorable. Kind regards.
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  84.  @alisha8586  I agree she needs punishment, hopefully lessons will be learnt. Even in a hospital things can happen, she may as well have been at home. Her actions were deplorable.
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  85.  @alisha8586  yes she should have done hence what I say if they had escorted her they would have been there. The system will decide, she deserves punishment for sure.
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  86. The mother was the last person she needed around.
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  87. Yet, she still has the time and opportunity to deliver a baby and put it in a trash can. Asking someone if they are ok, and seeing someone is completely different scenarios. Hence she was able to hide her actions. Red flags all over it from the very beginning. Mother and many others are to blame as well as her. Very sad. 😢
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  88. 19 going on 10 years old
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  89. Some reports say they gave CPR
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  90. ​ @TheLeijosa exactly 💯
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  91. ​ @lindah7656 yes me too
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  92. A stranger would have known she was pregnant, I've worked in medical environments and things go wrong quickly. Prevention is everything. There is much blame to go around.
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  93. They didn't try resuscitation, in my opinion they hold some accountability but many are to blame for this. Not one person made her accountable before delivery. Denial across a vast scale.
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  94.  @Scottishgirl754  hence why I say there is blame on many levels, the minute she was admitted to hospital the staff had a duty of care. Prevention is everything. She had time and opportunity whilst alone. Monitoring/ observations are crucial. What she did was criminal but her mental health/ capacity is another issue. It's very sad.
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  95.  @honeybadgerknockoutbadgers9642  yes totally, I've seen medical staff get the blame so many times however she was of legal age whilst in their care. I've opened so many doors to ensure a visual. It's a complex situation and I feel for the staff concerned. Time will tell.
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  96. They removed IV so she could go to the bathroom.
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  97. ​@@bluebellflora2510well said, they were negligent as well as the mother. Won't be surprised if she has cognitive issues, 19 going on 10
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  98. Well said, there was obviously denial and not one person stood up and sorted it before it got to the sad outcome. If only she had someone to talk to, in my opinion the mother is overbearing to her own destruction. I'm thinking the same as you.
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  99.  @bleepbloopbleep  A teachers duty of care is often referred to as " in loco parentis"
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  100.  @error404webpagenotfound  think the same, and she needs legal punishment for her actions. The hospital was negligent in their duty of care. I feel for the staff I really do.
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  101.  @bleepbloopbleep  I'm sure she will have punishment
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  102. It appears that something delayed her, to be in so much denial came to such a tragic conclusion.
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  103. Exactly, I wish she could have heard those words. Prevention is everything, there are many to blame. She might be 19 years old but is younger mentally. No excuses but things could have been different if someone like you spoke to her. 💟
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  104. I think she should face some prosecution for the death of her baby. However they removed the IV so she could go to the bathroom, in my opinion she should have been escorted. I've worked in a care environment and things go wrong quickly. there were red flags all over this patient. At 19 years she should have been able to speak without her mother's presence. I think her cognitive function could be questioned. It's just so sad.
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  105. They did in my opinion too
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  106. It's not clear is it?
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  107. ​ @aleksandra_c her actions are indeed appalling, we all know defense will find every loop hole possible.
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  108. Many intertextualities, time will tell. Race should be no factor.
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  109. So not one person in her life thought she was pregnant? It's was obvious to most strangers The school, friends, boyfriend, all family members knew nothing? She was obviously pregnant. Her actions were deliberate and appalling. Hospital staff should have asked the mother to leave. She is legally responsible unless proven otherwise. Just one person could have prevented this. So sad 😢
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  110. I believe her brother was the one who originally took her to the hospital for back pain, she was in denial possibly and the fear of exposure led her to act. Very sad
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  111. I think you are right, there is so much wrong in that family. She was obviously pregnant to anyone with sight. How did it get to this? 😢
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  112. Many intertextualities with that case.
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  113. I saw red flags all over her as a patient I think they dropped the ball. Her actions were deplorable however there is plenty of blame to go around
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  114. Then how did this happen?
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  115.  @terry_eLLe  very avoidable if only one person around her told her to face reality she obviously is lacking something to do what she did.
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  116. Anyone in her life would have known she was pregnant, denials only get so far.
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  117. She was on an IV drip but wanted to go to the bathroom so the IV was removed. She was alone and had time and the opportunity to do what she did. She does need punishment but many lessons should be learnt.
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  118. If timelines are accurate it would not have hurt to try resuscitation.
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  119. Some reporting says staff did CPR
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  120. ​ @susanwest4137 no they did not. But they allowed her to be in the bathroom alone for an extended period of time. Duty of care was void in this case.
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  121. I agree, she needed close monitoring.
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  122. ​ @susanwest4137  then who should have known? She and family were either in denial or crazy. She was in a hospital, they are trained to know.
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  123. The hospital staff took their eyes off the ball in my opinion.
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  124. There was much wrong in that relationship to do what she did. She and the mother need to face the consequences legally but it's important to understand her actions.
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  125. Agree, she should have been observed close and any bathroom visit should have been escorted. She had time/ opportunity to do a deplorable thing. Prevention/ duty of care was on staff.
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  126. That's true
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  127. ​ @amegasmith they removed the IV because SHE wanted to go to the bathroom, she went alone giving her an opportunity. There is plenty of blame to go around. It's very sad 😢
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  128. There were red flags prior to her going to the bathroom, I've worked in a care environment and when patients are alone things can go wrong quickly. Falling, self harm etc.
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  129. Good question
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  130. Exactly my thoughts
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  131. They all seemed to be in shock if she had been accompanied to the bathroom things could have been different. So very tragic
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  132. I agree, no good can come of others judgments.
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  133. Absolutely
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  134. ​ @KldraMrkdo agree with you.
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  135. ​ @susanwest4137 it was their duty of care to know. I've worked in healthcare environments and a patient such as her needs observation and monitoring. The family dynamics were red flags in itself. The staff took their eyes off the ball. I can say that as I've had it happen to me.
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  136.  @susanwest4137  if staff had escorted her to the bathroom would this have happened? No. She had the opportunity and time. She needs punishment for sure, but the hospital had a duty of care.
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  137. P.s. I've worked in healthcare and have seen many patients do many things to themselves and others? Have you ever been a nurse or a carer, doctor?
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  138. The duty of care laws are taken seriously believe me the hospital staff are good people. But any decent lawyer will say what I'm saying. Feelings don't matter. Kind regards .
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  139.  @susanwest4137  I've seen many cases where staff have been condemned unfairly. The point is if it can be proven that the patient was neglected then the defense has a case.
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  140.  @susanwest4137  it's in the hands of the powers that be.
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  141. Her mental state should be questioned
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