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@Kaatu-barada-niktoguys, it's a freaking helicopter in a war zone. Nothing is impervious. What are you expecting? It's called battle loss. Happens in every war.
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@dwightwilson9629 didn't know that but I wouldn't doubt it.
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And how many of those things got shot down so far in the Ukraine
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@paulroberts7429 in it's entirety or the amount sticking out of your teeth ?
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Well I was in flight school if you were lucky it would take you approximately 9 to 12 months to get through the flight program, depending upon the helicopter your chosen to fly and the weather. Learning to fly a helicopter is a lot harder than learning how to fly a fixed wing.
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@Kaatu-barada-niktoyou are amazed at drones tracking down and slamming into tanks and armored personnel carriers moving at approximately 30 miles an hour down a bumpy road. Apaches go a tad bit faster than 30 miles an hour so good luck with that drone attack slick. You'll be out of signal range before you know it.
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It would never use Sidewinders as the Air Force and navy controls the airspace. What the hell are they going to shoot down? No enemy fighter can get within 200 miles of the combat zone. They're only proving that yes we can mount a Sidewinder on their. They can also mount a tuna sandwich on the tail boom, it's not like they're actually going to eat the damn thing.
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I'm a retired Cobra pilot, the dod usually does come up with some decent plans but again, the budget is always something they have to work through. I lost out on an Apache transition centuries ago but it was the A model so I pretty much dodged a bullet. Got a friend who does fly the longbow has a maintenance test pilot in Rucker or whatever the hell they call it today. He has nothing but praise for the machine.
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@sumdamwog3133 how many EX helicopter pilot which means I'm flying something that shouldn't be able to fly but it does. Go figure. We have a philosophy, if it ain't good on the ground it ain't going to be any better in the air. We have at any given time over 1,000 aircraft in the sky. I'm not pointing that Boeing is exceptional I'm just pointing that it's the house that's on fire that you seem to notice. Anything can go wrong at any time, that's why we have insurance, that's why they make sirens. My point is it's very very easy to point to Boeing as a measure of incompetence but with the sheer number of aircraft in the skies it's a matter of time before something falls out of it. Has Boeing made some mistakes, yeah they have. And if they're bright they will fix those problems but I have no fear of getting on board a aircraft built by boeing. I've done it in the past I'll do it in the future. Again, it's the house on fire that people tend to notice, but I guarantee you 10 dozen donuts that you'll still go into a house.
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Except those don't exist except on tv.
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You probably haven't been paying attention. One drone, one explosion. One apache, dozens of explosions. Any questions?
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@Justin-dy2ib so did the Wright flyer
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@Justin-dy2ib just to let you know I was Airborne infantry for almost 10 full years and then went to flight school. That's my photograph that you see flying a huey in flight school. After that I wanted to cobras and flew those for almost 10 years. I went to the Apache transition, and I got to tell you it's one of the safest aircraft we had in the inventory. We take aircraft incidents extremely seriously. I'm not sure where you're getting this whole idea about the aircraft disintegrating and flight but that just doesn't happen. I think that you should probably find reference material someplace else. Additionally, the United States Army has more aircraft than the Air Force Navy and Marine Corps combined. Do we have incidences that occur, of course we do. It's just a factor of pure numbers but what you guys are laying here are just ridiculous. As far as the attack series, anytime we had an aircraft with major upgrades we change the designation. I went from flying the AH-1S through the AH-1F model Cobra all the way to the ECAS model in Korea. They look the same but they sure as hell ain't the same machine. Therefore they change the designator for that aircraft. This from a retired attack helicopter pilot. I realize that you guys are only listening to stuff you see online but there's a lot of bad information out there. Boeing has had a couple of spectacular incidents so now everything that they built is garbage? What in the world! Boeing presently has hundreds of thousands of aircraft in the skies and they don't fall out of the sky every minute of the day. They had a couple of incidences, that doesn't mean the company only puts out crap. The Apache is one of the toughest aircraft I have ever seen up close and actually sat in. I hate to say it but it out did my aircraft by a mile. It's tough to shoot down, not impossible but it is absolutely survivable. It's comparable to the Russian tanks as opposed to the Western tanks. They just don't blow up when you look at them the wrong way. So, in closing you guys are listening to some horrible information and just kind of spreading it around.
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@Justin-dy2ib enlisted in May 1977 retired April 1997. As mentioned Airborne infantry in Vicenza Italy and the 82nd Airborne with a short stint in the 40th ID National Guard in Inglewood california. I went to flight school in 86 they put me in huey's, demanded cobras finally got cobras had to stay in Fort Rucker for another 6 weeks. Station in Hawaii South Korea Fort Hood texas, and Fort Polk louisiana. That place is a piece of s***. I retired with 20 years in service as a chief warrant officer 2. Also the electronic warfare officer/threat officer and tactical operations officer and the piss guy. My slot for the 64 was canceled due to budget cuts with the Department of Defense when Clinton took office. The a model had a lot of problems I got friends who fly the longbow and some are transitioning to the E model. Haven't been in the aircraft since 1997. As well as recent history maybe less than 2 years ago had a good friend named Carpenter who also worked at Redstone as a agent for foreign sales of apaches. He never mentioned anything about the tail rotor shredding. Fact he only had great things to say about them.
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Taiwan has the equivalent of super cobras.
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It's not the job of the Apache to fly fast and high. It's the ability to fly low and slow. It's not a lift aircraft it's an attack helicopter. Different missions different flight profiles. You may as well compared to a learjet.
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A drill sergeant once told me, you want to guarantee, buy a toaster. It's a combat zone dude, things get blown up. Haven't you seen star wars?
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Those were never built slick, try to keep up.
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@g00gl3_us3r your exact words were still "think they should use the RAH 64 comanche". That would portend that the choice is there. As far as attacks on sophisticated anti-aircraft radar systems I'm a retired attack helicopter pilot, that's not a part of our mission. We cover the Infantry and the armor. Those anti-aircraft systems would be so far ahead of us we have to get refueled just to get to them. Additionally, we don't really show up on ground-based radars. But I guarantee you the Air Force and navy has a system to wipe those things off the face of the earth. There's no need for helicopters to get involved . We'd be like a kindergartener getting involved in a Street brawl. Attack Helicopters are not involved in that type of thing
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@g00gl3_us3r if it helps you to know, we have a strategy on how we fight battles. The first thing in would be the Air Force Jammers and bombers. They take out the radar systems and the command control and Communications element, the c3. We didn't send in low-level strike fighters to take out the airstrips to keep them from flying away. Just like Desert Storm then we start bombing the living crap out of them for a week and a half maybe 2 weeks until they've been degraded to a significant amount. And then finally after that that's when the ground troops come in, and that includes the attack helicopters. By the time the ground element moves all defensive radar systems will be wiped out. The Army and Marines basically show up for cleanup. Bottom line, we don't need to evade radar because they won't be in existence at that point. It's quite the party if you've got an invite.
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Funny, the Russians have a lot of coaxial rotor helicopters which have been blown out of the sky.
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@Agnus78 I was not only a cobra pilot but a training officer in four different combat divisions. Air-to-air is nothing we actually trained for. Ever. When I started flying in Hawaii I noticed the Stinger crews, in their humvees. And I started to seriously think they actually don't have a job. Well technically they have a job but it's not something that they'll actually get a chance to do in a combat situation. We are very good at shooting planes out of the sky. Doing that job for 10 years not a single training scenario has come up with enemy aircraft. We always have air superiority, or in the words of a stinger platoon sergeant if it flies it dies. I'm almost certain he wasn't talking about us.
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Begins with canceled with only two prototypes built. You guys need to keep up. This is just embarrassing.
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With the exception of Airborne radars, Attack Helicopters skimming the ground is very very hard to see. The ability to hit targets miles away while you're hovering in the Treetops makes you near invisible to the naked eye. But you can rain down destruction on people who have no idea where you are. For those odd individuals with tactical Radars the second you turn them on the electronic warfare system will identify exactly where you are so good luck with that one slick.
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@Kaatu-barada-nikto one drone can take out one target. And attack helicopter can take out dozens. They're not quite equitable.
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@DomoGenisis976 if the defense budget allows it. Remember, we couldn't afford enough F-15 eagles which is how we got the F-16 falcon. It's cheaper, quite a bargain.
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I passed through there maybe 3 years ago. I'll have to check it out. Would have been there again this spring but it was ungodly hot between there and California. I do the trips on a motorcycle, so the air conditioning is lacking. Maybe next year
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It's buying Munitions and weapons from us suppliers so yeah, it's being spent in the US on us Builders manufacturers and such. People in the US are getting paid to do that work. They've had to hire more people for more shifts to turn out more bombs, more aircraft more everything. Dude, get with the program, Jesus christ. The level of stupidity in this country is astounding.
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@johnsilver9338 they installed and fired air-to-air missiles only to prove it could be done. There is no requirement, and I repeat that absolutely no requirement for Attack Helicopters to go out with air-to-air missiles. That's handled by the guys flying the jets. Our defensive strategy puts awacs aircraft in the sky and no enemy aircraft are going to get within 200 miles of the combat zone. Carrying Sidewinders on a helicopter in a movie might work out but in reality it's a ridiculous idea. It's not a part of the basic load it was just installed to prove it can be done.
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@johnsilver9338 it doesn't matter, they won't live long enough to fire the damn things.
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@johnsilver9338 john, think this through. There is no rationale in today's military and I thought this through a long time ago as to why we even have stingers because wherever we are, and I do mean the Army we have always would have the protection of the Air Force with us. Do you honestly think that those f-16s those Raptors those Lightnings are going to let miggs anywhere near us know the answer is no they would not. Again, I flew cobras. They rigged them on their from the manufacturer to show yes it can be done but there is no solid reason on God's green earth to put air-to-air missiles on a helicopter, that's retarded.
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@johnsilver9338 also, heilfires don't shoot down airplanes, they're meant for ground targets.
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@johnsilver9338 dude, even watching way way too many movies. Top Gun was a movie, Firebirds was a movie, and extremely stupid one. Yeah, makes all the sense in the world. Use a $20,000 missile to shoot down of $400 drone.
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@johnsilver9338 if you have enough time to put a guidance laser on a drone you could have done the same damn thing with a 30 mm that is attached to your helmet site system. Why the hell would you use a missile to shoot down a drone when you have a gun that will work much much faster? Are you eating lead-based paint chips for snacks. Well stop it
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@johnsilver9338 Again, I'm a retired attack helicopter pilot and tactical operations officer. WE DON'T DO THAT. We do not carry air to air because we don't need to. That's why we have fighters. AWAC's coverage insures the air is out for up to 200 miles. Nothing not on our side lives. Period. So no, we don't carry air to air. Even for a movie, which was in the movie Firebirds, we laughed at the thought. Anything in the skies are the jurisdiction of the air force and navy. We only kill ground targets engaged or threatening our ground forces in a mission called Close Air Support. and scouting operations. There will be no enemy helicopters, you're thinking of movies, not real life. For the life of me I couldn't understand why we had stinger teams, they have no mission.
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@sumdamwog3133 Boeing puts a lot of aircraft in the sky and satellites in space. Do you think everybody has a 100% success rate?
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It takes close to a year for an army helicopter pilot to graduate flight school. It's a helicopter, not a forklift. It's a little more complicated than a fixed-wing airplane.
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The eagle has 104 are kills and zero losses. At this point in time only the Raptor under simulated conditions can actually defeat the eagle. In essence, for any other airplane other than the Raptor and maybe the lightning to go up against an eagle is a suicide run. 104 kills zero losses. You can put that Chinese crap out there but all that means is that you're going to have the bodies of Chinese Pilots strewn across the countryside. And that's a fact jack!
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They don't pay Indian tribes for the naming rights to the aircraft period if you believe that you're an idiot. @TSUNAMICali
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