Comments by "Miguel D Lewis" (@MiguelDLewis) on "Israel: Who Are the Indigenous People? | 5-Minute Videos" video.
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@starhopper1706 Religion*. Kuki, Keifang, Igbo, Mizrahi, Ashkenazi, Black Hebrew Israelites, and Kushi Jews are all different ethnicities with different cultures, languages, customs, and diets. Even Moses and his wife Sephora were two different ethnicities, yet they were both Hebrew.
"Moses married an Ethiopian."
- Numbers 12:1
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@drm9694 How many of those 10 million Ashkenazim are religious Jews? If you assume that every Ashkenazi is a "Jew" even if they all don't practice Judaism, then we can assume that every Igbo is a "Jew" even if they all don't practice Judaism. There are 4 times more Igbos than there are Ashkenazim. Around 40 million Igbo Jews compared to 10 million Ashkenazi Jews means there are more Igbo Jews. Igbo Jews are not recognized as Jews by most Ashkenazi institutions like the Israeli government because these institutions are led by Talmudists. The Talmud says that black people are "black and repulsive brethren of the Ethiopians" in Rashi on Bereishit 12:11. The Talmud contradicts the Tanakh that says "I am BLACK and beautiful" in the Song of Solomon 1:5. And how fitting since the Jewish woman who said that, Shulumit, Queen of Sheba, has an archeological site in Nigeria (Sungbo's Erebo). So there's even more archeological evidence of Igbos being Jews than there are of Ashkenazim. So, the Ashkenazim allow Kushi Jews from Ethiopia to participate in Aliyah for the sake of virtue signaling and cheap labor while ignoring the Igbo Jews, knowing that they'd become the dominant population of Israel. It's even worse for the Ashkenazi majority if you include Kuki and Keifang Jews.
Adding Sephardi Jews to the equation is a Moving the Goal-Posts Fallacy. If we look at Yiddish-speaking Ashkenazi Jews specifically, they don't descend from any major Middle Eastern Haplogroup, such as the ubiquitous M2 Haplogroup that I mentioned previously. So, how was the Khazar Theory debunked when there's no specific genetic evidence linking Ashkenazim to the Middle East? What are the specific mutations or genetic markers, if any, are you even talking about?
If in Judaism, it is believed that the nation of Israel was chosen to follow the laws of the Torah, and therefore, Judaism is only for the nation of Israel and not for everyone, why does Isaiah 49:6 say, “It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will ALSO GIVE THEE FOR A LIGHT TO THE GENTILES, THAT THOU MAYEST BE SALVATION UNTO THE END OF THE EARTH"? Isaiah 60 also talks extensively about the conversion of the gentiles: "And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising. Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side. Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be CONVERTED unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee." Psalm 22:27 also reads,
"All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the Lord,
And all the families of the nations will worship before You"
So conversion is the rule of Torah and Tanakh, not the exception. Ashkenazi Talmudists are the minority among the global Jewish population and aren't even mentioned once in the Torah.
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@mohawk3371 1) He is still the founder of the Jewish nation, according to Genesis 12:2 - “And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:”
2)No, the reverse is actually true. The Hebrews were in Egypt already. Moses was an Egyptian Prince. Joseph ruled over Egypt also. The Hebrews were Egyptian by nationality. An invading power enslaved them and tried to get them out of Egypt according to Exodus 1:5-10: "And all the souls that came out of the loins of Jacob were seventy souls: for Joseph WAS IN EGYPT ALREADY...And the children of Israel were fruitful, and increased abundantly, and multiplied, and waxed exceeding mighty; and the land was filled with them. Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, WHICH KNEW NOT JOSEPH. And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we: Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies, and fight against us, and so GET THEM UP OUT OF THE LAND.
3) By your standard, Jews are not indigenous to Israel because being indigenous is impossible.
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@jonv8177 Actually it says they were Egyptian and Ethiopian. Hagar, Ishamael, Joseph, and Moses were Egyptian. Jacob lived in Egypt but was buried in Canaan. Sephora, Queen of Sheba, and Tirharka were Ethiopian.
"Sarah saw the son of Hagar THE EGYPTIAN, which she had born unto Abraham"
- Genesis 21:19
"Jacob lived in the land of EGYPT seventeen years...And Joseph commanded his servants the physicians to embalm his father: and the physicians embalmed Israel. And forty days were fulfilled for him; for so are fulfilled the days of those which are embalmed: and THE EGYPTIANS MOURNED FOR HIM threescore and ten days."
- Genesis 47:26 & 50:3
“And the child grew, and SHE BROUGHT HIM UNTO PHARAOH'S DAUGHTER AND HE BECAME HER SON. And she called his name Moses: and she said, Because I drew him out of the water.”
- Exodus 2:10
"Moses' wife (Sephora) was ETHIOPIAN"
- Numbers 12:1
"Solomon made also an house for PHARAOH'S DAUGHTER (Queen of Sheba) whom he had taken to wife"
- 1 Kings 7:8
"Taharqa, King of ETHIOPIA, has come to make war with Assyria, and defend Israel"
- 2 Kings 19:9
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@Renain-hr8bq It doesn't matter if she's main or not. Sephora is the Ethiopian wife of Moses, daughter of Jethro, priest of Midian. She's obviously important if the Most High saw it fit to include her in the Torah. The Most High even gave Miriam leprosy for speaking against Moses for marrying Sephora:
"And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman. And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it. (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth. And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed. And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow"
- Numbers 12:1-10
You keep saying things that aren't backed by any biblical evidence. Like I said, put down that heretical Talmud and read your Torah.
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@drm9694 It depends on what you mean by "Jew". Converting to Judaism is easy if you follow the Torah: just get circumcised (if you're a male) and follow the law. It's just as easy as converting to Christianity or Islam. But Talmudists might have a different view on conversion which contradicts the Torah.
Also, Jews are not an ethnic group since there are more Jews from Nigeria and India than there are from Europe. Igbo Jews and Kuki Jews drastically out number Ashkenazi Jews. Also, Ashkenazi Jews having "middle-eastern DNA" doesn't mean much since most humans have middle-eastern DNA as well. Haplogroup M2, for example, can be found all over the world for example. The Yiddish-speaking ethnicity and their Yiddish dialect is also widely theorized to be the result of the Jewish conversion of the European Khazars. The Hebrews of the Torah, who largely descended from Egypt, Canaan, and Ethiopia, did not speak Yiddish. The MIzrahi and Kushi Jews of this region still speak variations of Hebrew, Aramaic, and Amharic to this day.
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@beng2729 Black Hebrew Israelites are Messianic Jews. Though they follow Yeshua, the Jewish Messiah, they also follow Kashrut dietary laws, practice physical circumcision, and speak Hebrew and Aramaic. We Christians aren't called to do any of those things. Ergo, they are Jews. Messianic Ashkenazim, Igbo, Keifang, Kuki, Kushim, and Sephardim are still Jews too.
"Glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, TO THE JEW FIRST, and also to the Gentile:”
- Romans 2:10
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@mohawk3371 1) Provide biblical evidence. Your words contradict Genesis 12:2 and are, ergo, false.
2) You just proved that the Israelites are not indigenous to Canaan:
"And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Send thou men, that they may search the land of Canaan, which I give unto the children of Israel: of every tribe of their fathers shall ye send a man, every one a ruler among them." - Numbers 13:1-2
3) Okay, so if the term has no strict definition, it's impossible to be indigenous. It means nothing so it applies to no one, by your standard.
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@Renain-hr8bq It doesn't matter if the people of Israel are descended of her or not. Hagar is an Egyptian meaning that Abraham has Egyptian descendants via Ishmael. Abraham has an Egyptian bloodline of descendants. Ergo, Ishmael is still a seed of Abraham, just like Isaac.
That's as irrelevant as it is obvious. The Native Egyptians were ruled over by Joseph and the elders and people mourned over Israel's death. You just proved my point that Joseph was a ruler in Egypt, regardless of his ancestry.
If I took it out of context, give me proof from the Torah. You're contradicting the scripture if you;re saying that Moses did not become the son of the EGYPTIAN Pharoah's daughter.:
“And the child grew, and SHE BROUGHT HIM UNTO PHARAOH'S DAUGHTER AND HE BECAME HER SON. And she called his name Moses: and she said, Because I drew him out of the water.”
- Exodus 2:10
He is still an Egyptian Hebrew with an Ethiopian wife, regardless if he's your "father" or not. Ergo, the Hebrews were of Egyptian and Ethiopian descent too.
"Moses' wife (Sephora) was ETHIOPIAN"
- Numbers 12:1
You probably don't know Hebrew but the text says הַכֻּשִׁ֖ית which occurs several times throughout the Torah and Tanakh. It means an ETHIOPIAN. Stop reading that unholy Talmud and go back to Torah, Tanakh, and Besorah.
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Ashkenazis aren't Jews. they're gentiles:
"And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.
- Genesis 10:3-5
וּבְנֵי, גֹּמֶר--אַשְׁכְּנַז וְרִיפַת, וְתֹגַרְמָה.
וּבְנֵי יָוָן, אֱלִישָׁה וְתַרְשִׁישׁ, כִּתִּים, וְדֹדָנִים.
מֵאֵלֶּה נִפְרְדוּ אִיֵּי הַגּוֹיִם, בְּאַרְצֹתָם, אִישׁ, לִלְשֹׁנוֹ--לְמִשְׁפְּחֹתָם,
[בְּרֵאשִׁית]
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@drm9694 I'm sure the native Germanic Yiddish-speakers of the Khazars also didn't claim to have Jewish heritage prior to their conversion and tacking the Hebrew alphabet unto the clearly Germanic Yiddish language. And some Ashkenazim don't claim Jewish heritage so either way, if we assume all Ashkenazim are Jews, we must also conclude that all Igbos are Jews regardless of their religion. Either way, you must admit that Judaism is a religion and not an ethnic group since there are so many ethnic groups claiming to be Jews. You can't have it both ways. And also, as mentioned previously, there's a literal archeological site from the Queen of Sheba in Nigeria. There is no such site in Europe where the Germanic "Yids" originate. Ergo, comparing Ashkenazim and Igbos is not a false comparison since both groups have members who claim Hebrew descent. Using the same rules of judging "Jewishness", Igbo Jews outnumber Ashkenazi Jews.
The term "Ashkenazi Talmudists" makes sense because not all Ashkenazim subscribe to Talmud. Nor do all Sephardi or Mizrahi Jews. The term "Ashkenazi Talmudist" has nothing to do with the origin of Talmud. Ashkenazi Messianic Jews for example do not subscribe to Talmud as it directly contradicts Torah, Tanakh, and Besorah. Furthermore, Ethiopian Jews reject Talmud, likely because of the blatant black hatred found in Rashi on Beresheit, which I referenced previously. It's actually fitting that the Chief Rabbinate of Israel consists mostly of Ashkenazi Jews. Rabbi Yona Metzger would convert anyone for the right price so the only difference between him and his Rabbi buddies is he got caught.
This outdated study from two decades ago unfortunately has some issues. First, the authors are mainly Ashkenazi so there's an initial conflict of interest. Second, as I stated previously, the study grouped Ashkenazim with Roman, North African, Kurdish, Near Eastern, Yemenite, and Ethiopian Jews, providing a sort of genetic smokescreen for the Ashkenazi to hide behind. This study isn't specific to Ashkenazim. Lastly, there's no control group for non-Jewish haplotypes of a different geographic origin. Out of 29 populations, the study lists Haplotype N as a major genetic marker found most frequently between Europeans, North Africans, and Ashkenazim. But this doesn't mean much sense the Tanakh says in 1 Kings 11:1, “But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites;” With this in mind, we can deduce that even the non-Jewish groups of different geographic origin could potentially share the exact same markers. Unfortunately, they're not in the study so there's no control group to judge the findings against.
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@laurenzb.1919 Ashkenazis aren't Jews. they're gentiles:
"And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.
- Genesis 10:3-5
וּבְנֵי, גֹּמֶר--אַשְׁכְּנַז וְרִיפַת, וְתֹגַרְמָה.
וּבְנֵי יָוָן, אֱלִישָׁה וְתַרְשִׁישׁ, כִּתִּים, וְדֹדָנִים.
מֵאֵלֶּה נִפְרְדוּ אִיֵּי הַגּוֹיִם, בְּאַרְצֹתָם, אִישׁ, לִלְשֹׁנוֹ--לְמִשְׁפְּחֹתָם,
[בְּרֵאשִׁית]
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Ashkenazis aren't Jews. they're gentiles:
"And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.
- Genesis 10:3-5
וּבְנֵי, גֹּמֶר--אַשְׁכְּנַז וְרִיפַת, וְתֹגַרְמָה.
וּבְנֵי יָוָן, אֱלִישָׁה וְתַרְשִׁישׁ, כִּתִּים, וְדֹדָנִים.
מֵאֵלֶּה נִפְרְדוּ אִיֵּי הַגּוֹיִם, בְּאַרְצֹתָם, אִישׁ, לִלְשֹׁנוֹ--לְמִשְׁפְּחֹתָם,
[בראשית י׳]
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@tonyduwang Ashkenazis aren't Jews. they're gentiles:
"And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.
- Genesis 10:3-5
וּבְנֵי, גֹּמֶר--אַשְׁכְּנַז וְרִיפַת, וְתֹגַרְמָה.
וּבְנֵי יָוָן, אֱלִישָׁה וְתַרְשִׁישׁ, כִּתִּים, וְדֹדָנִים.
מֵאֵלֶּה נִפְרְדוּ אִיֵּי הַגּוֹיִם, בְּאַרְצֹתָם, אִישׁ, לִלְשֹׁנוֹ--לְמִשְׁפְּחֹתָם,
[בְּרֵאשִׁית]
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@mrsaul3709 I agree. Abraham may have been from either Iraq (Ur) or Palestine/Israel (Cannan). The bible doesn't say for certain. But it does say Abraham lived in Ur prior to moving to Canaan so he was most likely from Ur.
Actually, the Jews, according to the bible, are of many different nations, including Canaan, Egypt, Ethiopia, Sudan, Ophir (Africa), India, etc. Even Bathsheba was likely a Hittite (Turkey/Europe). Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity. It's a race of many different ethnicities under a single God. Back then, race meant religion.
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