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@Owlr4ider I disagree, most people (myself included) were indeed fooled by Russia into thinking they were a formidable power, this I believe was coloured greatly by the USSR's victory in WW2, but the Red Army was almost 40% Ukranian and other non Russians made up sizable contingent too, Russia is NOT the USSR and has dined out for free for too long on it's legacy.
Nuclear weapons are a red herring, they are a strategic weapon, they can only be used as a psychological tool against nations that do not possess them but they cannot be used to bully powers that do and they cannot be used to project your tactical power, it's like you having insurance for your house/car, great but not much help if you can't afford to buy your lunch.
Your other point about NATO militaries is another red herring, they were developed and shaped to suit an holistic Western defensive doctrine over a longer time, and of course British and French units would fight with the same desperation if they were defending their own countries this goes without saying and tells us nothing, impressive as Ukraine's military performance has been with a motley mixture of ex-soviet and Western equipment (nothing is a better teacher than experience as the Red Army also found out 1941/2 they were a different beast by 1943) they'd be much more impressive if they'd had Western training and doctrine since 1990.
Your final line is telling, Russia has had it's pants pulled well and truly down and the whole world can see how big they really are.
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@timonsolus Nuclear weapons are not like conventional ones, although France has the 3rd biggest nuclear arsenal in the world quantity does not equate proportionality, it has more than enough warheads and missiles to turn every major Russian population center into swamps of molten lava, point is nuclear weapons are strategic in nature, that is their value is only as a threat or a deterrent and they are a one shot weapon because once used there cannot be any more threat or deterrent or any victory.
The uses for them tactically are extremely limited as any lands hoping to be conquered would be useless, invading land units are not concentrated, nor can they be used against internal revolution, their only real tactical use would be against a seaborne invasion fleet which would be sufficiently concentrated and limit any damage to land.
Your other point of an insane actor is overstated, because of the danger of accidental detonation while dormant there are many steps that must be taken by different individuals before launching is possible.
Also worth noting is these weapons are extremely expensive to maintain, the US says it spends USD 50 Billion maintaining theirs, it is unknown how much Russia spends but considering the restraints imposed by the war in Ukraine it's safe to assume that much of their stated nuclear arsenal is not functional but as I said quantity isn't essential, they would retain a significant threat (or deterrent).
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WHAT??? 😂
Total lying garbage from Hannan,
The trade deals were laughable, all quick cut and paste surrenders, the Japanese are lactose intolerant and Australia will destroy British farming.
Britain lagged behind other countries while they allowed their Russia oligarchs move their loot from Londongrad.
There was no race to launch a vaccine, Britain botched the fight against covid and hundreds of thousands died needlessly.
The EU never put a vaccine embargo on NI, they threatened but on the advice of the republic of Ireland this was quickly retracted.
All Tory lies, Hannan is a fool but the other creature Tombs is pure malevolence, he dares point the finger at 27 other countries when the Johnson regime has become a byword for corruption and waste as the worst UK government ever, its them that risks peace in Ireland and as regards lessons on democracy from a member of a rotten antiquated system with an unelected head of state unelected house of review used to pay for political favours and no written constitution, the ultimate insult.
Having the richest biggest market in the world right on your doorstep yet choosing to place obstacles in your own way, no other country in history voluntarily choose to place sanctions on itself and make itself poorer and less secure.
You'll pay and your children will pay and your grandchildren will still be paying.
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@Moonraker I beg to disagree, now we know success has many fathers but poor failure is a bastard but around the time of the referendum the rhetoric was garbled and jumbled and they couldn't articulate what they expected to be sure, but reading between the lines of all that talk of war nostalgia and "taking back control" the narrative was that they wanted to somehow recreate the great days of empire.
As regards Putins referendum in the occupied lands please don't be disingenuous, this is not an Russian election where he receives much genuine support, it is just a pathetic cheap trick.
PR tends to favour compromise and horse trading which like referendums the English are not really used to, heheh compromise is not really in your culture, but the Germans and Japanese instantly took to democracy when they had no history of it previously.
There is another system which we use in Australia called preferential voting it is sort of halfway between FPTP and PR, instead of 1 vote you vote 1,2,3,4 etc in order of your preferred candidates, if no candidate gets 50%+1 of 1st preference votes 2nd 3rd etc come into play, in this way the leading candidate may be (and often is) overhauled by most peoples 2nd favourite, this is extremely reflective of the voters wishes, it also has the affect of tending to centralise the vote ie excluding extremists of both Right and Left.
This can seem bland and boring when compared to UK or US politics but it's often the countries with the blandest of politics which are often the most peaceful and prosperous.
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@emmabird9745 No, participation is mandatory but what you write (if anything) is secret.
Australia is where secret voting was first introduced along with votes for women, federal elections are every three years and
the lower house is the executive, the majority there form government, the upper house is the house of review (like the Lords except elected by PR), each state gets an allocation of senators (so smaller states aren't overridden by larger ones like England does) and thats where the horse trading is, they can and frequently do hold up and amend legislation, but thats just the federal government there are also states which have their own governments and senates.
A word on referendums, not only is a majority needed but also a majority of states (so brexit wouldn't have passed), so difficult are they to pass that only 8 out of 44 have ever passed.
I think it is an extremely fair and representative system, hope this helps.
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@ecaeas4439 Well obviously a shake up is as you said, a root and branch reform, Britain has had it before in history in the 17th century, it would be better if it was peaceful and planned rather than violent and chaotic, the brexit catastrophe might just be the catalyst for change, things cannot go on like this because living standards will slip further and further behind the rest of western Europe.
Don't compare Russia and China to the UK, they are very different societies, China has been one country for thousands of years, Russia is just a wild savage frontier which only the most brutal central power can control, they've never known democracy, only force.
No, look to more comparable societies, obviously the Anglophone countries like Australia and Canada and the advanced European economies for examples.
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@a.westenholz4032 It's the first time I've been accused of using trendy words lol, I utterly reject that, I pride myself in being distinctly unfashionable and giving the ugly truth to people whether they want to hear it or not, it's you seems to be jumping all over place but since you've ignored indigenous cultures who place a crucial emphasis on actual physical places to a spiritual extent we'll just confine ourselves to to nation states if you don't mind.
So my "geo-ethnic centric argument" is nothing of the sort as it concerns the modern nation state and it assumes nothing besides people feeling more comfortable around those who they are most similar to, this similarity may be cultural religious professional economic racial ideological political or just a common favourite football team- This is indisputable.
You asked what it means to have "a cohesive culture" but you must surely know that nation states originally had to be forged from different language groups different religions and more recently different racial groups, this was done for economic or ideological reasons and it was done usually with force, when applied to the nation state this cultural cohesion comes from a set of shared values that it was founded on, but now many nation states (especially those founded on a sense of liberty and individualism seem to be tearing themselves apart because they simply have become too populous and diverse, its impossible to feel kinship with someone who shares none of the values I previously mentioned.
In my opinion there are certain larger nation states that have had their day and are no longer fit for purpose, they are too big to serve local needs and too obstructionist to serve global needs like climate change and movement of populations, which are much better handled by multi-national organisations like the EU.
I don't know why you mentioned the hundred years war which happens to be a area of expertise for me, those societies were pre nation state and ordered entirely differently, in the feudal world everyone knew their place in the universe but as war is the collapse of order it is entirely another discussion far too involved and not relevant to this thread.
It's been an enjoyable exchange of views but as you say we've strayed far the original subject, and I don't think I'm controversial in saying Scottish independence is a matter for registered Scottish voters resident in Scotland to decide.
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@dougerrohmer It's even more complicated than that as I over simplified, if there are say 5 candidates and if you just put a 1, and your candidate is eliminated then the vote is split equally amongst the remaining 4 candidates or you can put 1,2,2,2,2 etc.
And that's just the Representatives (lower house) we also have the Senate which is PR, but there can be 100 candidates so most people just vote for a party or micro party (theres plenty of choice from the sex party to the hunters and fishers) and let them allocate the vote, and according to deals sometimes they get in, so that's the federal election and it's every 3 years, then there's the state elections every 4 years and oh I nearly forgot council elections all mandatory to participate it, we are the most over governed place in the world.
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