Comments by "Rousseau" (@rousseau327) on "Porsche 911 GT3 vs Nissan GT-R track battle" video.

  1. +KaneDesigns People are saying it's because the GT3 has a tire advantage...which is stupid because the GT3 also has track-oriented tires on it as well lol.
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  2. dimos k No, you see GT3 vs. GTR, with the tires that they come with from the factory. 
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  3. SeanyMacks But let's not forget that he's the biggest Porsche fan, that's unhappy that his "favorite" car lost in a track battle that was actually unfair towards the Porsche. Logic lol.
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  4. +Filippo Rindone Similar tires, under the same weather conditions. What the fuck are you talking about, did you even watch the whole video.
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  5. +Roman Pyasetskyy The GT3 had track oriented tires, and according to Steve, the GT-R had the Dunlop equivalents. Tire test? Not really.
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  6. +Flat Eric Because the GT3's tires were sooo suited for the rain, am I right? Jesus christ. He even said the Dunlops are close to the Michelins on the GT3.
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  7. +Porsche Highly Did you even watch the whole video?
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  8. +Joe Achilles Two comparable cars (mind you, the GT3 has pretty slick tires on it as well), tested in the same conditions. Why exactly is it pointless?
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  9. Kaisuke971 That's some fucking bullshit right there. If PZero Trofeo R and Sport Cup 2s are both semi-slicks, then by definition, they are similar. Because they don't deliver the exact same performance, therefore they are not the same. But cause they are both performance semi-slick tires, two interpretations of the same thing from two different companies, that makes them similar. Sure one is probably better in the wet than the other. But for one semi slick to make the difference of 2 seconds of ~100 horsepower difference + RWDvs.AWD? Stop getting your panties in a twist and making excuses.
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  10. Kaisuke971 Yes, because the two tires have crucial, FUNDAMENTAL differences such as a v6 vs. V10, RWD vs. AWD, ~100hp, VASTLY differently aerodynamics...that was the most, fucking, stupid analogy I have ever read. Get over yourself, the GTR is great, but its fucking generations old by now. It's not a shame to lose to a brand new GT3 that can lap at the pace of a 12C. It's only a shame that fanboys like you, whether you admit to it or not, keep blaming the TIRES for a 2 second difference in the wet, when both tires are semi-slicks.  To sum it up, you only managed to grasp onto one thing: Two different interpretations from 2 companies. You failed to see that the fundamental differences between your analogy is vastly different. The Viper ACR and the Nismo serve the same purpose but are in nearly different performance categories on the track, the Pirelli and Michelins semi-slicks are VERY close competitors.  In any case, I'm done arguing with someone who insists a different, yet equally good, set of semi-slicks is what made the car with a ~100hp deficit and RWD disadvantage 2 seconds faster in the rain. 
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  11. Kaisuke971 1. Nissan invests and seriously relies and Ring times to market their vehicles. You only need to refer to them marketing their Nismo lap record, with non-street legal components to see this. In addition to cross referencing its lap times with the ZR1 and other similarly quick cars on the Ring, with their lap times outside the Ring. No one who has been around takes the GTR's Ring time without a grain of salt. 2. I AM NOT SAYING THE TIRES DONT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Jesus fucking christ. Remember back when I said they were SIMILAR and NOT the SAME? Michelin is definitely by far better than Dunlop, but you're going sit their with a straight face and tell me that's what made a TWO SECOND difference on a roughly 1.5 minutes track, in the RAIN, between the GTR and a GT3? A RWD v.s AWD car? A car that laps the Ring, supposedly, 7 seconds quicker than the GT3? THAT'S WHAT IM GETTING AT. All you people are making the tire out to be the sole reason why the GT3 won, when anyone with half a brain will tell you two similar tires, whether it's from Dunlop, Michelin, Pirelli, what have you, on two supercars do not make up for that lap time difference with the conditions as they are.  Stop arguing that the tires are not the same, because we already established that from the first comment. 3. The ACR can keep pace on the track with the likes of the 918 and P1 under the correct driver, and can sometimes even beat those hypercars. Until you can find me a Nismo that is street legal and not tuned by Nissan that can do the same, then the ACR is on a different playing field than the Nismo. 4. The 918 beat the P1 on various tracks when the P1 is lighter, has more power, and had on Trofeo Rs, in the P1's track mode. Not saying tires are insignificant, but there are so many factors than make the 918 quick: AWD, Rear wheel steering are two that come to mind. Expand your sights a little. The world more than just tires and whether or not one company is better at it than another.
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  12. Kaisuke971 Furthermore, I'd like to add that in many tire tests, the transition from a summer tire to semi-slicks result in anywhere from 2-4 seconds in differences in tracks of roughly the same length as the one in the video. You're going to tell me that a change in company makes for a 2 second difference, when a change in the entire tire compound makes for roughly that much? Get lost.
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  13. Hadie Roseli No, not when the change in brand is not in terms of a large change in tire compound. A change in brand will cause changes in lap times, but 2 seconds on a lap that lasts no longer than 1.5 minutes is a lifetime, it's not something that can happen purely because of acompany change, ESPECIALLY if one of these cars is putting down more power, AND has AWD to give it the advantage in the SAME unsuitable weather.
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  14. +Mgoblagulkablong I know two people already said it, but your stupidity warrants another. Watch the whole fucking video before you comment. They took the GT3 out in the rain again, was still 2 seconds faster than your beloved GT-R.
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  15. +steerj07 Watch the whole video. They redid the GT3's lap in the same terrible conditions as the GT-R, and it still came out on top.
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  16. +blocksterz Meaningless and boring?? What the fuck. This was like any other track genuine battle on Youtube. I'm assuming you didn't watch till the end, because they reran the GT3 in the same conditions as the GT-R, and it still won. Similar tires, same conditions, same driver. Do show where it's meaningless.
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  17. Jonathan Pontel No, your ass is just hurt that the AWD GT-R lost out to a RWD GT3 in bad weather. Just because conditions aren't perfect, does not mean a test is useless. A test is only useless if the two subjects are 1) completely incompatible or 2) the factors that affect the two subjects are different. The GTR has more power, The GT3 is lighter, arguably balancing that part out. They both have on track oriented tires, both were run under the same weather conditions, with the same driver. This test is anything BUT useless, because you know what? Not all races are done in perfect ideal weather.  Next argument for you, you prick.
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  18. Jonathan Pontel When was the last time you saw a car raced in snow, that wasn't a rally car of sorts? Races in the rain, on a racetrack, are conducted ALL the time. Is this really the argument you're going for? Talk about being a dumbfuck...lol.
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  19. blocksterz Are you kidding me? This video was typical Steve Sutcliffe stuff. I don't know about you, but I was pretty taken aback that the GT3 was quicker than the GTR in the rain. If that logic defying result doesn't give you at least a little bit of excitement, I'm not sure what else to say to you.
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  20. Jonathan Pontel That's still a stupid argument. Yes, ideal conditions make for a better test. But rainy conditions also make for a good test, because it shows how each cars handles such conditions. Did I say the bad conditions are BETTER for a test than ideal ones? Maybe in your pea sized brain I did, but if you can actually read, I did not. A test in ideal conditions is BETTER, but a test in equally realistically bad conditions is NOT useless, and you said. It brings another real life element into the comparison of two cars. Maybe your neanderthal brain can't comprehend what actually goes on in the real world. Next my ass.
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  21. Jonathan Pontel Big part of that 80% are hurt GTR fanboys, the other part didn't finish the video, and thought the GT3 ran the lap damp, while the GTR ran it wet. The other part are just dumbasses like you. Nice try. Next you say? Dumbass.
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  22. Jonathan Pontel May not be as good as Randy, but sure as hell good enough to be making legitimate laps in these cars. He was only 0.4s behind the pace of an F1 test driver, in an F1 car. Talk about next, moron.
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  23. +Zihao Ye I know two other people already said it, but seeing as you would even think for a second that the GT3 doesn't have track tires: The GT3 also had track tires, and it was also ran in the rain for a second time, and still came out 2 seconds quicker.
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  24. +William Pauls No, this is a stupid comparison for people who are stupid. Seeing two cars battle it out under the same conditions is what auto enthusiasts love. What good is a street car if it can only perform in the fucking dry? News flash, it rains in this world.
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