Comments by "Benjamin Rood" (@benisrood) on "travelingisrael.com" channel.

I'm sure it was a battle. That doesn't also mean that it was battle because your grandpa was there to take their land and drive the people of the village off it. Or that their armed resistance to you doing so wasn't equally legitimate. Just because it was a battle doesn't excuse it cancel out the underlying basis for why a battle was occurring in the first place, surely?
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Please watch the documentary 'Tantura' released last year by Israeli Jews about the Nakba, and tell me if it comports with "Israel always tells the truth, good and bad". Because the events detailed in that documentary demonstrate the complete opposite.
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@Jen39x I'm sure the natives that didn't lose their homes and land were peaceful, just as Jews and Arabs were co-existing on that land before the declaration and establishment of the State of Israel.
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@Rabbithole8 You said, I am quoting you: > Israel presents the truth blemishes and all Yet you also say that the government doesn't. So you are either talking out both sides of your mouth, or not expressing yourself well at all. Well, when people talk about Israel, they are talking about the government and successions of government. I never once said "Israelis" as in all the individuals. You've also said you are not Israeli, if I am correct? If that's the case, why do you feel the need to Stan for them? Am I right in guessing you are Jewish, then? Listen, if you were Palestinian I bet you would have a completely different point of view and that is what people like you cannot do, you cannot put yourself in their shoes. I am completely capable of understanding how Israelis feel and sympathetic to their desires, that doesn't make those desires fair, and their belief that they are "God's Chosen" and "God gave us Israel" doesn't validate any of their claim to the land, but I so often hear it brought up. You mention 'antisemitism', but how you described Palestinians is full of an equal degree of bigotry, Palestinians just don't get a special privileged word for it. In answer to your question, I don't need to point out the corruption and cynicism of Arab leaders, because they are thoroughly covered in the west. I push back against narratives that flatter the State of Israel and the foundation of Israel, because that is what we in the west have been bombarded with all our lives. Especially with this video which is blatant Israeli government propaganda, designed to manipulate the citizenry of foreign countries. This video is produced as part of information warfare, and your initial comment completely reeks of the stench of it. Got it? Jews aren't special cases of human beings, they are equally capable of deceit, being murderous and evil as they are able to being lied about, murdered and have evil done to them.
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@Torric25 I'm not American, pal, so your attempts at guilt-by-association to gain sympathy won't work on me. That is still no excuse, and America is far more honest about its foundation.
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@Macboy62 The IDF are getting an additional 15 billion dollars from the US taxpayer. They get 4 billion a year already. They don't need your money, give aid to food shelters in your local community instead, those are the people who need your help.
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@davideddy2672 They would also be appalled at how their governments treated them and their ancestors and have been importing millions of foreigners to demographically replace them. They would be horrified and disgusted with how the face of UK has been artificially changed in so few decades, purely by mass immigration, and their reactions would be absolutely right and normal. I wonder if you ever asked yourself what your grandparents or great-grandparents would think and feel. That's far more important than worrying about how people in Israel or Gaza or the West Bank are.
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@Jen39x "Wanderers and strangers" that spontaneously popped villages into existence, I take it, into a land that Jews HAD NOT HELD FOR nearly TWO THOUSAND YEARS. By your same right of current-day conquest, the Jews lost that land back then. I suppose you have no objections to Russians taking back the parts of Ukraine artificially gifted to them during the Soviet times then? It's a far more relevant claim than that of Ancient Judea. Especially since the people living in Eastern Ukraine overwhelmingly identify as Russian, speak Russian, and were engaged in a war for their independence from Ukraine since 2014 before Putin recognised their independence in Feb 2022. I'm just trying to find out where you draw the lines.
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@gutsfinky Vox is a lying propaganda machine, no doubt. The only reason I keep getting ads for this channel is because he is massively funded to spout propaganda, too. This is literally a propaganda channel, not a 'humble tour guide' 😂 I decided to watch the video I kept getting ads for, because I'm open minded and neutral on this conflict, and as suspected, propaganda. Of course the Palestinians lie, too, and omit their crimes and violence, but they never gassed anyone or ethnically cleansed them from their land, the justifications are irrelevant. One side are the bigger liars.
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@Alex3Mythical Are you taught that you drove people from the land and homes and ethnically cleansed them? I don't care how much you won as "spoils of war", that began in 1948 by your side prior to that and taking it as part of war was a continuation of the same aims. The amount of development and achievements that Israel has done on the land doesn't change that or justify it. The British gifting something that wasn't theirs to give doesn't legitimise it. Your God did not come down from heaven to gift it to you, neither was he speaking to Ben-Guiron. I'm not Arab, I don't like Islam, yes they do have an extreme hatred of Jews which predates the formation of the state of Israel. That doesn't change the facts of how the state of Israel was established. Nothing can take away from other virtues that Israelis have accomplished, the sweat and blood of building a nation is a great thing. But please don't try to tell me that Israel doesn't lie to itself about how it came to be, just watch the documentary 'Tantura' which is made by Israeli Jews which exposes this as a lie. Don't try to say that when in the specific cases where Palestinian Arabs have the documents which prove their ownership of the land or even the very house some settlers are now living in and they won't be given it back that isn't theft. Do your teachers tell you that it was an 'ethnic cleansing' or do they refuse to use that term? Germans get a real indoctrination of the horrors that occurred during WW2, don't try to tell me Israelis get an equivalent education. Come on.
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@gal2659 Gal, here in Lithuania they say that the Russians (not even the Soviets, specifically Russians) "raped them" during the Soviet occupation that came about as a result of war. The whole world acknowledged the statehood of the USSR, does that somehow make it not an occupation? Do I need to keep going on with this analogy for you, or can you see the incongruity of your argument?
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@k9px You can and should be sick at that. You can and should be angry at the succession of governments that for decades engaged in mass immigration programs and never once asked the people to vote on that specific issue, in fact they deliberately never asked you, and used the media to frame your concerns as 'racism', as if somehow that would make it legitimate to massively change the demographics and face of your nation that was built by all your ancestors, not some tossers in government buildings. None of that makes what the IDF is doing right now in Gaza legitimate, either. (Edited this since you clarified that you are in a Scandinavian country, not the UK. All the same applies and more, you should curse your governments for bringing in such people as 'refugees' who somehow couldn't just manage to find any other land which wasn't in conflict between "Syria" and Sweden or Norway or Denmark or Finland.)
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@gillhall7590 Sunak should not be PM, nor should Sadiq Khan former lawyer to terrorists be allowed to be Mayor of London. I am against Islam, I don't believe there should be even one minaret visible in the UK. I don't understand, though, why you have some special allegiance or love for Israel, a foreign country. Feeling compassion and sympathy for what Hamas fighters did on October 7th is completely justified, it was terrorism, but there are many many many massacres and atrocities occurring every year in the world by all sorts of people, why is what happened on October 7th to Israelis so disproportionately especially deserving of any more care than all the other places that you never hear about or think of? That's what I can't understand. You can feel sorrow and compassion and have empathy for the rage and desire to strike back by Israelis and also be against the bombing of Gaza and the thousands of dead children as a result. I don't see how one deserves more compassion than the other.
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