Comments by "Sandy Tatham" (@sandytatham3592) on "ISRAEL-SAUDI ARABIA | A New Relationship?" video.

Remember that Israel tried 'giving land for peace' twice already? It worked quite well with Egypt who have Sinai again. But giving Gaza to the Arabs, with Hamas in charge and both Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad being backed by Iran, is a very different story!!! Do you really think Israel would give any more land to an invented people who proudly declare that they want to kill the Jews? This will change though, and I think Israel just has to bide its time before extending sovereignty over all of Judea and Samaria.
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@osamaasiri4746 : My 'mentality' is that I'm happy with the Jewish people being acknowledged in 1920 by the League of Nations as the #indigenous people of historic Palestine. The land of Israel is theirs to reconstitute their ancestral home in. When the Ottoman Caliphate was DEFEATED, the Arabs were granted self-determination over 99% of the Middle East land that was formerly part of their 'empire'. Today those countries are Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. The Jewish people wanted less than 1% and they share it with 21% Arabs who are today full citizens with equal rights under the law. The reality is that the so-called Palestinians who were #displaced in 1948 should by now have been resettled in the surrounding Arab countries. Maybe there's still time for that to happen? And then they could apply to Israel for residence visas. That way they get all the same rights as Israelis, but no national voting rights. I think there is even a level of acceptance in Saudi Arabia for this to eventually happen. I suggest you watch the 5min PragerU video by international law professor Eugene Kontorovich called "Does Israel Occupy the West Bank?" as he clarifies the disputed status very well.
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@JamesKerLindsay : I was heartened by the conference held in Jerusalem in March where Ynetnews reported that "more than 20 guests, some from countries that have no diplomatic ties with Israel, arrive for a historic conference in Jerusalem tackling war on terror and radicalization, desalination and food security." "Among the guests who came to the conference, initiated by the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, are representatives of Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Djibouti, Tunisia, Mauritania, and Sudan—states that do not have diplomatic ties with Israel. In addition, representatives came from the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Chad, Ethiopia, Ghana, Jordan, Kenya, Morocco, Namibia, Nigeria, Rwanda, Saudi Arabia, Somaliland, South Africa, South Sudan, and Uganda. Among the attendees were the former head of the Journalists Association of Bahrain and a senior Saudi reporter."
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I was in Sinai at the time of the attack, and I was very disturbed at the joyful reaction by my Egyptian friends towards the killing of three IDF soldiers. It's sickening to think that any one of those young military conscripts in Sinai could become radicalised and turn their rifle towards Israeli tourists, or any foreign tourists, just out of blind hate for Israel, President Sisi and non-believers.
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Even though your god says in the Qur'an that the land of Israel is for the Jews?
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@jhingoorpatima237 : I don't follow any religious doctrine but it's plain to see that the 'god' of Islam is a HUGELY different concept to the God of the Jews and Christians. As to who belongs in historic Palestine, the Muslims have a holy book which specifies that the Land of Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people. The problem is that the Qur'an also tells Muslims to "drive them out from where they drove you out" so they have two contradictory obligations to follow, which is fairly common in Islam.
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@aliragh : The Arab leaders from 1918 onwards always wanted a Jew-free state, and they still want that today, 'from the river to the sea'. Out of the DEFEAT of the Ottoman Caliphate, the Middle East land was handed over by the victors, the Allied Powers of British-France, etc. to the current occupants for self-determination, even though they were under no obligation to do so. The Arabs got 99% of that land, today's Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. The #indigenous Jews wanted less than 1% of that land, and they share it with 21% Arab Israeli citizens who have equal rights with Jews. So please stop whining about the poor 'Palestinians'. Stop using them as geopolitical #weapons against the Jews. By now they should all have been resettled in one of the surrounding Arab countries after they refused to accept peace with the Jewish state of Israel.
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@jhingoorpatima237 : "My interest?" I support #indigenous rights. The Jewish people are acknowledged as having a continuous connection to the Holy Land for around 3500 years, plus they supported the Allied Forces in liberating their ancestral homeland from the Ottoman Empire in 1918. I mention the Qur'an because it's important to understand what motivates the so-called 'Palestinians'. For example, the Qur'an is quoted in the Charter of Hamas. I'm always happy to expose the contradictions in Islam. I was invited to become a Muslim by my friends many years ago, and I told them that I must first study the doctrine. I now find it important to educate others on it. It's great to see so many who were born into Islam now rejecting a large part of the standard Islamic doctrine because it doesn't fit with their inner moral compass and their rational thinking.
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@CJ-fs1zr : I agree that it does SEEM like a contradiction. And I'm happy that there is an increasing trend for Jews (and Muslims) to NOT circumcise their infant boys, but to let them make their own 'covenant' with God when they have reached the age of consent. That's all I ask for. That a parent does not mutilate the genitals of a child who can't consent and who might not even want to belong to the religion/identity of the parent when he grows up. However I do believe that this very costly 'sacrifice' that Jewish males make could play an important part in preserving their 'group identity' and thus give them an *evolutionary advantage*. When you have invested such a vital part of your body in being a member of the Jewish identity, then it could serve a valuable purpose. And a small group that has been persecuted around the globe for eons should probably continue any tradition that benefits them. I don't see that #circumcision carries the same 'group identity' purpose for Muslims. Most of my Muslim friends tell me that their genital cutting is done for 'cleanliness' which is ludicrous in these days of adequate water for washing. Islam has other obsessions with bodily cleanliness as well. Foreskin removal was done to Egyptian slaves so, as a Muslim is said to be a slave to Allah, I guess it fits the purpose in that way? I believe that any genital cutting should be left to the owner of the body to choose for himself when he's mature enough and has done his own medical research and soul-searching. The same goes for girls.
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@doit2810 : Maybe you can tell me why the 'Palestinians' STILL get all of the attention, funding and public support when there are real refugees today who are in greater need of help? In the last 100 years, millions and millions of people have been #displaced. Some were forced to exchange populations (Turkey-Greece), some were persecuted and exiled (800,000 Jews from Arab lands), and others fled from one country to another to avoid bloodshed when a new country was formed (India-Pakistan). But today it's only the so-called Palestinians who still play #victim. It's only their 'feelings' which seem to count because they are being used as pawns in the game of Arabs against the Jews. All efforts should be made on resettling them with citizenship in one of the surrounding Arab countries, and then Israel might allow them to apply for long-term residence status in their current homes. But if they behave in a hostile manner to the Jewish nation, they must be deported. The Jews did not get to return to their ancestral home due to 'sentiments'. They supported the Allied Powers in the war effort against Germany-Ottoman Empire, and for that they were rewarded with the chance to reconstitute their ancestral homeland, the land that they are #indigenous to. The majority of the 'Palestinians' were recent immigrants in 1948. They had come from Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries when they saw employment opportunities after the British and Jews had improved the land of Palestine. The countries of their recent ancestors should give them citizenship, and not hold them in perpetual stateless limbo.
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@osamaasiri4746 : I'm well aware that the Arabs were the invaders and conquerors and they imposed their culture and religion upon those that they conquered. So I propose that the more recent immigrants to the area of Palestine be repatriated to the lands of their forebears, for example the al-Masris being given citizenship by Egypt, same for Syrians, Kurds, Iraqis, Libyans, etc. Jordan is around 70% 'Palestinian', even though the ruling family are Arabs, so their culture is already compatible with many 'Palestinians'. As for the idea of "Israelis sharing the land with Palestinians", today around 21% of Israeli citizens are already Arabs. That's the tipping point for Islamic extremist problems all around the world, so I would never recommend that Israel increase their Arab Muslim citizenship quota, though allowing 'Palestinians' to return on long-term residence visas would probably be viable. Finally, how can you "negotiate and build good relations" with those who declare in their political charters that they want you dead or gone? I wouldn't count on the US, Britain or Israel decreasing in power so much that the Islamic bloc, with assistance from China and Russia, will overtake them. Islam is losing power and things are looking more positive (from my perspective) by the number of Islamic countries now normalising economic ties with Israel, either officially or through back channels. Everyone can benefit from the entrepreneurship of the Israelis. Mohammed bin Salman has brought in huge changes in Saudi Arabia. The young people now have access to information and can communicate with the whole world. This was never available to the generations that came before, who were more easily *indoctrinated*. You can't stop the spread of knowledge, so that also gives me hope for peace in the region.
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@brokenman8100 : Well said...🙏
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@doit2810 : Exactly. The so-called 'Palestinians' want all of historic Palestine without any Jews. I hope Israel stops appeasing the Arabs. I also hope that Israel proceeds with dividing Temple Mount so that ALL people... Muslims, Jews, Christians, Druze, etc... can have freedom of religion and freedom of belief.
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@maxamedcllaahi5722 : Sorry to disappoint you but the Jewish people were in the Middle East before Islam was invented, and they are there to stay.
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@maxamedcllaahi5722 : I think God is on the side of the Jewish people. Remember how they’ve won all of the wars since 1948? The Quran says that Israel belongs to the Jews so why don’t you accept that? Non-Jews, like the 21% Arab Israelis today, can live there and get equal rights under the law with Jews. Do you have a problem with that?
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The Jewish people were acknowledged as the #indigenous people of historic Palestine, having had a continuous connection to the land for 3500 years, even when in exile. In 1920 the League of Nations unanimously granted them the right to reconstitute their ancestral homeland, with all non-Jewish occupants to have equal rights under the law, which 21% of Israeli Arabs have today. The so-called 'Palestinians' are losing favour with the surrounding Arab nations and should realise that Israel is here to stay.
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Give them time. And at least they learned from Gaza that it would be a 'death wish' for the Israeli people if they ever gave up Judea and Samaria...🙏
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@aliragh : Why does my reply to you not work? Have I been reported for something?
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