Comments by "Sandy Tatham" (@sandytatham3592) on "PragerU" channel.

  1. Twelve years ago I was invited to become a Muslim by my Moroccan friends. I said I must study islam first. What I found out shocked me, especially the low status of women and girls in Islam. It's forbidden to critically examine Islam and speak out. Millions of people born into Muslim families want to leave the ideology but they are trapped.
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  2. Thank goodness I watched until the last two minutes for Bryan's 'message to the world'. It was perfect.
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  3.  @rayyanqureshi8622 : Numerous Islamic countries, or states within countries, maintain the de*th penalty for both apostasy and blasphemy TODAY. Where's the lie?
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  4. A comment from a recent Ben Shapiro video... "I'm a 31 year old Palestinian and have been living in Gaza for all my life. We're so scared right now and we want this to be over but a lot us (secretly, we can't say publicly) actually know Israel is in the right (yes, a lot of us here know Israel is not the one waging war). When we voted for Hamas more than 15 years ago, we thought they would let us have regular elections and turn this area into an amazing, democratic Palestinian land. But they regularly pay us massive money to rally on the streets and to tell the media Israel is the agressor and we badly need the money so we accept. Hamas officials told us that we have to stay in our work buildings when the Israel army warns us to leave before they bomb the buildings, if we don't Hamas will jail our families. We risk not moving in the hope that we don't get hurt so our families don't get jailed. We also get paid to hold fake funerals where we carry 'killed' children on stretchers in the streets (they're just pretending to be dead). What I'm trying to say is that what you see on the media is Hamas making us look like war victims, but really we are victims of Hamas who will do what Hamas says because of our desperation for money. We don't get aid even though apparently most countries say they give aid. We use to live peacefully with the Israeli's before Hamas controlled us and now we rely on Hamas to survive. Some of us have tried to escape to Israel but Hamas will also kill our family if they find out. We pray that one day Hamas will stop using all they money for rockets and terrorists and use its money for us, to build us parks and schools and hospitals and give us food. Right now I pray for the violence to stop." I can't vouch for this being a genuine comment from a Gaza resident but their YouTube channel was some years old and it looked very authentic to me.
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  5. "Israel is like a North star of truth"... beautiful.
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  6. That was a phenomenal interview!!! Thank you so much PragerU, Marissa, and Michael Oren...🙏💙
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  7. I love Bassem Eid and I can vouch for what he said at 34:30 mins. "The majority of the Palestinians in Gaza want to know how to escape from Gaza to another country". Last month in Cairo I met a Palestinian man in my guesthouse. He was flying to Dubai to sell his beautiful Gaza land in order to relocate his whole family in Turkey. He said there is no future in Gaza under Hamas. He also spoke Hebrew and spent much of his time doing business in Israel. I'm not sure if he is permitted to 'sell' his land but I'm sure there will be an opportunistic UAE businessman who is happy to enter into some kind of agreement with him.
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  8.  @chucklesthered2338 : Thanks for sharing this. I was quite mature when I had a relationship with a Libyan-Egyptian man whom I met in Damascus. At first it seemed lovely that he put lots of rules on me "because he cared so much about me". Slowly but surely you find yourself submitting. Thankfully I had to fly to London four months later and I escaped his manipulation, but I maintained a long-distance relationship with him for some years. He finally managed to get into Italy with a people-smuggling group, but it didn't go well for him there. He became a #jihadi and started to call me disgusting things. He's now disappeared and may not even be alive.
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  9. Well said... 🙏
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  10. I support #indigenous rights. Israel is an indigenous rights success story. The indigenous Jews share Israel with one-fifth Arab citizens who have equal rights under the law with the Jewish people and other minorities, and they all have freedom of religion. In 1948 the Palestinian Arabs did NOT accept the state of Israel. So what do these Palestinian Arabs base their claim to the land on? Why do they get such special treatment 75 years later? Up to 18 million South Asians had their lives upturned, but they didn't resist and they just on with things in their new homeland.
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  11. Israel is. Exactly...🙏
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  12. Just watched it and it's full of emotional rhetoric. No facts that I could see.
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  13.  @truth-seeker33 : I'm guessing she's more of a "cultural Muslim" than a believing one. But listening to her experience is still valid and worthwhile because she clearly grew up as an Israeli Arab in a Jewish town, and she was mocked by other Arab Israelis. At least one quarter of Muslims who move to the West leave Islam, but they keep the cultural aspects going. Edit: I just listened to the end and she seems to be "a pick-and-choose Muslim". She only follows those parts of Islam that align with her own moral guidance, and ignores the core doctrine of hate for the Jews.
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  14.  @lovescarguitar : The Jewish people were acknowledged as the #indigenous people by a League of Nation unanimous vote in San Remo in 1920, and ratified by the Mandate for Palestine document of 1922. The Jewish people were granted the right to reconstitute their ancestral home so long as they gave equal civil rights and freedom of religion to the existing non-Jewish community.
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  15. This is wonderful, thank you!!!
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  16. Very good point. I don't even understand why this accomplished and beautiful Bedouin Arab Israeli woman still calls herself a Muslim. She must know that Islam obligates believers to struggle (practice jihad) until all humanity submits or is subjugated to Allah, the 'god' of Islam.  Edit: I just listened to the end and she seems to be "a pick and choose Muslim". She only follows those parts of Islam that align with her own moral guidance, and ignores the core doctrine of hate for the Jews.
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  17. Who LOST WW1 in 1918? The Ottoman Empire. Losers back then did NOT get to choose who gets what land, especially if they are on the side of the people who started the war. From the defeat and dismembering of the Ottoman Caliphate, the Arabs were granted self-determination over 99% of the Middle East land. Countries today known as Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. And Israel shares its tiny 1% with 21% Arabs. But you still complain? Did you even bother to watch the video?
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  18.  @ConorJB1 : The British & French were in charge of administering the territories which were surrendered when the Ottoman Empire LOST the war in 1918. What do you think would have happened if the German & Ottoman Alliance had WON their aggressive war?
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  19. I feel so sad for Indian citizens, not the elite of course but those who were already living in poverty, the daily wage earners. Demonitisation was horrible too, and that also caused the death of some people. What a tragedy and loss of dignity. Thank you for sharing your perspective.
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  20.  @raz1616 : Fair enough. However some Gazans do speak English, and I've heard the same narrative from other Gazans who now live elsewhere in the Middle East or in safety in the West. Sure he might be exaggerating a few things (PTSD can have that effect on people) but we do know that video footage can be faked, and has been faked before for propaganda purposes. We also know that Hamas have been very violent against Gazans in the past, including keeping its citizens on the front line, or at least encouraging them to remain on the front line, even grooming children to be shahids, rather than evacuating them to safer areas near the Sinai border before declaring war on Israel. The discovery (by the UN) that Hamas has been maintaining arms caches in schools is clear evidence of blurring the lines between jihadis and civilians. Hamas have issued statements of their own executions of Gazan citizens. They've also carried out such executions in public, particularly where collaboration with Israel was suspected (though not proven) or for treason. It doesn't seem outlandish that families are also held to account for apostasy and/or treason/desertion by family members. The Arab/Islamic culture is one of honour and shame. Last month in Cairo I talked at length to a Palestinian man from Gaza who was staying in my guesthouse. He said life under Hamas had become increasingly unstable and untenable. As a relatively wealthy businessman, he was able to fly to Dubai, sell his land in Gaza, and relocate his whole family in Turkey. Natural attrition such as this will continue due to the fact that Hamas are corrupt and have little regard for civilians.
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  21. So you agree that the ethnic cleansing of around 850,000 Jews from Arab lands was also "immoral, unethical, and wrong"?
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  22. Israel should have been given sovereignty over all of 'historic' Palestine, their ancestral homeland, at the same time as the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan was granted 77% of the British Mandate of Palestine. But Israel obviously cannot afford to give full citizenship to hostile people. I guess it's a waiting game. More Arab nations are beginning to normalise relations with Israel...🙏
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  23.  @isecretlyvotedemocratbut2426  : The Qur'an is dualistic and contradictory. For every debate you can find the opposing side in the Islamic scriptures, Qur'an, Hadiths, Sira, Tafsirs, etc. Most of the peaceful 'revelations' came when the founder of Islam was not in a position of power. The later 'revelations' abrogate those earlier peaceful ones. Chapter 17 is believed to be an earlier Mecca 'revelation'.
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  24. Did you even watch the video? Demographics are not taken into account. The Jews are the indigenous people of the land.
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  25. Those Arab families who CHOSE to accept life under Israeli rule today have equal rights with Jews and they comprise 21% of Israel's citizens. They "have the right to consent to the government of that land" alongside their Jewish neighbours. So what are you talking about? And tell me one nation which has allowed hostile people to return after they joined the side of those who ATTACKED that nation? Nowhere else in the world do we still question the "population exchanges" that occurred due to the formation of new nation states. Look at India-Pakistan and Turkey-Greece, for examples of the millions of people who were displaced over the last 120 years. It's only because the Jews are involved that people still give massive funding and publicity to the #victims, the co-called 'Palestinians'. All other "displaced peoples" were granted citizenship and integrated into their new countries long ago. It was the Arab League which forbade the Arab countries from accepting those who left the new nation state of Israel, keeping them as pawns in the game of Arab vs Jew.
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  26. ​ @benrichards9259 : Do you understand that the decision to partition the British Mandate of Palestine was done by the international League of Nations? And that not every individual gets to consent to this? And that the Balfour Agreement, the San Remo agreement, and the agreement to partition Palestine included the provision that ALL people in the area would have equal rights under the law? If enough Arabs had remained in 1948, they could today have voted to change the government to a non-Jewish one!!! That was the first in a long line of very bad decisions by the Arab Muslims. The Ottoman Caliphate LOST their war of aggression against the Allied Powers in 1918. They did NOT get to choose what happened to the dismembered land of the Ottoman Empire. The international body of the League of Nations made decisions which were in the best interest of ALL people affected by WWI. Those who lived in 'historic Palestine' at that time had the choice to remain as equal citizens under Jewish rule, or they were free to move to any part of the 99+% of land that was granted by the League of Nations to the Arabs for their own self-determination (todays Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Saudi Arabia). The Jews ancestral homeland comprised less than 1% of that land. As for your comment on 'ethnic cleansing', please note that around 850K Jews were coerced to leave their multi-generational homes in Arabs nations. Do they complain today about what they had to leave behind? I agree that reparations are probably a nice idea on both sides, but the Jews lost far far more than those Arabs who were displaced from 'historic Palestine', so I doubt if any Arab nation would agree to reparations. The majority of the Arabs displaced from Palestine had only recently moved to the region from surrounding countries such as Egypt, Iraq or Syria, because they believed they had the chance of a better life under the British Mandate. The dilemma for them is that their Islamic ideology discourages Muslims from living under Jewish rule.
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  27.  @seattle0266 : Those Arabs who fought with the Ottoman Turks were on the side of the 'aggressors' in WWI. Sadly, not everyone gets to choose, or consent to what they want after a major world war. The Jewish people were acknowledged as indigenous to 'historic Palestine'. The Jews supported the Allied Powers, and were promised (in the Balfour Agreement of 1917) the right to self-determination in the Holy Land should the Allied Powers be lucky enough to win the war. The Arabs were granted more than 99% of the dismembered Ottoman Empire after the defeat of the Ottoman Turks in 1918. If any Arab living in the British Mandate of Palestine was hostile to the Jews being granted self-determination on a tiny piece of land, which was their ancestral homeland, then they should have moved to one of the newly-founded Arab countries and been given citizenship. A good number chose to stay and they comprise 21% of Israeli Arab citizens today. They participate in all levels of Israel life, including in the Knesset, in the judiciary, government, education, medical and technology industries, and even in the security services. I don't see why one group in the world continues to be given refugee status, huge funding, and massive publicity, when all other displaced peoples are given asylum and resettled elsewhere by the UNHCR. Perpetuating the #victim status of 'Palestinians' doesn't help them, or anyone else.
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  28.  @seattle0266 : The Arabs have been the 'aggressors' many times since WWI. Any Palestinian Arabs who fought on the side of the six Arab nations which invaded Israel in 1948, or who deserted in the hope of returning once the Jews had been obliterated, are also on the side of 'aggressors'.
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  29.  @seattle0266 : The majority of Arabs did NOT want to revolt against the Ottomans, and they fought on the side of their Turkish rulers. The revolt and struggle for independence was mainly in the Hijaz, in Arabia. Valiant Arab troops fought against the Allied forces in Beersheba in 1917, to name just one important battle in Palestine. The Arabs wanted more control and better conditions from the Ottomans, but there was no wide movement for an Arab national homeland at that time. That concept is also against Islam. It's just not pragmatic that each individual's consent to be given to any action by the international community or by a country's government. I don't know what reality you are living in. The British or French were NOT under any legal obligation in 1918 to hand over any land once they had defeated the Ottoman Caliphate and the Germans, it being prior to international laws that we have today, such as the Geneva Conventions. But it was the ethical thing to do. The Balfour Agreement was 'sympathetic' to the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people. But nothing was to prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine. Today the non-Jewish community have EQUAL rights under the law, and FREEDOM to practice their religions. What more do you want? The British ended up reneging on their promise of assisting in the creation of a Jewish homeland and they sided with the Arabs, but that's another story and it doesn't matter to me because the end result is that the Jewish state of Israel was founded and today it is thriving. The Jews are the indigenous people of the Holy Land. The fact that they had been ethnically cleansed and dispersed around the world, does not negate this reality. There is plenty of room for both Jews and Arabs in Israel, but a large number of Arab Muslims will never accept life under Jewish rule. It's against their supremacist ideology to live in what they see as 'subservience' to Jews. No borders are perfect. The Kurds should also have a homeland. As I said in an earlier comment, if more of the Arabs had remained and/or not fought against the Jews, by now they might have had a demographic majority so could change things considerably. But it's too late. Again, you seem to think that the global community should make special exceptions for 'displaced Palestinian Arabs' and that's just silly and discriminatory. Few countries want the Palestinians. Go anywhere in the Middle East and the locals will tell you that Palestinians are not welcome, that they cause trouble. This is especially true in Jordan where they attempted to overthrow the king in 1970, the 'Black September' conflict.
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  30.  @seattle0266 : I don't see the point in continuing much of this discussion, but I have a couple of questions that you might like to answer: What is your personal connection to Palestine? What would you propose as a pragmatic solution to this issue?
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  31.  @seattle0266 : I find this interesting "....the people of Palestine were politically irrelevant and should have no say in its future. In fact, Balfour himself said as much in 1921". Do you have a link to send me so I can research this statement?
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  32.  @seattle0266 : As for asking about your personal connection, I find that all discussions are better when I know why people feel the way they do about something, or at least I can attempt to see things from their perspective. I also ask Israelis this question, and those Jews who don't live in Israel, nor support Zionism. I also ask people if they follow a religion. Most people are happy to share their personal stories with me.
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  33. ​ @seattle0266 : I used to feel like you about the Palestinian 'cause' until I visited Israel in 1990, and again about ten years later at which time my daughter was living in Tel Aviv. I'm currently in South Sinai where I spend a lot of time. My New Zealand grandfather is buried in the British Military Cemetery near Jerusalem, having fought in the Palestine Campaign. I've also spent a lot of time in Jordan and Syria. I don't like any organised religion. I advocate for freedom of conscience. I'm appalled that in Egypt it's still not possible to convert openly out of Islam and get your new belief system noted on your ID, though the legal system is based on sharia so I am naive to expect anything different.
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  34.  @seattle0266 : Thanks for this. It makes sense to me that they would not consult the wishes of the present inhabitants during wartime. And the British hadn't even won the war when Balfour made this quote, had they? [Edit: I see it was a couple of years after the Turks surrendered, so forget this comment.] Later we see that the British did modify their stance towards the Arabs. The Hashemite Kingdom was granted 77% of the British Mandate of Palestine. And if the Germans and Ottoman Empire had won this war, who do you think they would be consulting? I support indigenous people in having a voice and, where pragmatic, being granted self-determination. This is what Zionism is, isn't it? A homeland for the original inhabitants of the land, alongside those who agreed to live under Jewish rule. The Arabs are indigenous to Arabia. They were the invaders and occupiers of historic Palestine for most of the last 1400 years. And a large proportion of Arabs living in Palestine in 1947 were relatively recent arrivals.
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  35.  @seattle0266 : Article 2 of Egypt's constitution says "Islam is the religion of the state and Arabic is its official language. The principles of Islamic Sharia are the principle source of legislation." In the preamble it says "We are drafting a Constitution that paves the way to the future for us, and which is in line with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which we took part in the drafting of and approved." We all know that the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is not compatible with Islamic Sharia so I don't know what's going on there. Sorry if I've missed responding to some of your questions. Many seemed to be going over the same ground, ie. why wasn't consent requested from the current inhabitants of Palestine to the Jewish people being granted self-determination over part of their ancestral land. The United Nations (which represented ALL people) put a resolution to a General Assembly in 1947 regarding the partition of Palestine into a Jewish state and an Arab state, and the resolution was passed with 33 votes in favour, 13 against, and 10 abstentions. The Arab community rejected it and subsequently attacked the new-founded state of Israel.
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  36.  @seattle0266 : I hope I've understood your question. In 1920 things were fairly horrific, due to the first Great War that killed millions of people and brought tragedy to a countless number of families. There were no international agreements in place so things were not always done as 'ethically' as I might have liked. However, I do believe that the group who wins a war of defence (the Allied Powers in this case) have the right to put in place measures to ensure that the offensive warring parties (Germans, Ottomans) could not go to war against them again in the near future. If that meant that the indigenous Jewish people were 'installed' as caretakers of the Holy Land (which has strategic and ideological value to the West) then I think that's totally fair. So long as the non-Jews living there at the time are offered equal rights under the law, which they were. Today 21% of Israeli citizens are Arabs, Druze, Bedouins, etc. who have equal rights with Jews, including full voting rights. If we are talking about what should happen today, and things are relatively *peaceful*, then I definitely believe the current inhabitants should be consulted about their future. This can be done by referendum, by electing a government to represent them, or by a UN vote if it's an international conflict. But if they don't like the result of such consultation, and they refuse to abide by it, then they should not be allowed to resort to violence. They should accept efforts to resettle them elsewhere if they become 'displaced people' living with hostility in a situation which then becomes intolerable for everyone. They should not be held in camps as UNRWA does today with the Palestinians. There are legal precedents in place, and I think law professor Alan Dershowitz outlined them in this video, didn't he? Another video I recommend is also a short one by Prager U called "Does Israel Occupy the West Bank".
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  37. ​ @seattle0266 : Just because an Islamic country doesn't implement sharia law in full (stoning of adulterers, killing of homosexuals, beheading of apostates and blasphemers, etc) it doesn't mean that they don't follow the principles of sharia. Just that they are not confident enough that they can get away with full implementation in the international arena. Egypt needs financial help from Western countries at the moment. But that could change. Just as we see with the Taliban returning to power in Afghanistan. Lashing is back, and it probably won't be long before we see stoning, and chopping off of hands or heads. Having a fairly large Christian minority in Egypt also keeps things in check.
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  38.  @seattle0266 : I understand that it was only a resolution, however the Jews were pragmatic and they chose to accept what seemed to be a fairly unfavourable offer. And the Arabs decided to settle things by attacking them, rather than by negotiation of borders that they were happier with. They lost the war, and they've lost all of the subsequent wars. The Arab nations didn't even want a land for the so-called 'Palestinians'. They wanted it all for themselves, with no Jews at all living there. What do you do with a party which has never agreed to the legitimacy of the Jewish people having any land at all? If the majority of Palestinians had stood their ground and remained, they would have had more power. But that chance has long gone. And the fact is that the Jews are the indigenous people of historic Palestine, and I would always support the rights of people to have sovereignty in their ancestral homeland.
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  39. ​ @seattle0266 : Have you got nothing else to do? I've got a life and I can't keep answering your questions. You can do your own research on the internet. Today we treat indigenous people far better than back in the days of colonising. The world has become a more ethical place. And today's citizens are not responsible for what happened two hundred years ago. We all have to live together and make it work. Stop seeing some groups as perpetual #victims. And yes am very aware that the 'Arabs' of today are a very diverse group. That's because the Arabs of the Hijaz invaded and converted many different civilisations to their culture and language. Egyptians are Copts, Moroccans and Algerians are Berbers/Amazigh, Syrians are... etc. etc.
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  40.  @ConorJB1 : What's to stop the Arab countries from renegotiating their borders today? No-one one was ever going to get it exactly right for all parties. This was at the conclusion of a MAJOR world war, so it should be viewed from that perspective. The Arabs achieved their desired independence from the oppressive Ottoman Empire, and they have self-determination today on 99% of the liberated Middle East land, ie. Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. I would have loved to see the addition of a country called Kurdistan, and am still hopeful of that one day.
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  41. A cat person!!! So good to hear this...🐱💙✨🙏
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  42. A better option is along the lines of former US Ambassador David Friedman's #OneJewishState proposal. Israel extends sovereignty over the disputed territories and offers the Arab occupants "permanent residence status". That would give them equal civil rights, relative autonomy, and a travel document. The next generation could have a pathway to full citizenship once they can pledge allegiance to the Jewish state of Israel. Gazans would have to be temporarily relocated while rebuilding is carried out.
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  43.  @007kingifrit : I think it's the only humane future for the children of these 'Palestinian' Arabs. No other country will take them in large numbers, and Israel would be "keeping their enemy close". Over two million Arabs and other minorities are Israeli citizens today. No doubt it took some decades for them to see the benefits in being citizens of Israel but it works relatively well overall. Offering "permanent residence status" with a travel document means that the 'Palestinians' can also leave and find a better place to live.
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  44. How come my 'Like' hit keeps disappearing?
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  45. The Arabs of Palestine refused to live alongside Jews so they should have moved to Jordan in 1948. Now even Jordan and Egypt and pretty much all of the Arab nations don't want them.
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  46.  @davissae : After the dismembering of the Ottoman Empire in 1918, the Arabs ended up with 99% of the defunct caliphate's Middle East land. The Jews want less than 1% of that land, and it happens to be their original ancestral homeland. And this is not acceptable to you? Sounds like #antiSemitism to me. Those Arabs who refused to live under Jewish leadership in 1948, and who fled when the Arab nations attacked, should have long ago been resettled in one of the Arab countries. Millions of 'displaced' peoples over the last 100 years have been resettled but it's only the Palestinians who still get huge funding and publicity today.
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  47.  @rayyanqureshi8622 : Numerous Islamic countries, or states within countries, maintain the death penalty for both apostasy and blasphemy, today. This list includes Afghanistan, Brunei, Nigeria, Iran, Mauritania, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia. Many other Muslim-majority countries heavily punish anyone who "disrupts the social fabric" by talking about no longer being a believer in Islam. Where's the lie?  Females are second-class citizens in Islam. They can be beaten by their husband even if he only 'fears her disobedience'. There is no concept of "equality under the law" in Islam. Female children can be married off by their guardian before they have menstruated in numerous Islamic countries today. This is permitted [halal] according to Qur'an 65:4. Child marriage is also Sunnah because the prophet of Islam consummated his marriage to Aisha while she was only a prepubescent nine year old child [Sahih al-Bukhari 6130 Book 78, Hadith 157].
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  48.  @rayyanqureshi8622 : Numerous Islamic countries, or states within countries, maintain the de*th penalty for both apostasy and blasphemy, today. This list includes Afghanistan, Brunei, Nigeria, Iran, Mauritania, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia. Many other Muslim-majority countries heavily punish anyone who "disrupts the social fabric" by talking about not being a believer in Islam. Where's the lie?  Females are second-class citizens in Islam. They can be beaten by their husbands even if he only 'fears her disobedience'. There is no concept of "equality under the law" in Islam. Female children can be married off by their guardian before they have menstruated in numerous Islamic countries today. This is permissible [halal] according to Qur'an 65:4. Child marriage is also Sunnah because the prophet of Islam consummated his marriage to Aisha while she was only a prepubescent nine year old child [Sahih al-Bukhari 6130 Book 78, Hadith 157].
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  49.  @victorvolobuev507 : I agree. Most Muslims have better morals than Islam. People born into a Muslim family are not permitted to "do the research" because that could cause them to doubt Islam. It's a horrible cycle, and almost impossible to get out of if they live in a country which punishes blasphemy (criticism of Islam).
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  50.  @rayyanqureshi8622 : Numerous Islamic countries, or states within countries, maintain the de*th penalty for both apostasy and blasphemy TODAY, including Afghanistan, Brunei, Nigeria, Iran, Mauritania, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia. Many other Muslim-majority countries heavily punish anyone who "disrupts the social fabric" by talking about not being a believer in Islam. Where's the lie?
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  51.  @rayyanqureshi8622 : Numerous Islamic countries, or states within countries, maintain the de*th penalty for both apostasy and blasphemy TODAY. Many Muslim-majority countries heavily punish anyone who "disrupts the social fabric" by talking about not being a believer in Islam. Where's the lie?
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  52.  @victorvolobuev507 : I agree. Most Muslims have better morals than Islam, and they are not permitted to "do the research" because that might cause them to doubt the faith they were born into.
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  53.  @chinavirus841 : I don't think so. Islam is losing power. The trend is for Muslims to leave Islam because they are discovering that it's an imposter religion. It is primarily an ideology for invading and conquering, and that strategy doesn't work in the 21st century. The prophet of Islam knew it would come to an end.
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  54. ​ @chinavirus841 : What evidence do you have for this? The growing trend is for Muslims to leave Isl*m. ☪ is primarily an ideology for invading and conquering. That strategy won't work in the 21st century. The prophet of Isl*m knew it would come to an end. #AbrahamAccords
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  55.  @chinavirus841 : What evidence do you have for this belief?
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  56.  @zahidnoori6874 : Asking questions and debating Islam are quite different from "critically examining" Islam. Why are apostates punished severely when they are caught speaking in a critical way about Islam? When you ask a question, for example about girl-child marriage, multiple wives, or wife-beating, can you reject the answer of the Quran or Hadiths if it goes against your own moral judgement? Quran 49:15 seems to make it clear that you cannot be critical about anything in the Quran, or in the example of Muhammed, and remain a Believer. "The ˹true˺ believers are only those who believe in Allah and His Messenger—never doubting—and strive with their wealth and their lives in the cause of Allah. They are the ones true in faith."
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  57.  @zahidnoori6874 : Can you say something derogatory about Islam? Can you reject something that Allah and His Messenger said or did?
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  58. ​ @zahidnoori6874 : Blasphemy is no longer considered wrong by most religious people except Muslims. Freedom of speech is far more important. When people can't speak freely, they are oppressed, and societies do not progress. It has nothing to do with being insulting or inciting hatred. Being critical and rejecting behaviour that is NOT compatible with 21st century life is important. Things such as multiple wives, girl-child marriage, wife beating, inequality in divorce, rape in marriage, inequality between men and women and Muslims and non-Muslims, freedom to leave Islam and speak out to others about why you left. Islam has many things that go against the human rights that the vast majority of the world practices. Do you live in an Islamic Sharia ruled country?
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  59. It makes sense that the Allied Forces supported the founding of a democratic Jewish state on 1% of the the Middle East land, particularly as it has strategic and ideological value to the west. Wars have consequences. The losers, the collapsed Ottoman Caliphate and Arab Muslims, didn't get to call all the shots.
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  60. That can only happen if the the majority of Palestinians and their corrupt leaders accept Israel as a legitimate nation state. I doubt that will ever happen.
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  61.  @omarlittle-hales8237 : Do you accept Israel as a legitimate nation state?
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  62.  @ricksolari9570 : This 5 min video "Why Are There Still Palestinian Refugees?" explains the complex refugee situation that occurred after the founding of Israel in 1948. It includes the 'ethnic cleansing' of Jews from Arab nations. Let me know what other explanation you need... https://youtu.be/sY0FOPa-j-E
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  63. 'Daily counter-terrorism actions' describes them more correctly. And the majority killed are #jihadi militants who are then hailed as martyrs by the Islamist groups. Their families get monthly payouts from the Palestinian Authority.
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  64. The founding of Israel has nothing to do with WWII. The Zionist Jews fought with the British in WWI against the Germans and Ottoman Empire, in return for the promise of territory. As did the Hejazi Arabs who fought with British Lawrence of Arabia. The Ottoman Turks and Arabs of Palestine were DEFEATED in 1918. That's how the #indigenous Jewish people were granted the legal right to reconstitute their ancestral homeland. It has taken decades for them to complete their sovereignty over the Holy Land, due to jiha@dist violence and the fact that most of the world's oil wealth is in the hands of Arab Muslims. But that's all changing now. #FinalCrusade
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