Comments by "Sandy Tatham" (@sandytatham3592) on "Why Isn't There a Palestinian State? | 5 Minute Video" video.

  1. Yes, the Quran has more hate speech against Jews than Hitler's Mein Kamph.
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  2. Egypt has also blocked the border of Gaza with Sinai because Hamas are terrorists. Israel are not colonising Gaza. They withdrew from Gaza in 2005. Israel has a right to protect its people. You might be interested to read this: "I'm a 31 year old Palestinian and have been living in Gaza for all my life. We're so scared right now and we want this to be over but a lot us (secretly, we can't say publicly) actually know Israel is in the right (yes, a lot of us here know Israel is not the one waging war). When we voted for Hamas more than 15 years ago, we thought they would let us have regular elections and turn this area into an amazing, democratic Palestinian land. But they regularly pay us massive money to rally on the streets and to tell the media Israel is the agressor and we badly need the money so we accept. Hamas officials told us that we have to stay in our work buildings when the Israel army warns us to leave before they bomb the buildings, if we don't Hamas will jail our families. We risk not moving in the hope that we don't get hurt so our families don't get jailed. We also get paid to hold fake funerals where we carry 'killed' children on stretchers in the streets (they're just pretending to be dead). What I'm trying to say is that what you see on the media is Hamas making us look like war victims, but really we are victims of Hamas who will do what Hamas says because of our desperation for money. We don't get aid even though apparently most countries say they give aid. We use to live peacefully with the Israeli's before Hamas controlled us and now we rely on Hamas to survive. Some of us have tried to escape to Israel but Hamas will also kill our family if they find out. We pray that one day Hamas will stop using all they money for rockets and terrorists and use its money for us, to build us parks and schools and hospitals and give us food. Right now I pray for the violence to stop."
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  3. Jesus was born a Jew. The Jews have been there for a long time.
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  4. My grandfather fought the Ottoman Turks in the Sinai-Palestine Campaigns of 1917-18 so that the people living in the Palestine Region at the time (Jews, Christians, Druze, Arab Muslims and others) could be free of the oppression of the Ottoman Caliphate. The Arab Muslims were given more than 95% of the collapsed Ottoman Empire territories after the British and Allied Forces won WWI. The Jews are still fighting to hold onto and protect the very small area that they were promised for their support to the war effort. I have yet to find an Arab Muslim who is grateful that my grandfather and thousands of other ANZACs, British and Indian troops gave their lives so that all people living under the Ottoman Caliphate could have freedom. They have independence in the countries of Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, etc. Plus 20% of Israeli citizens are Arab Muslims who accepted to live under Israeli rule. Politics are never perfect but we all know the real reason why the Muslims refuse to recognise Israel's right to exist.
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  5. ​ @ChrisJohnson-vb9hr : Yes there was ethnic cleansing. Remember when around 850,000 Jews had to flee Arab Muslim countries when those people made it impossible for them to stay? They took refuge in Israel. I believe it was a similar number of Arab Muslims who fled the Palestine Mandate when six Arab countries launched war on Israel in 1948. They were told to leave for a few days (crossing into Jordan and neighbouring countries) while the Jews were being killed, then they expected to return. But the Arabs lost the war. Just like the Ottoman Turks lost the war to the British and Allies in 1918. The losers do NOT get to dictate their terms to the world. Around 20% of Israel is made up of those Arabs (Muslim and Christian) who accepted Israeli rule and live there today as doctors, politicians, educators, scientists, etc. There are other perspectives to this story, and one major one is that Islam cannot accept Jews living on land that they had previously claimed for themselves under the Ottoman Empire.
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  6.  @ChrisJohnson-vb9hr : You have to be pragmatic and make the best of a bad situation if you find yourself on the losing side in a war. The Arab Muslims gained freedom from their Ottoman Empire oppressors, but they continue to see themselves as victims 100 years later. That's not going to help anyone. I don't know anything about the 'ethnic Jewish poles' but Jews worldwide have shown us that they have great fortitude. [Edit: sorry, of course I do know about Warsaw, Poland, but my comment still stands. When I was growing up in New Zealand, I had friends whose parents were Jewish holocaust survivors. They always impressed me with their strength of character. Besides, that's a different scenario to today's conflict.]
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  7.  @πικοσπικου-ν1ξ : I don't think that Gaza has had elections since Hamas got into power in 2006. Same with the Palestinian Authority (West Bank) which is ruled by Fatah, who are not so hardline as Hamas. Fatah's Mahmoud Abbas did call for elections in April then cancelled them. It's possible that this war in Gaza is for Hamas to show strength to the West Bank citizens in the hope that Hamas will also win there if they ever have elections. They are basically corrupt dictators once they get into power. Blessings to you too. I'm from NZ but currently in Sinai, Egypt. Edit: "President Mahmoud Abbas announced early Friday (30 April 2021) that the first Palestinian elections in 15 years will be delayed, citing a dispute with Israel to call off a vote in which his fractured Fatah party was expected to suffer another embarrassing defeat to the Hamas militant group. Hamas slammed the move as a “coup.” But the indefinite postponement will be quietly welcomed by Israel and Western countries, which view the Islamic militant group as a terrorist organization and are concerned about its growing strength." Here's the rest of the article if you want to read it... https://apnews.com/article/hamas-middle-east-elections-religion-government-and-politics-e88636bc919f8aab455e01fbbd4b4391
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  8. ​ @πικοσπικου-ν1ξ : Lots of questions but I'll try and answer... Israel has agreed many times to an 'independent Palestine nation' but the Palestine leaders have so far rejected all of those deals as not being satisfactory to their needs. Hamas in Gaza even rejects Israel's right to exist at all. At the moment the Palestinian Territories have huge leadership problems. They are split into two parts, with Gaza ruled by Hamas, which is designated as a terror organisation by many countries. Fatah are in power in the West Bank and elections haven't been held for 16 years. When they do finally hold elections, it is possible that Hamas will take power over both Gaza and the West Bank (known by the Israelis as Judea & Samaria). As for a 'mixed nation', Israel is already made up of 20% Arab-Israeli citizens. These citizens are active in government, they have political parties, their ministers sit in the Knesset (parliament), and some Arabs even serve in the military. There is a path to Israeli citizenship for Palestinians, but with the current violent uprisings by Arab-Israeli Muslims within Israel I would say that Israel is not likely to give citizenship to any more Arab Muslims. Just under HALF of the Palestinians still want an independent nation from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, without Israel existing at all. Though some do say they would prefer to live in Israel rather than under a terrorist (Hamas) or corrupt (Fatah) government, and a few favour some kind of annexation of West Bank by Jordan and Gaza by Egypt. Here are the results of a poll conducted in 2019... https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/half-palestinians-still-want-all-palestine-most-would-compromise-less For population statistics, this is a 'rough guide' from 2020 of the collective Palestinian Arab population: 3.05 million in the West Bank, 2.05 million in the Gaza Strip, and 1.96 million live in Israel = total 7.06 million. Islam contains a strong anti-Jewish message, and Islam is primarily a political ideology, so it is very difficult for Arab Muslims to accept living peacefully alongside Jews. However there is a small but growing trend for Arabs to leave Islam (especially in Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Libya, Sudan, and Yemen) so that could also bring about changes in the way Palestinians view Israeli Jews over the next few years... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48703377 As more Muslim-majority countries enter into economic agreements with Israel (as with the Abraham Accords) I think the idea of a 'independent Palestine state' will grow less important to the Arab nations, and to Muslims as a whole. But there is a bigger picture of world politics that affect things. With Iran being strengthened under Biden, and with Hamas being funded and trained by Iran, this area could remain volatile for some time. This is also a very emotional topic for people worldwide and that could influence the direction that Palestine independence takes.
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  9.  @pyramusk3264 : I think it's not difficult to do a Google search to find lots of Quran references to the Jews, most of which are not positive. But I recommend Dr Bill Warner's video "A Taste of Islam" from around 21 mins... https://youtu.be/YjBDDC4wVxk?t=1258 (but watch the whole video to learn more).
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  10.  @pyramusk3264 : My pleasure. Dr Warner is one of the best educators on Islam. He only talks about the political and legal dimension of Islam, but not Muslims as people or their personal interpretations of the texts.
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  11.  @levap06 : I guess you can look at it that way. I'm not religious. I was just commenting on the historical demographics.
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