Comments by "Sandy Tatham" (@sandytatham3592) on "The TRUTH About the Temple Mount Riots | *crazy footage" video.

Exactly, and I worry that this relatively weak government has been forced into being too tolerant. This will only lead to more violence in future because appeasement never works. Everywhere else in the world it is the rioters and troublemakers who would have been banned from the site. #RuleOfLaw
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It translates as "Allah is greater". Definitely not the same God.
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@mirani86 : The concept of 'god' in Christianity is VASTLY different to the concept of 'god' in Islam. The god of Christianity loves everyone unconditionally, including sinners. The god of Islam only loves those who first love him. Muslims are saying that their "god is greater" when they say Allahu Akbar, so it could be seen as a statement of #supremacy.
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@mirani86 : "The word ’akbar (أَكْبَر) is the so-called elative. In Semitic linguistics, the elative (اِسْمُ تَفْضِيلٍ‎) – noun of preference – is a stage of gradation in Arabic that can be used both for a comparative or superlative in Arabic. Thus, it denotes greater or greatest." Just because the god of Islam refers to Jews and Christians as "People of the Book" it doesn't mean that they follow the same concept of god. Allah also tells Muslims many times that the Jews are NOT their friends or allies [Quran 5:51] so I'm not sure what you are getting at here. Islam has a degraded (bastardised) version of Jesus which NO Christian would accept. Just because something is said countless times, does it mean it's true?
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@mirani86 : Yes there is an argument to be made that"Allahu Akbar" can also means to a Muslim that his god is "great". But as an Infidel who lives in Muslim-majority countries, I'm only interested in what the Islamic scholars say the phrase means and how it is indicative of #superiority, ie. "Allah is greater". This is what the majority of Muslims believe it means, though they may not say that to you if they know you are a Christian. A certain amount of deception is permissible in the Islamic world if it furthers the cause of Allah. The Islamic version of Jesus is clearly a bastardisation of the Jesus that Christians believe in. It is heretical. The 'morality' of islam is also horrible for women and girls (child marriage, polygamy, inequality in divorce, rape in marriage, wife-beating, sex slavery, etc) so please do NOT try and tell me that Islam upholds peace, tolerance and compassion without mentioning everything else. And if you've lived in an Islamic country where Islamic law (#sharia) is implemented, even partially, you would know that there is one rule for Muslims and another rule for Infidels/Kaffirs, so there is nothing 'binding' Islam to Christianity and Judaism. A Muslim is told by Allah that he is "the best of peoples" and that the Unbelievers are "vile creatures". The prophet of Islam only gained a significant following after he moved to Medina and received revelations that his jihadis would get war booty and sex slavery from the raids they were conducting. In the 13 years of preaching a peaceful message he only gained a maximum 175 followers. Surely that raises a red flag for you? There are lots of videos on the topic of "Do Islam and Christianity believe in the same God?" . A 3 minute video with that title by Dr Andy Bannister explains things well. He also has longer videos and a new book on this topic.
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This is the Information Age. People have phones to record everything...🙄
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@noor-jennazaman6694 : You have to be discerning with everything you see and read. There are lots of videos of young men stockpiling rocks, wearing shoes inside the mosque, putting up barricades and throwing Molotov cocktails and firecrackers. And there were also genuine worshippers, many who were very upset with the violent young men.
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@noor-jennazaman6694 : I agree that all media sources have some bias so it's the responsibility of the public to look at many sources in order to get the best overall picture of what is going on. Just because stones aren't guns, it doesn't mean they can't be lethal so that's not a good argument. If home evictions and destruction are against the law then you have to use the law to redress the wrong. Violence is not the answer. There is also the complication in that Jordan occupied Israel for some 18 years so title deeds given during that time might not be recognised under law? The fact is that those Palestinian families who rejected living under Jewish rule in 1948 should have moved to an Arab Muslim nation. Around two million Arabs live relatively good lives as Israeli citizens today. Millions of people in the last 100 years have been 'displaced' through the creation of new nation states, including 850,000 Jews ethnically cleansed or exiled from Arab nations and 13 million Hindus and Muslims in South Asia. But it's only the so-called Palestinians who are still hostile today and who haven't yet been resettled by #UNRWA. We see that many Arab nations are normalising their ties with Israel so I think the direction of things is becoming quite clear.
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@noor-jennazaman6694 : Don't ever be sorry to disagree. That's how we learn and grow in wisdom. I have a different take on Israel's founding but you are welcome to your version and to dispute mine. The fact is that the Jews were promised, as a consequence of supporting the British war effort, to be able to live in their ancestral homeland (Balfour Agreement of 1917) providing that the British & Allies were successful in DEFEATING the Ottoman Caliphate. The League of Nations acknowledged in 1920 that the Jewish people are indigenous to the Holy Land and the British Mandate of Palestine should be divided between the Arabs and the Jews. Representing the Arabs, the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan was granted 78% of the Mandated land of the Ottoman region of Palestine in 1921. The Jews waited until 1948 for fulfilment of their land grant promise, and they accepted whatever they were offered as their new state when the chance FINALLY arose. Many attacks against them by the surrounding hostile Arab nations has seen Israel increase its land area out of necessity to maintaining security. And I would think it logical and legal under international law for them to annex Judea and Samaria, along with the Golan Heights, and possibly Gaza, within the next 20 years. Maybe the Arab occupants who want to remain can be given 'residence permits' but not full citizenship rights, because Israel already has 20% Muslim citizens, a small proportion of whom are hostile. From the Middle East land of the collapsed Ottoman Empire, the Arabs have self-determination today over more than 99% of the total area (Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Jordan). Why are the Jews still struggling to live peacefully on less than 1% of that total area? Why are the Jews held to a very different standard? You can call it 'Muslim displacement' if you like but those so-called Palestinians who are still HOSTILE to Jewish rule should be resettled elsewhere in the Arab Muslim world. The millions of dollars that today go into the pockets of the corrupt Palestinian leaders can then be diverted to help GENUINE refugees.
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@noor-jennazaman6694 : Hindus and Christians in both Pakistan and Bangladesh are treated terribly. I've been there, and I've got friends in both countries. I usually spend six months of every year in India and the situation under BJP-Modi is really horrible for Muslims, and to a lesser extent for Christians, Freethinkers and Atheists. I always call out anti-Muslim attacks and discrimination. What is happening in India worries me a lot. I have Hindu friends who have turned on me in a very physically threatening way because I tell them I support equal rights for all. So it seems we are more in agreement where India is concerned.
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@noor-jennazaman6694 : India and Israel are different scenarios, though they both have a similar percentage of Muslim citizens, and are both surrounded by hostile countries. Do you believe that Muslims can co-exist in tolerance with other belief systems? I am aware that wherever Sharia has been implemented before, Muslims must struggle to liberate that land [Quran 2:191 "and drive them out from where they drove you out"] so that includes North India, Palestine, al-Andalus, etc. I'm curious. Which state of India do you live in?
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@noor-jennazaman6694 : "of course muslim can and have for thousands of years". Sorry, when I said 'tolerant' I really meant can an Islamic State rule with equality for all under the law? Not just 'tolerate' non-Muslims living with Muslims whilst they are forced to pay a protection tax, live as lower-class dhimmi citizens and be humiliated or subjugated [Qu'ran 9:29]. The fact that Muslims have invaded and conquered a vast part of the globe over the last 1400 years, then ruled over its non-Muslim occupants, is nowhere near the same thing. "refers to war time". I assume you understand the concept Dar al-Haarb and Dar al-Islam? Islam is perpetually at war with that part of the world which isn't Islamic. Islamic jurisprudential leaders today point to this Quran verse when they say that Palestine belongs to Muslims: Qur'an 2:191 "and drive them out from where they drove you out". "Muslims never hated Jews". I agree that Muslims can have their own feelings about Jews and Christians, and today we see Arab nations normalising relations with Israel and Jews. But the Qur'an is quite clear that Jews and Christians should be treated harshly [Qur'an 48:29], that the Believers should not be allies with them [Qur'an 5:51], and that the Infidels are vile creatures. Zionists want to be safe and secure in their ancestral homeland. They are the indigenous people of that land. They have a right to peace in Israel, to uphold Jewish values, which includes equality for all under the law. Wars have consequences. The Islamic nations have lost many wars in the last 110 years (the most important one for the foundation of Israel and the surrounding Arab nations being WWI) and LOSERS don't get to decide on what happens to the land that they once inhabited or which they attacked. I'm sorry if you have heard any Israelis talk of cleansing the world of non-Jews, but it sounds like just another ridiculous unverified anti-Semitic rumour to me. I hear these rumours all the time in whilst travelling in the Islamic world.
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@noor-jennazaman6694 "Under Islamic rules Jews felt safer than ever." This is just rubbish. Why did 850,000 Jews leave Arab countries in the last 100 years, places which were their ancestral homes? Can you provide evidence that people are being evicted from homes in Israel that they have legal title to, and building permission for? #RuleOfLaw If a family member was a convicted jihadi terrorist then their house may have been targeted for demolition, but that is an exception. Don't believe everything you read or hear.
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@noor-jennazaman6694 People don't live in the past any more, and there has been an awful lot of distortion about the true history of Al-Andalus. One example was how the very prominent Jewish scholar Maimonides had to flee to Morocco then on to Egypt from Cordoba, Spain when the revolutionary and fanatical Islamic sect, the Almohads, gave the Jewish community the typical alternative of submitting to Islam or leaving the city. But you probably don't want to acknowledge facts when Islam is shown in a negative light.
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@noor-jennazaman6694 That was NOT an isolated case. There were many far worse scenarios than the treatment of the Jews in Cordoba, who were given the option to convert, leave, or be killed. Read about the slaughter of thousands of Jews (maybe 4000?) in Granada by Muslim mobs in 1066. And please stop believing all of the falsehoods that Muslims are told by Islamic leaders. They count on the fact that you won't bother to do your own research or ask any questions. The fact is that believing Muslims are obligated to follow the Qur'an which says quite clearly that the People of the Book are to be given the options: convert to Islam, become subjugated as dhimmis, or leave. So there can NEVER be any security for Jews or Christians who live in a Muslim-dominated land. Hamas has in their Covenant for Gaza, Article 11: "The Islamic Resistance Movement [Hamas] believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic WAQF consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day." which follows Quran 2:191 "and drive them out from where they drove you out". So please stop with your silly nonsense of 'Muslims can co-exist with Infidels'. As for "illegal occupation of Palestine", why don't you REFUTE the legal steps outlined in my earlier comments? Your emotional statements might have weight in the Islamic world, but in the Judeo-Christian world we work with FACTS and evidence. Israel has a clear legal right to be in Palestine, from the river-to-the-sea. Muslims have to deal with that fact.
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